Chemo May 2013

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  • debbiema
    debbiema Member Posts: 34
    edited May 2013

    Hi all!  I"m starting on 5/15 too.  Getting very anxious.  So today, starting the steriod, took a prilosec and will think about taking the claritin later!  Just trying to keep all this in order!  Trying to be proactive instead of reactive!  Also started the eyebrow/eyelash gel someone recommended (Brian Joseph) so we'll see how that works.  Since I can't save the hair on my head, I'll certainly try to save my eyebrows and eyelashes!!  Stay strong ladies.  You are all so amazing!

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited May 2013

    LJaeger,

    Waving to you from Yorktown hts!



    We are somewhat similar in the lack of remembering things. I already have a spotty memory for different things. I have NOT noticed any changes in my memory. However I have only had one treatment and it is not the same type of chemo as yours. You never know! I was actually thinking maybe it would reverse my memory problem? Lol



    As for the water. DRINK something, anything! And LOTS of it. Use crystal light,or iced tea flavorings....anything!



    During treatment I kept drinking from little bottles of their bottled water. When they started the taxotere I had my 7-11 cherry icee, (which I know some might not like seeing if getting the "red devil" chemo, I had hubby out it into a opague cup.



    Yes, had to get up and use the bathroom a few times, the nurses were fine with that. Make sure to go before they start a new bag of junk, because they want to monitor you for a while to make sure no negative reactions. My nurses said they always tell when changing bags, I told them I just needed those extra minutes to go to the bathroom so factor that in, and they did.

    When I came home I had the giant Poland spring bottle of water right next to my armchair and just kept refilling and drinking.



    I hit the grocery store and purchased some flavored waters (wasn't happy to see Splenda in them, I'm not a fan of that) and drank those too In order to change it up.



    I'm not much of a water drinker, but I think it has really helped me. My first treatment was on May 6....I did the most water the first 2-3 days. Now I have to remind myself to drink more water. I am off the nausea meds. the only thing I am taking is the Prilosec and Claritan. Prilosec because it says it is a 14day cycle on the package, so I figure why not. Claritan to deal with the Neulasta...I figure 2-3 more days of that "to be sure".



    As for the skin problems,I'm not having that bad acne , or any noticeable change yet. My skin has always been spotty though. I will say that I feel like my skin is SOFTER than ever.



    Pat

  • Rose57
    Rose57 Member Posts: 11
    edited May 2013

    Hi Gully

    No problems with the scalp!  I was so excited when I woke up today with hair as it has been 14 days (not very optimistic that it will stay)!!!!

    I have had the taxotere rash which benydry was helping but over the weekend the itching was horrible so went to the doc yesterday and they put me back on steroids which has really helped!  But the moral to my whining is be really careful of the sun as the itching was mainly areas exposed to the sun!  So at first I thought no garden this summer but have decided to become a moon gardner!!!!

    Hope you all have a great day!

    Rose

  • Rose57
    Rose57 Member Posts: 11
    edited May 2013

    Hi Teresa,

    I will also be doing radiation three weeks after finishing chemo! The radiation oncologist wants to do full external beam but I have talked to people at the Gamma West Radiation (in Salt Lake) that have had really good luck with the Brachytherapy.  Have started considering going to Salt Lake for that treatment but will see!

    Good luck,

    Rose

  • LJaeger
    LJaeger Member Posts: 58
    edited May 2013

    Hi Pat! I'm playing a "how many cups of water can I make it through today?" game at work this moment. One down, two sitting on my desk. My nurse (at my first 'chemo class' day or whatnot) said that at least half my 64oz intake should just be water. Then she said add crystal light (I too hate all those fake sugars) or eat popsicles, have soup, etc. My favorite suggestion was have ice cream (!). We have this amazing ice cream shop in town that makes delicious stuff in house - all natural and local products, no fake additives, etc. I am a big fan, and I think I'm going to try to convince the oncology staff to write me out a fake script for ice cream 2x/week! Best prescription I could ever imagine.

