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  • Bishops2003
    Bishops2003 Member Posts: 60
    edited February 2013

    Mine recommended vitamin d, magnesium, and said the curcumin couldn't hurt. :)

  • fhny2012
    fhny2012 Member Posts: 41
    edited March 2013

    My onc recommeded vitamin D, and she does actively monitor my vitamin D levels from my bloodwork.  She won't prescribe me Metformin but said I could try and participate in the trial if I wanted...  She is, however, adamant about limited alcohol intake, limiting one's sugar and white bread/pasta/flour intake, and exercise.  Despite not recommending metformin, she is very focused on maintaining stable blood sugar.  Hope this is helpful! 

  • Mumtobe
    Mumtobe Member Posts: 159
    edited March 2013

    What levels of Vit D should we be getting a day? I trust my onc but I also trust my gut and my gut tells me to take curcumin & vit d, so that's what I'll do. Will wait a few weeks to start both though, I am afraid that the anti-oxident in curcumin might affect that last dose of chemo, even though it's been a month since I finished.

  • Luah
    Luah Member Posts: 1,541
    edited March 2013

    My vitamin D level was tested during treatment and found to be adequate. My BS recommended at least 2000 units daily. I take 3000 units D3 drops. Have not had my levels tested since. Seems like a small thing we can do... 

  • julz4
    julz4 Member Posts: 2,490
    edited March 2013

    First I wanted to thank you ALL for your input in this thread!   I read often.  My med onc I only had to see twice.  He told me the only thing for me to take was 2,000 IU of D3 a day.  He never did a level & when I went for my Cholesterol level I asked my family Dr. to check it.  I was on the 2,000 IU of D for about 2 months & I was only 35. 

    I'm trying to work in the walking.  But with working as a CNA I've been working my but off & don't feel like working out when I get home.  I hurt all over as I literally run all night long & pull, push, tug all night long by myself!  The last 3 months work has been unreal!   I only had to have RADS as my invasive BC was only a few spots in my tumor & micro invasive tiny.  Mostly DCIS.  They are saving the big guns for if it comes back.  My thoughts about what they are thinking. 

    Does anyone use Chia seeds in there food....drinks?  Very nutrient dence & not much flavor so easy to hide in recipes.

  • Mumtobe
    Mumtobe Member Posts: 159
    edited March 2013

    Oh ladies I did the dog on it last weekend and I don't regret a single second of it. I went away for a romantic well deserved break with my hubby. I had a glass of red wine, had the cheeseboard for dessert (oh cheese how I adore you!) and used cow's milk (it was all that was there). I even had duck for starter. Jeepers I gotta live right? :)

  • peb
    peb Member Posts: 48
    edited March 2013

    I  have been reading the posts with good tips for healthy eating .  I found this list and don't know if something like it has been posted on here but I hadn't seen one so I thought i would post it.

    http://foodforbreastcancer.com/articles/what-should-triple-negative-breast-cancer-patients-and-survivors-eat%3f

  • julz4
    julz4 Member Posts: 2,490
    edited March 2013

    Peb, thank you so much for posting that link. Once I got on the link I found a whole host of other info on triple neg BC. As we all are DX with BC we wonder at some point & time WHY, HOW we got BC. Myself has always wondered if ALL the many hormone drugs to keep my period/bleeding problems in check before I finally had my Hysterectomy had anything to do with my BC. Yes we know pill increases the risk as any hormones. But the high doses of progestin & the many doses of depro shots I received just weeks & a few months before my surgery just may be one of the causes of my BC. Something my GUT has thought about for a long time, also is in the minds of the researchers!

  • Ssd1973
    Ssd1973 Member Posts: 1
    edited April 2013

    Have you ladies heard the new research that says Omega 3s are good for prevention of TN recurrence?

  • Bishops2003
    Bishops2003 Member Posts: 60
    edited April 2013

    Where did you /read hear that? I know they are good in general but did you find out something specific?

  • Yayme
    Yayme Member Posts: 107
    edited April 2013
  • julz4
    julz4 Member Posts: 2,490
    edited April 2013

    Lelela....Thank You so much for the info.  I have taken 3,000 mg's of Omega 3 fish oil for about 10 years now along with CoQ-10.  Didn't take but the small amount of D that was in my Calcium pill.   I wonder if that helped hold back the invasive part of my tumor to only be microinvasive?

  • Sjesse12345
    Sjesse12345 Member Posts: 45
    edited April 2013

    That is really interesting info about the Omega 3s and from Fox Chase, impressive.

  • mackmann
    mackmann Member Posts: 14
    edited April 2013

    Hello, I've been lurking around this site during for quite some time, and am now finally participating in the forums ;)

    I finished chemo in December, and am about to complete my reconstruction next month. I'm almost back together again!!

    Like everyone here, I am at a new normal and also very interested in finding ways to minimise recurrence while still continuing to live and love life!  I am working towards being as strong and healthy as I can, but also trying not to be obsessive (which is pretty hard).

