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  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited May 2013

    Oh FOLEY, when I saw your moon picture, I said out loud, "Ohhhh."  Really got me, too, like it did KATH and CHAB. 

    LILY, I have a similar problem.  My sleep patterns re all over the place.  I began a new medicine that kept me too revved up, so I'm officialy down to one pill, cut in half.  Had two good mornings, two slip-ups, so I'm satisfied I got that straight.  LILY, I had to also figure out what medicine was goofing me up all day in the sleep thing like yours, and I did narrow it down to two.  I've continued ALL my meds, but each one I cut back on, to figure out which one was "it."  I'm down to two possibilities.  I'm going to cut back on one, and see how I do, and then back up on it, and drop down on the other one, and see how I do.  That way, I'll KNOW which one turned me into a zombie.  LILY, it is a GOOD thing you finally got "real" sleep.  I've had that happen.  If you're wondering which med is stopping your dreams, you could cut back on the culprit and see if your dreaming returns, but not sleeping round the clock.

    ALL, I am up mighty early, but I'm still treating it like "morning."  But it makes for a lonely existence whilst it's still dark outside, even the birds don't sing, just a light sound of a few cicadas (grasshoppers).  Even tho we're in the mountains, we get some very warm days.  Asheville is in a valley, in the South, we're only 2,000 feet above sea level, just high enough altitude to keep us coolish longer and thru the summer.  But the cold in winter, TO ME, is very very cold.  I SO wish I could have moved down to Charleston SC.  My dream town.  Many, many years ago, before I met my second husband, I had been thinking of going there.  Oh, well.  No way now.  Unless I can get back in shape.  But exercise hurts so much.  Still, I DO plan to start exercise soon, irregardless, because I've really had it with this laying around business.  Makes me spend too much time within my thoughts.

    I hope all of you sweet ladies who are suffering like me and those of us that still return, are doing much better now that spring is officially here, altho I think the moon said it was back in late March or early April, to me May Day is sort of in between.  Summer comes when the Indy 500 races come, I ALWAYS watch those (just as I always watch the dog shows in January, and the Oscars in February).  I remember a song by Michael Murphy, "By the light of the moon, I planted, but there came a morning snow..."  Husband and I both know together the whole thing.  I keep pushing Richard to get out his guitar,he has a very nice one stored someplace in the shed, I think.  I have a black 12-string, it's hard to hold down the strings now with my neuropathy still a little in my fingers.  DANG.  They are both numb and hurt at the same time.  Until next time, and yes, FOLEY, we LOVE your pics, so varied, so pretty, you got you some views!  GG

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited May 2013

    Yesterday was anniversary of my surgery and after four measly hours of sleep here i am awake, sad and so fed up with not sleeping or feeling ok.......i made the mistake of contacting a bc group and said how i feel mutilated, and am looking for support.....what did I get back? A lecture telling me to stop the self pity and work at getting my life back! apparently i am the ONLY person who has ever described mx as mutilation............



    Not doing that again for sure, it just makes me feel more weird and isolated and so now i am a failure at having bc, when actually i am doing as much as i can in normal life but i do have a much heavier heart than before.....

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited May 2013

    Has anyone heard from Fuzzylemon in any way? i do hope she is ok.........

  • juliaanna
    juliaanna Member Posts: 1,043
    edited May 2013

    Lilly55,  I usually lurk but wanted to let you know you are not alone.  You are entitled to your feelings.  I'm sorry you didn't get the support you were looking for and that you deserve.  I know I struggle sometimes with living a "normal" life.  You are not a failure at anything!  Sending positive thoughts your way.

  • Shellshine
    Shellshine Member Posts: 1,039
    edited May 2013

    Lily, A breast cancer "support" group that says you shouldn't be having YOUR feelings, and labeling you with "self pity?" THEY are abnormal, not you.

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited May 2013

    Right on, SHELL, for LIL is one of our better members, she brings her cat avatar with her, and she always says nice things, and her complaints are just like ours, we're ALL DEALING WITH CANCER REFUSE.  Yes, that disease takes more than just a limb or other body parts.  It takes our peace of mind.  And then many of us, like you and me, LIL, have to deal with medicines of various types, all in the name of cancer.  I'd be upset, too, waking up with only a few hours sleep.  It's an awful thing, sometimes, this struggle to be free.

    Yah, LIL, I talked to Fuzz briefly on a phone message, and she to me, she's still working through her mother's passing, Fuzz has children, as I"m sure you gathered from her posts, so they lost their grandmother.  Also, school is letting out, so she'll have a full house for a while.  But for you LIL, I think IF FUZZY drops in to read, maybe she'll come on board for a couple days to console us. 

