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  • S3K5
    S3K5 Member Posts: 606
    edited May 2013

    Thanks for all the 'tips' about this shot! This is really helpfu. I have just started Faslodex and going in for the second shot on Monday. My nurse didn't know about bringing the vial to room temperature! I had to tell her this and I am glad she obliged!

    I got Xgeva and Faslodex on the same day. Not too bad compared to the chemo I had five years ago!

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited May 2013

    Desi,

    Welcome to our little corner of the world. Looks like you are a new member to club mets. So sorry to meet you this way, but we are a kind group. May the Faslodex work for you for a very long time.

    *susan*

  • hollander
    hollander Member Posts: 213
    edited May 2013

    Greetings to all of the Faslodex girls--

    Thanks to all of you who have posted on this site!  Your advice and insight have been a huge help and comfort as I've started this treatment.  Just had #5 on Thursday.  I've had a different nurse every time, and each has had her own warming technique.  The first was by far the easiest-- only felt the initial needle stick.  The next two were more uncomfortable (not bad, and only for as long as the needle was in)-- a combo of not quite warm enough and given a bit too quickly.  On the 4th, I decided to take charge and felt the syringes myself to be sure they were warm enough.  They weren't, so the nurse and I joked about it (I told her I had a lot of gardening to do over the weekend and couldn't be sore).  After getting the temp up, she administered the injections slowly, and all was well!  Same routine with the nurse this week-- we did some extra warming, and she was the slowest yet, so no injection site issues this time.  Funny how we become thankful for these little details that can make a big difference.

    I've noticed more "zinging", pin-prick sort of burning pain after my last two injections.  It's not constant, but was off and on for a couple of weeks.  I'm hoping this is the Faslodex taking care of business.  It's not bad- advil usually takes care of it.  Have any of you experienced this?  

    I have a good friend, also with metastatic disease.  She just started Faslodex on Thursday, so we'll be on the same injection schedule.  How crazy is it to be excited to have a treatment buddy doing the same thing?  We're just glad to have each other, because the rest of the world just doesn't get what it means to be on our  journey.  I've been an avid reader of all of these boards, and am soooo thankful for all of the information, advice and support that I've seen.  

    Sending big hugs to all of the stage iv girls--

    Holly

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited May 2013

    Holly, yes, you've got to take charge--nicely, of course. Sometimes the nurses don't know to warm the stuff or inject it slowly; they aren't trained in Faslodex administration and just assume it's a regular IM injection. I too have had that "zinging" pain as well as other interesting stabs and itches and aches. I'd bet that it's caused by inflammation from the injection, but have no idea if that's actually so. Tylenol helps for me.

    Tina

  • hollander
    hollander Member Posts: 213
    edited May 2013

    Thanks for your reply, Tina.  Almost all of my aches and pains are the area where I have lung mets- left side, in the rib area.  I've had some minor itching around the injection sites, but nothing needing medication.  Hope that continues- one less thing to think about!

    Holly

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited May 2013

    Holly, I misunderstood. I thought you were referring to pains in the butt (!). If I had weird sensations in the area of my lung mets, I'd ask my doctor about what it might indicate.

    Tina

  • Aerial
    Aerial Member Posts: 194
    edited May 2013

    HOLLANDER--thank you for your statement about "the rest of the world just doesn't get what it means to be on our journey."  That is something I struggle with.  I want to be understood but, it's so hard to communicate what's going on in my head and heart.   I, too, have a few friends who are living with metastatic breast cancer.  In their company I do feel understood and it is such a relief

    Hang on to hope my "Bottoms Up sisters" (((((HUGS)))))

  • Annettea
    Annettea Member Posts: 21
    edited May 2013

    Had doctors visit today good news faslodex working scans show bone met in leg you can hardley see lung nets two gone one very small hard to see. I never saw my onc smile so much when he told me the results of the scans. When I got home I walked in the door and said thank you God. I was scared the faslodex wasn't working but it was. I hope and pray it will work for a long time. NOW I Can get a good nights sleep if my butt does not hurt from the shot small price to pay so I won't complain. HOPE all you gals have good results on faslodex.

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited May 2013

    Annettea, great news! A smiling oncologist is a lovely sight indeed!

    Tina

  • S3K5
    S3K5 Member Posts: 606
    edited May 2013

    Annettea, good to hear Faslodex is working! Hope the shot doesn't hurt too much!

  • Lynne
    Lynne Member Posts: 641
    edited May 2013

    Annetta, good news!

