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Lily55
Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
edited June 2014 in Lymphedema

I don´t want to cause any upset or offence but I would like an answer......!!

I am worried about LE risk as had MX and total node clearance and then they insisted on doing rads on axilla area too, all risk factors for LE.  When I spoke to consultant about it he assured me that "only" overweight women get LE and that I was not at risk (I am not skinny but not significantly overweight).  Is this true?  Or can anyone get LE at any time and its yet another unknown we have to live with?

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  • dltnhm
    dltnhm Member Posts: 873
    edited April 2013

    It is not true.

  • Marple
    Marple Member Posts: 19,143
    edited April 2013

    Your consultant is wrong.  A healthy weight is certainly a good idea but it does not eliminate the risk of developing lymphedema.  We are all at risk.  Your consultant needs some schooling and here is a good place for you to gain knowledge.  http://www.stepup-speakout.org/riskreduction_for_lymphedema.htm

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited April 2013

    Thank you, I did not think it would be true, but your link is really helpful and I see it states that 57% of women are not told about LE risk and info!!

    Is there a good sun tan lotion to use that avoids chemicals connected to cancer risk?

  • Marple
    Marple Member Posts: 19,143
    edited April 2013

    Lily, I'll assume you mean sunscreen lotion.  Here is a thread that may help you out.  http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/64/topic/787835?page=1#post_3043939

    You can use the 'search' option to the left and punch in sunscreen under 'keywords'.

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited April 2013

    about it he assured me that "only" overweight women get LE and that I was not at risk (I am not skinny but not significantly overweight). Is this true...

    Nope, and you will encounter many ignorant people when it comes to LE so you are wise to post here.

    Hope you never get !  Good Luck.

  • carol57
    carol57 Member Posts: 3,567
    edited April 2013

    High BMI at the time of BC surgery is known to increase our LE risk, but for cryin' out loud, it's not the only risk.  Node clearance pretty much tops the list of what sets us up for LE.  Just wondering...what kind of 'consultant' is this person?

  • NatsFan
    NatsFan Member Posts: 3,745
    edited April 2013

    Lily - as others have said, your consultant is flatly wrong.  You were smart to sense that the information was incorrect and to ask for correct info. 

    If you're up to it, you may want to print out some of the information from the Step Up Speak Out website and give it to your "consultant" and if he's not receptive, give it to the director of that facility.  His information is not only wrong, but dangerous.  You were smart enough to realize that it was wrong and to seek additional information.  Other women may not be able to face that reality, and because he's telling them what they want to hear, they'll believe him and not take any risk reduction measures.  By the time they get accurate information, it may be too late and they may already have lymphedema - lymphedema that might have been prevented had they been given accurate information from the get go. 

  • kriserts
    kriserts Member Posts: 224
    edited April 2013

    I'm normal weight. I thought I didn't have to worry because I was told, given my weight, I had less of a risk factor. But I did develop it. FYI, I believe that now they can test your arm to see if you are developing it, before there are any outward signs. That way you can nip it in the bud.

  • hugz4u
    hugz4u Member Posts: 2,781
    edited April 2013

    If you saw the gal that was attending the same LE seminar that I attended you would have taken a double look. Both her arms had sleeves and gloves on. Her long arms were skinny as toothpicks...... Well... not that skinny but they were like a 6 year girls arm size in diameter. Any doc would have doubted her but seeing that she was well known Le advocate I am sure she educated whoever she ran into and set the docs straight. She started out so swollen and got her arms down to her normal small size.



    By the way my LEist says if I lose weight my LE will improve somewhat.

  • Nordy
    Nordy Member Posts: 2,106
    edited May 2013

    I just ran across this... Bahahahhahaha! I have lymphedema. I am not overweight. Your consultant needs to get their facts straight. Smile

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2013

    Lily, yes anyone who has had any nodes cleared is at risk for the rest of their lives of developing LE. That is a given. Then we can throw this into the mix: there are all sorts circumstances that can lessen that risk or heighten it. It is a fortunate person who has been educated on the facts before surgery and an unfortunate one who has been given a false sense of security like you have. There are plenty of women who are not overweight who have developed LE, and even from only 1 node taken.

  • Member_of_the_Club
    Member_of_the_Club Member Posts: 3,646
    edited May 2013

    I'm pretty thin so I'm so relieved I won't get LE.  Oh, wait . . .

    By the way, in terms of risk factors I was never told that a previous hand injury increased my risk but once I developed LE (primarily in my hand) the consensus of both my surgeon and the LE therapist was that the hand injury had previously compromised my lymph system, so I was pretty much a sitting duck once my nodes were removed.

  • kira66715
    kira66715 Member Posts: 4,681
    edited May 2013

    Add me to the list of thin women with just three nodes out who got LE.

    The risk factors are many: surgery, radiation, chemo, genetic predisposition, prior injury--and what happens is, your body has the capacity to transport lymphatic fluid--it's called lymphatic transport capacity--and some of us have robust lymphatic systems, and some of us have weaker ones--and when that capacity gets overwhelmed, you swell.

    Often, with radiation, the process of radiation fibrosis progresses slowly over the years, and then there is a trigger--inflammation, an infection, a bug bite, an air plane flight--and suddenly you swell.

    Stepupspeakout has been mentioned, but no one has linked it that I've seen:

    This is for your doctor: http://www.stepup-speakout.org/essential%20informat%20for%20healthcare%20providers.htm

    And this is for you: http://www.stepup-speakout.org/riskreduction_for_lymphedema.htm

    No one knows the exact incidence of how many women get lymphedema, as there is no one accepted diagnostic standard, but here is a link to the approximate risk for women with various treatments: http://www.lymphedemablog.com/2012/09/08/the-risk-of-breast-cancer-related-lymphedema-over-time/

    The odds are always in your favor that you won't get it, but if you do get LE, you need a doctor who acknowledges it and sends you promptly for treatment.

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited May 2013

    Thank you all, i did think it was a fattist comment!

  • ahdjdbcjdjdbkf
    ahdjdbcjdjdbkf Member Posts: 645
    edited June 2013

    I got it as a fit size 4 - so not true at all. However, my doctors all now tell me with lymphedema, the skinnier the better. I had a doctor's appointment yesterday and I am trying an anti-inflammatory diet to see if it has any improvement on my lymphedema. She is certain from her other patients that it will help.

  • hugz4u
    hugz4u Member Posts: 2,781
    edited June 2013

    Mariasnow. There is a book out there I think by "Poulet" if I am spelling it right and it tells you how to eat for LE. Some people believe it, some don't.  I know salt is a NO NO. I rinse my chips off at home and eat them before they "melt".

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