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  • Stupidboob
    Stupidboob Member Posts: 345
    edited May 2013

    I forgot to ask this but maybe it needs its own section.

    What kind of deodorant do you all use?   I have tried so many of the ones without the aluminum but they don't work.   For awhile I just said it is not worth stinking........but now that mine has returned and spread up the lymphs I am wanting to try to change again.  I have paid $8 for one and it still don't work.    I found one that semi worked but had its own smell.  

    I WILL NOT STINK........;)

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited May 2013

    jhj - going out for a walk every day helps tremendously with the side effects of chemo. I personally took acupuncture every week (and still do) - acupuncture helps boost the immune system and the bone marrow. I live in Vancouver, Canada - and I go to Inspire Health - it is an integrative cancer centre and offers all kinds of support for cancer patients. Google it and see what you think! Going through chemo is tough, but it is manageable - however, each of us has different side effects from the toxic drugs that we are given - some of us have bad s/e and some of us seem to get through it fine. Being on this comminity board is a great source of knowledge from women who have been there, are going through it, and some like myself who has just finished treatments. Which oncologist do you have? I will pray for you and your wife as you go through this very dark period of your life. Keep informed. Eat healthy, drink lots of water, rest when tired, moderate exercise are all good things.

  • placid44
    placid44 Member Posts: 497
    edited May 2013

    Jlh,



    I did not have nausea with AC. I had a hard time with it otherwise, mostly low white blood cell counts/infections, which should not affect your wife since it looks like she is not having dose-dense. I had AC every two weeks. I did not have a problem with taxol except some numbness in feet, (neuropathy).



    Below is the drug schedule I was given, in part to prevent nausea:



    During AC, my prescribed schedule was:

    Miralax the day before chemo

    Emend the day of chemo

    Aloxi and Decadron via port, with the chemo

    Emend, Decadron and Miralax in the two days after chemo  

    Compazine and Ativan to take as needed at home. I rarely needed them.



    During Taxol, my prescribed schedule was:

    Decadron and Miralax the day before chemo

    Decadron and Zofran the day of chemo

    Pepcid and Benadryl via port, with the chemo (these help prevent an allergic reaction)

    Miralax in the days after chemo

    Zofran, Compazine, and Ativan to take as needed at home

  • jhj0112
    jhj0112 Member Posts: 16
    edited May 2013

    Thanks everyone for the info!!  This thread really helps a newbie like me.. her bone scan is scheduled tomorrow even though CT and X-ray were done prior to AC chemo... I hope it's nothing.. once again thanks!!

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited May 2013

    Evening - I've been away for awhile, life you know!  Sending hugs to all of those experiencing reoccurances, cancer truely sucks.

  • 5thSib
    5thSib Member Posts: 141
    edited May 2013

    Wow, I had about 6 pages of posts to read. Hello to the old friends and the new. I am 4 weeks past my last Taxol treatment and starting to feel better -- even getting back to some light exercise. Just having a really hard time at work right now and having to work long hours that I don't need to be working. We had a server crash last Wednesday and have not been able to get it back up and our backup files are apparently not good. The last good backup we have is a month old. I'm the IT manager so even though someone else was in charge of the backups, ultimately I am responsible. I've worked a lot of OT in the past week.

    Someone mentioned about going to work with out their wig for the first time. I've been wearing hats and scarves, but decided to do that last Wednesday. My hair is just long enough to pinch between my fingertips. It is mostly white with some dark here and there. All the upper managers were out of town, so I decided to not wear anything on my head since it was mostly just women there that day. I got a lot of compliments. I decided to go on to church without the hat also (with the blessing of my two grandchildren who were with me) and got a lot more compliments. However, one 3 year old girl looked at me, ducked her head, covered her eyes, and said "yuck" so I decided maybe I should still cover my head at church. Actually I haven't gone to work again without my head covered either. I'll get up the nerve to do it with everyone there soon.

    I start radiation on Monday. The are doing a trial run tomorrow. I hope everyone has a great weekend.

  • Stupidboob
    Stupidboob Member Posts: 345
    edited May 2013

    Shirley don't let them bother you.........be comfortable.....:)

    My thoughts and prayers are with you...........glad you got the Taxol over with (that pain was bad for me) and good luck on the radiation.   I will be doing that soon too

  • Wrenwood47
    Wrenwood47 Member Posts: 73
    edited May 2013

    StupidBoob....regarding your deodorant issue. I stopped using any deodorant and began washing my underarms with Hibiclens while in the shower. It can be purchased in most drugstores or online. It kills bacteria which is what causes odor. After drying off, I appy coconut oil to my underarms...it also kills bacteria. So far, I have had no odor. Used it all last summer with much success. I still perspire but there is no odor. Hope this helps.

