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  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited May 2013

    BIG CONGRATS MMSS!!!  Such a long ride for you and today is the day!  That stinks about your burned spot, but this is the beginning of the end of all that, even if it doesn't get better right away.  As you say, you have some more tools and more time in your day and you can see the light at the end of the tunnel.  (Mixed metaphor, sorry.)  Great idea to get vegan cookbooks--here's to new beginnings! 

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited May 2013

    Congrats MMSS!

    Happy Dancing! Yippee:))) you did great! How fun & well deserved celebration with family!

    Keep lubing the girl...she deserves some intense soothing...about 3 wks out she'll surprise you with how wonderful she looks. Our rads techs are awesome, but yeah forget that machine. Serious laser tag...check done that DONE!

    Making some life tweaks...it's to precious to squander:)

    Will you do HT? Aromasin or are you done?

    Enjoy & pamper yourself...you fought rad brave warrior!

    (((Hugs)))

    Cindy

  • Bets4bama
    Bets4bama Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2013

    Hey again sisters! Guess I'm truly a member now....saw doc today and she wasn't happy with the way left girl is healing up. Gave me those xeroform strips to apply under the boob where it was rashly/red and now peeling. Oh well...last whole boob treatment was last Thursday so I assume this will be the worse. Darn it, I really thought I'd make it through with no redness or peeling. For those of you behind me, it wasn't till the last week that this happened. So I guess 6 weeks with no SE's at all was pretty darn good, don't you think? I haven't even really been tired. I have six more boosts so I'm not quite done yet, but I feel the worse surely is over.

    Thanks Jennie93! I guess I wanted to blame the rads for everything....and now I've got mouth ulcers too! Didn't have a single one during chemo. Go figure! All this "stuff" really does a number on our bodies I guess.


    CLYDAY - where in Birmingham will you get your treatments? Which hospital? I'm at St. Vincent's .....hope that's where you'll be cause they are truly wonderful! Good luck tomorrow!

    Night ladies....must say my prayers for the people of Oklahoma. God be with them!!!

  • CLYDAY
    CLYDAY Member Posts: 81
    edited May 2013

    Betsforbama...I will be at the Kirkland clinic on Acton road...I hope to have a good experience as you did!!

  • Bets4bama
    Bets4bama Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2013

    CLYDAY....Good luck as you start your rads. Kirklin is supposed to be really good. Hope it goes well for you. Keep us posted here.

  • Bets4bama
    Bets4bama Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2013

    Me again...WAAAAA!!! So close to the end and it all hits. Only 5 more boosts and I am miserable. I guess the Xeroform is helping.....can't really tell yet. Armpit raw. Thank goodness all these areas are not being treated anymore. The tech was right when she told me I would continue to cook for about a week after. Didnt think I was tired either, but yesterday after my treatment, I decided to lay down to rest my eyes for a few minutes. Woke up 3 and a half hours later!!!! Mouth ulcers still a problem too. Well, at least maybe some of the 20 pounds I gained during chemo may start to come off. I'm generally never a whiner, but I'm just foul this morning. But God is good and will continue to be with me through all this! Love you gals!

  • braids3
    braids3 Member Posts: 173
    edited May 2013

    hi Bets4bamma i got mouth and lips sores too and didn't get them with chemo either magic mothwash helps alot even put it on my lips haven't been able to get it on my throat which is why i think its real sore hope this helps i have 1 more week of w breast and then 14 boosts i'm hangin in there love to All 

    love and light chris

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited May 2013

    Hi y'all



    Braids3 - congrats on being almost done with the whole breast zaps:). Keep lubing the girl! The boosts give the girl a break...ask your rad techs to draw out the areas and then give them a little extra care...free boobing if you can. The air and no clothing feels best ...nothing to irritate the skin. My RO gave 2.5% hydrocortisone & emu oil...really helped sooo much:)

    3wks out my skin looks creamy like pre-rads:)

    Bets4bama - sorry that your armpit is raw:((( yeah, high five only 5 more boosts! Rad techs are right it keeps cookin after last zaps, but it's destroying the dark side and then all baby new! It is amazing how our bodies work through all the treatments:). Naps are a good thing...body healing. Hope mouth sores clear up soon...I ate like a horse during rads and lost 5#. Hubby says butt is missin need to do squats and get it back...ha!

    CLYDAY - let us know when you settle in...maybe you can meet 4 coffee with bets4! Get some stickers or post it notes and think of some fun comments to share with rad team. I'm making a shutterfly book documenting my journey. Also wrote Dr who found my c so early a

    thank you note. Check out your cancer treatment center...they may offer classes and services for patients...mine offered support group, chair massage, exercise classes, meditation, nutrition counseling which all helped being away from home:))



    Zip zap laser tag warriors! Sending calm confident thoughts to all...

