Depressed
I finished treatment the end of July. I thought things would get back to normal after that. I have gained 25lbs since the start of all this. I hate my body. I just want to get in bed and stay there. Everyone thinks I did great and that I should be happy I "beat" it and get on my life now. I can't focus, I cry all the time, I hate to get up, dressed and go to work. I just don't know how to fix it.
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Hi
It seems its very common to feel like this post treatment so be kind to yourself ( i don't find it easy either!) i am still missing a breast and gaining weight thanks to hormones so feel for and with you......no easy answers its a process we have to go through to ad just to our new ( normal) .........it is far from easy..... -
Dlm, after my BMX and reconstruction, I also went through a time when I felt like I was crying all the time. My MO put me on Lexapro for hot flashes due to hormonal therapy but it also seemed to pull me up out of the dumps. Your reaction is very natural, especially given all the stress your body has gone through. Give yourself the gift of talking to your dr about the possibility of an antidepressant. As shallow as it might seem, grab a good friend and take yourself to a department store for a free makeover or, if you can afford it, even out to a day spa. A gentle half hour walk as many days as you can should help, too, and may let your body know that it can now begin shedding some of the weight. Also what helps me is to journal all those icky feelings. Finally, I firmly believe that a day or two with the covers up over your head is also an excellent part of healing therapy. With so much of what has been/is happening in our bodies out of our control, it's nice to try to find those things that are within our control and indulge in them (within reason) when we can.
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Dlm it really is hard people act as if it were a cold but we hav yrs of check ups ahead I have alienated my self from most and do often end up in bed and losing weight is so hard well im not much help but we can go mad together
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Thanks for the thoughts and suggestions. I have mentioned it to my dr, to my husband, to my friends and they just say you been through a lot give it time. I feel like no one is listening. I have given it time. Tomorrow is a year since I finished chemo. I finished radiation in July. I feel worse now then I did going through the surgery, chemo and radiation. My mental state is not good. I am just not sure what else to do or where else to turn. Thanks for listening.
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dlm217:
i am having a similar experience. i saw something the other day that said "you survive, then you cry". that's what is happening to me. now that i am through the worst of it, for now, i am all over the place. i'm angry, hurt, sad, etc etc. it reminds me of grieving for my mom and sister. i do ok and then a wave of feelings come over me.
now that i am through most of the physical therapy (my reconstruction caused a great deal of muscle pain), i can afford to see a counselor. i have an appointment next week. meanwhile, i'm also talking to understanding folks when i can.
i'm also going on a vacation. this has been a sh*tty year, emotionally and physically, and i just need a break. like grief, i guess this is just going to take time and take me venting and being gentle with myself. this sucks. it just does. glad you're here talking about it.
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Gritgirl that is it. I am through the worst of it but I am all over the place emotionally. I am not done with reconstruction and can't finish until at least July. I'm not sure what we will do about that. My left implant has moved up and I am extremely uneven now. I was told to see the plastic surgeon but I feel like why bother when all I do is gain weight. I am just so unhappy right now. I haven't been on vacation in 4 1/2 years. I have 3 young kids, a house we just bought a 10 months before all this started. I am struggling financially. I just am not sure how much more I can take of work, house stuff, medical stuff. I am now dealing with vertigo since the end of December too. I feel completely overwhelmed and don't know how to dig myself out of this mess.
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Dim, preach it sister. I should hve taken you to the doctor with me today to explain this very thing. Every part of my body hurts. I have no energy to get up and do anything. I have severe bouts of crying and then I remember that oh yeah I have pills to take for depression and they would probably work better if I took them. I am suppose to be working 20 hours a week but havent even been able to do that much. All I want to do is stay in my bed too. Oh I adopted a girl 6 months before I was diagnosed and she is 3 now. I just cant keep up with her.
edited to add.. I cant remember crap, I still have cotton mouth from chemo which my last dose was December 18th. My doctor is referring me to physical therapy to see if they can get me moving again. So now I get to pay to go exercise. Yay.
