Diagnosed this month and have no one to relate to with ILC
Im 32 years old and mother of 4 girls, just diagnosed a month ago with stage 2 grade 1 Invasive Lobular Carcinoma Her2- no nodes, so far localized. I have no one to relate to in my area, nor do I know anyone who had preoperative chemotherapy before there double mastectomy....Just curious if anyone out there can relate or are ILC survivors that can share their story?!? I am still new to this and do not know if my cancer is estrogen positive or progesterone positive? I have friends who survived breast cancer, but theirs were Ductal. I'm not sure if that even matters? I just want someone to talk to:/
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Hi Cris32, I know the confusion and fear you are going through right now. So many unknowns. I was diagnosed 11 months ago, 2 surgeries and radiation since then. I was stage 2 as well, but grade 2. ILC tends to be the better type of BC to have, because often it is less aggressive. My right side had the cancer and on March 20th, I had a preventative on the other side. I'm taking Tamoxifen for 5 years to lower my estrogen levels, as mine was estrogen/progesterone + as well. I did not have Chemo as it would have only reduced my risk of recurrence by 2%. After a lot of thought and taking with my doctors, I decided not to. I'm sure other ladies can respond to give you the preoperative chemo perspective.
Hang in there Chris32, I know how hard it is those first few months. Once you have a plan and have some facts, it it does get easier. Take deep breathes, one day at a time and hug those beautiful girls of yours....
-Sharon (aka butterflylady)
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I too had chemo before BMX. Then I had some more chemo after, but my cancer was also more aggressive and advanced than yours.
It pisses me off that you have to deal with this so young, but I hope you can find some of the support you need here.
Have they tested for BRCA yet?
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Hi Cris, I am sorry about your diagnosis. It must be a huge shock at your age.
You are not alone here as this is a very supportive community and some of us have ILC.
My tumour was stage 3 and I had lumpectomy, chemo, radiation and am now on hormone therapy.
We will help you through and answer any questions.
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Ya'll have no idea how happy it has made me, tears of joy, to see a response!! I am so new to all of this and I'm still trying to fix my profile to show my dx and treatments. I started chemo 12 days ago, I have to do 6 cycles every three weeks of taxotere, cytoxan, and the one everybody calls the red punch or red devil! I couldn't begin to spell the "A" word lol I don't want to jump off this site to google spelling either. I receive all 3 in one day. I still have 5 more to go and I was told between the 3rd and 4th chemo treatment I meet with a plastic surgeon to discuss the double mastectomy. 3 weeks after my last cycle is when the surgery suppose to take place. They were supposed to test me for the gene! I'm going to make sure they do when I go back. As far as hormone based too I don't think mine is? That is another question I need to ask. I'm trying to get it together, it is so much to take in. I just know I have a tumor almost the size of a lime in my left breast and I went for a mammogram with ultrasound back in Jan. to be told I had a benign calcification. I knew when my nipple was indenting something wasn't right!! Went back to my Gyno to be sent to a general surgeon that did a biopsy and basically told me before the results came back if it was benign she wouldn't believe it. I knew it was cancer before the results came back. I was shocked I didn't realize it was so big! They did an MRI, CT scan, and PET scan all came back normal. I was told preoperative chemo was best for me because of the size. It was biopsied twice, because the first time they didn't get enough to show my receptors? Then the second time is when they said, ok this is Her2 - and you need to start chemo in 2 days so we can shrink this and get it out. I have small breast, full B don't know if that TMI but I just want to hear others and what they're going through. Yes, I'm 32:/ I was upset knowing I was about to fight a monster, still upset....what am I talking about? I haven't even begun! I'm just so excited that ya'll ladies responded I'm trying to give as much as I can!!! Thank ya'll so so much!!
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Dear Cris32:
I wanted to chime in so that you know that this is a good place to come to and that you have plenty of support. ILC isn't as common as IDC but the first thing my surgeon said to me is that it can be less aggressive and to feel hopeful. I've hung onto that. He himself had a bout of cancer and he's very open and honest, and not falsely optimistic, so I choose to believe him.
Your life is completely upside down now, and I remember people telling me when I was where you are now, that things will go back to normal. They were right. This July will be 3 years and there are actually days that pass when I no longer obsess about breast cancer. I am coming up to my yearly MRI and this is always a rough time for me (PTSD) but even with that, I like to think that I'm doing all that I can to stay healthy and that, God willing, I will be ok.
