Chemo May 2013
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Lily,
Glad it went well.
Love these people on the board that share so much personal info to make it easier for the rest of us.
Have you heard to take the claritan 24 the morning of the Neulasta shot and at least 7days following? It has been said to ward off the bone pain that is a potential side effect of the Neulasta.
My doctor did not recommend or forbid it,(she said the odds of bone pain are small and "it's not that bad" ). well reading the stories here... I did it the Claritan and had no bone pain. I will never know if I "would have been one to get it" and I really didn't want to find out!
Pat -
So glad you're feeling better Kate and did better with your latest treatment. Going for my third tomorrow, which will make me 25% finished, not that I'm counting or anything. I go for a walk in the mornings and then I'm just tired a lot of the day. I have a lot of respect for those of you who are still working. I went on short term disabiity, working from home a little, but not so much. Don't even really have the energy to cook dinner, but I'm going to try hard to make a favorite soup today, spicy chicken barley sweet potato soup. It seems like soup and english muffins are what I am living on these days. And protein really makes me feel better. Gotta go pick my 9 year old up. Maybe he'll help me cook..
Best to all the ladies here recovering from treatment and going into their next treatment tomorrow, like me. Got a good laugh about the camping reference. We look like that each week too and barely use it, especially after my ativan. Good luck everyone. -
Made it through my first chemo infusion today. It is also our 20th wedding anniversary - isn't it romantic? LOL. my husband is joking that he wanted to take me to Paris, but no, I had to take a toxic cocktail excursion instead. You have to find a way to laugh somehow, don't you?
Am doing taxotere and cytoxan - so far, so good, but I know it is early in the process for me. Am on a 21-day cycle with this, projected 4 treatments. Thanks for all the advice beforehand everyone! Now I know at least how everything is set up and what I needed - and didn't need (I totally overpacked and was a fellow camper today.). -
Elkatho - hope you like the cookbooks. I especially love her soup recipes - they are so yummy and healthy.
debwarrior - would love to have the spicy chicken barley sweet potato soup recipe if you are wiling to share. That sounds really tasty! Thanks in advance. -
Pat - The nurse said we could drink lots of things that will count towards the 2 liters but absolutely can't count soda. Water, juice, gatorade....try to stay away from tons of sugars. The protein is more to keep up our strength....I am sure there were other reasons but I got so much info at the chemo class I just don't remember all of the whys and why nots.
Getting nervous about Friday......glad to read that today went well for the two of you beginning treatments today.
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Teresa - one of the nurses told me today that if I couldn't keep anything else down, some warm (not hot, she said, just warm) swanson's natural goodness low sodium chicken broth is a good option. She said to make sure i got the low sodium kind, and not to drink too much all at once - just a little to sip each time. Or to try this trick: put a bottle of boost and some ice cubes in the blender, and make a protein smoothie. She said butter pecan is a favorite of most of the folks that have tried it, and the cold smoothie can really be soothing if you have mouth sore issues. We picked up a pack of butter pecan boost on the way home today, just in case...hope that helps.
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Teresa,
Not trying to argue, but Gatorade has a lot of surgers too (yes, half as much as soda, but still a lot!).
http://www.livestrong.com/article/492753-how-much-sugar-is-common-in-soft-drinks-and-gatorade/
I think if people are having difficulty tolerating water they need to be drinking whatever liquids they can tolerate, wether it be Gatorade, soda etc...I've seen a few people on these boards wind up in the ER due to dehydration, unable to tolerate the taste of liquid and vomiting, not a good combo!
Reddheddmom Happy Anniversary! I'm sure this is one Anniversary you won't forget!
Glad you read the boards. There is a TON of info on here to help you through.
Love that camping reference. About the only thing NOT in my cooler bag was a 6 pack!
Pat -
She did say if we drank Gatorade that the G2 formula was the best for us. I figure if I can get 2 liters of anything down they will be lucky. I am just not a huge drinker......I know I need to flush the chemo out but seriously. Some of that two liters will definitely include some soda for me. However if my taste buds are wigging out on me and nothing tastes good for a while who knows what I will want to drink.
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Welcome Lily. Be sure to start claritin to avoid aches and pains from neulasta.
Mcgis and Ljaeger no one told me how sore port would be first few days after insertion. I lived with ice pack on chest and it was only time I needed pain meds. Don't mean to scare you but I was unprepared and I have seen similar posts here.
Gully I agree taking command of hair is a good thing. I cried more when it was falling out then when it was shaved. Head is itchy now so must shave rest of it now. My second round of chemo was much faster than first. Hope yours goes well. I go for labs tomorrow and hopefully all will be well. Btw my husband would be thrilled if I went on cleaning frenzy! Haven't felt that urge yet!
