Chemo May 2013

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  • Teresa_G
    Teresa_G Member Posts: 259
    edited May 2013

    elkatho- I am doing 4 treatments at three week intervals.

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited May 2013

    Therese,

    I am so sorry you had such a difficult time. And yes, the bright side is yo have some time to adjust!

    I have heard those with ports are generally happier when it comes to chemo as it is easier in the veins. I hope in the end it was worth it.

    One more part of of the journey done with, don't look back, move on forward!

    Pat

  • shimmy
    shimmy Member Posts: 15
    edited May 2013

    Jenna: I will be doing bloodwork the day before, which is nice since I'll have some notice if I have to put my treatment off. I had scheduled my Onc visit for the same day as my labs for my second infusion, but then I noticed that they went a head and scheduled all my other dr. visits for the day before the labs. So now I have to come in three days in a row. Thank goodness it's barely a 10 minute drive, or I'd be a bit tweaked at that.

    Elka: I'm doing 6 infusions as well. When I first discussed Chemo with my Onc he had mentioned the possibility of doing only 4, but that seemed to go out the window pretty quickly. I don't know if it was because I was so against doing Chemo at all at first, or that my oncotype came back high (34), or that the drug trial he had suggested for me was based on T/C with 6 infusions, which, btw, I ended up in the control group. I would have got Herceptin as well if I had been in the other arm, even though I'm HER2 neg.

    I have it in the back of my mind that if the chemo becomes too difficult as it goes on, I'm going to readdress the 4 vs. 6 treatments with my doc and see exactly why he changed his tune. If it was just a matter of being in trial, well to hell with that. I'm not getting the extra drug to make it worthwhile for me to stay in the trial, so why should I suffer? For now though, I'm doing ok so I'll just carry on with the current plan. :)

    Oceanwarrior: So sorry you're joing our little "club", but welcome nonetheless. There's definitely a lot of info here! I think I got overloaded on it before my first infusion, but still, too much info is better than not enough. :)

  • Worrywart9390
    Worrywart9390 Member Posts: 101
    edited May 2013

    so Sorry Theresa, I dont have a point but I feel your pain, eeeek!!   Hope things get better.

    I'm on TC 4 times , not sure why

    Sorry for those having bad symptons fromthe chemo, i had my first treatment last tuesday and i was doing pretty good until wednesday.  I didnt sleep well tuesday night and went to work anyway wednesday, stayed a little more than an hour I reall wasn't feeling well.  When I got home and got out of the car, I caught a chill, sure enough and hour later fever started. 

    Wound up in the hospital till this morning, just got home a little while ago.  My white blood count dropped to .4 and I had a neutropenic fever.  They filled me with antibiotics and gave me 2 neuprogen shots, today my count was 6.4  and they released me.  I went to a closer hospital to me and had to keep my oncologist informed = she ensured me I would get neulasta next time and this would never happen again.  I do have to say, it was pretty depressing being in the hospital.

    Anyway, hope everyone is doing better.

  • Worrywart9390
    Worrywart9390 Member Posts: 101
    edited May 2013

    port**** theresa

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited May 2013

    UKKate,  Lemonade, pickles, extra sea salt on things, watermelon, cantelope.  When I wasn't very hungry but knew I needed to eat something, ritz crackers, campbell's chicken and rice soup, watermelon.  I lived on pickles during the AC chemo treatments.  I also mixed up the lemonade with regular water, some form of orange juice (orange, strawberry, banana, tangerine, peach), cream soda, root beer floats.  

    I was a big iced coffee drinker before chemo, and now I might have one once a week.  Lemonade is my favorite.  Sometimes I even put some raspberry syrup in it (you can find it with coffee in some supermarkets)

  • elkatho
    elkatho Member Posts: 159
    edited May 2013

    Teresa...so sorry to hear about your port placement. I had mine on the right side but they did mention the left side was more difficult.Regardless it is not fair you had to go thru that. Hopefully during chemo the benefits of having it will help you forget the placement. I had mine placed the day before so they put the needle in during placement. One less poke.



    Thanks to all the T/C ladies for sharing your chemo schedule ..... I have something to think about. I had a mammaprint which comes back as high low...but I seem to remember 30% mentioned also.

  • mcgis
    mcgis Member Posts: 291
    edited May 2013

    Can someone fill me in on the fingernail/toenail situation? What might happen? How can I avoid it or help make it a minimal impact... Thanks!!

  • momofthreeswimmers
    momofthreeswimmers Member Posts: 17
    edited May 2013

    I started chemo on May 15th Although I am taking colace(stool softener) and Miralax constipation started today what to do?

    I had to go to ER once when I had mastectomy becuase of constipation it was worst than mastectomy! otherwise feeling good,Nulesta shot makes my back hurt but not anymore than that. It was better than I expected.