    At the moment, I exercise 5 times a week, Juice every morning so I start the day with 5 helpings of vegies ( so by the end of the day, I have at least 10-15 servings), Take multivitamins, Vit d3 and omega 3 oil everyday. I also tend to add more ginger and turmeric in my foods due to it's anti-inflmmatory effects. And as a general rule, I usually ask myself, before I put anything in my mouth, whether it's natural and whether it will bring any goodness to my body.

    Saying that, I also allow for 4-6 meals a weekin which I allow myself anything I fancy, being it a cheesy pizza or a slice of cake. As for alcohol, I do love my red wine and my social evenings out, but I've cut back to 4-5 glasses a week.

    So all in all, I'm trying to keep a 80-20 balance in life. (80% being healthy of course!)

    I am finding that if I don't allow some lee way, I tend to get stressed and riddled with guilt that I am not doing enough to keep the cancer away indefinitely. I feel that there does have to be a balance to be happy.

    So, my 2 cents worth is that it is important to have your cake and eat it too... just not all the time ;)

  • smo23915
    smo23915 Member Posts: 165
    edited April 2013

    Hi Macmann,

    Could you tell me what is in your am Juice?  Do you make a smoothie or just juice the vegetalbes?

    Sharon

  • PeggySull
    PeggySull Member Posts: 686
    edited April 2013

    I'm interested in the veg smoothie recipe as well!



    I'm also researching juicers. Any recommendations?



    Thanks in advance,

    Peggy

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited April 2013

    Peggy

    I am an owner of a juicer and a Vitamix.  My juicer is in a cupboard and I haven't used it in years.  I use the Vitamix 2-3 times a day.  Even when I just owned the juicer, I found it impractical - cleaning wise and then dealing with all of the remnents.  If you want crystal clear juice, no pulp, then you would have to use a juicer, but honestly, the pulp is where so many of the nutrients are.  I love to put 2-3 peeled oranges in my Vitamix (and theoretically you can do with skin, though it would be quite "zesty" with that much skin) and it's like an orange julius.  My mainstay with the Vitamix is to make "green drinks."  One to two times a day.  Everyday, it's an experiment, what to add, what to try new.  It's a great way to get a lot of greens, like kale, collards, chard....I try to get atleast a pound of those a day and they are always part of my smoothies.  I'll sweeten my drinks with a frozen banana or frozen (organic) berries from Costco, or both.  Dates are another option.  I might add a wedge of lemon (with skin), parsley, appledepending on the flavors I want.  Blueberries are a great anti-cancer food, as well as ginger or tumeric root (which might go into a more savory smoothie).  Sometimes I'll add dulse to get my iodine.  Chia seeds or Flax seeds (they get ground up by the Vitamix) for Omega 3s, always! I add DoMatch Green Tea Powder as it as something like 20x the concentration of what you can get by drinking green tea - another good anti-cancer food.  Recently I've added food supplements, only because I've sort of slipped into the Vegan mode (to fight inflammation) and want to make sure I'm getting phytonutrients (I tend to eat like a chimpanzee and go light on root vegetables unless greens are hard to find) and protein, though I'm not convinced I need the latter.  I get these from Healthforce Vitamineral Green and Chlorella.

    I got this Vitamix in mid-December, and I swear it has changed my life.  After a few days went by of using it, I realized I hadn't thought about coffee.  I wasn't trying to quit coffee (and I see no harm in coffee), but my cravings disappaeared and I'm an avowed espresso junkie. The amount I've saved in the drive-thru espresso has paid for this machine.  Just saving money now!  It also disappated my cravings for sugar.  Literally, without trying, I've lost 20lbs and I never count calories. I love this machine (so much, I should just sell them)....hopefully it will save my life.  I could not eat a lb of greens a day (or more) without this item.  It's also great at making things like nut butters, soups, sauces, and all raw.  With a second type of blender container, you can make your own flour..which I might start to do if I want bread, as I'm also trying gluten-free for this inflammation (and Exemestane joint pain in my hands - thinking my new gluten free ways, for just a week thus far, are helping).

    I might add, it takes minutes to gather ingredients, no chopping, throw them in the Vitamix at once, turn it on....in less than 20 seconds you have a very smooth tasty drink.  Cleanup is as easy.

    This does sound like a commercial (sorry) - but I'm just a believer now.  Lots of Youtubes on Vitamix - with recipes.....I sometimes go to this site:

    http://blenditandmendit.com/

    Edited to add - I usually use unsweetened Almond Milk or Coconut Water for my liquid.  I'm dairy free, so no yogurt and I always go organic, unless unavailable.

  • smo23915
    smo23915 Member Posts: 165
    edited April 2013

    Thankyou Kam170 for your info.  I also have a vitamix and love it!  I have noticed a difference in how I feel in just a month now of green smoothies every day.  Nails growing, hair growing and hopefully nothing else is growing!!

    I also drink 4 cups of green tea with Brassica (Lilly from John Hopkins told me at least 2 cups of this tea a day and a pinch of Brocco sprouts a day)  But could you tell me where do you buy the DoMatch Green Tea Powder do you order it or get it at a health food store,

    Sharon

     ps-we should change our names to "green....."  My daughter tells me my eyes are now green!

