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  • Jennie93
    Jennie93 Member Posts: 1,018
    edited May 2013

    Jayjay, I just finished today. This week was the 5 boosts. They were so much quicker than the rest! And so far anyway, they have not caused any additional irritation. In my case the boost is treating just the area right around my scar. The place where the skin was blistering & peeling is in the armpit area. That did keep getting worse after the final treatment to that area, but now one week out, I think it may be starting to turn the corner. They gave me some Silvadine cream for it which is very soothing. All in all, nothing unbearable, and the boosts are easy peasy! You will do great.

  • MMSS
    MMSS Member Posts: 103
    edited May 2013

    Grrrrr! I am NOT a happy camper today. I was down to my last regular treatment with the boosts scheduled to start on Monday and be finished next Friday. Then the machine went down today and they had to cancel my treatment. I have these annoying stickers all over my chest to protect their sharpie marks and I was to get several of them off today and now it will be Monday. What bugs me about that is that the whole area is a dark red and much of it is covered with a itchy rash called radiation dermatitis and I can't put the healing stuff on the stickers or treat the area under them. I was SO looking forward to being able to do that. I know that it is not uncommon for these machine failures to happen but it is hard to finally get a finish date and then have it yanked away. A while back I would have killed for a long weekend but not now. Be careful what you wish for. End of rant. Happy Friday everyone. Hope your weekend is a good one. Susan

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited May 2013

    Hi JayJayc -

    Congrats on day 20! Did your RO give you a RX for 2.5% hydrocortisone? It really helps ease the rad rash:). If not ask on Monday. I'm still using it with emu oil and my skin is doing well. I found wearing a cami with left girl exposed (free boobing) really helped skin irritation and skin on skin issues...can also add a nursing blanket to be modest but the skin likes air:)

    I did 28 full breast 2 directions and 5 boosts tumor area. My boost field was across the top and on the underarm side...c was near the chest wall at 12:30 left side. 2 zaps about 20-30 seconds. Rad techs drew a picture so I could see each area...took pics/film each day.

    RO said skin would continue to radiate for a while so...but other than pink red tan and do it again...it is very doable.

    There is a relief knowing you are in the final zaps! And the zap is aimed at tumor area...so the girl gets some relief:)

    You will do fine rad warrior! Hope this eases your mind...you and the girl will be ok...just keep hydrating, moisturing, eating well, and resting. Boost may make you more fatigued so be kind to your self. Sending skin and mind calming thoughts:)

    (((Hugs)))

    Cindy

  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited May 2013

    Jayjayc, I finished boosts a week ago which means the larger field finished two weeks ago.  The bigger area just looks very light tan now!  As it has been two weeks, I think it probably won't get any worse from here.  The boost area was bull's eye to the nipple.  Today I noticed some yellow waxy buildup right around the nipple, or so I thought, and when I gently pulled it off with a fingernail, it turned out to be skin!  That sounds more gruesome than it was, though.  It didn't hurt, and it seemed like genuinely ready-to-flake-off skin.  What's under it is red and shiny and doesn't show unless I pull the skin taut, because the nipple and areola are a little puffy and that creates this new little fold directly around it.  I put some Aquaphor on it twice today and a mix of calendula cream and 1% hydrocortisone on the rest of the boost area.  How's that for detail?!  Anyway to me the skin flaking off is a curiosity more than anything else.  My bigger problem is the whole areola is itchy. That might be getting better too.  I'm tired, but only maybe 10% more than usual, and it's essentially more of the same rather than any special kind of fatigue.

    MMSS, rotten luck!  I am shocked that they left the stickers on you.  I found them very uncomfortable and the techs were quick to take them off as soon as they could.  They used acetate to trace a map of my boost area and put the acetate back on the breast every boost day, dotting the boost area with a Sharpie.  This was not really pleasant (I made dramatic faces so the techs would know!) but not exactly painful.  If I were in your shoes and the stickers were bugging me and I were feeling rebellious, I think I'd pull those stickers off and let them deal with it on Monday.  It's asking a lot for you to keep them on over the weekend!  Won't they come off in the shower?  (Wink, wink!)

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited May 2013

    MMSS - take them off! My sticker next to my lx incision came off several times on its own.,,rad techs says it happens...1st time stuck to my clothes...shower next 2x.

    Take a cool shower...have a good skin healing weekend!