    And just a quick hello to Inmate....I have been hoping you would post to say hello, I think of you a lot. Your strength and determination is to be admired....all this and you still keep your sense of humor. Bravo. xxoxoxo 

  • Grammy98
    Grammy98 Member Posts: 16
    edited May 2013

    I have read a few comments recently about drinking lots of water.  I love water and drink little else normally besides my morning coffee (no juice, no pop, etc.).  However, during my chemo water tasted awful (as did any form of alcohol, wine, etc.)!  I absolutely could not drink it.  However, I did acquire a craving for chocolate milk and I was only able to stay hydrated with that.  I tried various other beverages, but all were either nauseating or just had a weird taste.  Choco milk was my friend.  I chugged it!  In fact, I would panic if my supply of milk and Nestle Quick got low (kind of reminded me of my way back in the day pregnancy cravings for grapefruit juice, but that's another story!).  I remember one day one of my sweet co-workers ran out to buy some chocolate milk for me because I ran out of choco milk at work and I was sooo thirsty!  I normally do not have a sweet tooth at all, but blandish sweet things worked for me during chemo - vanilla pudding, vanilla ice cream, cream of wheat, oatmeal; also mashed potatoes, ramen, and pasta.  Anything "whitish" was very tasty!

    Pizza tasted like metal, and generally anything with tomato sauce was nasty.

    Everyone is different, but I wanted to share what worked for me with those of you going through this now.

    I'll be off the boards for a few weeks, going on vacation to California.  We'll be visiting our son who just got out of his 4 year stint in the Marine Corps and attending his wife's graduation from law school.  Also, sadly, visiting my sister in law in San Diego who was diagnosed in March with stage 3 ovarian cancer.  My mom died of ovarian cancer in 1993 and it seems like there has not been much progress with this disease.  As awful as TN BC is, I feel so fortunate that so much progress has occurred with our treatments.

    Sorry to be so verbose.  I assume if too long or you're not interested you have not gotten this far Smile

  • Grammy98
    Grammy98 Member Posts: 16
    edited May 2013

    One advantage of getting BC when post-menopausal is that deodorant is not a necessity!

  • schatzi14
    schatzi14 Member Posts: 1,647
    edited May 2013

    Grammy...I found that true as well! Rarely wear it now.

  • Tazzy
    Tazzy Member Posts: 2,546
    edited May 2013

    jenjen... love you got shitfaced....and had a blast... you rock my girl.

    Outlaws here - for a fucking months.... but they are lovely,..... but they are still in my place.   Whatever.  time for me and bed.

    Love you ladies. xxxxxxxxx

  • Lauralind5
    Lauralind5 Member Posts: 220
    edited May 2013

    5thsib Im so sorry ! Im sure that was hard :(

    Tazzy, I understand ! One of my friends who lives wayy far away wants to come "help" me, but since shes so far she will have to stay for a good long time. Anddd Im feeling that I wont want her here that long lol

    Regarding deoderant, is there something I dont know? is this an issue?

    This is my last prechemo weekend. Am going out tonight to listen to some local bands at my local neighborhood bar and I plan on having a GREAT time ! Then the rest of the weekend will be preparing... With a bright spot of my future DIL wants me to come to the bridal shop late Sat afternoon.  The wedding is July 19th, the day after my 2nd cycle of Taxol. I really hope I will be able to attend.

    Have great Friday everyone !

  • terrilynn
    terrilynn Member Posts: 4
    edited May 2013

    Hi everyone, I am 43 and I was diagnosed April 10, 2013 with TNBC, 10 days ago I had my lumpectomy and sentinel node biopsy, and port for chemo. my surgery path report showed that one of the 3 nodes removed was cancerous, and DCIS was found in other areas. I am stage 11b with a 3.5 cm lump (gone now!). I am waiting for results on the BRCA gene. I still cant believe how overwhelming this all is, I don't think I have had time to even wrap my brain around the fact I have breast cancer!! I go see my oncologist on the 15th and i will get details on when I start chemo. I am putting on my boxing gloves!!

  • inmate4232010
    inmate4232010 Member Posts: 310
    edited May 2013

    Hi to you too Wren.....

