Chemo May 2013
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Shimmy, I have been waiting for 2 months to start chemo also, June 5 is my D-Day. That is very scary for you. I have just said a prayer that all is okay. But I have had aches and pains in my cancer breast and each little ache is a worry. I so hope that all is well for you.
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Hello Ladies!
I've been underground for the last week as I've had to soldier through and work everyday. I wanted to relate my experience with my first round of chemo. I started on 5/9 and had no trouble at all with the infusions, got comfortable under warm bankets and watched movies on my computer. Nurses were great.
The next 3 days I had very few SE's except for some indigestion and trouble sleeping from the steroids. I ate lots of prunes, took a stool softener and had no trouble with constipation. Got Neulesta shot, no pain from that. Found I was eating A LOT! Overall did really well and thought...I've got this! Then days 4 and 5 hit. I woke up feeling tired and spacey...my brain felt "buzzed" By this time I was off all meds. Physically I felt OK....have not been nauseous at all...but mentally had that "hit by a truck feeling" Almost like my brain had been removed, wrapped in cotton, and followed alongside my body! I had trouble thinking in a straight line....more like a drunken sailor. Unfortunately I do a lot of math calculations in my work so its been exhausting trying to get through the work day.
Days 6 and 7 I had diarrhea which was remedied by Immodium and I slowly began to get my thinking abilities back. Had blood work on day 8 which showed the neulesta shot working as my wbc was over 18,000! Nurse told me I was handling chemo really well...but I must say Days 4 through 8 were hard for me - kicked my butt. Not physically but mentally. Now I'm looking forward to having the next two weeks to feel normal , strong and like I have a brain in my head again! For the next round I'm going to take it easy on my bad days- now that I know which ones they are and what to expect.
I'm doing TC every 3 weeks for 6 rounds and heceptin every week for 4.5 months and then every 3 weeks for 6 months. No noticable SE's with Herceptin. I considered it the "golden elixir" as it is the targeted therapy for my HER2+ tumor. It searches out and destroys the HER2 cells so I love the stuff!
Still waiting for the hair to go....probably this week. Have a couple of hats and scarves but still havent found a wig....sigh. My teenage son is most freaked out by my looming bald head...wants me to ALAWYS wear a wig!
Have a wonderfull, calm enjoyable weekend sisters. To all with upcomming first chemos...you"ll do fine. Its a pain in the ass but doable. It will be behind us before you know it!
Annie
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Elkatho, I'm in the Herceptin trial for Her2 negative patients! It's because my initial staining was +2 or indeterminate. Fish test proved me negative but I can be considered Her2 "low". Apparently in the past they have thought patients that were her2 negative were positive and gave them Herceptin, later to find they were negative but they had less recurrance, hence the official study :-)
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sorry so many of us are dealing with ses. i'm starting to come off my steroid high and feeling funky. hope you're startimg to feel better Kate and lisa and Amy and worrywort and all the other ladies who aren't feeling great. It's nice to have somewhere to complain about these things since it's hard to just tell friends and family about all the aches and pains and possibly burn them out. thanks for listening everyone.
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Good to hear from everyone. My port is feeling much better and can move my neck without it killing me. I did use ice packs on my chest and neck the rest of the day after it was placed.
In chemo class they told us absolutley no suppositories and enemas because the skin gets so thin you are just asking for more problems than constipation. They suggested Senecot, Miralax and/or Milk of Magnesia.
For nails it was suggested to have some polish on to help keep the nail strong, only use a non acetone polish remover.
I am going with my daughter today to get some shopping done for things I will need. Lots of hand sanitizer, sensitive skin hand soap, body wash and facial cleanser. Some moisturizer with sunscreen in it too. We are also going to get some protein snacks. Eating every 2-2 1/2 hours isn't going to be easy neither is drinking 2 liters of liquids a day. But I guess it will all be worth it once all of this over.
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Annie, I am having a similar experience as I hit day 4. Feeling a little slow, but other than that, ok. Steroids kept me up a bit, but now I'm just on drugs to keep my plumbing going (ha!).