  • Cynthie
    Cynthie Member Posts: 32
    edited May 2013

    Susan, I agree with Cindy and others---do whatever you want over this weekend. Those stickers are to protect the markings, right---well, you can just touch 'em up yourself afterwards if you need to. But I don't think Sharpie marks will come off with gentle washing---there will be enough left for the techs to see on Monday. 

    Soooo aggravating on your LAST DAY!!!!  Just don't go back Cool!

    One of the worst experiences at my rads clinic was over the four-day Easter weekend when they covered their 10" long markings with pieces of the stickiest tape ever invented. I peeled them off the next day---the marks disappeared along with at least one layer of skin. Red welts were visible for days.  Thank God, that was at the beginning of my treatments and I had extra skin to lose!

    After nine days of freedom Laughing, the edges of the burn are starting to fade, no skin breakdown (yet?? :O), hardly any peeling or itching.  Yay!!  And I thought my energy level stayed pretty high throughout (except that last miserable week), but this week I'm suddenly getting so much done.  Good thing---we're moving back to the States the end of June and the to-do list is as long as my arm. 

    Hugs and healing,

    Cynthie    

  • braids3
    braids3 Member Posts: 173
    edited May 2013

    ok I'm confused i'm getting 25 wbreast and14 boosts my wbreast is to4 movements of the machine oh and my total grays 45  all of this sounds diffrent from you alls is it because i havn't had mx or lump. RMlulu you in tx now? i just finished 3 weeks 15 of 39 so after next week i'll be 1/2 way thank u all for being here and supporting eachother love to all

    chris

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited May 2013

    Hi Chris

    Congrats on completing 15 rads:). You are zappin forward yeah! Next Friday 1/2 way done!

    Since each cancer is different so our ROs plan our treatment according to our battle plan.

    So there may be similarities and differences so ask your RO.

    Your protocol is

    25 full breast

    14 boosts aimed at tumor bed

    So your RO determines how best to reach the desired fields...maybe 2 motions maybe 5 motions of the machine or some combo thereof. I would ask RO....to ensure you fully understand your tx.

    I received 1.8 grays each rad session...I'm happy rads are done and pleased that my skin has done well...I see RO Wed before flying home...praying not too many changes in skin after. I will celebrate Memorial Day by beginning my HT:)?

    We learn so much from each other and there is comfort in knowing we are not alone on this crazy roller coaster ...

    Sending calming confident thoughts:)))

    (((Hugs)))

    Cindy

  • jayjayc
    jayjayc Member Posts: 69
    edited May 2013

    Hi Cynthie,

    I'm confused about the tape..... The only tape I've ever had was when they put the little pad on my scar right before radiation.... and they take that off right after. During my mapping I did get sharpie lines but they only used those to help give my my three little blue dot tatoos (one on each side and one in the middle of my boobs).  

    So when/why are you getting tape and sharpie lines??

  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited May 2013

    Jayjayc, I only had tape when they mapped me for the boost (not the original mapping for tattoos), and they didn't leave it on.  I never got a pad on my scar either.  It seems there is lots of variation in this stuff though. 

  • MMSS
    MMSS Member Posts: 103
    edited May 2013

    Some places use sharpie marks covered by clear stickers in place of the tattoos. Where I go that is their default position although they will do the tattoos if you request it. If I had known then what I know now I would definitely have gone with the tattoos because while they are permanent there are a lot less of them and they don't have to be taken off of damaged skin. I finally got several stickers off today but it  hurt and I really wish I had not opted for them. It wasn't what I would call an informed consent. Oh well no use crying over spilled milk although I do feel like crying over the burned area in my armpit that hurts constantly.

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited May 2013

    Hi Rad Taggers!



    Tats, stickers, sharpies, tape, and more! and then all the naked girl photos...oh my! Rads rockers! Y'all rock! I don't remember options other than me adding stick figures and comedy body marks! Stick girl praying, jaws, lightening bolts...fun!

    Today was a good good day:). My almost 4 mos post lx BS checkup...BS said lx&snd look great:)....was amazed my skin looked so good...said expected that rads would have been though on my fair skin...prayers! I know the girl is still cooking, but so thankful she is hanging in there. Hydrate, eating well, rest, and free boobing! Yippee...RO tomorrow !

    Got my first post lx bra&prothesis and compression sleeve diva dragon tattoo! Rah!