    Grammy....different chemo gave me different tastes.  Right now everything tastes buttery, including water.  The craving for "white" foods is pretty common, according to my doc.  His theory, eat what you can when you can especially if you have limited appetite.  I do like your chocolate milk craving.  That's what I'm talking about.  Have fun on your vacation.

    I too have not needed to use deodorant, or a razor for that matter.  Things I don't miss at all.

    Have a great day everyone.......Love to you all........d

  • inmate4232010
    inmate4232010 Member Posts: 310
    edited May 2013

    welcome terrilynn........let us know how we can help you.  It is a scary thing to get started with this whole process, but you can do it.

  • jhj0112
    jhj0112 Member Posts: 16
    edited May 2013

    Hi terrylin,



    You've got the exactly same type of cancer as my wife's..



    We were also told on april 10th, 2013 as well!!



    However, we have been told to do chemo first then surgery.



    Did you make the decision to have surgery first or your surgeon make that?



    Yeah, I totally know how you feel... We are supposed to be in Hawaii for our 10th yr wedding anni now..... Oh well, 11th yr wedding anni next yr! That's our goal!



    Let's keep in touch!

  • Lauralind5
    Lauralind5 Member Posts: 220
    edited May 2013

    Hi Terrilynn. Isnt it all just overwhelming??  I love coming here to see all these fantastic women who have already been through what we are starting, it DOES help !

  • jenjenl
    jenjenl Member Posts: 948
    edited May 2013

    Terrilynn - welcome.  WE are here for you!

  • gillyone
    gillyone Member Posts: 1,727
    edited May 2013

    page 700!!!!!!

  • TifJ
    TifJ Member Posts: 1,568
    edited May 2013

    Gilly- thanks for noting that! What a wonderful thread we have here- many thanks to Titan for starting it!

    Welcome to all the newbies. I know this is the last place you really want to be, but you will not find a more caring, supportive and knowledgable group of ladies! Remember- no question is too personal or stupid to ask!!

  • Stupidboob
    Stupidboob Member Posts: 345
    edited May 2013

    wrenwood47 thank you for the information on the deodorant issue.......I will have to try that. 

    lauralind5 there are several "they say" that deodorant with aluminum in it can clog the pores and then this allows stuff to just sit and turn cancerous.   I have talked to several people ACS, oncologist and etc. that say there simply is not enough proof in it for women to worry themselves, but being a woman with breast cancer it does make one wonder.   Supposedly men have less risk because most of their deodorant lies in the hair.     I have just been trying to find a natural one that works but does not create its own stink. 

    I wish all the newbies good luck on their path.........you will get so tired of hearing "its doable" but then later you will find yourself saying it to someone.    I wanted to smack anyone who said that to me because I felt horrible and I did not want to hear it..........:)   I am sorry you all have joined the club no one wants to be a part of.

  • Stupidboob
    Stupidboob Member Posts: 345
    edited May 2013

    I don't normally do this with people I don't really know but I need to vent.   I let some of this out but some I hold in.    2013 has sucked for my family.    I am mad as hell and about to break.   There is part of me that says why be mad it won't change anything but there is part of me that wants to go on a mountain top and SCREAM until my body can't scream anymore.   I lost my dad, my aunt and my beloved 16 year old furbaby.   Had cancer surgery done on my other girl and now she has been acting a bit off on certain days and of course I fear the big C..... 
    My cancer returned and my brother is going to have to have open heart surgery......:(   My hubby is not being as supportive as he was the first go around and I am scared..........I am scared to death.   I am scared of death.   I am just not sure how much more I can take.   I am ready for the gray cloud to leave my family.   No, we are no better thay anyone else but enough is enough.   Hubby has lost two uncles and we are just tired of DEATH!!! 
    I find myself getting more and more consumed with the thought and I know that is not good for me.   I keep saying to myself.........you are still here and be thankful for that.   I am but then that evil thought starts again.
    I am MAD!!!.............I am mad at the situation, I am mad at myself and I am mad at all the people who have once again scattered upon my diagnoses.   People treat us like we have snubbed toe.....I think it is because so many people now days have cancer that people think, oh she will be fine, it is just cancer and they will treat it and she will be fine.   Well, you know what I HOPE THAT IS THE CASE, but you all know we have lost to many on this list alone.    I guess I just get tired and hurt at the fact that people act like I have a cold.....not sure if I don't matter enough to them or I matter to much and they can't handle it.   Either way it hurts and I feel so alone.   Even people who have fought the battle and won (as of now) offer no support.   Am I just a reminder to them that it can happen to them as well.   I am sorry to air this with so many newbies but they too will endure these feelings sooner of later.   I hate that I am having them but damn it to hell I am HUMAN, I have feelings.  I feel like I am all alone in this this time.   Ok, maybe I will end my pity-party but not sure.   Thanks for letting me vent.   I am just mad at this whole situation and being agoraphobic does not help because I am yet again being forced to face fears.   I am mad because I won't make myself lose weight that I need too.   What is wrong with me.   I always thought, that if a doctor told me I had to do it to save my life I would be able to do it.   I have not.    Who knows maybe if I had made some changes I would have not full blown cancer that spread....who knows I could be skinny as a rail and still fighting it.   One never knows and that is the sad thing with cancer we are damned if we do and damned if we don't.    I hate it.....no right or wrong answers.  Pardon my language as I try not to use bad language but again I am just mad...........(should not let it get to me)