    I asked the nurse about pre-treating before my chemo tomorrow, and she said only to pretreat with the colace - just to bring in all my meds with me. They do the blood count right before the chemo, so if levels are wonky (since it's my first treatment tomorrow, they shouldn't be!) they don't want me wasting my Emend or other medications.

    Teresa and Rose - I am also a radiated-woman-to-be. I'll get my exchange surgery 3 weeks after chemo is over, and then radiation started 3 weeks after that. Perhaps we'll all in be another thread together in a few months...

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited May 2013

    Ljaeger, which ice cream shop...I just might "happen" to be in croton and give it a try. :)



    Ice cream as a liquid? Lol. I never would have thought of that.

    I think I have been through McDonalds drive thru for chocolate shakes day 3-6 of chemo...my ONLY Time out of the house on Day 4 was to McDonalds as it was my sons birthday and I had NO energy to go out to dinner (other son had swim class anyway, so also had time constraints) and birthday boy likes McDonalds, so that's what he had. I NEVER get a double cheeseburger (or cheese) and I had one,it was very tasty considering taste was off. Anyhow, the chocolate shake was cold enough to sooth throat (minor irritation), I needed the sucking through a straw thing, and it also tasted good, so a WIN all around. I think I will be spending a lot of time at the gym to make up of all the junk I ate this week. (And I am NOT a gym rat)



    Now if you have read this go drink another water! :)

    Pat

  • okiecountrygal
    okiecountrygal Member Posts: 25
    edited May 2013

    I have an awful case of nerves today thinking about my first treatment tomorrow.  I keep reading all the posts where you ladies have all said that it wasn't anything as bad a you thought it would be which gives me hope.  But, I'm a worry wart.  Just taking the steroid this morning made me feel sick.  I told my husband if just taking the measly steroid makes me sick, how am I going to handle the hard stuff?  Still feel like this is all a bad dream.  And why is it that I can be so positive for everyone else but when it comes to me I'm the worst pessimist around?  Just feeling a little overwhelmed today and I guess you could say scared. I got to snap out of it!

    I'm also nervous about them accessing my port for the first time.  It's still a little touchy but not bad.  I hope that goes smoothly as well.  I'm so thankful that I have a very supportive DH and family/friends that have been so wonderful to offer to go with me to treatments, etc.  Luckily my husband (who never gets sick) has enough sick leave to go with me quite a bit and they allow him to use his sick leave for that. And I'm thankful for you ladies being here to listen. I can share my fears with you so that I can keep on the brave face for my family.

    I'll be thinking of everyone that is starting tomorrow with me.  Hope we all have a decent experience with minimal SE's.

    Now for me, CHIN UP AND BACK TO WORK!

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited May 2013

    Shelly, you will be fine.



    That darn steroid IS nasty. I had no idea it would leave such a nasty taste in my mouth!

    Where were the people to warn me about that! Lol...I've read all the other posts on how to avoid side effects, NOTHING about that darn little steroid pill being nasty!

    And I was VERY thirsty after taking it. The second time I had to take it I made sure I had something flavorful to wash it down, followed by some food that would knock the taste out of my mouth. See, there is a "solution" to most of these problems.



    I don't think there is ONE person who can say they weren't worried about going to sit in chemo, but I think I have heard ALMOST ALL say good things about it not being so bad.



    I didn't even have the port that all of you have had and I had no complaints (and I HATE needles!).



    You should be just fine, know how many of us have all been there, done that and soon you will look back and think "what was I so worried about" and YOU will be giving words of wisdom to the "newbies".



    Deep breathes, picture a nice calm picture like a beautiful tropical island (which I WILL book when all this crap is done) and if none of that works maybe talk to your doctor about taking something for anxiety.



    Wishing you all the best.

