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  • Jennie93
    Jennie93 Member Posts: 1,018
    edited April 2013

    Leigh, I had MX and have to do rads, thanks to positive nodes.  I was told beforehand that I would not need chemo or rads if the lymph nodes were clean.  But sadly that was not the case.  I'm 2 weeks in now, 5 to go, no problems so far.  From what I've read, getting the lymph nodes radiated does greatly increase the risk for lymphedema.  I met with a LE specialist beforehand to talk about prevention.  Any little thing I can do is worth it!  Most of her advice was basic commonsense stuff, try to avoid any kind of stress on that arm, temperature extremes, etc., no breaks in the skin, nothing tight on or around it.  OK to exercise but build up very slowly and gradually to where you were before.  If you have any specific questions or concerns about it, there is a whole LE section here filled with wonderful helpful folks.  :-)

  • Destina
    Destina Member Posts: 89
    edited April 2013

    Amy, I've been off the boards for a few days so maybe someone has already responded. But if not, green tea, which is good for us, offers caffeine that reacts more gently in our bodies. You can get it with a variety of additions. One of my favorites is green mint because I always find the mint soothing. Might help relieve your headaches.

  • Destina
    Destina Member Posts: 89
    edited April 2013

    Congrats Lemon on finishing!!!



    I'm sorry to hear how tough it's been. And I'm so happy that you're moving into the healing phase. I, too, had the 16 treatments (2.67g/day, 42.72g total) and the end got a little difficult, as the effect is cumulative. I'm out 12 days now and I do have some painful raw patches that weren't there at the end if tx, but a friend of mine (an oncology rn) said to give it 6-8 weeks. Somehow knowing that helps. Also, the aquaphor which I detested has now become my friend (mixed with antibiotic ointment) because it stops the pain and I place a piece of surgical gauze over it before covering up. Globby grease on raw patch = relief!

    Anyway, just wanted to pop in and congratulate you on finishing and sending you healing vibes!

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited April 2013

    Yeah Sneakychiquita - I was rambling all the odds every professional has quoted since the mammo and I thought...hummm. Why in I am treatment I should have gone to Vegas! With those odds I would beat the house and leave you know cxxxx there...can stay in Vegas!

    Good Tuesday! Not rolling the dice got my laser zapper:)

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited April 2013

    sneaky - I personally feel that with all cancer treatments we are gambling with the odds. Even our "experts" do not know for certain that the treatments are going to work whether it is chemotherapy or radiation. If your pathology shows a Grade 3 with LVI then that would suggest that it is a fairly aggressive cancer - that should help you with your decision. I was petrified of chemo and I am equally petrified of radiation, but also didn't feel comfortable not doing anything - so I decided to do both since that is what was recommended by my oncologists. Only time will tell if it is the right choice and even then if the cancer doesn't come back, it still may not have come back even without any treatment other than the surgery. Not to sound discouraging, but it is all a gamble - it just depends on what we can live with.

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited April 2013

    Halfway through the radiation now - 10 down - 10 to go. No redness yet although I am itchy today!!

  • AmyfromMI
    AmyfromMI Member Posts: 241
    edited April 2013

    17/30 done. Red, sore, tight, and a lovely itchy rash developing. :( Was so hoping to avoid this. Oh well. This too shall pass. Zip zap!



    Met a woman who had her last rad today and heard her ring the bell! That was such an awesome sound! I'm going to have my hubby come and take video of me ringing that bell on day 30!



    We are getting much needed rain today. I just wish it would warm up a wee bit. :-)



    I hope everyone else is fairing well with rads. Sending healing hugs to everyone. xo



    ~ Amy

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited April 2013

    Yippee! Adagio:)))

    There's something about crossing that 50 yd line and moving towards the goal line!

    Tomorrow is 20/33 so excited ... Day 28 is last full breast than 5 boosts... We both have our smiles on...polish the dancin shoes:). My RO said over the counter 1% hydrocortisone stops itch ask first.

    Breastcancer.org in recommend books has a Traditional Chinese Medicine A Women's Guide to Healing From BC. My breast center offers all sorts of classes...mediation, qigong, walking, nutrition for a whole body approach. I like concept of moving forward with a holistic approach to living ... merging W&E...not returning to old habits that may have contributed...want to be fully armed. Have everything to gain...increase my odds to get to 100! With QOL:)) like great grand parents

  • AmyfromMI
    AmyfromMI Member Posts: 241
    edited April 2013

    Yay adagio on the half way mark!!! So glad you're not red! I hope it's a good sign for the rest of your rads to come. :-) (((x)))



    Amy

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited April 2013

    AmyinMI - Pound on that bell GF:)). I want to hear it on the West Coast! Nice that hubby can come and savor the moment too!

