DIM Estrogen Blood tests.

I am soooo confused when it comes to controlling my estrogen with breast cancer. Of course, my onc wishes to push Tamoxifen upon me, but I have chosen to control my estrogen through DIM etc etc....But, now I run across this quote from Dr. Gonzalez and his references to studies on estrogen and I am even more confused than ever! any thoughts?

"There was a misguided comment about estrogen's effect on breast cancer, and a strong criticism of Suzanne Somers for recommending estrogen in a patient with the disease.
Having followed the science of estrogen and breast cancer since I began my research career as a medical student 30 years ago, let me assure readers that the scientific community has very little idea what estrogens (there are at least 22 different estrogens) do to breast cancer. During the 1960's and 1970's before the advent of tamoxifen and other "hormone blockers," oncologists routinely prescribed Premarin or DES, a synthetic estrogen, to their patients with recurrent or metastatic breast cancer. The hormone treatment, still in the texts into the 1980s, fell out of favor with the development of the "hormone blockers."
The recent re-evaluation of the Women's Health Initiative data published just weeks ago, investigated the effet of Premarin, a synethetic estrogen, prescribed to women after hysterectomy. A control group of women who had undergone hysterectomy received no hormone. To everyone's surprise, the estrogen supplemented group had 25% less breast cancer, not more as was expected, contradicting the previous general consensus. There are significant conventional reports over the years showing estrogens do not stimulate breast cancer growth dangerously, but may promote breast cell differentiation. The National Cancer Institute is currently funding a study investgiating the use of high dose estrogen in the treatment of recurrent or metastatic breast cancer.
Also most breast cancer occurs as women age - when estrogen production drops dramatically. If estrogen were the dangerous culprit, breast cancer would be epidemic among teenage girls and women in their 20s, instead of the rare disease it is in these populations.
Nothing in medicine is simple, and Suzanne was not an idiot for suggesting a breast cancer patient consider estrogen treatment, whatever the BRCA status may be."
NG

Yep...same Dr. Gonzalez...I was going to apply to him, but cannot afford him right now...I am going to see if I can get in to Dr. Wong in NYC asap for herbal meds...

This is the most current word on the WHI and HRT:

http://www.breastcancer.org/research-news/20130403

Here is the NCI's published finding:

http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2013/03/21/jnci.djt043.abstract?sid=73234df2-82f6-429f-a3dd-b6cd915b9adb

I would like to hear more about Dr. Gonzalez findings about the different types of estrogen and how it could be used for metastatic disease. I've heard about using estrogen to treat before....from my oncologist, whom is not cutting edge at all.

Still, I have to look at facts. I had been on an estrogen patch just prior to diagnosis (after taking lupron to shrink uterine fibroids). I beleive the lump might have been there prior to starting the patch but it grew sooooo big and fast while on the patches.

Anyway, from my experience it's a bad idea to experiment with the idea that estrogen can help us, but on the other hand, I am open to learning about the science regarding this theory. Maybe there is good estrogen and bad estrogen. If anyone knows more, or has more info, very curious here.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/12/12/healthmag.breast.cancer.estrogen/



Here is an article I found about treating mbca with estrogen. Very interesting and definitely will remember this. I hope the link works with my phone but to summarise, its used when AIs stop working. When the c becomes resistant to AIs it gets confused and the E actually stops or slows the c. When the estrogen stops working you can go back on a Ai and they will sometimes work again!