April 2013 Chemo Group

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  • Irene1975
    Irene1975 Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2013

    Well I finished my first chemo! On the way home and feeling ok. Drank almost a gallon of water while I was there. Here's to a hopefully smooth and not so rough weekend. 5 more to go!



    Well wishes to you all.



    Irene1975

  • PamelaKay
    PamelaKay Member Posts: 107
    edited April 2013

    Rosina, aren't you glad your DH didn't decide to call you "Buzzard" (a bird that is actually bald) instead of Eagle! Laughing

    MinusTwo, I'm so sorry about the recurrance. That STINKS like a pit toilet on a hot summer day! Do you know yet if this means you will lose your implants? I will send thoughts your way of the chemo dissolving those tumors to nothing. 

    I was feeling low the other night and kept having this song fragment go through my head for my own personal pitty party. I decided it's my theme song for the month. It's from the Beach Boys' song Sloop John B:

    So hoist up the John B’s sail
    See how the mainsail sets
    Call for the captain ashore
    Let me go home, let me go home
    I wanna go home, let me go home
    Why don't you let me go home--
    hoist up the John B’s sail--
    I feel so broke up, I wanna go home,
    Let me go home

    The poor cook he caught the fits
    And threw away all my grits
    And then he took and he ate up all of my corn
    Let me go home
    Why don't they let me go home,
    This is the worst trip I’ve ever been on

    So hoist up the John B’s sail, ladies, and let's head home!

  • heather214
    heather214 Member Posts: 142
    edited April 2013

    Paulachiz & Rosina, WELCOME!

    Goingforward, hoping (fingers crossed) you do well after your treatment, you made it!

    I am doing pretty well with my wig: because I cut it short before I shaved it off, and my wig is short - most people just think I went a little shorter (pixie wig) and went back to blonde. I bought several of the same one, hoping they don't go out of production, LOL, since I am getting chemo before and after, it will be a long haul.

    Thought for the day: ~The path to fearless living goes straight through roadblocks, not around them~

    Hoping everyone is doing well today, because one day at a time is all I can deal with right now. =)

  • Schoenme
    Schoenme Member Posts: 4
    edited April 2013

    Hello all!  I'm trying really hard to hoist up my sail!  Two questions:

    1. Anyone doing FEC?

    2. Nurse suggested Claritin D and not regular Claritin.......??  Now I'm confused as everyone here says NO to the D.

    Wishing you all a peaceful evening.  Me, I'll be preparing for an early day Friday for my port and node biopsy.

  • jc254
    jc254 Member Posts: 439
    edited April 2013

    Well I made it to one week past my first TC treatment and I'm feeling pretty good!  Even had a good and productive day at work.  The first week was pretty rocky both physically and emotionally, but I'm hoping the next two weeks are normal before I start again. 

    Welcome to the new ladies, you've found a new home full of supportive women who get what you're going through.  I found it's a great place to conduct my frequent late night pity parties.  Feel free to join me.

  • BeHereNow
    BeHereNow Member Posts: 222
    edited April 2013

    Welcome, Paula! I'm sorry you have cancer, but glad you have joined us! This is a great group of women!



    Irene- keep us posted! Stay hydrated and rinse your mouth with salt/baking soda water after each meal and at bedtime! Keep us posted!



    Virginia- good luck with the hair loss. I'm totally getting used to it now. It, too, is doable :)



    Welcome Rosina- look forward to getting to know you!



    Kim- was going to just have the short haircut, but it was still falling out in clumps and was quite annoying. So, I got it shaved. It is much more comfortable and I'm adjusting well.



    Today was my day 4 after chemo #2. Nausea and fatigue are bothering me. Taste buds off. A little weepy (I have no idea why--but suspect its the work/breast cancer tx balance. It's overwhelming at times!



    Love to all...



    P.S. mashed sweet potatoes with coconut milk are smooth and yummy for upset tummies. Worked great for me tonight.



  • anne11595
    anne11595 Member Posts: 101
    edited April 2013

    Hi everyone today was a lot better day ! Not great but not sick.Got my shot to day.They we a little surprised that I had got sick on the first day of chemo!

    Indenial ,I sure they gave steroid in the IV.But not sure what else. I will be sure to ask next time.It would be nice to know.I think they told me but im sure I had prechemo brain.

    Hope everyone is having good nite.