AryaS I found once I started chemo I was much calmer. Still have cried don't get me wrong but waiting to start treatment was the worst!
Have a good evening
Lisa -
Hi Ladies,
Well a delay for starting chemo for me. Was scheduled to start AC tomorrow morning but at visit with MO this afternoon when I asked about results from the Mugga turns out my heart function is a bit off. Concern is that combined with my Rheumatoid Arthritis (also hard on the heart) may put me more at risk for heart failure complications. So I am going for a rush Ecocardiogram on Sunday, off to Vancouver on Tuesday for my scheduled appt's. with Rheumatologist and GP and THEN hopefully start chemo Wednesday of next week.
Depending on results of next heart scan may change from AC treatment to DC (less effective and shorter duration but less risk of heart damage).
Two things really bother me about this. First of all it was ME that asked and questioned about the Mugga test...if I had not, it would have been overlooked and I would have started AC in the morning. Proud of myself that I am an excellent manager and advocate for my own health but seriously - if the scan was required prior to starting the chemo then so should looking at the results!!!!! Also, did not need an office visit for that, it could have been handled over the phone...but oh right, she would have had to have looked at results to know that. Secondly, and I know this is minor but I'm back to the waiting game and yes, as some of you have said that is one of the hard parts. My MO and the hospital I'm getting my Ecocardiogram at is 1 1/2 hours out of town so this is also adding additional stress, cost and.... well, enough complaining. Disappointing - I was so very ready for tomorrow to be day one but of course I would rather be certain that the treatment I am about to undergo is the best for my situation.
Venting over. It's only a slight delay and I just need to get my head around it.
Lily - glad to hear day 1 went well for you.
ReddHeddMom - day 1 good report from you is good as well. Also Happy 20th!!
Keep Strong and Carry On!
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OceanWarrior-I'm so sorry your chemo was delayed, and I feel your pain. Mine was delayed prior to my initial start date due to the fact that my surgical drain was slow to come out. It was really frustrating, because you can't put it behind you if you can't start!
Hang in there! -
Lily & ReddHedd.... Glad today went well!
Pat... No lottery on when I'd show up buzzed, but the all kept asking to see it! Haha I'm lucky to work with a great group who made the transition comical rather than sad.... Couple of the guys took their hats off their balding heads & it was determined by the rest of them that my dome was much nicer! Haha
Only, the owner of the company, whom I've been friends with for over a decade gave me a hug & it wasn't until he started crying that I did... I'm very fortunate to have great friends and family & ALL OF YOU STRONG WOMEN to help me through this... Thank you!
Best of luck to all going in for their next treatments tomorrow! I feel so grateful I have a week before my next one! Pain gone, hair gone & feeling pretty good.... Almost forgot what I'm going thru today untilni went to scratch my head! Haha
Happy thoughts everyone!
Lorrie -
OceanWarrior: I had the echocardiogram last week and they found some "slight mitral valve regurgitation" and "trace pulmonary valve regurgitation". My Onc says full steam ahead with chemo. I was all, Wait a minute, what about this regurgitation stuff? And she said she'd have me see a cardiologist once I was done with chemo.
What the what?!!
It seems every scan I get, I find out more things are falling apart. -
AryaS - will see what my latest scan brings. Glad you were able to go full steam ahead. I'm hoping for the same. So much goes on with all of this. Overwhelming to say the least. Part of me is happy that at every turn they jump so fast to get me moving through the system - like a scan on Sunday (she said don't worry, there won't be anyone at the desk but they will be expecting you) but can't help feeling a bit Yikes!!!
Having a bit of a meltdown right now - too many emotions today. Was on the launchpad ready to go and got pulled back. And for some reason.... I was "giving off bad energy and hate" when hubs was on the phone with his daughter....now he and I are fighting. Really!!? Rough day.
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I understand about meltdowns. I've been having them for days. I hope you and hubby are able to resolve it.
I think we all deserve to be treated gently by our loved ones.
This is a lot, what we are going through. -
OceanWarrior,
I'm sorry for the rough patch! Especially when it riffs on the relationship! Its enough to be going through the physical and EMOTIONAL shit from this..... Hang in there!
Thoughts are with you!
Lorrie -
Well said AryaS!!
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So I am DETERMINDED to go into work today. I took an ativan last night and slept like a baby all night long and it felt good. I have to go to the PS today for a TE fill up and then I'm headed straight to the office. I don't know what to pack in my lunch box as nothing "tastes" good to me right now.
Today I feel about the most human that I have done since my first chemo on May 13th. Hair still hanging in there - it can't be much longer right? I was looking at wigs online last week, Lace front, monofilimant, capless - there are so many options!!!!!