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I'm with you. Enough, already. Enough. Maybe if we start and keep saying that, it will help. If this is some huge game of Uncle, I give.
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Dim, This is such a common thread. I say this not to make you feel worse, but to make you feel better. I have some thoughts about the subject. First is that getting a cancer diagnosis means that you have to do through the stages of grief in order to integrate what you know to be true into your mind and emotions. The second thing is that while we are in active treatment (which generally begins soon after being diagnosed), we don't really have time to go through the process of making the whole thing real. Then, when we are finished with treatment and the Dr. et al say everything is good and we are living our lives as if nothing has happened, we begin to realize that SOMETHING HUGE HAPPENED and we skipped over the part of making it real in our heads. That was the reason I found it difficult to move on from being in a stuck place. It's also the time when many of the women come to these boards. It's possible that I may be wrong about the reason why so many of us go through the same issues, but I thought I'd throw my 2 cents out there
It's a long process...
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P.S. I agree wholeheartedly about the antidepressants. I gave in after nearly 2 years of fighting it. Now, I feel (mostly) like a new person. This does not minimize what we have been through, but (impressively) makes it easier to deal with and work through.
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Gritgirl I agree, I give.
Thanks Wenweb. I know this is dumb but I feel like I am weak if I have to ask for antidepressants. This is so hard. I just want to be me again and I am sad that I don't think that is possible any more. I do think it is grieve. I feel like I did when my mother died. It is just a very lonely sad place to be.
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When I was diagnosed the first time I had just finished a marathon so was in very good shape, physically and mentally. That helped me deal with the post-surgery blues. Also, I was divorced and had to work. So three weeks after surgery and reconstruction I decided to go back just to get my mind of myself. It helped a lot. Also I began running again with the track club and that helped a lot too.
If you like to exercise or jog, or run or whatever else, please do it. It kept me from having to go on anti-depressants again. In time, you feel so good that you quit thinking and worrying.
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I exercise and take 5 HTP now and beginning to feel a little brighter but still hugely tired.....its my diagnosis cancerversary today.....one year........
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Dim, you are welcome! I certainly wouldn't consider it a weakness to ask for something that can help you begin to be able to put the pieces of your life back together. Please don't put yourself down if you decide that an antidepressant might truly help.
dogsandjogs, I have been a runner for nearly 34 years. I know that it is common advise that exercise helps one in many ways when stressed. Interestingly enough, for me to "take care" of myself, I actually cut back my running and got more heavily into yoga. I was very much committed to my running, but was putting too much pressure on myself to run of when I was exhausted and depressed. I was still exercising, but yoga was better for my head, plus it has kept all my muscles strong and toned. Now, after doing yoga 3-4 times a week for the past 2 years, I am ready to recommit to my running!
Lily55, Congratulations on making it through the first year! Four more to go
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I so can relate to all of the same feelings. One minute I am fine and the next I am crying and angry and would love to have a huge drama fit, you know like the ones on TV where they throw and break everything in sight. I know that I can get through this, but really how much more can I take.
As a therapist told me years ago after my mother in law died, asking for help is actually a sign of strength not a sign of weakness. So ask away! -
dlm217, eleven years ago I was diagnosed with depression. This was way before I got bc. All it was, I took a small white pill every morning for a year. Within a week or two my mood lifted, I began to see the light, and my energy was renewed. I never got depressed again, not even through bc and other traumatic events in my life. Finished rads in July last year, went back to exercise in September, and I'm doing really well. Life is so good again. Please go on an antidepressant if you don't feel better soon. You will be so glad you did when you start to feel better. It is worth it.
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I also went through a couple bouts of depression, way before BC. I remember like it was yesterday, after being in therapy for a few months, my psychologist said I should be farther along and suggested I needed medication. I broke down and cried because I felt like a failure that I couldn't fix myself. But, the issue was, my brain chemistry was f!@#ed up. I was on medication for only a short time; I got better.