There are so many good stories out there, it's important to not get stuck on the bad ones. Treatment keeps getting better, you've got a lot to live for. I didn't have chemo, but had a unimastectomy, no reconstruction yet, (maybe never - I like not feeling pressure to have more surgery right now.) I switched to femara after two years on tamoxifen and am feeling well.
Feel welcome here, ask anything you like, we are sisters in this. With love, Shari
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Dearest Cris32, We are all here with you! It is so shocking in the beginning, it does get easier. I did not have to go through chemo, so I have no insight, there are many here who have and will guide you. Know that you are not alone. We are all in the same boat, just using different oars.
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Welcome Cris,
Sorry you have to go thorugh this so young...I can't imagine. I did have aggresive tx as you can see, and did fine.
One thing I did throughout my dx/tx/etc was to get a copy of every report printed and every scan made and keep in a folder, beginning with my pathology report. I might suggest you do that too.
Hang in there-we are here for you.
Claire
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Cris, we are just doing our jobs
it sounds like you are in good hands. I also had a big-ass, nasty tumor. How is the chemo treating you so far?
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I just cant thank ya'll enough for the responses:)Lots of Love and Hugs to Each and everyone of ya'll! Today, I was invited to a "look good feel good" class in hope to meeting other women personally also. I figured I'd take whatever the cancer center had to offer so I can get more knowledge about this. I felt like I was thrown in. I am wondering while I'm there if I can get a copy of my reports? I'm going to def. look into that today Claire:) thank you for the suggestion. If I can't get it today, I see my oncologist next week for my next round of treatment. I found I was really scared before my first round of chemo (the fear of the unknown) but I'm adjusting ok now. I had long beautiful hair, but it didn't bother me too bad when I was told I'd lose it, so I shaved it off a few days ago:) Wig shopping was fun with the hubby. Trying to keep positive especially for my kids. My girls are 14,10,8, and 2. Another playing factor in all this is my husband works in South Korea every other month, so It's literally only my girls and I while he's gone. My mom lives away but she has traveled to be there when needed so far. This is all such a big blow. Thanks again for the responses just seems a little easier too knowing I'm not alone.....I'm rambling.....again hugs
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Treatment wasn't too terribly bad, I had side effects of dry mouth, couldn't quench my thirst!! Everything had "0" taste for a couple days, but came back. I was sore on day 3 and 4. Day 4 was the worst and it was Mothers Day, but I made the best of it. I haven't lost my appetite yet. I eat more, but I think that's from the steroids? I'm guessing. I suffered from awful headaches for a week. As of today, 12 days in I feel fine. I get heart palpitations pretty bad though.
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Cris, just think of the chemo as whomping on all your cancer cells. I tried to "embrace" the tx, when it was dripping into me, as much as I could. I know it sounds weird, but the chemo drugs were my Special Forces-Green Berets-commandoes-counter-terrorist warriors. Every time I had chemo I wrote in my journal "go in there and GET 'em"! Being married to a retired Special Ops soldier might have had something to do with it
All you have to do to get a copy of any report is to ask. You might have to show some ID to pick reports up, but they are yours--you hired the experts to prepare those reports just like you'd hire an accountant to do your taxes. Remember--you are in charge of your treatment and health; no one will care more about your healthy future like you do. Knowledge is power.
Hugs
Claire
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Hi Cris,
I too had chemo before surgery. I didn't have a complete response, but it shrunk the tumor considerably. I also had the mammo, ultrasound, and mri and they were all clear. It did finally show up on the PET Scan, but that was after the biopsy. You are more than likely ER/PR positive, but that's not a given, but ILC does seem to trend that way. Hopefully, you will get all your answers soon. Waiting is the hardest part! Keep your head up!
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cris - hugs
my onc nurse started a 3-ring binder for me on day one .... she put everything in it ... blood tests, chemo type & doses, etc ... that way if i had to see another doctor for some reason or go to ER then i could just grab it and there would be all the info they might want to see rather than relying on my poor old memory ... i recommend you start one for yourself too ...
and remember the chemo rule "drink lots and pee often" ....

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Hugs ladies:)
I made it back from the " look good feel better" class that was offered to me at the cancer center; and I was able to find out that I was ER+ PR+ . The nurse I usually speak to was off today so the social worker there looked up my record and wrote on a post it that read.......