  • goingforward99
    goingforward99 Member Posts: 25
    edited April 2013

    Well, it's been 8 hours since my last post. I felt fine for a awhile but then started feeling nauseous and didn't want to eat, very unusual for me!  I also have what feels to be a sinus headache. I have not vomited, just kinda felt like it,  so I'm not sure if I should take a compozine tonight. My MO wants me to take on in the morning for the next 3 days whether I think i need it or not. I'm getting my Nuelasta shot tomorrow. I can't sleep and I feel just awful. Sorry for the complaining...Irene G.

  • jc254
    jc254 Member Posts: 439
    edited April 2013

    Irene, this is the place to complain. No apologies necessary. I was told by my oncologist to take the meds at the first sign of nausea, not to wait until nausea had gotten the best of me.  I'm sorry you're feeling so badly. 

  • Rosina0015
    Rosina0015 Member Posts: 49
    edited April 2013

    Irene - I hope you feel better soon. I too vomit my first day of chemo. I even take my premeds but just happens for me. Hang in there. My mom name is also Irene. She was in our boat last year and is doing great now. She hugs me and says "tomorrow will be better than today". I hope this true for you.

  • Rosina0015
    Rosina0015 Member Posts: 49
    edited April 2013

    Does anyone have these weird side effects??



    1. Skin discoloration - as on dark spots on face. My chin has gotten darker.



    2. Tongue problems- it feels raw. Like I sucked on pineapple all day. Also seems I can't taste much. I was licking a soft serve cone today and couldn't really taste it.



    Also I'm calling doc tomorrow cause I'm wondering if I've got thrush - tongue is clear but little patches of white on my gums. Hmmmm.....

  • Virginger
    Virginger Member Posts: 111
    edited April 2013

    Irene...get some Ginger Candy...I got a bag at the health food store and keep it my 'chemo  kit' i carry with me.....really helped me when I had those nausea feelings...

    I thought I had thrush too...lost my voice...Dr called in a script for pills I'm taking for two weeks and a special mouth wash...seems to have help....

  • sarilda
    sarilda Member Posts: 4
    edited April 2013

    Hi,

    Just had my 2nd infusion last Thursday (Adriamycin/Cytoxan).  Hit me like a ton of bricks.  I have this low-grade queasiness constantly... whether on the meds or not.  I was extremely weak this time too.... to the point where I thought I was going to pass out a few times.

    They gave me the Scopamine patch to try this time (the patch that goes behind your ear and is used for seasickness).  This gave me such a "drugged out" feeling, and it didn't really help with the nausea.   Has anyone else tried this?

  • dede707
    dede707 Member Posts: 48
    edited April 2013

    Good morning dear ones. 

    It has been a while since I got on the board, although I have been reading and sending you all my love and prayers. I had Chemo #2 on Monday and have been sleeping on and off for most of the week. I am thrilled that I was not inflicted with the yucky SEs from #1. I feel like the probiotics and other GI prep stuff and greatly helped. This time, my white blood cell count was still high, but they still gave me the Neulasta. I took Clartin again (not D). and advils and a vicodin and did not have the issues I had the first time. My bones are sore, but nothing like the last time. I did not get super sad this time either... all around a better head space. I pray this will continue for the next cycles. Because if it is just fatigue, I can deal. The yucky GI and headaches make me sad and crazy. I am starting to bruise a bit more- I don't have a port. Any good suggestions for protein (when you don't want to eat?)

    Luckily, my folks were here to help my children get to and from school so I could sleep. It took off a lot of pressure from my DH too. My hair is completely gone- I ended up shaving right before chemo #2 because the buzz stuff was itchy and starting to go. I keep thinking I need to wash my hair...not. Now that it has been 10 days since no hair, I am sporting the topless look at home and my kids don't even blink. My little guy (5) would like me to wear my funny hair to school though. It is hard going out and having people stare a bit longer. I figured if I hold it together, I am educating people. My hubby told me I'm doing this whole cancer/chemo thing with such grace- I feel like an imposter and just putting on a face. 

    Last night, I woke up- full moon- and thought- How did I get here? This is not my life! (Talking Heads Song). I can't wait to get my life back.  Today, I am going to the American Cancer Society Feel Good Look Better workshop. I pray I keep my eyelashes and eyebrows. 

    I know this post was all about me, but I want you to know, I read and think of each of you. Today, I am going to think of all of you ladies and I'm sending healing thoughts and gentle hugs to each of you. Onward- we can do this! 