    (((Hugs)))

    Cindy

  • Bets4bama
    Bets4bama Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2013

    Thanks for all the encouragement friends! Braids3, somehow it makes me feel a little better knowing somebody else got mouth sores AFTER the chemo. I still think its related to the rads, but the techs of course say no. Today I got one of them to remove one of my round stickies and boy was that a mistake! Now I have a round place where the skin is coming off...armpit area. But my friend went with me today and we went shoe shopping afterward and that definitely helped!!!!

    CLYDAY...would love to meet for lunch if you feel up to it. My appointment is everyday at noon...perfect time for doing lunch afterward with friends..

    Thanks Cindy! You Are certainly an encourager!!!

    Love to all,

    Betsy

  • CLYDAY
    CLYDAY Member Posts: 81
    edited May 2013

    Thank you Cindy!! I will keep you guys posted!  Long day yesterday but I got the CT Sim scan and mold made for RADS. Should find out Fri if I am good to go on Tues.  Everyone there was very sweet!  I went and checked out the Hope Lodge again where I will be staying.  They are very helpful and I am lucky it is available for me.  Betsy would love to meet you for lunch once I am settled in!  I know having you gals here to lean on is such a big help...hugs to all...

    Cherri

  • Bets4bama
    Bets4bama Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2013

    Morning gals! Only four more to go!!!! Left girl is a bit better, but the place where the stickie was is a mess....I should have known better by now. Oh well. And get this....the rad nurse who looked at me yesterday said I was having a delayed reaction from the chemo when I told her about the mouth ulcers!!!! Sometimes I think it just depends on who you talk to as to the answers you get! Even the doc had said no when I asked her if they were from the chemo. Ah....all this will be over before I know it, right?

    CLYDAY- glad for you that your long day is over and I do hope you can start Tuesday and get the show on the road. I'm not familiar with Hope Lodge, but assume its a place for you to stay during your treatment. You'll have to fill me in later why your profile says you're from Florida and you'rea taking your rads here in Bham. Did I miss something? Anyway, my thoughts and prayers are with you! You are so young....younger than my daughter! I'm an old woman and I can't imagine going through all this at such a young age. Keep in touch and hope to see you soon!

    Love to all,

    Betsy

  • CLYDAY
    CLYDAY Member Posts: 81
    edited May 2013

    Hi Betsy!  No I live in Pensacola and will be moving up there for RADS and staying at the Hope Lodge during my treatment.  It is funded by the American Cancer Society so it is pretty much free!!  It is off 22nd near UAB if that helps as far as the location!! I will stay on here regularly so we can set up to meet for coffee....I need to stay busy while I'm up there or I will get in a funk!!!

    Cherri

  • Bets4bama
    Bets4bama Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2013

    CLYDAY- yes definitely keep checking in here. We all want to encourage you on your journey. I only have two more rads! Yippee!!! Tuesday and Wednesday! Then I'm headin to the beach.....Fort Morgan in Gulf Shores. I'm sure you're familiar with the area. I plan to sleep and sleep. And eat! When do your rads start? Tuesday? I know you're ready to get started! We will meet up soon...I certainly don't want you to get in a funk!!!

    Betsy

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited May 2013

    Hi y'all!



    Happy Memorial Day Weekend:)) yippee Holiday! Time for R&R:)

    Or hydrate, moisturize, eat, free boob, and laughter!

    Tonight was so fun tickets to dinner dance...danced my tail off...and some skin under arm ouch! Fun just to kick it and not even think of c...life is good:)

    Yeah...Besty final countdown Ooo whoo! 4 more and you will kiss the floor!

    Cherri - enjoy the long weekend you will rock rads!



    Done soaking my feet...time for bed:) good night moon good night warriors!

    (((Hugs)))

    Cindy

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited May 2013

    Hey CLYDAY - hoping your first day went well:). Got your rad countdown calendar with prizes each day....pamper yourself.



    Yippee Besty! Down to the final zap! Ooo whoo...my dancing shoes are ready! Ya did good warrior:))). Ring the bell LOUD & PROUD! Then Gulf Shores...R&R!



    Braids - getting ready for boosts:). Give the girl a break...about now emu oil and hydrocortisone feel gr8 with free boobing! So almost done:))) lip sores gone? Hope so.



    Sending (((hugs))) laser warriors.

    Cindy

  • CLYDAY
    CLYDAY Member Posts: 81
    edited May 2013

    Hi ladies!  Got all settled in and my first treatment went well...aside for having my hands up for so long!  I thought I wasn't going to make it!!  I was told it would be alot better once the margins are all set up.  Tomorrow going to the store and buy some groceries and work on my Radation countdown calender!  Any tips please let me know...thanks a bunch!!