    Yeah for those beginning this week and yippee happy dance for those finishing this week!

    Serious laser tag...fight on brave warriors:)

    (((Hugs)))

    Cindy

  • Cynthie
    Cynthie Member Posts: 32
    edited May 2013

    Jayjay, I live in Germany (for six more weeks!) and boy, do they have a different approach to radiation markings and skin care!  I won't repeat my ranting posts but if you want a laugh, look 'em up.  Smile

    Yeah MMSS "informed consent" was a joke at my place too.  I did ask them about tattoos but they looked at me like I was from another planet.

    Tomorrow is two weeks out for me.  Tons of energy, a bit of fading pink, a few stingers once in a while but I'm starting to wear a bra without a tee underneath and sometimes go for hours not thinking about it!  Still hydrating and lubing and counting my blessings!

    Look out life---I'm baaaaack!!!

  • momtotenkids
    momtotenkids Member Posts: 53
    edited May 2013

    It's been awhile since I checked in and caught up on all he posts. Glad to hear more of us have completed treatments.

    I am 8 days out from my last tx and doing great. Skin is tan but the rash is gone so no more itching! The area from my arm pit down to my breast is still tender and feels swollen and my arm feels slightly heavy. It is getting better though. The zingers are going away too. My energy level is back up too.

  • braids3
    braids3 Member Posts: 173
    edited May 2013

    ok heres a new one my neus are down to 1.7 this has not happened at all on xeloda has anyone else had a drop on blood counts. tomorrow i will be half way done. some itching of nipple some redness very sensitive to fabric so spend most of my time free boobing or wearing over-sized button up shirts.  Hope all are hangin in with all of this laser tag staying cool and up beat!

    love chris

  • jayjayc
    jayjayc Member Posts: 69
    edited May 2013

    Hi all,

    Speaking about "zingers"...... I was sitting with a male co-worker talking about a project when I got a big zinger in

  • Jennie93
    Jennie93 Member Posts: 1,018
    edited May 2013

    Hoping for advice from those who have traveled this road ahead of us.  One week out from rads and the skin is healing nicely, no issues there.  But the pain and tightness in the armpit actually seems to be getting worse, not better.  And I never had any pain to speak of around my scar in the 8 months since my surgery, well now I do, and it seems to be increasing not decreasing.  Does the rads do something to the scar tissue?  Anyone else have this experience?  I'm not sure what to do.  

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited May 2013

    Hi Jennie93 - congrats on 1 wk post- rads! Yippee skin is healing well:). Pain ugh:(

    When in doubt call your RO or drop in and ask! I've had tension in the SND area and take aleve for the inflammation and it helps. I also exercise and stretch my arms frequently each day...seems to help. My scar tissue looks great...using neosporin hydrocortisone and a tad of emu oil...best it's looked in months:)). But yes, there is a tension in the area which I think is just the body responding to the rads and new tissue and skin...

    Sending speedy pain free healing thoughts your way ((( hugs)))

    Cindy

  • magnolia57
    magnolia57 Member Posts: 28
    edited May 2013

    Hi all! Jennie93, I have soreness and some irritation on my scar under my armpit. I have done 15/33, and noticed it around day 11.... Itchy nipples, too. Overall it seems like this is doable, tho things are starting to heat up. I am so thankful for this community for ideas, support, and the good humor.



  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited May 2013

    Hi Magnolia57



    Congrats on 15/33! Soon you will be smiling so big...more days behind than ahead which is a great feeling:))). You're rockin laser tag:)

    For the itch ask RO for 2.5% hydrocortisone and emu oil once I began using that combo my skin felt so much better and rad rash eased:) also free boob if you can...a ami with the left girl airing out.

    I'm 3 wks post rads and girl looks great! She took 33 for the team:). Ooo whoo she did gr8!

    Sending calm confident healing skin thoughts(((hugs)))

    Cindy

  • magnolia57
    magnolia57 Member Posts: 28
    edited May 2013

    Thanks, Cindy! I will ask my radiology onco about some hydrocortisone cream and the emu oil. She mentioned the hydro, but not emu. I wonder if she knows about it. I've dropped the bra which has been really different for me and so helpful. I never could find a cotton bra that didn't feel scratchy, so bra less at home has worked. I may need to free boob if I get super itchy. You do what ya gotta do. Glad you're doing well and that three weeks out is looking good. I've heard that you continue to "cook" for a couple weeks post rads . Did you notice that at all? Thanks for all your positive thoughts to the team on this post - you're awesome.