  • VeganNicole
    VeganNicole Member Posts: 25
    edited April 2013

    Hey Ladies - I had my first chemo treatment yesterday (A/C) and am being productive today before I have to get my Neulasta shot. I just wanted to quickly post about two things I just learned about which you may already be aware of - but you may not be. 

    Brian Joseph's Lash and Brown Conditioning Gel: http://brianjosephs.com/html/lash_brow_conditioning_gel.html

    A gal I met at a Young Survivors Coalition meetup on Monday told me about it and she just finished her treatments and still has all of her eyebrows and eyelashes!  There's $10 shipping but honestly $60 to keep my brows and lashes? Fine by me!

    Elasto-Gel Chemotherapy Hypothermia Cranial Helmet - from Amazon

    This is one of a few types of cold caps you put on your head to make your hair folicles resistant to the effects of the chemo. I guess you need to buy a bunch of them, but there's a company that rents them out, too. It sounds very cold and a bit painful, and perhaps it's too late to use them once we've started chemo, but I thought I'd pass it along just so people can say they've heard of it. I guess I just assumed it was a given that my hair would have fall out. No one ever mentioned this to me! 

  • CarolA5587
    CarolA5587 Member Posts: 26
    edited April 2013

    Hi, ladies! I'm at home from work because my white blood cell count was so low on Wednesday that I can not risk being around those germy kids at school. I didn't have the Neulasta shot this time but it's now on the plan for next time. I, too, think that the fluids are all important. You have to do something to start flushing that junk out. This is day 10 for me after the first chemo...about the time I think imay feel decent, I don't. I never lost my sense of taste, but won't say that things taste the same either.



    I have an infection in the vein where the IV was given. I'm taking an antibiotic for that. I'm only supposed to do 3 more chemo sessions so hoping I won't have to do a port. Now I'm wondering if that was a good decision. Anybody else trying to do this without a port?



    So was it day 14 or 15 when the hair started leaving? Getting close to that time. Sure hope I handle that well. :)



    Keep your eyes on the goal, ladies. Hope this is a good day for you!

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited April 2013

    Hi Carol,

    I have not yet started my CT, it will be May 6 for me. My doctor told me no port,I will be doing 4 rounds.

    I hope you are feeling better. May I ask how you knew it was infected? I am one of those people "if it can go wrong it will!" Lol, just wanted to know what to look for, and did they tell you to look for it or did you just happen to notice.



    Regarding the hair, my doctor had said two weeks after first infusion. I've already gone from mid length to short pixie...which was a shocker, but I'm sure not as shocking as the "inevitable"



    Keep strong, you are 25% done!

    Pat

  • indenial
    indenial Member Posts: 504
    edited April 2013

    Rosina - I had the raw tongue too (and mouth, and throat)... that SE took longer to resolve than any of the others, but by the third week it's feeling normal. I want to get some slippery elm lozenges for round 2, this might be something to try -- I used them once before BC and think they'd be perfect for this type of discomfort.

    Dede - Glad to hear that chemo #2 has brought more manageable SE's! I also feel like an imposter. This whole experience is so surreal to me. 

    Carol - No port for me, I think my veins are holding up well so far for bloodwork etc., but my chemo vein is pretty bruised, hoping it will be OK by next week!

    Some body hair started falling out day 13 & head hair day 15. Today is day 17 and I looked like I had mange with the super short buzz cut so I finally shaved it down to the scalp. It still looks weird, totally bald patches and dark patches where the follicles are still in tact and then a few stubbly patches that the razor just couldn't get. It looks gross but feels so much better... who knew hair loss could be so painful!! My one piece of advice to anyone who hasn't faced the hair loss yet is, go somewhere to get it shaved to the scalp before it starts falling out. I thought I was "safe" with just stubble but it was horrible shedding everywhere & I wish I had shaved it sooner or at least shelled out the money for a professional to do it because I'm horrible at shaving!

  • hushkat
    hushkat Member Posts: 66
    edited April 2013

    Had my second round of Taxotere on Wednesday and my Neulasta shot yesterday.  I can feel my legs starting to ache, and my energy level has just plummeted.  I felt ok this morning, am sitting at work right now but think I'll head home at lunchtime. 

    Indenial - My hair started falling out 13 days after my first chemo, and three days after that I had it shaved.  I could have possibly delayed the head shave a day or two, but I wanted to do it on a Friday so I would have the weekend to deal with it before heading back to work on Monday. 

