Faslodex Girls
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Mkkjd60 -- I've only been on Faslodex for about 1 1/2 mos, but I had 2 different chemo regimens prior to that -- Taxotere & cytoxan in 2009, and 5 rounds of Doxil after my recent mets diagnosis. As far as how it's worked -- too early to tell -- tumor markers have dropped slowly but steadily, but I have had pain increase. Actually, tomorrow I find out the scan results to see if there's been any progression since starting Fas. I'll post back tomorrow to let you know, but I do recall others saying earlier in this thread that Fas can take something like 4-6 months to work.
Hope that answers some of your questions. Hope your mom has a good run on it...some ladies on here have had great success on it, and it's a very tolerable treatment. -
Mkkjd60
I had 16 infusions of chemo with my diagnoses of stage 2 back in '08. You can see the drugs and treatments in my signature below. My stage 4 was diagnosed in May '12. I have been on Flaslodex since August and yes it did take some time to start working. I see my Dr in May, I hope the wait will be worth it!. We maybe layering another treatment on to it. However, back in January the scans were a mixed bag of is it working or not.... the tumor board at my heath care re evaluated all the tests, labs and scans and came up with try it a bit longer...fingers crossed all is good.
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Faslodex has been working for me for almost two years and I am very grateful! My last CT scan came back and I'm still stable--thank Heaven!
I haven't had any hair loss or thinning. I wouldn't mind some weight loss but, my appetite is as good as ever!
Unfortunately, I have arthritis and spondylolesthesis (vertebrae slippage & pinched nerve) that causes me much more pain than the spine cancer or the faslodex side effects. It's so frustrating. I can't walk for very long and have to use a scooter for vacation spots like "Disney World." I see a pain specialist and have been trying different medications. Of course, my health insurance keeps trying to dictate and deny certain meds that my doctors would like me to try. Double the frustration.
It seems like Stage IV cancer should be enough for anyone. It feels so unfair to have additional health problems yet, many of us do.
((((((My heart, thoughts and hugs go out to all of my fellow faslodex girls.)))))
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Aerial and all the rest that have "other health issues"
Health care, insurance and the total health care industry have no idea how stage 4 effects our lives and the lives of the people we love. We truly do not need the extra aggravation of dealing with red tape, paper work and denial of care. We are only trying to live as normal as possible.
Thats my soap box for the day. Thanks for letting me rant.
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Hi everyone,
I have a question about Faslodex.
I keep reading on posts that "Faslodex takes longer to work"--what is meant by that, exactly? My CA 27 29 tumor marker went down to 58 on Afinitor(about 80 points in 6 weeks).
I know we're all individuals and will be affected differently-- but just wondering what this "takes longer to work" thing is that I seem to keep running into. Is there a general truth to this?
Thanks, and best to all!
edit 4/20/2013
oh, scratch that--found some answers:
http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/8/topic/722136
thanks!
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Bless you Aerial--and all!
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Hi everyone, I am feeling a little sorry for my self this last week anyways. Had ct with progression of liver mets, back pain is back, hip hurts too. Was on arimidex and zometa for a year. I sure hoped to get more then a year out of it. Onc says we will change it up. I will start Faslodex next week, Any words of advice or what to expect. I am also worried about quiting my arimidex if faslodex takes a while to start working! Onc said i could do Radiation to back for pain but so far Motrin helps, so don't want to go there yet. I would if he really wanted me to but only if needed. Thanks for listening. I will try to get off my pitty party. Redroan
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Redroan,
I am sorry to her you have had a progression. Some times they layer faslodex with other hormone inhibitors, so you may be able to continue arimidex. Faslodex is an easy treatment considering what others can do to you! I also had radiation to my right hip and my spine last summer. What a difference it made! The pain is gone and CT scan in Dec showed improvement in both areas that had radiation.
Pitty Party understood, take care
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Hi gals,
Haven't posted for awhile going for shot Monday now on faslodex since November. Go for bone scan and Ct scan on May 13th to see if fasoldex is working. Kind of worried it's not working. Found bone met in leg and lung last scan I had. Having pain in leg and shortness of breath. Not looking forward to scans. It's hard not to get depressed we gals go through so much. I pray faslodex will help, sometimes I just start crying and feel sorry for myself. I know I have to think positive but sometimes it's hard. -
Boo. Just had my PET scan and picked up the results.
The lymph nodes in my anterior mediastinum (behind my sternum) have increased in SUV from 10 to 18 and have grown, although not measured.