    EVERYONE, today I woke up at 6 a.m., a divine thing, for the day before I was like LIL, I was up all the night and I hated it.  But I knew eventually things would settle, it's just going to take some time, as I know basically what's doing this.  Ummm, today it's good I slept around the clock.  I have to go to the bank, get my pills (hooray, I'm out of several), groceries, then home to pay umpteen dozen hospital bills from last time I was in the hospital, at the psych lockup when I apparently lost it when they mistakenly didn't treat me for gastric issues.  I still have some of those gastric problems, but they are slowly getting better.  I'd have been better sooner if only they had listened to me.  But in psych wards, EVERYONE says, "I'm not supposed to be here."  HAHAHAHA.  A shout out to FOLEY b4 I go.  If there are times you'd rather not post a picture for us, it's perfectly okay, it seemed to be on your mind.  At the same time, everyone enjoys this thread being prettied up with your wonderous views and places around your lovely home, and lovely you.  Love to all my sisters, Gail 

  • kathindc
    kathindc Member Posts: 2,042
    edited May 2013

    Lily, how awful that a "support" group treated you that way.  You have a right to your feelings.  Unless I'm mistaken, I thought the purpose of a support group was to help you understand why you have these feelings and how to cope with them so that they diminish with time.  I know what you mean by feeling mutilated.  I researched what my chest would look like six ways to Sunday and was as prepared for it as anyone could be.  What I am finding out is that you aren't prepared for the emotional effect it takes on you.

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited May 2013

    You know what, LADIES?  I miss some of you very much.  I miss DUNE, and of course FUZZY, and too many others to name.  Where have all the flowers gone?  Perhaps people are adjusting and don't have as much consternation to fill in these boxes.  I surely do not know.

    YA'LL, I'm a 'tellin ya, it's unreal that I got everything done yesterday.  Oh, I was weary, though.  So, saved bills for later this morning.  Pretty big stack, many are doctor bills from an unnecessary stay in the hospital for a week, and boy did I write THEM a big letter, and the rest of my bills are usual, but many are double ones becuz I missed them last month, I guess.  If it takes every cent I have to pay them, I'll do it, save the hospital bill.  Thought I'd pay it in thirds, with a note I'll continue to do so each month, which it'll be paid off in July.  The letter I wrote suggested they reduce my hospital bill by a third, altho I didn't ask for that, but gee whiz, what a mistake they made, and I even told them how to resolve it, which is for each patient that comes in as a nonemergent case should be ASKED how come they're there.  They went by what a very misguided and unhappy worker with EMT had to say, and apparently my Urgent Care notes did not accompany me as they should have.  OH, well, gotta let that go.

    See, I can stir up controversy and upset-tudeness (my brother's favorite add-on) anytime it's called for.  My appointment to see my cancer doc has been moved to August.  I had to cancel one I had a week or two ago, and that was as early as they could get me in.  I don't think any of us, me and the docs and nurses, are particularly worried about me.  I DO need to see a dermatolgist, tho, for the melanoma I had.  Like most people, I got plenty of moles, and it's a pretty deadly thing to have at any time.  I also need to see a gastro to get these digestive issues straight, since my hospital didn't do it for me when I needed it. 

    But you know what, GIRLS, I AM glad to be alive!  Oh, the beauty of it, no matter how dark the corners, under the bed, and in the closet can be, even on a cloudy day, there are birds, trees, or out West the beautiful expanse of desert and northern Rockies where they flatten out into Montana, the Big Sky country, our world is a pretty place.  It's just people on top of each other, waiting for other people, having to talk to people,when you don't feel good, IT'S HARD.  And some people, gee whiz, LIL, how RUDE was that red ant or what!?!  Well, you can tell us whatever you want here, WE KNOW what it's like. 

    Ya'll hang in, visit now and then if you want, even if it's just to say hi, or to complain, or to tell us something great that has happened to you.  I've done all three, but I ain't shy.  I jus likes to talk.  I'm a talkin fool.  HA!  Until next time, as the world turns, GG

  • Joan811
    Joan811 Member Posts: 2,672
    edited May 2013

    GG, glad I can catch up with you here!  I find doing the medical stuff such a chore and it always seems like I pay and then I get a bill anyway...
    I agree...there is beauty everywhere if we look...
    Gma, I love your views...flatlander here so I feast on your hills.
    Shell, good to see you...hope you are doing well.
    Lil, your feelings are your feelings and they should always be accepted ...hugs...
    Wishing everyone a good day ...