Teresa- glad to hear the port is going better. Seems like most people have more pain that the doctors tell them they will, but they assure us it will make the journey better in the long run. I am happy to say a lovely member of our site sent me some pictures post arm-port removal, and I feel a little better about it. What's one more (quick) surgery?
Kate - I'm thinking about you and hoping that each day gets better and better. Did you get through your gig?
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Thanks everyone for your support and advice.
Ipc, before my diagnosis, I had really long curly hair that had just been straightened with expensive brazillian blow out. So much for that. After my surgery, I had my hair cut in a short bob because I couldn't take care of it long. My oncologist told me to cut it even shorter so I got a pixie cut this week. I think I look pretty silly this way. I know I will still be upset when my hair goes but I know I would have been even more upset if I kept it long and lost it.
Day 2 after port placement is much less painful. Yesterday was not very fun.
I have been pouring through this thread for chemo advice. Main point seems to be, drink lots of water, take Claritin for Neulasta, take it easy, and steroids, while helpful make it difficult to sleep. I admire all of you for going through this and still trying to be helpful. Thank you. -
Hi Annie - you hit the nail on the head! I had chemo on 5/15 and was feeling overall pretty good! Today (day 4) was a little more achy and tired and you described it best. You feel like your head is in a fog! I am hopeful my body will be on the uphill starting tomorrow or Monday! Keep telling myself, I can, will and am doing this! Since it's the first cycle, it's hard to know what to expect, so now I know and that will allow me to prepare better for next time! Hope everyone else is hanging in there!!
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Slowly crawling back from the dead. I literally ate nothing in 48 hours. Gig was rough, have never felt so terrible in my life. Came home and dh hooked me up with a little medicinal "home grown"
and it was the first time that food actually seemed appealing so I ate a cheeseburger from McD. Was starting to feel a bit rough again so back to the garage for another "hit". Seems that does more for me than Ativan, zofran, and phenegren. Thank goodness for a dh in the music biz!! I'm hoping that tomorrow is another improvement. Btw - my head (hair) really hurts. I wonder if it will leave me sooner than I expected
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AryaS - You and I are going through this together. My port will go in on the 23rd, and I am starting my 1st of 4 rounds of A/C on the 28th and then followed by 4 rounds of the T. Going in every other week. I am a little nervous about it all. But after reading the advice on this thread I am fully prepared for any and all side effects. It will be spending this hot, AZ summer inside, mostly. I am looking toward the happiest holiday season ever. Good luck to you!
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Ukate,
My scalp hurt so bad on day 3 I freaked out... I could hardly wash my hair in the shower and it hurt to lay my head on my pillow that night.... It's tender now... I'm at day 10, but I'm only shedding a bit....
I am still achy in my upper body & back and super tired.... And feel really clumsy & stupid (like I'm drunk)... my brain cells are being attacked to? Hahahaha and I'm on day 9..... I thing the energy level is down cuz nothing tastes right and I'm not eating enough. Hubby took me to the beach today to get me out of the house (besides work) and ordered my favorite seafood dish.... Blahhhh! Waste of money! Haha I can't wait till I'm done and my taste comes back to order the biggest lobster & prime rib!
Hang in there everyone! I know that I appreciate this forum because others actually know what we're going thru.... It's hard to explain to family & friends... And I really don't want to sound like a whiner to them anyway....
Happy thoughts and hope all of you find some fun this weekend.... -
Well, the bone pain has set in. Have been taking Claritin everyday but I guess marrow is going super overdrive.
Think my tastebuds are going now too - rats. Sorry to complain, but it is nice to get it out of my system. -
Isn't it great when the hair falls out though? For a while mine didn't do anything and I wondered if I'd be a crazy case that kept my hair. But when it started to fall it made me think that there's the chemo working on rapidly dividing cells, just like the cancer it's killing...a GREAT thing! Go on chemo, work your magic!