    To the new ladies - Welcome to the club you never wanted to join.  Hope you find some peace here.  xoxo

  • Virginger
    Virginger Member Posts: 111
    edited April 2013

    gonna TRY and hold off the Big BUZZ till Monday...my brother is gonna try and come and a friend from work is gonna video tape it...don't know if i'll SHARE it...but figured hey, got a professional photog, so why not....feeling normal so gonna work both Sat & Sun...easiest days to work....less folks around.....

    Next round (# 2) a week from today, so wanna get all the hours I can.

    Welcome new ladies and peaceful thoughts to everyone~

  • Netter
    Netter Member Posts: 107
    edited April 2013

    I don't start chemo until 1st of June for insurance reasons.  Have been reading all of your messages.  I think it is preparing me???? I have been told to shellac your fingernails and toenails so they won't come off.  Also to use plastic utensils so there won't be a metallic taste?  I have a 3 hour drive for my chemo treatments and not looking forward to that.........  I feel for all of you and have sent a group prayer for you.  Oh, almost forgot any suggestions for not gaining the weight?

  • heather214
    heather214 Member Posts: 142
    edited April 2013

    Welcome newbies!!!!

    Sounds like many of us are having a tough time right now. Yesterday when I got home, my scalp felt like it was on fire. Now, it is red all over, very painful, and the little stubbles are falling out. Try putting a wig on top of that, painful! Anyone else dealing with this? I am also struggling with my teenage daughter. Ever since I got the diagnosis, she has become somewhat sullen and angry. She is in therapy now, but it seems to be getting worse, not better. How about that one, anyone else. I am shocked by the anger somehow, I expected the fear... I have about  1 1/2 years of projected treatment, she may drive me crazy before the cancer does!

    Thought for the day: ~ I am calm, I am relaxed. I breathe deeply, and I am peace with myself. I can laugh, life is good. I am in control. ~ 

    Have a good day all.                                                   Heather

  • LKSHER
    LKSHER Member Posts: 209
    edited April 2013

    Yes, Heather. My fourteen year old son is angry, too. He says he hates school and he hates home. I get calls from the school and emails from teachers daily now. We, too, are helping him with therapy and various other methods of support, but it is breaking my heart, so I understand your pain. Our 11 year old daughter is definitely scared and upset, but she shows it differently than a teenager. She is also still in a private elementary school with a disciplined and family like atmosphere, where my son is at a JR SR High with lots of discipline problems and more of a free for all that makes it easy to get off track and get in trouble. To top it off, I found out yesterday at my second AC chemo that my Ki-67 was high at 40. Every time I try not to be depressed and terrified something else knocks me down. I asked for the test. They don't usually do it, and now I wonder if I should have bothered. I was hoping it would comfort me. Feeling exceptionally well physically, but awful emotionally. All I want is to be a healthy grandma and travel with my husband someday...and get my beautiful children back on track where I have worked so hard all these years to keep them. You ladies amaze me with your strength and generosity. I just seem to feel so defeated so much of the time. How can I be healing so well and feel so good, but be so afraid of dying? Sorry if I am a big downer.

  • Rosina0015
    Rosina0015 Member Posts: 49
    edited April 2013

    Indenial- Doc called me in a prescription for something called magic mouthwash. She said it will help and I can even swallow it if my throat was bothering me. Ewww. I'll let you know how it goes.



    Netter- I dread setting on the scale every doc visit. I'm going to buy a bike to ride on days like today when I feel good. Walking is great too.



    Heather - ouch. My prickly stubble is driving me nuts too. Never thought I'd look forward to the day of a smooth head. My son turns 16 on May 5th - I know I won't be feeling 100% that day and it makes me sad. And he isn't exactly being subtle about his disappointment either. He has a right to his feelings but I'm just surprised by his reaction. Grrr.



    LKSHER & Heather - Im finding the guilt is hard to deal with for me as far as being sick. It's a family disease - it's not just me who suffers. We told all of the kids no sports or activities until Mom is done with treatments. I hate that they are missing out right now. We have 5 kids (4,11,12,13,16) - so no T-ball, cheer, dance, softball, or track. The 3 tween girls are driving me nuts with their 'sisterly fighting'. Seriously!! I didn't grow up with a sister so I don't get all the fighting.