  • CLYDAY
    CLYDAY Member Posts: 81
    edited May 2013

    Hi all!  I will be starting RADS in a little over a week and very nervous!  I see alot on here have had a lumpectomy but what is the difference in RADS with mastectomy?? Do we still get the boosts??  I have TE and so worried the RADS will ruin my chances of finishing reconstruction...I am having to move 4 hours away and come home on the weekends...so my focus will be on keeping my skin hydrated and will not be working....I saw letting the girls out is the best thing so I plan to do that!!  Any tips would be appreciated!  Also did anyone change your diet??  I meet with my RO on Tues and if anyone can think of more ?s to ask please let me know! I know I will be having 33 treatments.  I am also getting RADS on my left side and the RO has mentioned protecting my heart and coronary arteries.  Emu oil has been mentionioned alot...can you buy it at Target...ect...so glad to have found this site...it is really lifted up my spirits

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited May 2013

    Hi CLYDAY!



    Welcome and glad you found our rag tag warriors! You will rock rads. Sorry you have to live away during tx...but you will so enjoy the weekends:)

    Make your list of questions & concerns prior to treatment ASK. There have been ladies here and on the winter rads that had TEs so post for suggestions. My RO said the 33 protocol was kindest to the skin...my skin did very well another rad with TE did well too!

    Moisturize is so important...I showered just before rads so my girl was lubed almost 22 hours a day. Miaderm and emu oil when rad rash developed - emu jeans cream my girls all on amazon.com.

    Diet- hydrate 10-14 cups...protein smoothies yumm

    70 grams protein salmon, plain Greek yogurt, nuts, chicken turkey

    60 grams fiber...3-5 veggies & fruit, but no berries too hi in anti oxidants pineapple mango apples. Think I was an eating drinking machine and still lost a few pounds...

    Sure everyone is different and only a multi vit. Organic, vegan 2x a week...no sugar yeah hard, but organic chocolate wed&sun as treat! Ha

    Try and make rads fun and be kind to yourself...radiation- does ths make my butt look bigger!

    Hope you will have family with you or use a FaceTime or skipe away!

    (((Hugs)))

    Cindy

  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited May 2013

    Jennie93, if your incision is getting tighter, I'd ask your RO for a referral to a physical therapist who has training in cancer care and/or lymphedema.  I'm getting excellent PT twice a week now.  She's working on my incisions and lymph flow and some reduced range of motion in my shoulder.  She's using Graston technique (scary-looking metal scrapy bars, but they don't really hurt) to smooth out the bunchy spots in my arm muscles from the lymph node incision and lots of massage.  After she works on me, I can move my arm without pain, like a magic trick.  Hours later the tugging is back, but she says after a few weeks, my incision will be softer and my arm will be able to move as freely as the other one.  Worth asking your RO or primary care physician for a PT referral if you haven't yet.

    CLYDAY, take heart!  Some people do have trouble with rads, but hey, you've been through chemo, and quite likely you will find rads easier.  (This is what I hear from just about everyone who's done both.)  I tried to hydrate more and eat more protein and didn't do very well, but I might get enough protein already.  I did a breath-holding technique to protect my heart--ask about that if they haven't brought it up (they called it deep inspiration breath hold).  Others will probably be able to answer about the TE issues (ask your RO if you haven't), but I had only minimal skin and fatigue issues.  I got emu oil online, but what I actually used was 99% aloe jelly (from a health food store, $4), Aquaphor (which the RO gave me), calendula cream (online) and 1% hydrocortisone.  I mostly used aloe during the weeks of rads and the others after the boost, when my skin was pinkest.

    My real advice is to stay distracted.  Rads didn't take as much out of me mentally as I thought it would because I had a different driver every day.  The variety was a HUGE help--I wasn't thinking much about the countdown, just about who I was talking to on each long drive.  Since you'll be away from home, maybe make a scheme to do something different every day, get yourself a little treat, read a great book series, whatever makes you happy and makes the time go fast.  Long break from work?  Maybe not so bad.  Good luck and keep us posted!

  • Bets4bama
    Bets4bama Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2013

    Hi all! Newbie here.....just found this site recently. Wish I had found it in January when I started my chemo. Oh well.