    Pat

  • LJaeger
    LJaeger Member Posts: 58
    edited May 2013

    Shelly,

    Did they give you a script for Ativan? If not, I would assume they will. They gave me an Rx for it, and in general I don't get anxious (I just read up on as much as possible..perhaps I'd call that neurotic?). I agree with Pat - envision something lovely, like a tropical island, deep breathing, etc. Before we know it the few hours will be over, and our first treatment will have been completed. I'm still amazed that I lost my breast almost 7 weeks ago - the time just flew. They say "new normal" which sounded like a crock to me, but here it is. And chemo "new normal" won't be the forever normal. 

    I feel like a walking advertisement for the ice cream shop I love in Croton, but am happy to spread the news. I want nothing but success for the owner of the place. It's called the Blue Pig. They have a website, but their facebook page is much more updated and has lovely drool worthy photos of ice cream and ice cream cakes, etc. I think they've even started making up healthy lunch items (quinoa, etc.) as they experimenting with more and more things to create. 

    3 cups of water down now, and some watermelon too (another suggestion by the nurse)...I feel like my teeth are floating (as my husband would say).

  • argynis
    argynis Member Posts: 123
    edited May 2013

    Did all of you loose your taste or did it change for you immediately after chemo? I am 7 days out and my taste still seems to be quite normal. Maybe having my mouth full of ice for 2 hours during chemo helped or will it happen after some more days?

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited May 2013

    LJaeger,

    Watermelon! Great idea! I just bought a whole one and cut it up. It tasted great throughout the first week. Cold, wet, soothing, yum!

    Just remember, breaking the seal the first time you use the bathroom leads to many more trips! Lol. Oh the joy!



    I was at the blue pig once, took the kids a couple of years ago...I don't think I got anything! Lol. What is wrong with me! I will have to make a point to try it. Any excuse for ice cream!



    I think I am going to look up some island paradise getaways...at this point I would settle for Jones Beach, but would prefer to go more tropic....and obviously not NOW, as I need to keep my 50 shades of PALE.

  • okiecountrygal
    okiecountrygal Member Posts: 25
    edited May 2013

    Thank you for the encouragement.  I do have a scrip for Xanax and was thinking I might need to take one in the morning before my appointment.  Or maybe today to keep from driving my DH crazy with my worry. lol  I'm feeling some better now.  The panic seems to come and go.  I'm sure things will be much better once I get this first treatment behind me.  It's the not knowing how it's gonna be that scares me the most. 

  • Ukkate
    Ukkate Member Posts: 292
    edited May 2013

    Shelly, I was in your shoes two days ago and now i"m one day post chemo.  I didn't get an ativan script either but when the pharmacist saw how nervous I was, he sugested a little dose and that was awesome! I was convinced that I was going to get the allergic reaction to the Taxo - so convinced, that I had him worried!!!

    I was also worried about them sticking into the port, but it was a TEENy little pin prick and then nothing else.  It was AWESOME to have full use of my arms during the treatment - whenever I get an IV in my vein, it hurts the whole time and I try to limit my arm use.

    I am eating a salad right now and it's all just starting to taste the same.  Can my taste buds be gone so quickly??  Waves of nausia, a sore throat and some pain in my legs, but nothing more than that.

  • AmyJax
    AmyJax Member Posts: 43
    edited May 2013

    Elkatho - I had to make my work announcement at the time of my surgery since I had a BMX and would be out on leave recovering. I work in a management position in a large company, and have been there a long time. I focused on making a short list of people that I wanted to or felt obligated to tell myself. Also, this gives you the chance to get the accurate facts out that you want/choose to share about your particular situation. I just told them to share the news as appropriate and that way it "got around."



    One thing to be prepared for is the requests for "what can I do to help?" People feel bad and while they can't do anything to help your cancer, they could start a meal train to bring you soup/meals three times a week, or take a grocery list, or go in together to hire a cleaning lady during your treatment, make a laundry visit, etc. It was hard for me to take the help but I learned to do it and it really make it easier for my husband to focus on me and/or for me to focus with what I'm dealing with......