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dim217,
Depression is a medical condition affecting your brain chemistry. There is no shame in getting treated for it.
I fought treatment for 30+ years thinking that I should be able to fix it myself. Wrong! All I did was dig myself into a deeper hole. Like liefie, I was in treatment before BC. I suffered the usual anxiety and sadness that we go through, but managed to avoid a serious and long depression. My treatment is meds, therapy, regular exercise and sunlight whenever I can get it. For me, sunlight gives the most immediate relief.
Please ask your doctor for help. In the meantime, try to go for walks and find some sunlight to melt over you.
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Dim217, I'm on an anti-depressant for Seasonal Affective Disorder, yet I feel the same as you. Finished rads a month ago. Talked to my Dr.s at my one month follow up and I'm going to see a cancer psychologist tomorrow morning. As others have suggested to me, this is not unusual, in fact it's probably PTSD. Please look into it and I think you'll see your symptoms are the same as those with PTSD. I'm not sure if they'll adjust my meds yet or not, but anti-depressants changed my life. I'm so glad I'm going to talk with a psychologist who is a cancer expert. I want to get on with my life. I don't know why it's so hard to ask for help sometimes, but you shouldn't be afraid of anti-depressants. Maybe talking to someone who knows what you're going through can help. God bless my family, but they don't get it. I'm actually looking forward to tomorrow. (((hugs)))
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Thanks. Should I see my primary?
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I think I'd start with my RO or MO first and ask about a cancer psychologist. I think most primaries can start you out on something, but if there needs to be a change in meds they want you to go to a psychiatrist. I may have more info tomorrow. My hospital has been great about the medical side of things, but I think they're really lacking in the mental well being of their cancer patients. I know we're bombarded with so much at the beginning, but i wish someone told me that PTSD is common in BC patients and here's what you should look for and here's who to call if you're struggling. They have 3 cancer psychologists on staff, so clearly there's a need....they just need to let people know they have options! Sheila:)
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dim217, how are you?
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I'm doing a little better this week. I joined a gym on Saturday and have started exercising. I have an appointment with my primary doctor on the 17th and will discuss it with him. My next follow up with my medical oncologist is 6/10. If I don't feel better from exercising and whatever my primary suggests by then than I will discuss it with her.
Thanks for asking. I appreciate all the support and suggests.
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Dim217, I'm so glad to hear you are feeling better! Have you looked at books geared for BC patients? The IDC thread 2013 Survivors! has a book cover at the top of the thread's page that they recommend.
I'm still down, but at least I have a plan now. The psychologist said that exercise is the number one mood enhancer for depression. Even more so than antidepressants. She had me choose an exercise (walking my dog three times a week for 5 minutes) get rid of any barriers that might prevent me from accomplishing it, (laying out my clothes and the dog leash the night before, not turning on the computer or tv while drinking my coffee before the walk.) She had me write down the positives that will come from walking my dog so I have a visual. I walked for 15 min. on Sunday. It was a lot more tiring than I thought it'd be! It rained all day today, supposed to tomorrow, snow, freezing rain. Ugh! Anyway, I'm meeting with her again a week from today. She really validated everything I'm going through right now,and agreed that they need to do a better job of addressing the psycho-social aspect of the BC patient.