Stay strong today ladies!!!
xxx
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Kate- I am sooooo glad you are feeling so much better! Work will be a good distraction for you. Ativan is a God send right?....I never took pills unless I abosoulty had to before BC now I feel like a druggy!
Wigs are confusing:
I learned a few things that may help you. Real hair wigs are wicked expensive and hard to take care of ($300-1000) depending on length). Think of your real hair made into a wig, you have to wash dry, style etc....
Microfilament wigs look more like real hair at the part especially but without as much upkeep. (cost about $100-150). They keep there style, so you just shake and put on and go. You have to clean them with special wig care products but only about 1 per week if you live in a warmer climate and 1 per 2-3 weeks in a colder climate. You can style these with some wig scultping creams, and wig hair sprays etc. They have more movement than the cheaper synthetic wigs ($50-70). Lace fronts are necessary if you are a person who likes to wear you hair swept back from your face. It gives the appearance of a real hair line. Otherwise, if you like bangs caps are fine.
I got one of mine, a cheap one, from tlcdirect.com, to see if I could get used to wearing one. Its nice but the part can look kind of funky up close especially if it get windy outside.
I then got another one from wigs.com for $120 and I really like it! You really cant tell its not real hair. It moves with the wind but goes right back with a flip of your hand just like real hair. I took it to my hairdresser and she cut it a little to fit my face. My Hubby likes it too.
FYI- If you go to a wig bank in your area sponsored by the American Cancer society you can get a wig and all the products for free! Happy hunting... its kind of fun after you get used to the idea! (Thanks for the tip Pat) I think I am going to find something funky for this one. Maybe asymmetricaly cut or a funky color! I have an appointment next Tues.
I hope everyone has a good day! As for me off to round #2! Must pack my camping bag...LOL
Scheree
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Hello all!
I started my TCH treatment on May 9 and seemed to handle it well....yes I had the usual suspects...indigestion, diarrea, cotton brain, but over all got through it and worked everyday. Then on the 13th day out I spiked a 103+ fever! Saw the doctor who ran cultures, blood tests, chest xrays and found nothing. He thinks it was my body responding to my high wbc count from the neulesta shot. Go figure....started on antibiotics and am fine now. Going in for my weekly herceptin infusion today. Got to keep this moving forward!
As for my hair.....not coming out yet! haven't lost the nether regions either. I asked the nurse about it and she said I'd likely lose it for sure after the second treatment (May 30). So until it gives up the ghost...I'll delay the shave for the time being.
Hugs to all
Annie
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Here is the link again to find the Look Good Feel Better (LGFB) program near you.
http://lookgoodfeelbetter.org/
They give you a free makeup kit (they have for all skin Colors) and show you how to apply the makeup, with special tip on making eyes look like they have lashes...
Just an FYI, not all the programs are the same.
Someone posted that theirs offered scarf tying, but did not offer wigs, they had to go to a wig bank run bybthenAnerican Cancer Society. No big deal, it's still free, just another stop.
Mine did not offer scarf tying thing, but had wigs. And the one I went to had a box of gently used donated items they let me take all I wanted! Picked up a few things, especially a head cover for sleeping now st it is "air conditioner season".
Keep in mind that wigs run petite, average and large. My noggin really needs a large to be comfy...unfortunately I forgot about size when I picked up my free wig and now notice it is an average and a bit snug,which means I won't be wanting to wear it when it is hot and tight!
Additionally, I went to two locations, you have to bring your makeup kit with you the second time. I had run so late the first place I missed the demo. Anyhow, the second place had the wigs...BUT did not have wig stand or the wig care products to give out! They said they hadn't heard of it.!? So I told them a LGFB program only 20 minutes away had that stuff, and they should look into it. (Yes, I have a big mouth)
I was glad I went to a different cancer center. I saw that they have a tattoo artist that can do 3D nipples (not that I need them at this time, but not sure if I will after my next surgery).
There is always something to learn!
Oh, to make a wig stand...I had seen a video somewhere , that showed using a two liter bottle of soda, cut itin half or so and invert into each other (so spout is inside) and the bottom of the bottle is now the top...the wig sits on it. No need to buy one!
I wouldmimaginenit would be easier to make using two bottles? it would sit taller?
Also read its not good to store a wig on a stand for long term(week or more?) so there is a lot to learn about wigs!
Read up ladies, I know that's my next step to investigate!
Pat -
Had my first chemo yesterday and was fine until about 6 pm when the nausea hit. I thought eating would help but it didn't. Took Zofran then some gravel which helped me sleep. I mean its just mild nausea but gross just the same! No vomiting. Hopefully I can keep on track with the anti nausea pills for today and it'll subside.
