DIEP 2013
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Thank you everyone for your insight, it helps a lot knowing I'm not alone. Just chugged my last bit of water for a while, need to check into the hospital by 8am tomorrow. I'll post after surgery when I'm in my own room after ICU. Bye for now, I'll be back soon!
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Lmo- you will do great, rest well tonight and we will all send you lots of prayers and good energy.
Look forward to hearing from you on the other side)
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Good night sweet diep sisters. I have a 530 am appointment with Dr. Baron and Dr. Kline. Thanks for your wisdom. The new girls and I will see you on the flip side:)
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CRS,
5:30? Wow! I've always had 8 or 9 am surgeries with Dr K. Time to hit the hay for sure.
How did pre ops go today? Hope you had time for a beach walk.
Thinking of you tomorrow and smooth sailing. -
Lmo45- good luck and positive thoughts to you for tomorrow. ((( hugs )))
Crs319- u will do great tomorrow, good luck! (((hugs)))
Sbelizabeth- cant believe u r on a bike 2 weeks out! Congrats!
All of you that r posting post op are an inspiration to me, can only hope I do as well in July!
I can totally relate to the idea of reconnecting with your body. I was a uni boober for 2 years, then I had a prophylactic mx in 2010 on other side.
I was originally scheduled for bilateral DIEP in 2009 but a month before surgery I had a recurrence. So, after radiation I was told I wasn't a candidate for reconstruction. A year and a half ago my original oncologist retired and I got a new, younger, female oncologist who referred me to a plastic surgeon for TE and implants. Turns out I wasn't a candidate for that so that PS referred me to her partner for DIEP. I cried when she said she would do the surgery that I wasn't sure I wanted. I know now that I can't wait for the new girls! I can't wait to not look at my chest and be reminded everyday of what I've been through! I can't wait to shop for clothes that I've been avoiding for so long!
Sorry for rambling but you all excite me!
Cheers,
Sherry -
Lmo45 and crs319 good luck tomorrow. I know everything will go fine. It will just feel like a 5 minute nap and hoping for a painless recovery!
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CRS & LMO - you've got this - we are in your pockets and eagerly awaiting your first "post-DIEP" update. Enjoy your nap and the drugs.... heehee
Thank you, Heavenschild. I think everyone in my house including me needed reminding that though I am back at work, I am not ready for my usual schedule yet! I definitely am trying to cut back a bit now and rest when I can. My DH (yes - they are living up to their vows!) told me to go back to sleep Monday morning and he got up, sent the girls off to school, emptied the dishwasher and cleaned up the kitchen before getting ready to leave for work himself.
Marty - thank you for the all that compression info! So this may be a stupid question - if you use a crotchless or split crotch compression garment - Would you wear underwear under it? Or would do you need several of them so you can keep washing them....? TMI???
Sherry - so excited for you that after all of that you can get some new "natural" girls!
Post it notes are hysterical! What a very fun idea! Maybe I'll give that a go at my Stage 2 in June.
Hugs ladies!Jeannie
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liefie: My surgery is scheduled for 5/24, just a few days after yours. When scheduled it seemed so far away. Now it is really speeding up on me. I, too, and anxious. Not sure I'm ready, but just have to proceed.
nihahi: So glad to hear you are home and healing.
sbelizabeth: also, sounds like you are doing well.
Lmo45- good luck and best wishes for tomorrow
Crs319- u will do great tomorrow, good luck!I'll be thinking of you both.
I have to admit I'm a little scared. Fighting off the excuses. Reading here is both inspiring and scary. With all my complications being the reason I am headed to DIEP, I'm worried.
It is realistic to think I can return to light duty work, at a desk, even part time after 4 wks?
Driving? Walking? Cooking? I am so worried about all my daily stuff. Is my summer ruined? Or, will I get to be out in the sun, resting in my garden for a few weeks before returning to work. Bike riding? Jogging?
What clothes will I wear? Will I need to go shopping?