Negative for Her2/neu
Overexpression
Positive for estrogen and progesterone receptors
and I basically was told to ask her when she's back what it all means. I plan on asking for all my paperwork when I go back for my 2nd treatment and starting a binder. That is a great idea. I have so many papers already. I need to sort through and see what is important and what isn't.
Claire, I LOVE the way you put that about your treatments!!! I too thought to myself, it wasn't bad stuff being pumped in me, but the good stuff that will rid my body of this nasty thing:) Your visualization is a lot more creative!! Lol I absolutely loved it:) I also need to start a journal along with a binder as suggested.
I do drink lots and lots of water! i pee all day and half the night lol I didn't get mouth sores so I drink orange juice, water and V8. I'm assuming as chemo progresses it gets worst? I am so thankful for the responses.
From what I read ILC doesn't respond too well to preoperative chemo, but I try to stay optimistic. I was also told by a few women I needed to consider removing my ovaries too after my double mastectomy. What scares me also is after my last chemo treatment they want to do my double mastectomy with reconstruction 3 weeks after. I would think I'd be too weak after all this for surgery? Ugh, I'm overwhelmed:/ I was given a phone number today to be connected to someone similar to me. I need to try that also. Thanks again ladies.... -
Cris, I can't imagine what it must be like to be on your own with 4 kids. RESPECT! Do reach out to see if you can get friends to help or hire some help even. I found that it really was easier to have others clean, for example.
As for shrinking the tumor, you are less likely to have complete response in ILC, but mine shrunk from somewhere over 5CM down to a few milimeters.
Tell the onc nurse about the heart palpitations. In general, do not be afraid to give them a call.
The surgery. You do not need to do the recon right away. My surgeon actually asked me to wait a few years, and at the time I felt quite freaked out about it, but now I am so happy I had the extra time to think, investigate and also just experience what it is like to be boob-less. There are so many options for recon, so even if you go ahead with the immediate recon, I would urge you to visit the recon forum and get a sense of all the options.
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Thank you Momine for your insight, being so new to this sight I didn't realize they have so many different topic forums. when I started this topic, I was honestly in a panic. I've gotten better in the last couple of days coping. I actually went back to the gym and got my ass out of the bed. I was literally becoming obsessed with ILC. I have to realize that I need to keep postive and know that God won't leave my side no matter what my outcome. My breast have caused me so much heartache It wouldn't bother me to be boob-less. Only reason I considered reconstruction is because my husbands ins. covers it.
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Chris I know the feeling of feeling that your the only one who has ILC. I have learned though that everyone is different, even if we all had the same cancer we would have different stories. I wish sometimes too I had another friend that had ILC. But I do know that I am not alone, cancer is cancer and even the options as far as treatments differ.
So for now try to see if you can find a Breast Cancer support group- mine has helped me tremendously with things I never ever thought I would face.
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Cris--if you are managing this well after your first chemo...to the gym and all...I bet you'll be fine for the surgery 3 weeks after chemo ends. For me, the first chemo was the worst. I listened to my doctor and did not take the nausea meds until the nausea started. After I learned from experience how I needed to take them, the subsequent treatments were better. I started to feel just fine at two weeks after final chemo going forward.
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"I listened to my doctor and did not take the nausea meds until the nausea started."
That is the opposite of what mine told me. She gave me a strict schedule of 3 different anti-emetics to take for several days after the chemo, and they also gave me emend during chemo. Her idea was to avoid having any nausea start at all. It worked.
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Good thoughts sent your way!
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Re nausea meds: they give you anti-nausea meds in your infusion--and I was told not to take any extra until at least the next day, since I already had a hefty dose from infusion day. That was what one nurse told me. A doctor told me to take them as I needed them with no specifics about waiting till the next day. Go figure--conflicting info!
At any rate, the Zofran didn't work so well, by mouth or infusion. I finally asked for an rx for promethazine (I found a few tablets in my med cabinet left over from a previous surgery--took them and htey worked better than the Zofran), and used that drug till the end of AC tx. It worked about the best, but for me, nothing completely took away the nausea--it had to subside on its own, 3-4 days after each tx.
Taxol did not make me sick at all. I got back my appetite quickly.
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Cris,
So sorry for your diagnosis! I am 42 and recently diagnosed with ILC. Unfortunately, MRI found additional spot in same breast. My surgery is tomorrow (the waiting has been terrible) and I have been nonstop going over everything in head. I did not have chemo first and will not know my treatment until the pathology comes back from surgery. Praying for a quick recovery for you and everyone esle!
JJ
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