    LKSHER- I get down too. Sometimes 3 hours will go by before I realized I haven't moved (and this is on a good day). When I get out of the house I feel better. I met a mom at the playground yesterday and we talked about kids not cancer. Super refreshing. On Monday I'm starting a 6 week program through a place called WELLNESS WITHIN. It's a combo of support group, meditation, yoga, journaling and walking. It's something I never thought I'd go to but I think it's going to teach me how to deal. I too often think about the " what ifs" and it's scary. Hang in there. You have us to talk to. :)







  • heather214
    heather214 Member Posts: 142
    edited April 2013

    LKSHER,

    You are NOT the only one who feels defeated and as for me, angry that this happened! I find myself gravitating to the stage IV pages and reading the posts. I know it is awful, and doesn't help, but my tumors are big, and I wonder whether I will beat this. Then, sometimes I think, what if I beat this, and then it comes back only to do this all over again. I think we all have moments of doubt, fear, and think too much. I am on an antidepressant, if not, I would be much worse. I am sorry, but I am not familiar with all these tests. I am guessing it may predict recurrence? I am so sorry it did not come out as hoped. But, one thing I believe, is we all have the possibility to beat the odds, nothing is set in stone. As many people as I know who have had cancer, and then had it return: many more also had it bad, and then 20 years later, no recurrence. I think of Lance Armstrong (I know, don't hit me!) but his cancer had METASTASIZED to numerous areas, even his brain: and he is now several years CANCER-FREE!! So, it is possible to beat this monster! My daughter messaged me and apologized, she keeps saying she is just so angry and doesn't know how to deal with it. We are also Christian, and she is now refusing to go to church, she is according to her - "no longer a believer in God or good". It breaks my heart too, I feel more helpless than I do with my own cancer. I have gotten a little tougher with her though, because as I told her, "many bad things will happen throughout your life, and you have to be able to get through them." All we can do is love them, be good to ourselves, and try to stay positive and above all hopeful! You are in my thoughts, along with your family, with prayers for a long and happy life.

  • JenMas
    JenMas Member Posts: 6
    edited April 2013

    Irene, it will get better. You will have good days. I didn't think i would ever get through chemo, but i completed 6 rounds on 4-3 and will now start radiation. You will get through it!

    Netter, the plastic utensils do help. I found that cold foods tasted better. I was never fond of jello but it tasted good during chemo!

    Wishing for low SE days for everyone  :)

  • heather214
    heather214 Member Posts: 142
    edited April 2013

    Rosina, 5 kids - hats off to you! I don't know how you all manage with small kids through this, your amazing! Yes, my youngest wants to learn how to drive, have friends over, go places. I am just not up to it, but I try to keep her busy and maintain a sense of normalcy on some level, even though our life is really crazy! Her grades are dropping, but I am trying to not be hypercritical of everything. We got her a book for teens, I think it is called "My mom has cancer, and it sucks". It is really good. Also, I am in Cali, so not sure if everyone has access, but I found a free camp here for kids whose parents have cancer. It is a week long, and I am so hoping she gets in. Maybe you all could find something similiar? My only frustration is I cannot find a teen support group for her in our area.

  • PamelaKay
    PamelaKay Member Posts: 107
    edited April 2013

    Netter, here is how I have avoided weight gain so far: Have a mouth so sore that eating anything harder than pudding or even slightly acidic feels like chewing glass. Have all your meals from a blender so that everything tastes like mush. Have chemo drugs in your system so that everything has that tangy, bitter aftertaste. Have even managed to lose a pound or two, in spite of being constantly ravenous (from the steroids?). 

    Sorry if that sounds bitter (ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!).  

    My incision started bleeding today. Off to drive an hour to see the on-call PS this afternoon. 

  • Gardengirl33
    Gardengirl33 Member Posts: 65
    edited April 2013

    First I'd like to say thank you, I am so glad we all are comfortable enough to talk about the deep stuff, the gross stuff, the raw stuff, the wonderful and funny stuff just letting it out there!

    It is 10 days post 1st chemo. Oh my God! I think about hair, got to make a call, hair, what to make for dinner, hair, let the dogs out, hair! It's kind of funny, but more "twilight zone" like. I think this is all but a very bad dream.

    I have set the date, May 3rd. Buzz cut! Any suggestions on keeping head from hurting right after buzz? I have a daughter, sister in law and a friend who all are stylists. I'll have to ask them for some tips.

  • Jen987
    Jen987 Member Posts: 145
    edited April 2013

    Gardengirl3: I only buzzed my down to like a number 2. I haven't totally shaved it. Some find it painful to have a little stubble, I have not. Hats and scarfs make me itch after a while so I take them off at home and I feel more comfortable with some hair. Everybody is different. I'm actually enjoying having no hair. So much faster getting ready. Gotta look on the bright side of a dark situation.

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