  • susaninicking
    susaninicking Member Posts: 142
    edited April 2013

    Hi smo and kam, Can one or both you post a link to your VitaMix? I live in Germany and need to find a source but want to be sure I'm buying the right kind of model. Thanks much

  • smo23915
    smo23915 Member Posts: 165
    edited April 2013

    Susan,

    Here is the link to Amazon, for the Vitamix.  It all depends on how much you want to spend.  I have the 5200S one.  Also, I don't know if you have QVC on your TV stations (it is a home shopping station) but they usually have them on sale.  Usually they have an hour program selling and demonstrating them.

    Sharon

    http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=vitamix+blenders&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=3280222261&hvpos=1t2&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4410074521160462158&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_5wr6owyoba_b

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited April 2013

    Sharon and Susan

    I buy the non-ceremonial grade, organic, DoMatcha Green Tea Powder at Amazon; this one:

    http://www.amazon.com/DoMatcha-Organic-Harvest-Matcha-2-82-Ounce/dp/B003O7T87C/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1366832849&sr=8-3&keywords=DoMatcha+Green+Tea+Powder

    This will last me 2 months

    As far as the Vitamix, if you don't have Costcos in Germany (the best place to buy $$ wise, imho) you can see if there are dealers in Germany.  You would have different voltages there and that might be limiting if they don't distribute outside of the United States:

    https://www.vitamix.com/Home

    Susan - all professional chefs use these, so I imagine there is a European version.  Maybe search on Vitamix with a German web address?  I too own the 5200..not sure which variation.  Costco sells this with one blender container for $375.  I missed that special in the store and bought the $500 version with 2 blender containers from Costco online - the second one is for grains and I haven't used it yet.  They came with cookbooks, but I never use them.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited April 2013

    Susan

    Additionally...found this remark made at rawfoodtalk in 2009 (following info on UK site):

    I found this website in the UK:  https://www.vitamix.co.uk/   Not sure of the voltage in the UK.


    There is a difference between an adapter and a transformer. Adapters only work with appliances that are built for both voltages, 110 and 240 (or 220 in Germany). I just checked for my daughter, who is stationed in Germany. The Vita-Mix is a single voltage machine, so you would need a transformer. It does not give the wattage, but it's 110V and 11.5 amps, which translates into 1265 watts. I would get a 2000 watt transformer to be on the safe side. Nevertheless, there still is the import tax issue.

  • susaninicking
    susaninicking Member Posts: 142
    edited April 2013

    Thanks ladies, I will do a bit more poking around. Amazon in Germany has your model(s) at the equivalent of almost $800. Painful. As far as getting one from England there is no more VAT in the EU and our voltage is the same (I have some UK appliances due to dramatic price differences with Germany) so you should just need an adaptor for the plug. Off to check the UK prices. I'm overdue in getting a juicer. Thanks so much to you both!

  • mackmann
    mackmann Member Posts: 14
    edited April 2013

    I'll have to take at look at a vitamix!

    Sharon, my daily vegetable juices changes most days, depending on what i have in the fridge, or what is available in the market. However, I always throw in an apple and a carrot first for taste, then I add veggies like cucumber, kale, bok choy, courgette (zucchini), celery , beetroot, wheatgrass etc.  Usually I aim for 5 different veg/fruit in total.

    I always experiment, and also add things like ginger root, mint leaves, basil, lemon rind for added taste. 

    I do find that the apple and carrot does make the juice sweeter which is why it goes into everyone of my juices.

    Have fun with it! Sometime the juice has come out looking as if it came from a science lab. The kids find it entertaining in the morning, and my husband is often the guinea pig and gets a first try;)

    I keep the pulp from the carrot, apple and courgette to make  healthy muffins.  

    When using fruit only, I tend to make a smoothies instead using the blender. It is my uderstanding that it is better to have the fibre when eating fruits (due to the fructose/sugar)

    If you can find a juicer without too many parts, it's an easy morning wash.

  • Luah
    Luah Member Posts: 1,541
    edited April 2013

    Can someone tell me what it is about the vitamix that it makes it so much better than a blender or juicer (or garden variety food processor)? 

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited April 2013

    Luah - a 2 horsepower motor.  A blender might....might do what a Vitamix can do, but not as easily, or as fast, and not without burning out.  Somethings it will never do - like grind flour, maybe?  It won't make squash soup from a raw status (the rpm's of the Vitamix actually heat the soup from friction).  It's just a whole lot more powerful, and with a 7 year, and sometimes 10 year warranty.  They're in a class of their own.  I would never expect a blender to make the smoothies I make with the ease I make them in the Vitamix.  A food processor makes fine nut butters though.

  • Luah
    Luah Member Posts: 1,541
    edited April 2013
  • PeggySull
    PeggySull Member Posts: 686
    edited April 2013

    KAM170



    Thanks for all the details and the time it took to write them. Didn't know a high end blender could make green smoothies. Thought I HAD to buy a juicer. Sometime this Spring I'll make a decision.



    Looks like many others were helped by your info. Thanks again.



    Peggy

  • Meggy
    Meggy Member Posts: 530
    edited July 2013

    Keep the info coming sisters.

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