Treating estrogen responsive cancer naturally

across a thread yesterday mentioning DIM increases your progesterone

THX

Not too thrilled with the thought of that.  my numbers are at 98%

Thank you,

Hi all! I found he thread I was reading yesterday about DIM and progesterone. The topic is DIM and PR+ breast cancer? In forum Complimentary and Holistic Medicine and Treatment.



This is the OP: "I am a long-time survivor who'd like to stay that way. I had been taking DIM but stopped because I read things about the owner of the particular company that gave me great pause. When I started to look around for DIM put out by other companies I noticed in the research something that escaped me earlier - DIM increases PR levels. Well my BC was ER+/PR+/HER+. I'm now wondering if I should be using it at all due to the fact that I am PR+?"



She didn't post any citations regarding her research though. And, I haven't done any research yet to verify her comments. I apologize if I've caused any alarm. It was "new" news to me and now I don't know what to believe. I guess when I feel up to more research I'll look into it. Right now, I have a 7 year old boy who is demanding my attention! LOL!



BTW, I took my first Nature's Way DIM today, along with my other supplements, and feel fine. No SEs. 😀

We are here to discuss it all.  You do us a favor by bringing it up.  Maybe its nothing - but Ill be calling my Naturopath who is a bigger reseacher than I am.  Ill report back if I hear from her tomorrow.

 Ill report back if I hear from her tomorrow.

Thank you, shayne.

What is  alarming is to see so many women popping a pill they aren't at all sure about ( might as well be taking tamoxifen or arimidex !)  we need to have the solid research - and not just by the companies who sell the product.

I have  gone to the clinical trial sites, which I trust the most, and see DIM being looked at for efficacy with some promise, but this ' progestin / progesterone'  thing IS confusing and  until it's cleared up, I am not any more comfortable taking the DIM than I would be the tammi.

First, do no harm!

DIM in another form is prescribed in Europe. There are probably more studies done in Germany (and other European countries). Germany is very advanced in alternative medicines. It would be a good place to start looking. I'm taking mine until I get this juicing thing down. Then I'll consider stopping. I'll be consuming a lot more green veggies then. :-)

Monine - I'll have to go back and check. It's been a while since I researched it. I will say that I wouldn't compare taking DIM with taking Tamox. DIM may not have the large studies behind it to prove its effecacy (although there is positive research results out there), but it also does not cause other cancers, blood clots, and the other serios SE's that Tamox can. It may not be a cure all but if you buy a quality brand, at worst you're taking something that has no effect on the cancer, and at best you'll be helping your body fight cancer, IMHO.

That someone was me! :-) Oops!

😊 I've done a little looking but haven't found anything yet. I wish the OP on the other thread had posted citations. Maybe I should re-read the entire thread.



I also didn't realize it can cause thyroid issues. 😟

 on the brownstein iodine protocol..

Not according to my excellent endocrinologist. IN FACT, she warned me against taking iodine.  I really think it is critical that people start LOOKING at who/where they are getting this info from.  Is it PubMed ?  Is it someone with a PhD ?

Please be careful, ladies.

This study just came out:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/blogs/vital-signs/os-exercise-breast-cancer,0,4739829.post

"Changes in how estrogen breaks down, or metabolizes, in women who exercise may explain why aerobic activity lowers a woman’s breast cancer risk, according to a study out of the University of Minnesota.

Scientists have long known that exercise lowers breast cancer risk, but the new study, published  in Cancer Epidemiology, Biomarkers & Prevention, a journal of the American Association for Cancer Research, sheds light on possibly why.

Women who did aerobic exercises had an increased ratio of “good” to “bad” estrogen byproducts, researchers found."

Thanks, Momine! As a regular exerciser, I like reading this kind of stuff to keep me motivated.

Purple my only understanding about thyroid issues is that they're very often under diagnosed. I have heard so many times from women who feel their thyroid is "not right" only to have all the tests come back "normal." So to your point, yes, I imagine it's very complex!

Careful ladies, when trying to access last link posted, I was warned of malware

I had just finished a marathon when I had my first diagnosis. I was very healthy, slim, and ran 45-50 miles a week. Yet, I still got cancer.

My mother thought it was because I was exercising too much and therefore depressing my immune system; thereby allowing the embryonic cancer cell to activate.

I've been using pink salt. You get the good flavor and lots of trace minerals without the iodine.

Of course, Purple, people have to use their own judgment as to what they take depending on their conditions. I was talking in general terms. Not everyone has the same health issues and like most things in life what is bad for one may fine for another. There are things that are recommended in a cancer protocol that I can't take because of my pancreas or my bones. Personally, I think that eating right is our biggest ally. The more I research what we are putting in our bodies, the more I am convinced of it. I've started juicing vegetables and am working on totally changing my diet. It may cost more to eat this way, but it will be offset by the savings in supplements. The peace of mind that things are natural and healthful whether you have cancer or not is an added bonus.