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I think my taste buds are off a bit also. Pancakes did not taste good at all but the syrup and applesauce are ok. Yesterday when I was chewing a cracker my jaw bone hurt and I had to take by headband off my head as as it hurt. Nothing over the top.
My throat has been a little soar. No soars in my mouth or throat and I have been rinsing with baking soda and water. My cure all for many things is usually advil cold and sinus but I am not sure if I should take that while on claritin. My make the switch as my head is congested.
Have a nice day all. It is beautiful in WI. -
JennaJMU- Thanks for the reminder that the hair coming out is also a sign that the chemo is killing those nasty little cancer cells! I am having a pity party for myself this morning due to the fact that I now have one large completely bald patch on the right side on the back of my head! The buzz cut, I can deal with; but am having trouble with the "patchy" bald thing! My DH said you knew it was going to happen....blah blah...he did not help. Thanks for listening and thank God for this board!
Sounds like round 2 SE are a bit rougher. I hope everyone is feeling better soon!
Not looking forward to my round two on Thursday.
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Haven't checked in for a couple days. Last few have been awful! Had to call the doctor yesterday to get a different anti-nausea med as the compazine wasn't working. Trying Zofran now. Anyone have suggestions on how to make the nausea go away? I'm day 4 past my 1st Chemo treatment. Thanks! Hope everyone else is hanging in there
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Momofsam I just finished ranting at hubby how much I hate day 3 and 4! If history repeats itself I should be feeling better tomorrow and hope you will feel same. Such a rollercoaster we are on
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lpc - thanks! That's at least encouraging
I have felt so bad the last few days...even missed worked Thurs/Fri after Wed Chemo and for me to miss work, that says a lot!
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MomofSam,
I had read the compazine is not the most effective for the nausea. (These were opinions of fellow chemo patients). Almost all recommended the Zofran and there was one other, that I did not note.
I was prescribed the Zofran and the Compazine. I asked the chemo nurses as I was leaving the session which they thought I should start with.
"Definitely the Zofran".
They also told me it says every 8 hours on the bottle, but could go to 6 hours if needed, and if the nausea was so awful to go to every 4 hours BUT I MUST call AND I would probably get a bad headache. Please! Consider that this advice came from nurses, not a doctor. With that said my doctor prescribed the two antinausea meds but never went over them as far as which is better than the other etc!
the nurses also said to take the meds at the first sign of feeling "off". In my case I get a bad taste in my mouth when I think I might puke, so when that happened I tried waiting, and then decided it was not "worth it" to experiment and took the .zofran, it worked pretty quickly! I took it that way for about 3 days. Would pop one at bedtime, just to be safe. Never had to take closer than 8hours either. We are all different though.
Oh, and I am an eater by nature if I don't feel well....I gained A LOT of weight with each pregnancy, because each time I felt nauseous I would eat to make the feeling go away! Well, I gained weight my first week warding off nausea before I turned to the pills! if eating didn't work I turned to the meds.
I think I started the Zofran about day 4 and only took for 3 days? (Memory starting to blur! Lol)
Hope that makes sense. I'm sure some other people will have some insight too.
Pat -
Ps, they had said to start with the Zofran and I could add in the compazine if necessary...before the 8 hours were up. You might want to check that with your doctors if you feel you need to go that route.
Additionally, my oncologist office has someone "on call" to answer questions 24/7 (or so I was told). I think a lot of people can get some great advice here but need to keep in mind that they should reach out to their oncologist if there is a condition that is not correcting itself with the remedies being used or if any advice is questionable.
Pat -
Thanks Pattysmiles! Definitely called my doctor as that's who changed my Rx to Zofran. Appreciate the information. Feeling better today - still a bit nauseated, but not like Days 1-3 after Chemo so the Zofran must be working
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No problem Momofsam.
That statement was not meant for you specifically.
It was sort of a disclaimer for whoever reads the boards.
Our oncologist get paid the big bucks, they ought to earn their money!
I think a lot of us also feel funny complaining to the Dr. And think our complaints are "petty" compared to others, but the doctors need to be consulted with to keep them up on what is happening.
Just my opinion.