    Help!Smile

  • momofthreeswimmers
    momofthreeswimmers Member Posts: 17
    edited May 2013

    my MO suggested ice packs

  • momofthreeswimmers
    momofthreeswimmers Member Posts: 17
    edited May 2013

    mcgis

    my MO said I need to use an ice pack on nails which I did for the first round. But its not FDA approved.

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited May 2013

    Mcgis,

    I brought my own cooler bag and had three bags of dozen veggies and three bags of ice. I wasn't sure how I would work it til I was there.

    I was in a recliner, foot rest up, my feet on the pillow, flat bottom of feet touching each other. I stck one bag of veggies between my toes and one bag on veggies on either side of my toes, so the toes were pretty much cold on the top and bottom.

    I did similar for my hands. Grasped the bag of ice and laid my fingers onto the ice cubes, which were in their plastic bags, but definitely put a towel under them...as my bags leaked.

    The above is to avoid the chance of neuropathy.



    Also chewed ice, sucked on an icee I had brought with me. (This is to try and avoid mouth sores)

    All of the above is during the Taxotere drip.



    Momofthree: I had read drink some warm prune juice, or eat a jar of baby food prunes.

    Another option would be to consider a suppository, or possibly an enema.

    Sorry you are stuck. This too shall pass! Hopefully sooner than later.



    Pat



  • elkatho
    elkatho Member Posts: 159
    edited May 2013

    Nails. A nurse told me to keep them moisturizer. I read on another thread to keep them polished with nail strengther. However I worry about polish remover which may dry them out.

  • jsrose14
    jsrose14 Member Posts: 117
    edited May 2013

    Mom of three- I have the same issue with constipation. I am taking colace, miralax and milk of magnesia and still nothing. I am also trying to drink warm prune juice and pear juice. Also my acupuncturist said warm water with lemon helps. I had my second infusion yesterday and hoping it goes better than the first round but so far nothing today! I will give it one more day than call my dr bc last time was horrendous and I almost went to the ER as well.



    Btw my dr said not to use suppository or enema so please ask before you do!



    Good luck to both of us!

    Jsrose

  • AmyJax
    AmyJax Member Posts: 43
    edited May 2013

    Teresa - my port hurt so bad when I had it put in on Monday that I was crying and I took two percoset. It is much better now four days later. Just wanted you to know it does get much better.

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited May 2013

    Theresa place icepack on port really did help. Did they prescribe emla cream to put on it before going for chemo? I don't feel a thing when they access the port.



    Worrywart so sorry you ended up in the hospital. I get neulasta and hopefully that will work better for you.



    Kate hope you are feeling better. Please let us know.



    As for me I had neulasta shot and fluids today. Had much energy this morning then just crashed at 3. Guess tomorrow day 3 will be a wasted day.

    I had to add magnesium oxide to my regimen due to last blood count and that helped my constipation too. I eat regular yogurt n

    but maybe activia would help?

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited May 2013

    Theresa place icepack on port really did help. Did they prescribe emla cream to put on it before going for chemo? I don't feel a thing when they access the port.



    Worrywart so sorry you ended up in the hospital. I get neulasta and hopefully that will work better for you.



    Kate hope you are feeling better. Please let us know.



    Welcome ocean warrior.



    As for me I had neulasta shot and fluids today. Had much energy this morning then just crashed at 3. Guess tomorrow day 3 will be a wasted day.

    I had to add magnesium oxide to my regimen due to last blood count and that helped my constipation too. I eat regular yogurt n

    but maybe activia would help?

  • Debwarrior
    Debwarrior Member Posts: 72
    edited May 2013

    kate,



    are you feeling any better. I'm thinking of you. I bet your nurses or doc would want you to call them based on how you're feeling. They may want to hydrate you. I felt pretty bad on my 2nd, 3rd and 4th day and then better on 5th and 6th days, but not nearly as bad as you're describing. You really sound like you might be dehydrated. Hope you can get some relief soon.

  • Chrisesta67
    Chrisesta67 Member Posts: 46
    edited May 2013

    Hi, Everyone. I had my chest port placed yesterday and I'm preparing to begin chemo on May 23. I'm very nervous, to say the least. By happenstance, I met a terrific young woman and her family while sitting in a small waiting room at my port placement procedure. When she overheard me sigh to my mother that I hoped the stress of having the port placed would be worth it. She chimed in with a very positive message of reassurance and support. I found out that she's in her early 30s and had to endure a year and a half of chemo. Having a port from which all infusions and blood draws culd be taken eased her anxiety about needles considerably. Hearing about extensive chemo schedule has left me feeling a little silly about fretting over my planned 12 weeks of four TC infusions. With an optimistic attitude, healthly eating and resting habits, and the support of so many wonderful members of the Mass General Cancer Center health care team, I'm sure I'll be fine. Mostly what I find so intriguing at this point in my treatment prcess is how I'll be able to use the knowledge and experience gained now to help and reassure others with similar diagnoses someday.