    Cherri

  • braids3
    braids3 Member Posts: 173
    edited May 2013

    Great weekend ladies went to the Kerrville folk festival thatat i've work 10ys well the hugs start to really hurt so my friend came up with the cocnuts from grass skrt thing it worked great but bo did my girl miss freeboobing yes Cindy thank u i/m doing the emu,calendula hydro have silvadene on the shelve waiting also trying this orental burn cream i'm already peeling in places. 14 boosts i'm gonna be COOKed! i'll keep a posted 

    To ALL OF US RAD GODWSS WARRIORS WE ROCK IT!!!!

    LOVE CHRIS

  • kkuziel
    kkuziel Member Posts: 191
    edited May 2013

    Hi all, would like all your good vibes on Friday as I "face down" my oncologist. Had my plan in place since February, did my rads, and was ready to begin hormone therapy when out of the blue he suggests a mammo print test, and the numbers put me in the high category for reoccurance (they only do high or low). My oncotype score was 22 with a 14% chance of reoccurance. It was from the oncotype test that he recommended radiation followed by hormone therapy. He felt theree was little to gain with chemo therapy. Now 20 weeks out of my first surgery, 16 weeks out of my reincision, ( good margins each time, just needed more margin around an area of DCIS) and after rads he is saying that maybe chemo is a good idea.



    I've done my own research, checked in with many of you and have decided to forego chemo and continue with his first recommendation which was rads followed by chemo, based on his own expertise with my pathology, confirmed by oncotype testing.



    I don't do well when facing down authority, taking my husband with me for backbone. Just wanted to share, and ask for good thoughts. Thanks, Kris

  • Bets4bama
    Bets4bama Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2013

    Kris .....can't really give any advice since I'm in the dark about a mammo print test and oncotype score. Sounds like you just need an explanation about the change of plan. What changed that made him change his mind? Good luck and let us know what he says!

    Betsy

  • Bets4bama
    Bets4bama Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2013
    CLYDAY....glad you're settled in and all set to start your treatment. Don't forget I'm here for you when needed...not far away at all. Headin to the beach at the end of the week but have to come back for Herceptin next week. Bummer. But I'll keep in tough with you.

    Oh my.... I almost forgot...tomorrow is IT! Last zap! Yippee!!! But my treatment center doesn't have a bell so I'm countin on you all to help me ring my invisible bell tomorrow!!! I'll check in to let you know if I cried or not...I do dearly love my rad team!

    Love to all,

    Betsy

    Oh and by the way, everything is better....left girl, mouth ulcers ( still there but better!), itchiness.....all better!

  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited May 2013

    Kkuziel, that is bizarre and annoying and scary.  I thought the mammo print test could only be done during surgery??  What made him want to do it?  I had a similar experience although without the surprise late timing.  I got a lovely low Oncotype score (13) and then was patronizingly nudged to do chemo anyway.  I did a long thread about this in the chemo forum.  I went for a second opinion that was very thorough.  I had to arrange for the hospital to send tissue slides (from biopsy, lumpectomy, sentinel lymph node); imaging from my MRI, xray, mammograms (3 years' worth), and ultrasounds, from two hospitals; and all narrative reports.  A new pathologist went over the slides and two other doctors read everything else plus the new path reports.  All came back no chemo, and I got a thorough review in a two-hour appointment.  Then it wasn't about me facing down the oncologist with my supposedly reckless desire to avoid chemo.  I recommend the process.  It was pretty smooth and routine, turned out two phone calls got all my records together, and quick, 10 days start to finish.  (Not counting the time it took me to pick a new oncologist.)

    Then again, if you are satisfied with your decision now, I say stand firm and just get whatever information you need out of your doctor and move ahead.

  • kkuziel
    kkuziel Member Posts: 191
    edited May 2013

    RunFree16, My pathology is very similar to your's without the lymphnode involvement - 90% hormone receptive. Everything I have read leads me to believe that the oncotype test is the "standard" in aiding treatment decisions and the mammaprint is a new comer (at least in America - has been used in Europe) Thus I would think a ton more data to support their findings. I've looked at all the graphs and charts that show minimal benefit from chemo with a score like mine (and tumor type) but that hormone therapy has a good advantage.

    When he first told me his new recommendation I felt like I had a whole new cancer - I felt like I had just had my surgery and was hearing my diagnoses for the first time. This was a serious set back to my well being. (talk about you mental health being as important as your physical health) Even before the oncotype he had recommended radiation followed by hormone therapy. It took me a couple days to remind myself this is the same tumor - the one that he, with his 26 years of experience, called from the very beginning with the pathology report (he even called the oncotype results. low or low intermediate - which I was)

    The mammoprint has no middle so you are either 10% or you go straight to 30% reoccurance - I understand that a doctor could then be off the hook for a judgement call - and in this world with malpractice around every corner that's probably a priority for them. But everywhere I've looked, including a chemo site at Johns Hopkins, they use the oncotype for people trying to make their decision.