  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited May 2013

    Ladies, I've been busy with scapula PT and just can't be on computer much after my job, which has been swamped with press releases. I have to put up their huge financials. I will try to get up more "peaceful" pics up next week. Love you - got to work at JoAnn's today. Have a great day!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2013

    I check in several times a day. Chemo has done a nasty job on top of the job its supposed to be doing. Lots of neuropathy in my fingers and feet. The Onc cut the dose back to 75% and told me to get some vit b pills. Yesterday I went shopping for the first time in weeks. I don't know if I was tired or if it was chemobrain but I drove out in the incoming lane. I kept reminding myself not to do that but it happened. Thankfully there weren't any cars comming in. Made it home safely.

  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited May 2013

    Off to bed during a thunder storm first view from the west and next view from the east.

    Western view

    eastern sky

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited May 2013

    GMA, I had some tapes that were supposed to help me sleep. The ones that worked the best were the train and the thunderstorms. Guess that's from growing up in Kansas & Oklahoma where they're pretty common. I had one tape of ocean waves. It worked really well until the part where gulls were crying. I would wake up thinking, why are gulls up in the middle of the night?

  • chabba
    chabba Member Posts: 5,065
    edited May 2013

    I would love an ocean tape, but not with gulls.  Not only disruptive noise but they don't fly and cry at night. 

    Train fine if no horn or whistle, there was a train that ran past the house we lived in when I was in middle school.  It didn't keep me awake but it didn't use it's horn till it was near the station down town. 

    A thunder storm might work if it is the grumbling kind but a clap that sounds like it is very close would jolt me awake. I've had a couple of close encounters with lightening bolts and thunder that sounds very close tends to startle me more than any other kind of sound.

    But then I seem to be able to adapt to almost any level or type of noise when it comes to sleeping.  We once lived at the end of the SeaTac runway and needed black-out drapes because the jet's landing lights flooded into our house.  For an hour after we went to bed the first night I couldn't get to sleep.  After that the  noise never bothered me.

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited May 2013

    JOANIE, always nice to see you.  WREN, that's funny about the gulls.

    VEGGY, you have NO IDEA how glad I am to hear from little ole you, dear one!!!  To hear you are making it thru again, with some fight in you, and knowing where thou art in the car (but then forgetting) sounds exactly like me!  I think that neuropathy you got will settle down, mine did, altho I still have it, just not quite as debilitating.  I hope THIS dang time, treatments will banish cancer from you forever, to be sure.

    FOLEY, love them clouds.  We had an upward and sideways strip of clouds come over our town for days, downpours, one after another, but SURE is green here.  GG 

  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited May 2013

    I can't do ocean tapes - they make me have to get up and go potty!!! no running water anywhere lol 

    I was seeing the lightening where it struck a few times - for here that means forest fires - NOT good sound to sleep by for us.  I did turn on my normal music but it took me 2 hours to get to sleep - I'm taking the tamox in the morning at 6 am - didn't think it would be disturbing my sleep but not sure anymore.. I'm still shakey too - maybe its getting of the Nuvigil the sleep doc gave me to stay awake during my weird shift - I am so confused and tired this morning.  Sun was up at 5:30 this morning - but didn't go out to take any new pictures - this one is from last night.

    "Light at the end of the Storm"

    Calm at the end of the storm

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2013

     I haven't driven or been in a car since the day I drove out the wrong lane.

    I remember for our birthing classes they played those tapes that are supposed to make you relax. They played the ocean one. I'm laying there, 9 months pregnant, laughing. I envisioned all of us preggars being beached whales and the seagulls were attacking us.

    Its another pretty day today.

    I should get the coffee pot going and enjoy it outside.

  • kathindc
    kathindc Member Posts: 2,042
    edited May 2013

    Gma, as always stunning photos!

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited May 2013

    Veggy, that is so funny!

    Chabba, Know what you mean. I grew up a few miles from the runway of an Air Force base. After a while, you just don't hear them.

  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited May 2013

    Just got a note back from my sister: "Thank you for the good wishes and reminder that God is here for me. - The doctor called this morning to let me know that the lymph nodes were clean; therefore, cancer did not reach them nor is it in another part of my body. Also she got all the invasive cancer out; but there may be non-invasive cancer in the margin. The pathologist will not know for another few days. If there is non-invasive cancer in the margin, we will need to go in for another surgery. Will let you know what the outcome is.  I have an appointment with the physician's assistant next week to check the wounds and to make sure all is healing okay. Then we decide the next step."