    Talk with Rad RN or RO tomorrow for some relief...they do want so much to make this a good experience for us.

    Sending cooling calming smoothing thoughts for healing skin.

  • tuxtails
    tuxtails Member Posts: 39
    edited April 2013

    Tuxtails is here checking in....congrats on everyone who has finished tx....the ones who are close, hang in there. It has been a week and a half since I finished, healing going well. I must say I got raw and uncomfortable afterwards, but it clears up fairly quick. I only have a small red, sore area around my incision. If you can wear a bra, slather on the aquafor, place a folded soft cotton hankie over your breast...your bra will keep it in place and it keeps the aquaphor from getting all over. Wishing you all the best and a quick recovery....keep drinking lots of water!

    Tux

  • Leigh22
    Leigh22 Member Posts: 38
    edited April 2013

    Hi Jennie! Thank you for such good info. I see you started chemo about the time I did... 10/10/12. I finished 6 rounds jan. 23. I had to look twice at your avatar cause I thought it was me!!! My hair is exactly like that right now, same length and color! So happy it's growing back.



    After reading on here about ladies who have gotten lymphedemia even when only one node was taken, I am not taking any chances. I guess I'm being a little over cautious... At my ps office today, I asked if the nurse would take my blood pressure on my leg... She looked at me like I was crazy.... Or maybe it was the gorilla hair that has managed to show up on my legs out of nowhere... :o). Anyway, the leg option didn't work. My husband said they need to lie me down for it to work.



    Well, I go to the RO for the first time this Thursday so I can find out if he recommends rads or not. I've been doing a lot of reading, especially that European study about radiation after mastectomy. Now it's weird but part of me wants the RO to recommend rads... I know I'm in the grey area, one positive sent node, 4cm tumor (shrunk to 2.5 cm after chemo), HER2+,... I just am afraid of some stray cells lurking that I don't want to leave behind. The plusses I have are age 52, clear margins, no LVI involvement, grade 1 tumor.



    Okay, enough of me worrying about it...just need to see what he decides on Thursday...



    I hope you all are having a great week and are getting through all of this... (((HUGS)))

  • CTLMom
    CTLMom Member Posts: 56
    edited April 2013

    This is related to my radiation which starts today 1/30. I have not read all the posts regarding the treatment but I wondered if anyone has had a problem holding their arm up during the treatment. I had shoulder surgery many years ago for a partially torn rotater cuff and ever since then that should is really tight! I had my trial run yesterday and lost feeling in my fingers, and the shoulder was burning so bad I could hardly stand it. As soon as I put my arm down the feeling came back but my neck/shoulder muscles were so sore. I may need to ask for something to relax my muscles during the next six weeks. What an unexpected aggrevation. The techs told me other people that have had this type of surgery tell them the same thing!!! Yell

  • april485
    april485 Member Posts: 3,257
    edited April 2013

    I have bursitis in my left shoulder and I had the same issue during the CT/simulation. It was totally numb and the tech had to help me put my arm back down. It was a pain, but I guess it is something I will have to live with. Since I am doing a dose dense, 1 week rads trial 2 x a day, I won't have to deal with it as long as you do. I hope the muscle relaxers help you!

  • Jennie93
    Jennie93 Member Posts: 1,018
    edited April 2013

    The CT simulation part takes much longer than the actual treatments do. If you made it through that part, the worst is over and you should be fine for the rest. :-)

    For the daily treatments I'd guess I only have to have my arms up in that uncomfortable position for about 10 minutes or so.

  • pacools
    pacools Member Posts: 53
    edited April 2013

    What a nice board.  I finished rad 27 this morning, only three left, if I am counting correctly.  The team just says I am almost done.  7/30 of my treatments are boosts. I used to get 3 zaps each from 2 different angles now I get 2 much longer zaps from 2 different angles. My skin has been very red to dark brown, the itching I am controlling with the 1% hydrocortizone cream.  My breast is always warm and hot. Both my SLNB and lumpectomy scars are very dark brown but not too painful. What I have noticed is the jabbing sharp pain in my breast are more frequent and last longer since starting the boosts. I can honestly say I didn't know the difference between fatigue and tired until now. After my first 20+ treatments I was able to work 12 hours but that would not have been possible these last 2 weeks or so. I work for an accounting firm and it is tax season Surprised. I have also learned that hydration is really important to wash out the bad cell left after each treatment. Days that I have fallen short seem to be more challenging. My RO has been very clear it may be 4-6 weeks before I return to normal after treatment. Not that Cindy has started this new board I will be following everyone's progress. (((Hugs))) all that share this journey.

    Patty

  • Lisa1637
    Lisa1637 Member Posts: 101
    edited April 2013

    What a beautiful, inspiring, and helpful thread....thank you ladies, and Cindy for starting it!!