I'm missing two major meetings for work, a three day, two night conference near home, but still have to stay overnight in hotel. Dates are 6/4 - 6/6. It is about an hour drive from home. I can't imagine I would be able to attend, but really really hate to miss this particular annual conference. There is never a good time for being off work................ I actually responded with a tentative "yes", knowing full well I won't be able to attend. Or, can I? What say you ladies? If surgery is May 24, no complications, anyone suppose I might be able to rtw after just 11 days to drive one hour, sleep in a hotel, sit for 8 hrs, eat and socialize, then doe it again sit for 8 hrs the next day, then drive home one hour? I'm crazy to even think about it?
Nervousness........setting in.
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Lmo and CRS-best wishes for an uneventful surgery and a rapid recovery! You are both in my thoughts......when we hear from you again it will be from the "other side"
Stay strong! You both can do this!
To all my DIEP sisters: "TOWANDA!"
Will check in tomorrow.....happy sleeping!
Namaste and God bless - Jackie -
She chirple. I would say no. It would just be exhausting. Physically you can do all those things but the duration is a lot. Two full days? I would say I would have been able to do one third one day and one third the next. Resting in between.
Gini. You can wear no panties or wear them over the garment and pull just those down for the bathroom. I bought some that were bigger so they'd fit over the compression garment. -
Gini - as Betsy said, just wear a pair of underwear over the garment. I wore my own underwear and they fit perfectly - no need for larger panties. I actually purchased some one size larger on the suggestion of others, but they were too big. Because I wear compression 24 hours a day, I have several garments in 3 sizes. Today I get to order a new one without the zippers used immediately post surgery.
She chirple - this is one surgery where you reallly, really need to give yourself time to heal. That involves rest. While we all heal differently, I can say that at 11 days post DIEP I still had 4 drains, showers and dressing were tiring, I was still taking pain killers (thus no driving). I had trouble focusing on the conversations with friends, I would definitely not been able to concentrate on a conference. I do think returning to light duty at work will be possible - half days then expand. Your summer won't be ruined. You will be walking. Probably jogging at 6 weeks (gotta protect the new girls without compressing them in a sprots bra). Maybe biking before. My inclination would be to pass on the conferences and give yourself the 4 weeks to heal and get ready to go back to work.
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What a difference each week truly makes! I'm 6 weeks post op today and I walked 1 mile this morning with no problems and I feel great - no aches or pains or feeling winded like the last two weeks. But even better than that I walked 1/2 mile with the wind at my back and then I turned around to walk back into the wind - it's 17 mph today here! It was much tougher walking back but very doable and as I said I feel great. All those endorphins working on me! I can feel my jogging days coming back soon!
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Goodie so happy to hear that, I am walking everyday and get frustrated that I get tired so quickly, I am able to walk more each day but need to rest between morning and afternoon walk.
Even showering is a long production that could last about 1 to 1 1/2 hours to accomplish! Nice to hear others are back to exercise))
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Marcie - I was the same way at 2 weeks. I didn't realize how much a shower could wear me out! LOL It would take me at least an hour to complete. I would lay out my clothes. Take a break sitting down. Quickly shower because it hurt to stand too long. Get out with towels and sit down again for a few minutes. Dry off and get my clothes on. Sit down again for a few minutes. Etc.... You too will be back to exercise! I honestly thought I'd be further along but I'm okay with taking it slow. I don't want to rush it and set myself back either.
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Well crap...was doing so good yesterday. This morning, must have just tweaked something, now having back spasms all across my upper back. Not pleasant, I will admit! Waiting for the muscle relaxant, and Tylenol, and ice to kick in.
Sending positive thoughts to those having their sx today.
Movie...hope your appt goes well and you can make plans for stage 2 that work for you. -
Our two DIEP sisters are in a deep sleep and making their way through surgery.....keeping good thoughts for them!
Nihahi-sorry about you back....hope it settles down SOON!
I go in for pre-stage 2 today......should be be getting a date......