    I'm reading a compelling book on the ecological and psychological elements of healing after environmentally invasive tragedy (Hiroshima Forever, The Ecology of Mourning by Michael Perlman). One of the primary themes of the story explores how deliberate awareness and support of others can sustain the healing process for communities and individuals much more effectively than a view that's restricted only to the self.



    I feel that this online discussion and resource sharing forum goes a long way toward offering a "community of practice" venue where those of us affected by breast cancer can deepen our understanding of treatment issues and available resources through reaching outward to tell our stories and, in so doing, offering support and the benefits of a broader knowledge base to each other.

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited May 2013

    Elkatho,

    I'm doing 6 T/C .... I wasn't even talked to about doing 4.. Hmmm something to ask about when I go in on Monday to talk to my onc about how my first treatment is going. Haha I'm sure he looks forward to the "visit after first treatment" appointments!



    Not sure about anyone else, but it seems like my surgery from the lumpectomy slowed down it's healing since my first chemo. I had it 2 weeks post op and was progressing well, but hasn't seemed to be healing much since, in terms of soreness...



    Energy sucks still, but the aches have pretty much subsided... In fact, this morning, there were a few minutes when I forgot what was going on wit my body.... A few minutes! :)



    Hopefully on the upswing from #1.... And will have a few normal days before #2...



    Hang in there, all! Happy thoughts!

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited May 2013

    Ipc..

    Thanks!

    Better today... I think I was just frustrated! Haha

    Hope the next few days go well for you...

    Funny... Day 3 after my first chemo was when it hit me first... The first couple days I joked with my husband ... Told him that they forgot to put the meds in, cuz I was feeling pretty normal...



    Take care everyone!





  • Debwarrior
    Debwarrior Member Posts: 72
    edited May 2013

    Well here's a new one. I put the Emla cream on my port for the first time yesterday for my second chemo. Last week they put in the port and did the chemo the same day so didn't need the cream. Anyway the area covered by the cream started burning right away. When I got to the hospital for my blood draw I asked them if it was supposed to burn and it turns out that my skin was all bubbled up red and blistered- yuck. Turns out I' m allergic to the cream. You would all probably be smarter than me and take it off if it burns. I haven't heard of this happening to anyone else so it's probably unusual. It seems like chemo has so many unusual joys. So sorry to those of you feeling crappy. I'm on my steroid high but expecting it to wear off by tomorrow. Starting to figure out that day after chemo is ok as is two days before, so 3 out of 7 days are ok, so far. Hanging in there. Hope others feel better soon. I'm thinking of all those cancer cells dying and everyone healing themselves. I'm watching superhero movies with the family. They say they are my fantastic four. They are.

  • AryaS
    AryaS Member Posts: 131
    edited May 2013

    Hi

    I had my chemo teach on Tuesday and my mediport placed yesterday. It was not the funnest thing I've ever done but not the worst either.

    I start chemo on 5/28. The day after Memorial Day, 4 rounds of AC every 2 weeks and then 4 rounds of Taxol also every two weeks. I am set to finish the day after Labor day so that's how I'm spending my summer.

    I am pretty scared. When the nurse took us through the room, my husband thought it looked nice and was feeling good about it all and then he turned around and saw me crying.

    I know this is what I need to do to have the best chance but I am scared.

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited May 2013

    AryaS



    I'm sorry.... It is okay to be scared.... But.... It really helps to talk about it with others in a forum like this that are going thru it, I promise! It's helped me and I'm not the type to ask/need help....



    Aside from the physical junk that we have to go thru, it's the emotional junk that makes it worse!



    There are several women going thru this with you (unfortunately).... I have found that everyone's experiences are slightly different, yet, similar at the same time.



    Try to relax... (I know! It's not easy) .... And think of the goal... GOODBYE Cancer!



    Happy thoughts!

  • shimmy
    shimmy Member Posts: 15
    edited May 2013

    ItIsWhatItIs: Oh definitely chemo can effect healing. I was under the impression most people start around a month after surgery, mine was delayed and it was over 2 months before I started chemo. I'm surprised to hear you only had two weeks.

    So, today I had an appointment for an ultrasound on another questionable spot in my naughty right breast that came up in an MRI I had just prior to my lumpectomy. Because we didn't get the results until just a couple of days before my surgery, and because the surgeon felt that it most likely nothing, we decided to "ignore" it rather than postpone the surgery to do further testing and revisit it after chemo/rads. Well, my Onc didn't agree. He insisted I get an ultrasound now. Of course, things being what they are with scheduling "now" meant I didn't even get the call to make the appointment until after I had my first infusion.