    Pacools, I'm sorry you're experiencing those jabbing (I call them zingers) sharp pains.  I, also, have been getting them along with overall swelling and pain in the treated breast.  At 17/33 the RO is going to move my boosts earlier in the treatments and reduce (by a few) the number of full-breast treatments.  He thinks this wll help the pain which will just progress with the treatments.  Has anyone else experienced this protocol.  After I left, I was a bit concerned with losing a few of the full treatments in terms of increasing my odds...although, RO said it was exceptable (none of this is an exact science, is it??).

    I'm still laughing at the RO calling my breasts heavy and droopy (saggy & draggy are 'D's'), despite the less than pleasing choice of words, I never have been so thankful to still have them!

    Hoping for ease and comfort for everyone!!! xoxo Lisa

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited April 2013

    Pacools - thanks for the heads up regarding the pain when the boosts start. I am imagining that this varies from person to person. You are almost done with your treatments and it seems that overall you have done really well - no blisters or broken skin - that's wonderful! I am 11/20 done and so far so good - although it is starting to get itchy! My technician recommended saline soaks for itch - haven't tried it!

    Lisa1637 - I don't think it would make too much difference in having the number of treatments reduced a little bit. Trust your RO - they should know!! If I was in a lot of pain - I would go for it - your heart will tell you what is right for you. You will get to make the final decision.

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited April 2013

    CTLMom - can you ask the technicians for some kind of support for your shoulders? They made a mould for me so that my shoulders could rest on the mould as opposed to me having to hold them there - it has been very helpful?

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited April 2013

    Hi y'all



    CTLMom - sorry that your arm is so uncomfortable, but hope you found your 1st zap went well & speedy. I know that over the days my range of motion has improved and I lay on the floor each day and ease my arms back to slowly stretch which has helped with tx. The first week my arms was so tight and uncomfortable. Best Wishes on you rads & arm:)



    Pacools - yippee! Only 3 more rads:))) congrats...better polish my Happy Dance shoes! Glad to hear your skin has done so well...encouraging. Now those zingers ugh:(( it is so interesting how individualized our protocols & zaps are...keep us posted brave warrior!



    Lisa - we are so close in our countdown you 17/33 & me 20/33:)). I would luv my RO to suggest escaping a few zaps...so if your RO recommends they know best. This site has info on different protocols and some are less total grays...ie 30G or 40G or 50G. RO will direct you to the right course of tx for you. Trust:). Sorry that you are in such pain & swelling. Yes, I'm gratefull to still have my girl and be able to feel...we're goin make our relationship work!



    Adagio - yeah, 11/20 you are more than half way:)). RO recommended 1% hydrocortisone for itch, but I found emu oil has been the most helpful. Hang in there doing good:) like that they made a special mold just for you:)))



    Jennie - welcome:). Where are you on your countdown? It does help to know that the actual rad time is less than the time for simulation.



    April - BDay girl:) try some easy stretches to help arm...keep lubing that girl! I'm so jealous of your week long clinical trial rads...you will do well!



    Sending happy skin happy girl thoughts to all!

    (((Hugs)))

    Cindy

  • AmyfromMI
    AmyfromMI Member Posts: 241
    edited April 2013

    Okay, I just read something distressing. I've been taking a daily multi vitamin and just read that you should avoid taking supplements while undergoing radiation!!! My RO never mentioned this. Should I be concerned, especially that I have only 12 treatments left? I'm scared. If it isn't one thing it's another. Gah!



    Hope everyone is doing well! xoxoxo

  • Lisa1637
    Lisa1637 Member Posts: 101
    edited April 2013

    Thanks for the encouragement, Adagio!!  And you're so right about what you said earlier on...all this being a gamble.  Best any of us can do is feel at peace with our decisions.  xo Lisa

  • Lisa1637
    Lisa1637 Member Posts: 101
    edited April 2013

    Cindy...

    "we're goin make our relationship work."  Laughing over that one!!!! Smile

    20/33...you're doin it girl!!!

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited April 2013

    AmyinMI - I wouldn't worry about taking the supplements at all. There is a lot of controversy about taking supplements, antioxidants, vitamins etc during chemotherapy and radiation. Some people carry on taking them and some people stop them altogether. If you feel more comfortable stopping them - then that's what you do. As for myself - I continue to take my vitamin D, fish oil, calcium, B vitamins, and some other aminoacids. I did my research on supplements during radiation and feel comfortable with what I am taking and I have discussed it with my physician at my integrative health care centre.  From what I have read, it is best to stay away from the powerful antioxidants.  A daily vitamin should be just fine. However, do talk it over with your oncologist and see what he/she says. 