Namaste and God bless - Jackie -
Two sillly things . . .
Calf Muscles - did/does anyone have really tight calf muscles after this surgery? Mine are killing me. Both sides and in the same spot on both legs. Just weird.
Belly Button - I just put a call into my PS's office. Yesterday, I took the bandage off my bellybutton that the kind nurse who came the day before put on. It was stained green. I know these belly buttons take time to heal. So I decided I would just gently flush it out with the water they included in my drain kit to take home. This is what the nurse did. So now no more green thank goodness and discharge is at a minimum but the belly button is really red (although it looks nice) - especially on one edge. I emphasized in my message to the PS office that I didn't really consider this an ER type of situation (they love to send you to the ER in Canada).
I am already on prophylactic antibiotics for the drains - so I'm not sure what much more they can do. I've heard about "and infected suture" being a potential cause but I just wondered what experience you all have had with such a thing - if any.
Goodie - I'm proud of you, girl! You'll be jogging in no time.
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CRS and LMO, thinking of you today as you are in the throes of this surgery. Will watch your progress with lots of interest. Best wishes for a speedy, uneventful recovery!
SheChirpie, yes, surgery date is approaching like a freight train now, isn't it? We are just normal being apprehensive at this stage. It is not a walk in the park for sure, but once out on the other side, we will be so happy we had it done. I am just trying to stay busy, getting my house in order, cooking/freezing some dishes ahead, making my bedroom as comfortable as I can, acquiring some loose clothing and undergarments, as well as few light novels to read afterwards. Brain won't be able to process anything strenuous - lol. For the rest I am exercising hard to get as strong as I can. Hugs to you!
When I read how long it can take to shower after DIEP, I'm seriously considering to have a TV installed in my shower - lol. As I had a hysterectomy just a year ago, and a mastectomy 5 weeks after that, I know what you are talking about. There is no rushing this; slowly does it. I remember lying down on my bed to get my breath back after each activity . . . it is what it is.
It also cheers me up to hear that I can begin walking and even run slowly at 6 weeks out. It will be summer then, and lovely to be outside. A good day to you all!
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@HHCats, I had a leg massaging thingy wrapped on my legs right before the surgery started. After surgery, they pluged it in and started the massage. I had them with me for a couple of days while in the hospital (you can take them off anytime you need to). I think they were exepecting tightness and were trying to counter it with massage.
When my navel was acting up and when my ab-incision opened up, I sent pictures to my ps and he would email back with instruction for the home care nurse. Hope you can do the same.
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Tammyt,
The calf compression is to prevent blood clots.
I had those as well as hospital bed mattress that gently inflated and deflated at intervals to help with this as well. -
Just came back from PS. I got a couple of blisters on my breasts from the tape that he's concerned about. He gave me some antibiotics on cream to put on twice a day. He'll see me again next week and see how it's healing. He's concerned that it might affect the shape, but if it does he can probably fix it with fat injections.
Has anyone done a lowering of the scar on stage 2? My PS was talking about it, but I don't think I want to go there if its going to take me another 6-8 weeks to recover. I don't mind about lipo, but having to cut my stomach open again doesn't seem like a very good idea.
The incision on my belly bottom opened up a little, but it will end up closing by itself. And...... I got my last drain out!!! I feel like a human being again without having to carry anything extra from my body. I might even go get the kids from school today since nobody will ask me what the drains are for. I miss being a mom and my kids miss me too. Last night my eldest was so happy that I went up the stairs to kiss them goodnight. It's made my night! -
HHcats-my belly button is very red-they said that it is an allergy to the bacitracin they had me putting on. Now putting on a light cortizone anti-itch cream around but not in the BB
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For those of you who have not yet had your DIEP recon, I just want to say it was not nearly as rough as I thought it would be, but I owe that to my wonderful PS who has pain control down to a fine art.