Lisa and Patti I'm ready with the Claritin. The doctor said it might help and the pharmacist said there are no studies to support but based on old research Claritin or reactine could both help with Neulasta pain. -
Patty I am glad you are on here and do much research. I get home from work to tired to do much of anything but take off wig and sit! Thankfully dd home for summer and doesn't mind making dinner most nights. You are a wealth of info and much appreciate it. I am lucky to live 20 minutes away from vinnie's tatoo shop. He is quite famous for his 3d nipple tatoos. You will see him mentioned in the reconstruction threads. People from all over country go to him here. He also travels to NOLA to work on the ladies who go there for reconstruction.
Kate hope you have a good day at work. Good to hear you sounding so good!
My wig is monofilament with lace cap. I find it hot and itchy but it does look quite good. I went to a salon of a bc survivor who hoped me pick out a wig and then styled it for me. She had a nice private room where I could shed a few tears and shed a lot of hair. The wig was 140 and is on the long side.
Today I am getting bloodwork and went wigless. Have a few errands to run after so will be first time out and about commando in a ballcap. Couldn't bear to wear wig in the heat so decided to grin and bare it. Lol.
Hope 2nd treatment goes well today Gully.
Great day to all
Lisa -
I haven't been on in a few days as I got so much sicker. Could never get diarrhea under control and started running a low fever. Not enough to call Dr But enough to make me feel awful. Yesterday I could not take it anymore so I called Dr and they had me come in. I am severely neutropenic with a very low white blood count. They gave me fluids, script for antibiotic and another diarrhea Med. Sent me home. Fever returned But I rode it out. Feel slightly better today But still having diarrhea issues. I'm just so weak and tired. Hopefully things will be on upswing soon. Sure makes me dread next treatment. But at least next time they will give me neulasta. Hopefully that will prevent some of this.
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Ah Shelly - I feel like we're travelling the same journey through this chemo hell road. My diahrrhea has stopped thankfully.
So I made it into work for all of 5 minutes when I got a call from the elementary school that my 6 year old had a head ache!!! So I left work and I'm back home again. Got a little cleaning done which felt good.
THANKS for all the wig tips - those were really really helpful. I am going to research my local "wig bank" - would be fun to pick out a freebie!!!
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I just started on Monday the 20th. I'm doing the TAC blend. My side effects so far are red flushed face with no temp, some queasiness, and some of the other stuff. My mouth and tongue are starting to get sore, so my onc is calling in something. I'm also very tired. I didn't expect all this from the first treatment. How is everyone else doing?
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Hello,
I thought I might join this group since my chemo started at the very end of April and I should be on a similar schedule to many of you. I hope that works for you all. I have read your posts and learned a lot!
I had my second treatment of 6 this past Monday and and trying to get rid of the bone pain from the neulesta and I am feeling the fatigue/flu today. On my first treatment this day and tomorrow were the worst for me.
This go around I had IV hydration for 2 days following the chemo and that seems to help. It would be great if I felt better tomorrow. One can hope! -
Had my second DD AC treatment yesterday. Feeling nauseous but not too bad so far. Hair is falling out quite badly by now and it gets worse every day. I think will cut it to an inch or so soon.
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Greetings,
I see there are a number of people starting their chemo,mor recently started, and a lot of us discussing side effects.
I wanted to share again a useful and possibly helpful side effects worksheet for chemo.
http://www.cancer.org/acs/groups/content/@nho/documents/document/acsq-009502.pdf
I keep mine next to my favorite chair and go through it each night and check it off.
I was also squeezing in the meds I would take that were "extra" (Prilosec, Claritan, Miralax, stool softener). I found I did not need the sheet past day 7 (thankfully)
It is easy to refer to and helpful instructions as to when to call your doctor.
You can bring it with you to the next chemo (stick it in that camping bag! Lol) and go over it with your doctor as opposed to trying to remember (my memory SUCKS).
Please note that not all potential side effects are listed on it, but there is room to note others on the last page.
Pat -
Lpc,
Yes,I've read about Vinnie...he is filed in the back of my mind should I need him! Though I will be checking out the local gal first if needed. But ANY excuse to travel! Lol
I have learned so much from the DIEP and NOLA boards (I've not read Charlotte- I need to cut back! Lol-I'm even debating to drop the NOLA from my favorites and as I get closer to surgery maybe go back on.)
Goldie, welcome to the board, sorry you had to join us. Did you try using Claritan 24 to avoid the pain? Use day of Neulasta and the following 7 days. Not all MO recommend-mine didn't care one way or the other. Knock wood, no bone pain for me, I used the Claritan.
Lily- there was a study done. I read about it on these boards, somewhere.
I cannot find a link but if you type this phrase into google you will get a lot of links to people using it "claritan to combat neulasta side effect study"
Pat
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