  • Liz1973
    Liz1973 Member Posts: 18
    edited May 2013

    Hello. This is a new forum for me. I just found out I have TN BC on April 18th,2013. I am 40 with 2 daughters, ages 1 and 9. I had a tenderness that wasn't going away in my breast so I went to see my Dr who recommended a diagnostic mammo and ultrasound which found a calcified area that was then biopsied and turned out to be cancer. I'm very nervous about this diagnosis, especially because I already have a heart condition/ family gene (ARVD) that took the lives of my mom at 47 and my sister at 20. I have a heart defibrillator and I found out that since my cancer is in my left breast that in order to do radiation, they might need to relocate it. Not an easy thing to do since the leads are hooked up to my heart and I've had it in place for 6 years since my heart attack. I also hear that chemo is not always easy on the heart. Has Anyone on here had something like this - a heart condition and went thru the rad and chemo?? Just when you think you've been dealt enough in your life, you get dealt BC. A friend of mine posted this phrase on my Facebook page: "If God only gives us what he thinks we can handle, then he must think I'm a Bad Ass!" Lol, thought it was appropriate. Especially since I have also lost my younger sister 4 years ago to an undertoe / rogue wave while she was vacationing in Mexico, and my Aunt who was like a mom to me died from breast cancer 2 years ago when it came back in her liver. I know that I have to beat this because I don't want to leave my girls without their momma!! I am scheduled for a lumpectomy on May 23 but if it turns up that I am positive for BRCA 1 or2, I may opt for a dbl mastectomy. I am searching out as much info as I can digest and I am getting a 2nd opinion on Monday. I'm glad to have found this discussion forum but I'm afraid I might spend too much time here...

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited May 2013

    Stupidboob..haven't had time to read your vent..and ready to go to bed..but I did want to respond to your question about deodorant.

    there is alot of stuff out there about antipersperant (spelled wrong) and deodorants...actually I stopped using it for awhile...lol..now I wear my husband's deodorant....it just seems safer to me...sweat..without the stink

  • Stupidboob
    Stupidboob Member Posts: 345
    edited May 2013

    Liz1973 I am sorry you have to be here and after reading your post, I feel mine is not as bad.   I have a few little things going on with my heart but not like you.  Adriamycin is the hardest on the heart from what I can understand but some oncologist are rethinking this one anyways so maybe they will not use this one on you.

    Thanks Titan I will have to look into the mens..........:)

  • regbeach
    regbeach Member Posts: 108
    edited May 2013

    Hi everyone,

    Is anyone "older" on this thread or have other health issues and been through chemo?  We have 5 days to decide if mom will be getting it.

    My mom had a stroke last June. She is 73 and, before the stroke, was fully independent- tennis, babysitting, bike-riding, etc.  Now, I am her live-in caregiver.  She walks with assistance and has difficulty communicating/speaking but is able to understand us more and more.  She goes to physical, occupational and speech therapy.  She had a lumpectomy in April and is triple negative, Grade 3, 2.7 cm.

    The MO said his biggest concern is her being able to communicate how she feels.  Abstract things are difficult to explain- like, numbness and tingling.  Dizzy and nauseous I've been able to communicate through gestures but who knows what she might be feeling with chemo and not be able to tell us accurately.