    I have been on it for almost a year now, and on all my every 3 month scans, it shows shrinkage of my tumors. I asked my oncologist recently, how long was the longest a patient of theirs was on Faslodex. She said 10 years, but the average is 18 months. I'm hoping to break that average! : )

    Good luck!

    Lynne

  • sandilee
    sandilee Member Posts: 1,843
    edited May 2013

    Ten years!  That's amazing, as I didn't know it had been out that long.

  • M360
    M360 Member Posts: 356
    edited May 2013

    Okay ladies this is hard to ask but I want to know if anyone else has back pain and then loss of control in the bowel area after their injections.  I had a lot of bone and joint pain and with lupus and arthritis they felt I had to be on Cytoxan while on Faslodex.  I do so well with Cytoxan but the Faslodex is still causing shoulder joint pain, but the lower back along with loss of control makes me wonder if I should stay on such or not. The cancer in my spine and right hip and femur caused such groin pain and hip pain that I couldn't drive that is how they found the cancer there.  My tumor marker finally stayed the same and didn't increase for the first time in six months so the Faslodex is working, but I can't eat dinner with family or go out to eat because of control problems and loss of feeling.   Has this happened to any of you in the past or do you know of anyone else this has happed to?

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited May 2013

    M360,

    My first response to your post is "that sucks!" But not the response you need or crave, I suspect. I do not have this problem, though my Grave's Disease [one of the other auto-immune diseases] has played havoc with my bowels when compared to my "normal." But still nothing like what you are describing. My brain keeps going through the list of women on this site who have had Faslodex and I don't recall reading about this side effect.

    I bet, like most of us, you have a whole team of doctors. I would question each of them to try to find a solution. If you don't have a gastro, this might be the time to expand your team by one. To abandon a drug that is working for any side effect that could be solved would be so very sad.

    Sorry I am no help at all,

    *susan*

  • Annettea
    Annettea Member Posts: 21
    edited May 2013

    Desi NJ

    Yes the shot really hurt last night. The nurse that gave the shot was in a hurry she didn't warm it up and injected to fast and hit me high on the backside. I didn't care I just wanted to go home after seeing the onc and getting bloodwork it was a long visit. My husband takes me to all my doctors visits and he had to get back to work so I didn't want to sit there and tell them to warm them up and inject it slow. Next time I will.

  • EvaPerone
    EvaPerone Member Posts: 94
    edited May 2013

    Dear M360: I get very loose bowels for the first few days post injection. Enough that I stick pretty close to home but may not be in the realm of what you're facing. It gradually gets better each month until I go for next Faz dose. Eva

  • S3K5
    S3K5 Member Posts: 606
    edited May 2013

    Annettea,

    My nurse was also in a hurry and had not warmed the vial. I told her that if the vial was not at room temperature, I should probably wait. She was nice enough to wait for another 15 mins and gave me the shot very slowly. This definitely makes a difference. I am sorry your shot hurt. Does advil or some pain reliever help?

  • Annettea
    Annettea Member Posts: 21
    edited May 2013

    Desk NJ



    No I don't take anything for the pain. My husband tells me to take advil but I don't. When I take a shower I let the hot water hit it seems to help. Little sore today but it is much better. Next injection I will tell them to warm it up and inject slowly and not so high near the hip. I wish they would train these nurses on these injections instead of us having to tell them how to do it.

  • M360
    M360 Member Posts: 356
    edited May 2013

    Ladies,  Thank you so much for your input.  I do have a GI Doctor and with discussion of such and a accident while at the hospital even though I ate nothing before visit.  I was referred to a new study for a FI Life Study with a new device for IBS.  The study is now reviewing my medical history and neuropathy to make sure I can participate.  This is not medication but a device that stops leakage and accidents from happening.  Hopefully I can be a part of the study, if not Oncologist feels that we might have to stop Faslodex and opt for another medication.  I was allergic to Femara and had severe swelling that I had to use a Epi Pen.  They say that there are other new medications that are on the market.  I've had such good results from Faslodex and other side effects I'm able to live with.  They are worried about too much dehydration for I take Cytoxan and you have to drink, drink, drink water so that you flush it from your Bladder.   I'm having a PET Scan in two weeks to make sure the problem is not being caused by the cancer in spine and right hip that could be causing numbness and the incontinence.   

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited May 2013

    Had my third (including loading dose) on Wednesday.  The doc looked at me sideways [again] -- I don't have the usual side-effects but do have a lovely drug rash.  Guess they hadn't seen that one before (or at least not recently).

    Man does my butt bother me.  not enough for pain meds, but makes it very stiff walking, and I have knots in each of the three spots they've injected, not to mention the [itchy] drug rash.  I must be allergic to this stuff in some minor way. Thank heavens for hydrocortisone cream.

