Awesome interview with Donnie Yance!

I have 10 more pages to go but I find it very interesting as well. Some is pretty technical like all the testing for genes that he talks about but it makes sense. I wonder I'd that's why chemo seems to do people in really fast every so often, because of a certain mutation they have that won't allow them to detoxify properly. That reminds me, when I went to see the holistic MD (who is also a peds oncologist for many years) he asked me if I have any problems with detoxifying. I didn't know what he meant or how I was supposed to know that. He said that not everyone detoxifies as efficiently as they should and that those people sometimes will get headaches from fumes and other symptoms.

Very intersting read joellelee. Thanks for the link.

There is so much wrong with that article that I dont even know where to begin.  Enough said.

Okay, Folks, we need to please stop with the sarcasm and nastiness here, and have respectful, courteous, and supportive conversations. Agree to disagree, and move on, please. We appreciate your help with this. 

Kindly, 

The Mods

Dear mods, I agree completely. However, I am a bit confused. I get that this is the alternative forum, reserved for discussion of alternative approaches. What I do not understand is what could possibly be offensive or wrong about questioning information, as long as it is done politely. It sometimes seems as if when something is stamped "alternative" all of it should be taken on trust and assumed to be great, no questions asked.

The article posted at the beginning of this thread contains some highly questionable "information," and it seems to me that for the sake of the general community using this site, that sensible discussion would be a positive.

Okay, so we should vandalize the chemo-pushing forums and point out the lack of evidence? Sound fair? LOL!

Vandalize? On all other forums I have seen, people frequently discuss the evidence for and against various treatments, conventional and otherwise.

If "alternative forum" means that you are not allowed to question or discuss, in any way, the veracity or reliability of information posted here, then I think the guide lines should be amended to reflect that.

This might also be advantageous for the owners of the site, since it would make it clear that anyone reading would do well to check any and all claims. In that case, I would urge the owners/mods to include in the guidelines a basic guide on how to check health claims, possibly with a few links to reliable sites, like Memorial Sloane-Kettering, Anaximperator and others.

HLB, ok, I was not talking about trials necessarily, although if such exist it would be nice to know about them. The interview at the top of this thread talks about researching  conventional medicine as well, so it would be nice to know where Yance gets the basis for his assertion that sugar triggers BRCA, to take one example. It may well do so, but I would like to know where he got that, and I have not been able to find it myself. I truly don't understand why asking such questions would be considered "trolling" or "bullying" or anything else bad.

The questioning posts were not deleted as far as I can see, nor were they rude. However, again, if the idea is that nothing in this forum should in any way be questioned or discussed, I think we need a guideline update.

There is plenty of sarcasm on both sides.  The attached article debunks surgery and comments on genetics from an Herbalist!  He is not a doctor but yet he has a whole lot of thoughts on cancer.  Does that sit well with everyone?

Momine,

You took the words right out of my mouth! I was very interested in learning about alternative tx,because I like to learn about almost everythingthing   But I have stopped trying to get info from this fourum for exactly the reasons you stated. I too believe it is totally off base to be nasty, belittle and sarcastic. However, just as with conventional medicine, questioning is a patients right!

Caryn

Momine, I agree. It shouldn't be, I don't think, but that's just me. I count on it actually, because quite frankly, I don't have the luxury of pissing around with things that are seriously questionable. I also know that chemo couldn't save my life. I'm hanging on to life by a thread. As for substantiated claims, well, that's a whole different scenario. To me, I want to hear about what works and what doesn't and any and all info regarding a particular alternative treatment from real people. The rest I can ask my doctor about or figure out for myself. Everybody's ability to google is as good a anyone else's. After all, breast cancer and who lives and dies is a crap shoot. Like you said though, there's no reason that anyone should belittle anyone else for their choices. Pointing out flaws or dangers can be done with respect. More often than not, it goes the other way. From what I remember, I don't recall you ever being disrespectful when questioning a treatment, and thank you for that, but you really do have to admit that a handful are. I don't think specifically pointing those posts out would serve any purpose other than to start an argument. People can decide for themselves who reacts with respect and concern and those who come to troll. It was a hard lesson for me to learn and a difficult thing to swallow, but I've learned to keep my mouth shut when someone blatantly just wants to get a rise out of someone. I've learned not to give them the pleasure.