Don't get me wrong, it is HUGE surgery, but I considered it a big initial investment in time, discomfort, and recovery for a HUGE payoff in the end: soft, warm, natural looking and feeling breasts. My new girls look great, even after going back in for a re-excision on the left side for a dirty margin. PS was in on that surgery as well as my BS.
I'm very happy I had this surgery! Can't wait to see the end result after Stage 2 and 2b!
I am now 8 weeks out and just went back to work on partial hours this week, 5 hours per day for 2 weeks, then full time. I am a nurse in a busy clinic, PS says all his nurse pts are off work 8 weeks due to the nature of the job. I also have lifting restrictions as well. My PS is very conservative and I am glad. I was very tired after the first day back, even after only 5 hours, so am very glad he insisted that I transiiton back to work on partial hours. On the other hand, I feel I probably could have gone back at 6 weeks if I had a desk job.
For the lady considering going to a work conference at 11 days post op, just let me say that I barely remember the first 10 days after my surgery. Between the long anesthesia and the pain meds, I was very foggy. I thought I was very aware and alert at the time, but looking back I was not at all. It was exhausting just to get a shower and dress myself at that point. No way I could have driven, and it would have been dangerous to do so. I required a lot of help at home for the first few days and was lucky to have my sister-in-law, mother, and two grown daughters to pitch in until I was two weeks post op so DH could go back to work. Couldn't have done it without them.
I feel it is very important to follow your Dr's instructions to the letter and not take any unnecessary chances so that no harm comes to the integrity of the new flaps during the initial post op period. I was cautioned that if I fainted or otherwise fell, I could lose one or both. That's not to say I did not exercise after I got home by walking a bit daily in my neighborhood, but I had someone with me at all times to make sure I was steady on my feet.
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Also, just let me say that I am totally in awe of you ladies who are mothers to small children while going down this path. I cannot even imagine what that must be like, and I sometimes tear up when I read posts like one above by my TX neighbor, kuka21, about going upstairs days after her surgery to kiss her children good night.
All you younger ladies are my heroes!
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Kuka - I had my ab incision lowered at Stage 2. Not a problem at all. My surgery was 18 days ago and I went for a 2 mile walk this morning. Actually the lipo was more painful. Those bruises are slowly going away, but I think it will take another week. Stage 2 is a totally different kind of surgery and recovery is different.
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Thanks, Pinkheart. That makes sense.
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Heavenschild, good advice. We are all different. We heal at different rates, our doctors have very different approaches to post-op care, and I believe the one common piece of advice we can all share is "be gentle with yourself, both physiclally and emotionally."
Of course we need to push ourselves a bit with moving and being up and around. We need to think of ourselves as being on the road to recovery, not helpless patients. But this is a big surgery, and listening to our bodies is important.
Right now, though, my body is saying, "if you would just take off these tight, uncomfortable bra and panties, you would feel so much better!" And of course, I wearing nothing of the kind, it's just the incisions barking at me.
My PS has said nothing of compression garments. Do they help with the post-op zinginess, or are they to prevent swelling?
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sbelizabeth - they can help with the swelling and generally make me feel more, well, supported. I just ordered a new garment from Marena Group. had a great conversation with Margarita on their staff and she pointed me to their Shapzme and athletic compression as it is made from the same fabric with the same compression as the post surgical garments. Thinking a pair of leggings or compression yoga pants might just be a good option for my trip to California.
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Ironmagnolia, is for those little ones that I had this surgery. Everyday I try to do a little more, while listening to my body, so that I can be there for them. They have been amazing through out all of this, including my 2 year old. She comes to me everyday and asks me if I still have boo boos and if they hurt. After I tell her yes she tells me they'll be better in a little bit. Believe me, I'm not a hero at all, but my kids are!!!
MartyJ, you're such a strong woman. I can't even contemplate the idea of te opening my tummy incision, and you went for a 2 mile walk?! Wow!!!!! -
Kuka - when you get around to Stage 2 in a few months you will really feel differently. Like I said - that was the easiest part.
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