    She has really thick hair that all her shower aides have complimented her on.  I know she really identifies with it.  I also know that her sister will lecture me on putting my mom through this if we decide to do it.  Her sister (whose son died of cancer) thought getting a biopsy was a bad idea- "that some people just live with it."   I drew pictures for my mom for her to choose lumpectomy/mastectomy.   I will certainly talk to my mom more about it but ultimately my brother and I will be deciding/influencing.

    My fear of course is if one of the rare side effects happens or some terrible infection or complication.  On one hand, she is just getting back on a consistent therapy schedule after some medication side effect issues so it is difficult to think about another detour, and we have been looking forward to enjoying summer activities and taking a trip.  On the other hand, I know that chemo is her best defense for the future.  The MO said some people choose quality of life and skip chemo (though he says it will be beneficial and recommends it for mom.)   I should've asked- that's a few months quality of life, right?

    She would get Taxotere (docetaxel) and cyclophosphamide.  Skipping the anthra....drug due to risk of heart damage.

    Sorry for the long post.  Any comments?

  • lmcclure4477
    lmcclure4477 Member Posts: 180
    edited May 2013

    For those searching for a deodorant, I have tried many which made me actually stink worse! Then I finally found one that works! If you have a Wegmans near you, go into their organic section and there is a deodorant called Kiss My Face. Make sure you get the roll on because that seems to work better. It has no aluminum, parabens, phthalates, etc. No more stink, but still sweat a little.

  • 5thSib
    5thSib Member Posts: 141
    edited May 2013

    StupidBoob -- You have been through so much in such a short time -- don't worry about venting here to us. We get it. I am praying for a ray of sonshine to come your way soon to cheer you up. Don't beat yourself up too much on the weight issue -- I weighted 114, exercised every day, ate well most of the time. I still got it. I can relate to people thinking, "oh, it's just breast cancer, that is so curable today." Well try having it and seeing if you ever again say "oh it's just breast cancer." I'm fine with someone who's been there telling me that I can make it through the treatments and things like that because I know they know and understand. I have a friend people would not recognize if they saw her without her makeup. When I told her I was losing my eyelashes and eyebrows, she said, "oh that's not so bad, they will grow back." I wanted to scream at her, "let it happen to you and see if you still think that." She sells Mary Kay. What I needed from her at that moment was to give me some sympathy and offer to help me with some makeup ideas. Oh well, now I'm starting to rant.

    Liz1973 -- so sorry this has happened to you along with your other health issues. Most of the time if you have a mastectomy you don't have to have radiation (not always the case if lymph nodes are involved). Talk to your doctor. That might be the safest route for you. This is a wonderful forum. It has been such a blessing to me.

    Regbeach -- wish I could offer some help. What a tough spot to be in. I can offer prayers as you make your decisions. Maybe getting a second opinion will help with your decision. You can always stop treatments at any time if they become too much for your mom.

    When I went for my radiation test run Friday, my RO told me that she just was not comfortable with doing the treatment at that facility (they are replacing some of their machines and they are down to one machine). She was afraid that we would be having to take too many breaks because of burning and irritation. So, I'll have to go to a clinic in a city a little further away. It's really not that much more driving time -- maybe 40 minutes compared to 25 minutes, but more traffic to deal with. They sent me on over there Friday afternoon to have my markings redone and I'll start treatments on Tuesday instead of Monday. At least I'll still have my same RO. I really do like her.

    I hope everyone has a great weekend.

  • natL12
    natL12 Member Posts: 135
    edited May 2013

    To stupidboob Vent all you want...this is the place for it.  We all try to understand the awkward comments we get from folks, but it sure is hard!  I REALLY  had problems with communicating with those women who only had a lumpectomy and radiation.  They didn't know what HELL is.

    I never considered  the deodorant problem!  I thought I stank all over while I was doing chemo...could hardly wait to get to the shower in the morning to help the situation.  I remember saying to my DH, "I look bad, I feel bad, and I smell bad."  And he replied, "You don't smell bad." But I sitll thought I did.

    to regbeach - Sorry you are having to make those decisions for your mother. Other family members may try to out guess you, but it is always a guess....what to do, what treatments to follow. Your doctor is your best guide, and you can always refer the rest of the family to him/her.  My doctor said "mastectomy, chemo (Taxotere, Cytoxin), and radiation." so I said "OK"

    By the way, I'm 76, have had heart surgery( 3 valves repaired), have a pacemaker. Fortunately, this BC was on the right side, so radiation was no problem.  Haven't had a stroke! Have had 2 TIAs but now I take warfarin to try to prevent any more. Nat 

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