    I thought everyone needs to hear good news like that especially when they found both ER/PR+ and Hers2+

  • chabba
    chabba Member Posts: 5,065
    edited May 2013

    Good news is always welcome and celebrated!  Cheers!!!

  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited May 2013

    Needing a calm at the end of the storm... For the ones that didn't see this post {{The yo yo goes on - My onc talked to my sleep doc and THEY decided I could take my Nuvigil (a STIMULANT) and tamoxifen even though it lessens the tamoxifen - Problem with that is I don't need any more stimulation - I need sleep!!! What were they thinking... I have a call back to each one of them and tried to explain that since the Tamoxifen I need sleep - I have no trouble staying awake!  Will probably hear back tomorrow from each of them. - BTW these doctors are great at what they do but don't know what the other is doing half the time - I'm glad they talked to each other... }}} This morning I tried the nuvigil after talking to my daughter, the chemist. She says Nuvigil might have a chemistry that helps the sleep cycle specifically and that might help. Or NOT - Shakier than ever an hour after taking it, no concentration left - feel OVERstimulated.. Anyway maybe this picture is what I need -  I just named it "the calm after the storm"

    calm after the storm

  • kathindc
    kathindc Member Posts: 2,042
    edited May 2013

    Gma, oh my another wonderful photo!  I hope your doctors can get your sleep problems under control very soon.  If only they were in our shoes, they would get their acts together.  Praying that your sister has clean margins.  ((((HUGS)))) and prayers for you and your sisters.

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited May 2013

    Gma, Someone posted on another thread that Arimidex gave her the jitters and rapid heartbeat. Her doctor prescribed Atenelol which is a beta blocker and that worked (not on the hot flashes, however).

  • FireKracker
    FireKracker Member Posts: 8,046
    edited May 2013

    Oh GmaF....i hardly respond to you but i want u to know I read every one of your posts and just love love love those calming pics you post..

    you and your sista are in my thoughts and prayers

    hugs Grannydukes

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited May 2013

    GMAF - pardon my ignoracne but what would happen if you stopped all your meds and started again after some good sleep? 

    We are given so many mega dominant drugs, they mess us up and you have more than most to contend with.....

  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited May 2013
  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited May 2013

    Lily I have been dealing with getting my sleep apnea under control - I was falling asleep on the keyboard(my work).  then found out my other sister ended up with BC and decided, my last ditch effort, to keep the BC recurrence away - Tried all the AI's and SEs were super bad - MO took me off them.  So Tamoxifen is my only thing left - started on a half dose about a week ago - But at the same time the sleep doc took me off of the Nuvigil which was keeping me awake because it lessens the effect of the tamox... Well, now the 2 docs have talked to eachother and have decided to put me back on the nuvigil .. Problem is that also hypes me up like the tamoxifen is doing - so..... I am bouncing off of walls and even though I know I'm tired, I can't sleep - 

    Ok NOW they both called me back - ONC wants me to keep taking both meds... sleep doc also but being I'm having issues she has decided she want to see me - I wonder if it is to tell me face to face why she wants me on it OR is it I am leaving her too many msgs and she wants to charge me for the conversation??? 

    Ok that was the drugs talking - I'm glad I can say anything here... I cried all the way through PT - just because no real reason.. Anyway the sleep doc moved my june appt up to this Friday.. I'm playing yo yo with my brain and not sure how much more I can take without breaking the string.... 

  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited May 2013

    Not sure how I will be feeling at 4am when I start work tomorrow so here is tomorrows picture:

    "The Sunset after the Thunderstorm"

    sunsetthunderstorm

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited May 2013

    FOLEY, love all the pics, and REALLY identified with the little budgie in the rain, so sad!!!  Ummm, I was given a drug that revved me up so bad that I couldn't even remember several weeks back in March.  I kid you not.  So, I got it down to one pill per day, cut in half, one mid-morning, one early afternoon.  NOW I can sleep when it's time.  Today I added another 1/2 in, BIG mistake.  So, I'm here to say those meds can most definitely take awake your sleep, and it is an AWFUL thing, and because i took that extra 1/2, I woke up about 3a.m., not good.  And of course it wrecks any good part of the next day!  About all I can advise you is no matter what the docs settle on, do not take any after lunch, and hopefully you'll make it thru our workday without getting sleepy AND you'll fall asleep when you're supposed to and sleep right on through.  GG 

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