I also have a new FDG avid lymph node in my left supraclavicular region.
I have been on Faslodex for a year and Herceptin for 9 years.
Also now have high BP. Will see my onc and PCP in 2 days.
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Joining the club -- I had my first shots today. Nurse was great. The meds came up warm, and we strategized about how to relax the buttock muscle. I had to remember to keep relaxing whilst she was giving the shot. It barely hurt at all. Yay!
Now to hope I don't see more than minor side-effects from it.
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Hi girls,
I've been getting Faslodex for 2 years now, ever since the second occurrence of breast cancer (we think it was a new primary) while I was in the midst of Tamoxifen, which obviously wasn't working.
Anyway, aside from various relatively minor-but-annoying side effects, Fas hasn't given me any trouble. Today was a different story. WHILE the shots were going in I started to feel REALLY REALLY strange, like I was lightheaded, tingly, about to faint, couldn't think straight, hard to describe, even. The nurse brought me to a chair where things didn't get any better, and within 5 minutes or so I was hyperventilating and needed IV meds. They also gave me a steroid to counteract whatever reaction I had had from the Faslodex. I didn't even know I was getting to the point of hyperventilating--I guess I was starting to freak out at the feeling that I was having, and wanting something to be done about it.
Has anybody experienced anything like this? I apologize if this topic has already been discussed--I haven't taken the time to read through the many pages of this topic. They're talking about pre-medicating me next time, like with Claritin or Benadryl, to see if that takes care of it. I don't know, I just know that it was kind of scary to suddenly have no control over my body like that. And it's weird that it happened now, after 2 uneventful years with the drug.
Thanks,
Amy
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Amy,
I have had waves of nausea, and have had a "faint" kind of feeling, but nothing as dramatic as what you are describing. I too have been getting faslodex for two years and have only had these minor responses a couple of times. Last month was a bit rough, so I will be interested to see how this month goes.
Did this feel like an allergic reaction? I would hate to add pre-meds to my monthly visits, but better than not getting the drug.
*susan*
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Sorry, did a double post! Editing to remove.
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I don't know if it felt like an allergic reaction or not. It was sudden and intense, and WAY out of the ordinary. Is that what an allergic reaction feels like? LOL. I don't know when it turned from being what the Faslodex did to the hyperventilating. My onc said that I got to the hyperventilating stage quickly because my lung capacity is really strong (I work out intensely 6-10 hours per week) and I was able to push a lot of air fast. It was strange, though, I had no idea I was doing it. I just thought I was sitting there feeling weird, and the next I knew I couldn't feel my feet and hands, or talk, or do anything. Not an experience I want to repeat! I do hate to add pre-meds, though, esp. if it means I have to have a driver afterwards. Then that just makes a huge issue out of the annoyance of double-butt shots every month.
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Yea. That is an adverse reaction to be sure. Would scare the h*ll out of me. Maybe someone else has had this happen, but I think I am the person on this thread who has been on Faslodex the longest. I am so very sorry that this has happened. You are right, after benadryl, you probably shouldn't be driving. Ugh. Bad enough we have to go to the hospital every 28 days, getting a driver to waste their morning is just plain annoying.
*susan*
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Amy,
That IS scary, particularly out of the blue after all this time. It sure sounds like an allergic reaction to me. Are you taking any new meds? Faslodex has no known drug interactions, but there certainly could be unknown ones. I hope your medical team reports this to Astra Zeneca, and that pre-medication prevents another episode. It's a drag to have a driver, I know, but far preferable to another frightening incident. Yikes, it makes me woozy just to read your description.
Tina
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Aimster, I have had the same reaction twice. The first time I felt a strange sensation come over my body. Lightheaded. The second time was just as you explained. I almost fainted, blood pressure low 88/64. I have had 5 shots since with no problem. My onc thinks it is psychological like needle stress. It is a lot of medication at once and I weigh 113 so I think my body is having so sort of reaction, but who knows. I hope you feel better next time. Oh, and since the onc thought it was stress/anxiety I take an Ativan an hour before my appointment now.
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Tina72,
Did you have these responses in consecutive months, or just randomly? This all seems so very scary to me and I am sorry that the two of you have had these experiences.