    I've only got 7 more rads! Yippee! I'm already getting my boosts. My doc gives 8 as her standard of care. My only question tonight is this: does going through radiation cause a "delayed effect" on some of the SE's of chemo? For example, I never once had mouth sores or ulcers during chemo but I've got em now....and for the second time in a few weeks. And out of the clear blue, two weeks ago quite a few of my eyelashes started falling out! I had my last chemo on March 19 so I thought I was good as far as eyelashes were concerned. My MO wrote me a script for Latisse. Hope that helps. Anyway, I was just wondering if this has anything to do with the rads, which I am tolerating fairly well I guess compared to others I've seen post on here.

    Have a great week sisters!

  • Jennie93
    Jennie93 Member Posts: 1,018
    edited May 2013

    CLYDAY - I had MX and rads, on the left side also.  Did the breath holding thing, too.  It worked very well, my heart was completely out of the field that way.  If they don't suggest it, ask about it.  They had to do the simulation/mapping twice, but it was well worth the effort since it gave a much better result.  The last week was just "boosts" which is the easiest part, just one quick zap aimed right at the scar area only. You will find rads much easier than chemo, almost certainly.  The every day part was the hardest thing for me.  I had a super wonderful RO who told me exactly what to expect every step of the way.  Skin started getting pink about halfway through, but no discomfort until the last week.  One spot in armpit got blistered and raw.  The worst days were about 4-6 after the last full field zap.  So it does get worse for a little while after.  But they gave me some silver-something(?) cream which was very soothing and it healed up fast.

    Your RO will tell you what to use on your skin and when.  Some only want you to use certain things.  Others say whatever feels good.  Either way be sure to wash it all off before you go there each day.  Mine said to use pure aloe vera or a water-based cream (no oils or oil-based creams) but toward the end when it got ouchy then they gave me Aquaphor.  Don't buy anything yet.  I had seen lots of people recommend Miaderm on here, and looked it up on Amazon, very expensive stuff!  And as it turned out my RO gave me free samples of the stuff they like, anyway.  So wait and see.

    You will probably be told to drink lots of water, eat plenty of protein, and avoid any supplements during treatment (a basic multivitamin is ok but no antioxidants).  You will probably be more sleepy than usual.  That's about it.  You will do great!   :-)

    Bets4bama -  I don't think you can blame the rads for the eyelashes...  mine hung in there all through 4 months of chemo and then started falling out 6 weeks later!  Bummer!  Come to find out that is actually not uncommon.  But they grew back really fast.  About the time the bottom lashes were all gone, the new baby ones were already starting to appear.  

  • CLYDAY
    CLYDAY Member Posts: 81
    edited May 2013

    Thank you everyone for your advice!! I will keep you posted as I will have alot of free time by myself up there!  I head up to Birmingham today and see the RO tomorrow I guess for the simulation??  Anyhow I am so glad to have some sisters on here who can help me thru it...thanks and God Bless!!

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited May 2013

    CLYDAY - we're in your pocket {{{squeeze}}}

  • Jennie93
    Jennie93 Member Posts: 1,018
    edited May 2013

    Oh and one thing I learned the hard way - ouch !! - never put aloe on the raw places!! I had been using it (at bedtime, because it's sticky) on the pink area, and that was fine, but when the armpit blistered and peeled, I thought aloe was supposed to be good for burns, thought it would be soothing, but holy crap! It burned like crazy!!! And yes I double checked to be sure and it is 100% pure aloe, nothing else, but dang, it felt like pure alcohol! :-(

  • MMSS
    MMSS Member Posts: 103
    edited May 2013

    I finally finished today and I am SO glad to have that behind me. The energy started coming back just a bit when I started the boosts but I still have a burned area under my arm  that really hurts but at least it is not being further insulted. I will miss the techs who are amazing people but not their machine. One of the best parts of finishing was to be able to slather on the cream that they say will loosen the last of my infernal stickers. My skin is in no shape to just peel them off. My DH took me out to dinner to celebrate and I am firmly committed to finding more fun for my life. Doing BC on top of a total knee replacement last May has not made for a great year. Went to the book store and bought two vegan cook books. I am not slavish about it but am trending in that direction because I feel better and have found that I can eat almost anything that I want if I do that and cut way back on sugar. However I do consider a small amount of dark chocolate to be medicinal. Good luck to everyone starting. I never thought that I would see the end of it but that day does come. Hang in there!

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