    I was dreading this because I just knew they wouldn't leave well enough alone, and sure enough, I ended up having to get a biopsy. Last thing I wanted was another invasive procedure, especially now that I've started chemo with my risk of infection greater than ever.

    I can understand getting the ultrasound and establishing a baseline image so that it can be compared to whatever it looks like after chemo, but I just don't see the point of the biopsy at this stage. Nothing is going to change if it's cancerous, at least not until after chemo, so I don't know why we couldn't wait until after chemo to do a biopsy.

    So now I'm annoyed, my boob hurts, and I get to be all stressed out waiting for test results yet AGAIN. I hate Friday tests! Why are my tests always on Friday?! </rant>

  • Delvzy
    Delvzy Member Posts: 527
    edited May 2013

    Hi guys just thought I would drop in from aust and say g'day . I am nearly 5 years out and chemo was not as bad as I imagined . I had 6 rounds 3 weeks apart and the worst thing was feeling like the chemicals rushing through my body at night. I used to have a warm bath and take a sleeping tablet. I tried to work but it was too hard as I kept getting infections from people I work with .The day I went to my first chemo session I had to go to a mass at my sons first day at school. The lady I sat next to was the nurse who did my chemo an hour later I had never met her and our sons became good friends. God works in mysterious ways ! My hair started falling out after session 3 so I had a wig that looked a bit like my own hair in rediness I never really felt sick just a bit tired so I planned a nice lunch after each session then home to meditate and rest. Gooduck with it all ladies I have long hair again and my life back Delvzy Australia

    dx 8/9/2008 2 IDC tumours 10mm apart 1 /14 nodes grade 3 bi-material mastectomy 14 nodes cleared 6 rounds of chemo no radiation.
  • elkatho
    elkatho Member Posts: 159
    edited May 2013

    Ayras....I wish you did not have to join us but I am glad to meet you and you have come to the right place. These ladies are champs, warriors and most importantly compassionate. Please give yourself some time to relax and take it easy. Have family and friends help you with anything they can. It helps you both physically and emotionally. Plus its helps those that love you help you.



    Shimmy...so sorry you are going through this waiting period. I agree NO tests on Friday. I am keeping my fingers crossed for you. Thanks for sharing info about your trial. My MO mentioned to me that their were trials with herceptin with pts that are her2 negative. My tumor was tested multiple times to determine her2 status. Finally determined negative. I am going to try and get more answers why some woman have 4 and others 6 cycles.

  • Ukkate
    Ukkate Member Posts: 292
    edited May 2013

    Hey Guys,

    This has been wretched :(  I literally have slept 2 days because it's the only way I can bear to get through the hours.  I can't stomach anything although I have managed to get down 4 frozen popsicles.  I have been taking imodium to control the diahreah.  But I have heart burn and basically everything burns the back of my throat.  I'm pretty sure I have mouth sores too now because I haven't been able to do the mouthwash.  Dr says he will adjust my meds for the next go around so I don't have to feel like this again.

    Also, my "hair" really hurts but it's not coming out yet.  Ughh - it's just an all over feeiling of crappiness. Kinda like the first trimester of pregnancy but worse.  I"m up today as I have a DJ gig this afternoon and I'm hoping I can pull some adrenalyn out of my butt to get myself through it.  I guess if I don't get a decent amount of liquid down today I'll call the doc and see about going in :(

    Sorry for the pity party...

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited May 2013

    Kate sooo glad to hear from you. Was getting worried. Amazing how fast we bond on these boards! Hope you make it through your gig ok then rest and take care of yourself! Can you do the salt water rinse for your mouth yet? My mo gave me script for protonix for heartburn. It has worked wonders!



    AryaS I am on same chemo regimen as you. Just did second round on Thursday. Day 3 seems to be my worst. Mostly just too tired to do anything. If they give you neulasta be sure to take claritin for the bone pain. Allergy season here so I take it every day not sure how others take it but it does work. My hair started falling out on day 12 just like clockwork. Was so worked up over it but even that was not as horrid as the anticipation of it! I went to peak in the infusion room a few days before chemo started and cried as soon as I walked in. Receptionist grabbed me hugged me and now she calls me her crybaby. Even though no more tears. A more compassionate group of people I have never met.



    Ouch debwarrior I am so sorry about the emla! I would have ignored the burning thinking it meant it was working!



    Shimmy I agree Friday tests suck! They really shouldn't do that to anyone. So unfair to have to wait thru weekend with no answers. Hope you can relax.



    Delvzy it is good to hear from someone who is over and done with chemo. Thanks for checking in with us!



    Lisa





  • elkatho
    elkatho Member Posts: 159
    edited May 2013

    Ukkate. So glad to hear from you. Take care.

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