*susan*
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Hi gals
It sounds to me like an anxiety or panic attack. Years ago it happened to me I thought I was having a stroke hands and feet went numb and also my tongue this was before I had breast cancer. I take remeron for panic attacks been on it for years. I still panic when I go for scans. Hope it is not the faslodex making you feel like that. -
Had my every 3 month CT and Bone scans a few weeks ago, and they show that the tumors have once again shrunk. I had my 16th treatment. I asked the oncologist how long is the longest person she's had on Faslodex/Zometa. She told me 5 years, but the average is a year. I'm hoping that I'm longer than the year (that would be June for me) on this treatment. It has side effects, but they are managable. I have our youngest's high school graduation is June, my husband's 50th birthday in August, our older daughter's wedding Labor Day weekend, and our 30th wedding anniversary in Oct. Big year this year. I'd like to feel good for all those special occasions, and pray this treatment keeps on working!
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Susan, it was the second time and the fourth time I had the shots. I have been on faslodex for 10 month now. My biggest side effect is I am exhausted for 3-4 days after the shots other than that pretty easy even with the femara.
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Hi I also had experienced a cough that lasted for almost a year! Worried also that it may be lung mets but after looking over the common side effects list on Faslodex it lists "cough" as a side effect. I did have a PET scan to assure on other envolvement than bone.
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Hi all,
Thanks for all the responses! I know that it was at least in part an anxiety thing, because I did hyperventilate. But it seems like at first it was something having to do with the shot itself, because it came out of the blue and I've had them so many times before, I have no idea why I would suddenly be worried about it.
The day after, though, I was all light-headed and woozy again, and couldn't teach my classes at the gym and had to have somebody drive me home. The onc nurse told me to drink electrolytes and call back if it didn't work--it didn't, I did, and she told me to take an Ativan and a Benadryl. Out COLD for the rest of the day, and woke up today feeling totally nauseated and horrible. I'm going back in today to see if the onc has any magic for me. Taking an Ativan beforehand sounds reasonable to me. They're talking about having me take a steroid and a Claritin beforehand. I don't know, I'm all confused! I'll see what he says today. He's the world's best doctor, so he may have something to help. I'm not sure why I feel so gross.
Thanks all, I'll keep you posted,
Amy
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Back from the onc, no magic. He thinks that I felt something weird in the shot (they've reported the batch to the company that they got it from) and then became anxious and hyperventilated with great efficiency, lol. Never knew I could do that! He connected it, though, with the fact that I had just told him (in my appointment before the shot) about my friend who died a few weeks ago of breast cancer, somewhat unexpectedly, and thinks that maybe that incident is/was bothering me more than I wanted to let on to myself. I guess that's entirely possible. If that's the case, it's kind of scary how my body jumped to panic mode without my permission!
Still no explanation as to why I feel completely crappy for the 2 days following, though. It's possible that whatever was wrong with the shot is still lurking in my system. That was an idea he threw out there, but he also didn't sound too convinced by it.
I'm certainly open to any thoughts on all of this, though. In any case, it's been really wonderful just having you guys listen and respond. How I love my fellow survivors!
Amy
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Pajim, I too had my first shot last tuesday. I didn't think it was to bad either. Wondering now what to expect. When do side effects start. Nausea today. But had stressful night with youngest son.(concussion)! So not real sure if its med or stress. Hope you do well.
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Hi Redroan, still no problems. I have a few weird aches and pains, but since I'm recovering from a major back operation I chalk everything up to that. Hoping for both our sakes that you just have stress. Also that your son is OK and that you have the necessary meds in the house.
When I asked my onc abot side-effects from this he said "aside from a pain in the a--", shrug. It was quite comforting to me, but others have had real problems.
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Pajim, HOpe your back heals fast, and surgery was a successful one. My boy is doing great! So I am releived, Hope things keep going well for both of us.
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Any tips for mild, low-level nausea? I have a cast-iron stomach and so far never get to the throwing-up stage, but the queasiness is icky.
I'd rather not start taking serious drugs if I can help it. Ginger capsules and ginger chews/saltines have satisfactorily addressed this until recently, when it seems to be occuring more frequently. I'd be happy for other hints. My onc prescribed compazine ages ago, but I looked it up and concluded it would be like using a sledgehammer to take out a gnat, so I haven't taken it.
Thoughts?
Tina
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Tina, my nausea is not generally ongoing, but no question it can be there for several days post injection. I do eat some candied ginger, and then my favorite go-to, chicken soup. I don't do the canned or boxed, but homemade. Something about chicken broth with just a bit of something in there makes me feel better. I never, ever loose my appetite.
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