  • lemon68
    lemon68 Member Posts: 684
    edited April 2013

    Hi All

    2 days out from last of 16/16.. had to see RO today. Silvadene, prescription hydrocortisone and pure vicodine all given. I am using all 3 generously. Blisters, nipple began to bleed last night, peeling and my aereola has completed peeled off revelaing pink raw flesh. What a mess I still am. He said in about 5-7 days the worst will be over. If not improved in 10 days come back in. He said he has seen worse but my reaction is not typical, I thought this was going to be no big deal, that will teach me.

    I am glad most of you are handling it well. If not dont wait like me to get the prescriptions you need for some releif. I am not sure I would have done it if I had known this was going to happen. I am having serious regrets about not having a BMX, I hope I can learn to accept my decisions but right now they are keeping me up at night.

    Thanks for letting me let it out.

    Lemon

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited April 2013

    Ouch Lemon:((

    So sorry that rads have been so horrific on your body and spirit...ugh

    Wish there was some way to make it better fast...speed up time so this was all in your past. Our pasts too.

    This is serious laser tag...each day is full of unknowns. We are all holding our breath, but trusting for the best.

    And you have given your best to fight this horrible disease! Don't second guess yourself...you are a brave warrior... At support group I talk with other bc rad survivors ... They are happy they fought to keep their girl....and I have heard some of their horror stories too! But time has past and they say say would do it again.

    Sending healing thoughts for speedy recovery (((hugs)))

    Cindy

  • Sneakychiquita
    Sneakychiquita Member Posts: 292
    edited April 2013

    Lemon - A mastectomy is no guarantee that rads wouldn't have been recommended.  I cried many nights over needing a mastectomy (multifocal disease with too much distance between tumors for lumpectomies) but I thought at least that's all I'd need.  Hah!  I've just finished chemo and am likely about to begin rads.  Fingers crossed your skin heals and you're left with a beautifully natural boob.

  • Lisa1637
    Lisa1637 Member Posts: 101
    edited April 2013

    (((Lemon68)))  Sending comforting thoughts your way!!!  xoxo Lisa

  • whatshesaid17
    whatshesaid17 Member Posts: 2
    edited April 2013

    On April 1 I finished 30/32 doses. I've been dealing with fatigue, burn-blisters, some pain and general discomfort. I had some kind of virus last week (headache-naseau that comes and goes) and called in sick on April 2, and haven't been back for last 2 boosters.

    Its against medical advice and I will consider going back next week to finish.

    I guess my attitude is a bit flip and I'm feeling a bit onery about the rads. Its a gamble all around.

    On the bright side, I have a colonoscopy to look forward to next week LOL.

    I have been offered Tamoxifen but have -so far- decided against pharmacology.

    I don't know what is more intimidating...Stage 0 DCIS or longterm SEs of radiation and powerful drugs.

    I will likely explore alternatives and haved located a Natuotropathic Oncologist (official title may not be exact). There are 3 in CT.

    One REALLY helpful thing I got from the rad nurse today is a gel pad that protects the skin where its blistered and peeling. I dont know why she didnt offer it sooner. Its the kind of thing that chips away at my confidence in conventional treatment. The gel pad does need to be held in place...but its so much thicker and larger (circular) than the gauze nonstick pads...that I could wear a bra without any discomfort.

    In her pitch to get me to finish treatment, the nurse estimated I am about 2/3 completed with fullcourse.

    Not sure how rad math works, but I'm interested to hear more from anyone who can speak on topic.

    Best wishes and quick recovery to all you other spring rad ladies.

    And, as they say in Panem, "May the odds be ever in your favor."

  • AmyfromMI
    AmyfromMI Member Posts: 241
    edited April 2013

    Thank you adagio! I meet with my RO tomorrow so I will ask her about the supplement and vitamin concern as well. It just kind of freaked me out that I would read about it before so far into my rads treatment. Maybe I should just stop reading?! lol!



    Sending hugs again, Kim! I keep telling myself "this too shall pass." But I'm so glad you got the meds! They will help with the pain and hopefully help speed the healing. I'm so sorry you're in such pain.



    Whatshesaid, I'm sending healing hugs to you! Good luck with your decisions. Only you know what is best for you. 😊 My neighbor had BC a few years ago (maybe 10 years out now 😃) and she refused rads and tamoxifen and went the alternative way. Shes doing great! We live in Michigan. She traveled to New York for her treatment. With respect to rads, I am going for 30 treatments, 2 gray per day. I will have 23 full breast rads and 7 boosts, but each treatment is still 2 gray. I don't understand it. It's just what I was told. I'm going to ask my RO to explain it in further detail tomorrow. It seems like a high number but, like I said, I don't understand it. I was never good at math anyway.



    Good night all! ((((x))))



    ~ Amy

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