Pat -
For nausea I was told to take the steroid day before of and after chemo, zofran day of and next two days after chemo and if no nausea to stop, compazine for me was to be added as an "emergency" if the zofran didnt work. I never felt nauseas (spelt wrong I know) and by day 4 was off all meds.
Unfortunately for me I didnt get Neulasta and on day 9 my white blood count dropped and I was hospitalized with neutropenic fever, which was not fun. If that didnt happen I would have faired pretty well. Just that hazy head, achy body feeling for the first 6 days.
Hope everyone is feeling good and able to get past the side effects.
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Ok my May friends I am experiencing a bad sore throat, the expander which was not hurting before chemo started to hurt like hell, my eyes are very very dry and I have headache. In the afternoon after all these I just crash after 3 with bone pain and fatigue and muscle pain.This has been since 4 days ago that I had my first round of T/C.The only good day was the day of chemo. what else is coming? is 2nd round any better?
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Momofthreeswimmers...
My first treatment sounds similar to what you're going thru... Treatment day was 5/9 and today is the first day that I'm feeling like I will be able to endure the next one. Seriously, the pain in my joints and muscles were so bad that the leftover oxycodone from my surgery didn't touch it.... I felt like throwing in the towel and saying "no more! I'll just take my chances!"
Of course that's not an option! Haha
I'm fortunate that I have had NO nausea... A little queezy here and there, but it's usually because I'm hungry....
I have my first apt with the onc tomorrow since my treatment & hearing some of you talk about blood counts has me a little nervous.. We'll see!
I don't have a port and my vein from the first infusion is still biting me, but I only have 5 more to go & there is an end to it and I'll be able to say that I did all I could do to prevent a return of the nasty little "dweller" that took residence in my boob! LOL
Good luck to everyone this week & stay strong! Happy thoughts!
Lorrie -
Ipc....
Thoughts are with you as they are with all of you on this forum..... Never in a million years did I think I would be involved in something like this....
But I am & I'm so sorry for those of you with us here... BUT we are strong and "F" cancer! -
Regarding zofran and compazine, my Onc said to take the zofran for nausea but if I started vomitting to switch to the compazine.
I'm on day 10 now, and mostly feeling better. Taste is still a bit off, but the dry, sensitive, raw feeling in my mouth is getting better. New annoying thing is that Ive started to have some pain when I urinate. Went in to urgent care and they don't think it's an infection, but are doing a culture to be on the safe side.
And to offset that safe side, I'm going to be naughty and go to Disneyland tomorrow
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Have fun in Disney Land! Perhaps it'll take your mind off this crap.
So I'm 7 days post treatment and still feeling lousy. I've never felt this bad. I have sores in my mouth because I couldn't bear the taste of the salt water or mouthwash
I've lost about 7lbs as no food is appealing. I have acid burn and it's just been plain miserable. I emailed my doc and asked if I could skip the next 3 Chemo treatments and he said he would do everything in his power to make it not so bad for me. None of those nausea meds touch me at all - the only relief I get is sleeping. Smoking a little MJ helps a bit but leaves my mouth even more dry. Ughh....I was really hoping I would be one of those to breeze through this. I haven't been to work since last Wednesday and that was just for half a day. I have so much stuff to do for the Bat Mitzvah but I can't lift myself out of bed to get it done. F**K chemo!
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Ukkate - Hang in there. It will get better. My first round kicked my butt and landed me in the E.R. twice. I realized it was the Neulasta injection so I opted to try Neupogen instead and haven't had any real see effects from it. Your MO will do everything possible so you're not miserable next round. Everyone reacts differently so they need to adjust accordingly. You can do. Kick cancers ass to the curb.
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Oh Kate I am so sorry you are feeling so bad still. I had my 2 bad days and now must go off to work. Not quite back to normal but will do best to get thru 8 hours today. First day with wig at work has me feeling quite anxious....just cried a river to my daughter! Seems small potatoes to what you are going thru. I sure hope that doctor finds something for you soon. You can do this!
Lisa
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