    I'm so far out of the optimal chemo range (study that says 12 weeks is the outer limit - and I've seen it even lower) My MO said initially my benefit from chemo would be about 2% - not worth going through the risks - I would agree and will stress that point to him on Friday- I feel like I'm being irrational about this - but I think this is so bizarre that his second diagnoses feels a bit irrational.

    I know it's ultimately my decision - and seeing that others have gone before me helps. Will I make the right choice - don't know - I guess if it comes back people will say - wrong choice. But I've seen lots of people make the chemo choice and the cancer has returned (not to mention some long term side effects) - I don't think there is a ton of science to some of this - just chance - Let's face it very few people know why we got cancer in the first place - so it's likely they don't have any fast and true way to tell who will get a reoccurance.

    I don't know, I just want to move forward - and hope I can live with my decision.

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited May 2013

    Kkuziel - we'll be in your pocket for your 'face down' Friday! Stand strong warrior...



    Take a brief discussion paper with your concerns/decision points make 3- MO, hubby, and your. Ask hubby to write down answers and make sure each point is answered to your satisfaction. Sometimes just getting all our thoughts on paper helps clarify our thought process and review tx so far. Also it ensures you laided it all out...



    You will make the right decision for you! Now enjoy today! Sending you PEACE:)))

    (((Hugs)))

    Cindy

  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited May 2013

    Kkuziel, that is just really maddening behavior in an MO.  Mine, too, did a real about-face from visit 1 to visit 2 on quite a range of issues.  I tried to point out some of the ways he was being inconsistent, but he didn't see them. I actually believe he might be slipping.  He's only maybe 60 or 62 but his statements were just off, besides being medically obsolete.  You can ask for a patient advocate, tumor board referral, or second opinion if he continues to make you feel unheard.  He'll be managing your hormonal therapy, right?  I am sure you can face him down because you are well-informed and clear about your choice, but even so it can be tough to feel firm and calm about it.  Good luck and I do hope you'll let us know how it goes.

  • ChiefsFan
    ChiefsFan Member Posts: 5
    edited May 2013

    Hey Everyone - I've been out of the loop for awhile. Finished rads almost three weeks ago. My skin made it through ok with a 2 week break in the middle but my radiated breast (implant) is hard and hurts all the time. Does anyone know if that's normal? Will it soften or am I stuck with this? I know many PSs won't place implants after radiation but having implants radiated doesn't seem very smart either. You'd think with all the medical advances, there would be a less painful way for the patient. Will this nightmare ever end? I'm so tired of being in pain all the time. 

  • Bets4bama
    Bets4bama Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2013

    All done! Rads over at last. I even shed a few tears, from both joy and a touch of sadness. Guess it's just an emotional time when you enter this next phase of

    " treatment": trying to return to normal. If you're just starting your rads, you can do it!!!! Things are never as bad as we imagine them to be!

    Love to all and good night!

    Betsy

  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited May 2013

    Congratulations Betsy!!!!!  It IS emotional, and look at the long time you've been dealing with this--big corner you're turning!  I hope you are celebrating somehow, whatever that looks like for you!  What will it be?  Shopping, party, dancing, sleeping, all of the above?

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited May 2013

    Yippee Besty! Happy Dancing with you Ooo whoo! Zip zap laser tag DONE! You did great and Gulf Shores here you come:)))

    Tears of joy, tears of relief, tears of wow I did it - so done! Tears deserved. Think we're all sort of shell shocked and just put on our big girl pants and grab our warrior armor and press on into battle...then finally we get to ring the bell...breathe...and the reality of our fight for life just hits...yeah shell shocked and so relieved&overwhelned ...blessings and speedy recovery...keep lubing the girl...she's gonna look beautiful soon!

    (((Hugs)))

    Cindy

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited May 2013

    Hey CLYDAY



    Counting down! Yippee:). Weekend coming soon!

    What's your countdown calendar look like? Mine was sort of an adult advent calendar with pics of my treats....pandora beads, movie, stamps for writing notes, camis for comfort, family to call&facetime, camera to remind to take pics each day of journey, thank yous for counting my blessings, fav food, you get the idea...hubby for weekends:))) and special trip at the end with family:). I did funny sayings in post it's each day...stickers too!



    You're doing great warrior and you and Betsy will get to meet up too!

    (((Hugs)))

    Cindy

  • kkuziel
    kkuziel Member Posts: 191
    edited May 2013

    Looking forward to my celebration from radiation. Kind of got stolen from me with this new test tossed in my face. But feel good about my decision, based on oncotype test, and the first recommendation from MO. Appointment tomorrow and then I hope I will have the "moving forward" plan. Already have the appointment for first mammogram passed radiation. Going to try and enjoy a worry free five months - (well at least that's the plan) Thanks to all that have encouraged me this past few weeks - talk about a rollercoaster. Kris

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