    Good luck!

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited May 2013

    Wow so many posts to keep up with today! Good luck to everyone who starts tomorrow. I will be keeping you all in my thoughts.



    RE: tastebuds mine went wonky around day 7. Spicy and lemony foods seem to taste the best right now.



    I told my immediiate supervisors as soon as I knew I needed surgery and then no one else until the day before surgery. Mostly because work was my cancer free zone. My coping mechanism after diagnosis! Work is like 2nd home and everybody has been wonderful except for the incident yesterday. One very nice woman made me a shawl to take to chemo. It is my new security blanket.



    I am wondering if anyone who started May 2nd has started losing hair yet? I have not but have appt to get hair cut and wig fitted on Thursday. Now I am questioning my decision to do so.



    I just told dh that it is a shame chemo again on Thursday since I am feeling so good right now.



    Lisa

  • sebaroni
    sebaroni Member Posts: 59
    edited May 2013

    Good luck to all starting tomorrow. I have to say, overall drinking enough seems to be a common theme, here and when I was going through a weight loss program many years ago. I live in Arizona, this is one problem I am exempt from having. When you live in a desert, there is no problem drinking water or anything liquid for that matter. Most visitors to Phoenix just don't understand why we have a convenience store on every corner. But after a few days in our, sometimes 3% humidity, climate they always mention how they have never been thirstier in their lives. After living here for more than 30 years, having something to drink permanently by my side is a habit. 

  • Gully
    Gully Member Posts: 268
    edited May 2013

    Ok IPC that would be me! The lucky first one from the May 2nd group. Went to the gym today and worked up a good sweat, ran my hand through my hair (Short pixie) to get sweaty  bangs out of my eyes and when I looked down at it I had about 20 hairs in it! Guess this is the end of my hair! I have not had the guts to let my DH shave it yet. Maybe tomorrowSurprised

  • Gully
    Gully Member Posts: 268
    edited May 2013

    IPC- I see you do not get taxotere, I think its the culprit for me, they told me hair would be gone by day 14. Looks like I am right on schedule!...maybe you have longer with ACT. 

    I feel good now too!. Good luck with your next treatment Thursday, my next one is on May 23rd.

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited May 2013

    Soooooo.....I take shower and get handful of hair exageration maybe but felt like handful to me! Guess good I made appt. Still sad even though expected

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited May 2013

    Hi all....

    I've been lurking on a few forums to get a better grip on what to expect from my chemo experience & finally just decided to join :)

    I had my first of 6 T/C treatments on the 9th.... (Thursday). And felt perfectly fine until Saturday afternoon when I began feeling pain in my muscles and joints... It was much worse on Sunday with a painful scalp as well. I was able to work yesterday (barely) and today is much less painful... Just a bit tired. I haven't has any nausea! Whew! Haha



    It looks like I'm about a week ahead of some of your start dates, so if there are any questions on what to expect... I can offer what I'm going through..... I know that it has helped with some of the anxiety of this journey..... Good luck to everyone! :)

  • MomofSam
    MomofSam Member Posts: 74
    edited May 2013

    Took the advice of many and drank lots of water today!  Hopefully it helps with my first Chemo tomorrow. Smile  Anyone know if most people gain or lose weight with Chemo?  I've read both and just wondered what others have heard/experienced.  If gain, what's the thought for why?

  • MomofSam
    MomofSam Member Posts: 74
    edited May 2013

    Thanks!  My MO never mentioned anything about taking anything for constipation so good to know!

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited May 2013

    Momofsam I initially gained weight. Steroids make you hungry!!! Went back 1 week later and had lost weight. Once steroids wore off I wasn't so hungry.

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited May 2013

    MomofSam,

    Good for drinking all that water, keep it up the next few days.



    I had also read of weight loss due to feeling ill, loss of taste buds, etc.