Good luck and check out the IDC 2013 Survivors! board. Lot of amazing women! (((Hugs))) Sheila. -
Hi all,
Wondering how to handle a BC diagnosis and treatment when don't feel like I had a life before BC diagnosis and will be more of the same after diagnosis? Spent most of my life caring for others. Took on a niece and nephew at ages 3 & 6 when had two kids of my own and raised them through teenage years. Cared for grandma after grandpa passed. Moved closer to help which is okay and where I grew up and want to be. After grandma passed at age 91 (she had a special daughter she cared for all those years), helped Mom and stepdad care for her. Mom passed in 2006 of lung cancer. Helped stepdad care for Aunt next 1 1/2 years till he passed. Promised Mom on her deathbed that I would care for Aunt. I have been caring for her last 5 years while working full time job. Help from one sister on most weekends but we are house bound for the most part. Especially me. I care for her every night and essentially every weekend. I cannot break my promise to Mom. Then BC diagnosis. I have let the relationship with hubby take second to caring for her, kids etc... we are still together because he is a good guy (25 years married). I had hoped after kids grown we could have a more meaningful relationship then all else happened. Kinda give up on that now. I am trying to stay positive and we will be getting more help in here on weekends so we can go do things together. I am doing okay but sure do get depressed sometimes with the situation. Having a hard time with resentment towards other family members who have never helped with her. She has several siblings but none of them call or come see her. She cries sometimes and I am sure it is because she misses them. I have several siblings too but only one helps me. It seems that I don't have the time to focus on me or my diagnosis. I feel selfish when I do focus on me. Don't get naps, rest, etc...EVERYONE expects me to keep going with minimal help while working full time and doing treatments. I feel very alone most of time and angry. Hubby has pretty much resorted to watching t.v. over the years and I can't blame him. Do I have the right to feel like this? Thought about not posting this because I feel like I am whining. I dont regret helping everyone all these years but wish I could just have some me time for awhile. Hard to be positive when this will probably be my future. All I can hope is that things change for the better for me. Maybe the extra help, I hope. I hope things get better for all of you too. Take care. -
in January if finished with my treatment. I have started tamoxifin. My dr put me on an antidepressant in February, however, it dosent work I am angry, mean and a B***h all of the time I feel very irriated with everyone and everything. I find no joy in anything anymore. I have told my doctor and I get the feeling she is not sure what to do. Please help me does anyone have any advice?
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sarahrc, what antidepressant did your doc put you on? Effexor is the one main antidepressant that can be taken in conjunction with Tamoxifen. The reason is that other's can interfer with the metabolism of Tamoxifen making it less effective. Under most any other circumstance you could just try a different one, but you had better check and make sure it's compatable with Tamoxifen. There are some other antipdepressants that can be taken with Tamoxifen, but none as compatable as Effexor. Good-luck!
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sarahrc, I'm on citalopram, even before BC. I'm just struggling with post treatment blues, etc. Started Tamo on 3/20. I saw a cancer psychologist on Friday. We're going to try a few things before we increase my dose. If this is your first time on an anti-depressant, sometimes it can take a while to find the right one. When I started on citalopram, i could tell within 10 days it was working. Hope this helps...
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sarahrc, here is a link for you!
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Hi everyone, Thought I'd jump in since I was searching under the keyword "depression". I have suffered from depression most of my life (I'm 50) but just recently gave in and started a low dose medication (Prozac 10mg daily). I was diagnosed with juvenile diabetes almost 40 years ago and depression frequently goes hand in hand with diabetes. My father passed away when I was 16, and my mom when I was 39. By then I had lost all grandparents, aunts, and uncles, and I lost a baby daughter when I was 26. Her father was an extremely volitile man and I spent 10 years walking on eggshells hoping I didn't say or do the wrong thing. I have always considered myself a "bumper-car" because it seems as though I just move around on auto pilot until I bump into something or it bumps into me and I start floating another direction waiting for the next chaotic smack. I was diagnosed with triple negative breast cancer in 2010 and am still going through reconstruction after having no sparing surgery in 2010. I do take life as a half full kinda person, and have always taken on the attitude that it's better to grab the bootstraps and move on, but, man oh man, I'm tired. Sometimes I just feel like I just don't want to do this any more! The bright side is, is I'm married now to a most awesome guy, and he puts up with me and all my quirks. I do use a lot of humor to hide my pain, but again, I'm just plain tired. Prayer helps and I am a strong believer in the power of the Lord. So I'll keep trudging along and see where the next big smack sends me. Sorry, just having a sorry for myself moment.
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