    I'm just venting.  At least I have a month to recover this time.  And I don't have nausea or fatigue.  Should count myself lucky.

    P.S.  My docs give me "the look" a lot.  I always have side effects they've never heard of.  (When I had Taxol I developed huge blisters on the bottom of my feet)

  • sandilee
    sandilee Member Posts: 1,843
    edited May 2013

    Hi Faslodex sisters,

      I just wanted to mention again to any of you who are new to this drug and have allergy problems with it (itching, swelling) that taking Benedryl an hour before my shot, and then another one when I get home (so I don't get too sleeepy) really helped me.  My oncologist suggested this last year when my skin was splitting at the injection site and causing a big sore.  It's been a great supplement, and really stops the itching and swelling.

      This month is my two-year anniversary on Faslodex, and it's still keeping me stable. Knock on wood. Smile

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited May 2013

    Sandilee, thanks for the tip -- I'll definitely do that next month.  Although now there is apparently a shortage of benadryl, LOL.

  • sandilee
    sandilee Member Posts: 1,843
    edited May 2013

    I didn't know there was a shortage!   You might have your doc prescribe it if you can't find it in the store.  I'm using a prescription pill, although it's the same stuff you buy over the counter.

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited May 2013

    I'm sure it's in the store.  It just happened to appear on the list of the nation's drug shortages.  I have a whole three weeks to find some  Wink 

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited May 2013

    Spent a bit of time viewing my calendar this morning, and why yes, another month has passed. Tomorrow will be month 40 for me. Tonight I will begin my hydration since the blood draw continues to be difficult. No benadryl etc for me, at least for now. As long as I can tolerate the injection without any additional medication, I will not take anything. As usual, I will NOT cook on treatment day and instead, we will go out to dinner. That is my treat for getting through the day!

    *susan*

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited May 2013

    Yay, Susan! Thanks again for the hydration reminder--we still share the same schedule. And you are my Faslodex role model!



    Comfort food will be served to me tomorrow night, as usual. Almost two years of montly pasta bolognese is a quite a tradition.



    i am going to ask my oncologist tom

    orrow for his professional estimate of how long I may continue to enjoy this level of stability and QOL. I know we are all different, but I want his prognosis based on his observation of my response to treatment, etc.



    Tina





  • Tree3
    Tree3 Member Posts: 159
    edited May 2013

    Good luck to you on that question with your onc. Tomorrow, Tina. I wouldn't dare ask, I'm just taking it a day at a time. But I don't have to see my onc until sept. but wait, I bet something happens and ill have to see her sooner.

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited May 2013

    Oh TIna, I would never ask that question! I can only imagine the look on my onc's face. She and I do discuss openly that I am doing remarkably well on the Faslodex. She has stated that I appear to be in a small group of patients at the hospital who is getting far more than the average time on this med. It appears to give her great joy.

    *susan*

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited May 2013

    Tree and Susan, I am curious as to why you wouldn't ask. Here's my reason: In Rome I saw there were pitifully few accomodations made for tourists with any physical disabilites: from people in wheelchairs to those who simply were slow to keep up with others. Many countries are not as advanced as the US with our ADA, etc. Realizing this anew--now in the light of being Stage IV in addition to aging-- gave me pause. Frankly, if it's at all possible for my doctor to gauge, I want to know how long I can expect to be in this state of relative capability and health so I can make travel and other plans and spend my hard-earned savings instead of leaving it to charity. Do you think this is this an awful question to ask my doctor because it puts him on the spot or because he won't have an answer or because I might not like the answer?

    Tina

  • Tree3
    Tree3 Member Posts: 159
    edited May 2013

    Well Tina, first of all, when I was diagnosed last Auguat with breast cancer to lung and spine, which, by the way, my lung had become full of fluids and collapsed, and I'm 73 years old, I asked them point blankly and they answered point blankly, 8 to 10 months.

    8 months was in April, when I jumped off a plane after traveling for ten days in the South of France, and came home to put my condo on the market and have a house built near my son. Hopefully the house will be ready by fall. My brother calls it a Taj Mahal. He's kidding of course, but I feel like I can go on for awhile and so does my onc. I also know that these meds can stop working, but I believe there's enough other drugs out there to keep me going. Am I kidding myself? I don't think so. But I'm going to keep on going as though I can, and I can. So, that's my theory and I'm sticking with it. Of course I go into panic mode every month when my blood is tested, but I keep going, one foot in front of the other and try not to look back. Not sure if this helps, but that's the way it is for me.

    Teresa

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