    However, I don't think that had happened to me as of yet. If anything I had an increased hunger, I think steroid related...darn steroids! I also turned to McDonalds chocolate shakes to help me "feel better" as it was something that was NOT water. I also ate a few other unhealthy things along the first few days because I wanted to feel better (not that I felt that bad!). I ate my way through nausea when I was pregnant and never got sick but packed on the pounds.

    I did hit the gym twice the first week of chemo...I want to say day 3 and 6, and just went again today. (Day8). As of today I am recommitting to eating healthier and going to the gym. I am hoping all the yummy eating I have done will be a bit undone by the next chemo round.



    Btw, "hit the gym" for me meant 30 minutes on the elliptical-fairly easy mode-some weights-again low level and some stretching/core strengthening. I was just given my post surgical clearance when I started into chemo so I know I am not ready for my intense elliptical and "heavy" lifting. Better slow than none!

    Pat

  • MomofSam
    MomofSam Member Posts: 74
    edited May 2013

    Are the steroids given IV?  Or via Pill?  Not looking forward to steroids - have had too many of those in the last 2 years due to a sinus infection (caused weight gain that I haven't managed to get off yet due to having sinus surgery 1 week before my lumpectomy) that took 4 doctors later to figure out what was wrong with me!

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited May 2013

    Regarding constipation, my MO said the taxotere would cause diarrhea. I'm so glad I did NOT listen to her and listened to the women here!

    Lots of fluid, a stool softener at night, and in the evening (I only did one each time) and I think on Day 2 I started Miralax. Next time I will do Miralax the day before chemo and continue it until I am "normal". (Along with the stool softener) I stopped Miralax about Day6...I was not taking too many anti-nausea meds along the way so didn't need to continue. I am off the nausea meds and I think all is good in the land of bowels. Lol

    Pat

  • elkatho
    elkatho Member Posts: 159
    edited May 2013

    A God nights rest to all starting chemo treatment tomorrow. One step closer to besting this!

  • lpc
    lpc Member Posts: 303
    edited May 2013

    I take steroids night before and morning of treatment. Nausea meds are steroids too but I didn't need them. I find now I make myself eat to stay healthy. Yogurt fruit veggies. Of course after treatment Thursday it will be back to anything within reach! I am served bfast and lunch at treatment and eat every bit of it! Before bc never ate bfast. Lived on coffee.

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited May 2013

    Your doctor didn't write to give steroids ahead of time?

    For me, it was steroids twice a day the day before chemo, the day of chemo and the day after chemo. I don't think I had any in my IV. (I still panic that I have forgotten to take the steroids and "when is my next chemo I need to do labs!" -my labs are two days before chemo, some are day of.)

    I do believe others get them in the IV, don't know if they also take a pill?



    Don't know the rhyme or reason for it all.



    Did you get any prescriptions to pre-fill? Mine also wrote for anti-nausea meds...so I had them all labeled at home.

    Was glad I talked to the chemo nurses on chemo day to ask about the anti-nausea meds, this was MY biggest concern about chemo!

    the chemo nurses highly recommended the Zofran as opposed to the compazine I was prescribed. They even told me I could take the Zofran sooner than the every 8 hrs.

    I could do 6 hours and in a really bad time to do 4 hours but it could definitely cause a headache and I should be calling in if nausea was that bad that I had to take the same thing every 4 hours!

    Otherwise I could have switched between the Zofran and Compazine without an issue....turns out I only needed the Zofran, didn't really need it any closer than 8 hours and was able to get off it within 3 days.

    Anyhow, if they can write you prescriptions for anti-nausea meds have them do that. You should be fine day 1 and day 2 to fill them yourself...or have someone else go.



    Sorry this is lengthy...I know I like details! Lol

  • MomofSam
    MomofSam Member Posts: 74
    edited May 2013

    Thanks everyone.  Good luck to everyone else starting tomorrow with me!  Have a good night.

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