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  • Timbek2
    Timbek2 Member Posts: 204
    edited April 2013

    Thankful machine worked today. Fatigue setting in this week. Nurse suggested Benadryl for itching. Only using miaderm and aloe. Skin pink and itchy. Just so ready to be done. Kids in spring break. Not having much fun. ;(

  • Cancer-schmancer
    Cancer-schmancer Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2013

    Hello everyone. First post in this thread. Today was 10/33 for me. So far, so good. I haven't had any SE's yet, but I know they're coming.

    I have chosen to make the best of this journey by entertaining my rad techs. Every day, I put a different message on my breast or torso, on my "good" side. I use stickers and/or markers. If the saying needs a graphic, I grab something off of Google images and tape it on. Some examples: f cancer, cancer you're fired (with picture of Donald), Toast the Ta Ta (with picture of toaster), Does this radiation make my butt look fat?, etc. It's really fun. They are excited to see what I have each day. I live in Indiana which is a big basketball state. Most of my techs went to Indiana University. I went to the rival school, so I put some trash talk on my body when they were still in the tournament. They got me back. They said they needed to make some more markings on my body. I didn't realize what was going on, but I left with red IU stuff written all over me. They used permanent markers so it took a few days to wash away.

    I am drinking lots of water, getting about 70 grams of protein a day and constantly lubing the boob. So far, so good.

    Good luck everyone. We can do this!

  • AmyfromMI
    AmyfromMI Member Posts: 241
    edited April 2013

    Cancer-schmancer, your story is my belly laugh for the day! I love it! Your sense of humor is fab and it sounds like your tech team is loving it, too. Thank you for your post. I'd love to hear more as each day passes for you.



    I am 12/30 and rightie is starting to itch. It's still as red as it was from day 2, which is good, I guess. :-) But the itching is not so good. May have to try benedryl or hydrocortisone if it gets worse.



    I am 2 zips on the left and one zap on the right of my right breast. Seems like 15 seconds, 5 seconds, and 20 seconds. Very quick.



    Kim, I can't imagine double dosing. Am thankful for my 30 treatments. I really hope you heal quickly and the itching doesn't get any worse.



    Good night all! And good luck hunting tomorrow during laser tag! Take no prisoners!



    ~ Amy



  • lemon68
    lemon68 Member Posts: 684
    edited April 2013

    Hi Cindy and Placid,

    Corn starch I will have to give it try. I am so afraid if I start itching I wont stop!! lol... insane. Cindy, I will be stopping tomorrow for some hydrocrotisone cream. I have the aquaphor, aloe vera and yesterday got the Aveeno. I like the Aveeno. Skin is burning but it is soft so I know I am lubbing it up enough. I am in a cami tonight, I have teen boys so as much as DH would like it I am covered up! Smile

    2 zaps? We are the same DX other than your IDC and I am ILC. Wonder why I have 7? I will ask the tech about the grays tomorrow. Some of my zaps are short some are long. I can see a perfect square burned into my skin, they percision is great..lol

    Thank you for the tips. I am going to take a xanax and let it knock me out.

  • lemon68
    lemon68 Member Posts: 684
    edited April 2013

    Amy- Your doing well, we are doing this!! I like the take no prisoners! 3 zaps.. I will be asking tomorrow. They showed me my staging it looked like a big laser board game, comes from both sides all over the place. My tumor was 2 mm so its odd I am getting so zapped I thought we all had about 7-8 minutes and as many zaps.

    Timbek- Benedryl, added it to my list of things to get. Thank you.

    C Schmancer- my techs would love you!

    Thanks again all of you for the info and Cindy for the thread. XO

  • josie123
    josie123 Member Posts: 1,817
    edited April 2013

    Today was 19/33

    I noticed yesterday that my clavicle area upper chest is a little tight .My Ro said it is probably the skin getting a little tighter.My attention span has been pretty short and I've been a little forgetful.Kind of foggy

    That is kind of scared huh?

  • april485
    april485 Member Posts: 3,257
    edited April 2013

    OMG...can I run away now????? Lemon, since I am getting the 2 x a day 1 week HUGE GRAYS tx protocol, I am now officially chitting my pants. Itching? I HATE to itch. I will be CT scanned each day so my tx will take longer. They have to literally measure my breathing patterns to make sure that my dose goes EXACTLY where it needs to since it is a partial breast rad. Ugh...I am taking stock out on corn starch and benadryl tomorrow.

    BTW, if you are taking tamoxifen, don't take benadryl with it. I was reading what drugs do not go with tamoxifen and benadryl was on the list. Makes the tamox ineffective! Just a tip.

    Hugs to all of you brave ladies. I am next...thanks for forging the trail!

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited April 2013

    Josie - this is serious laser tag...Amy said take no prisoners ... And there's a toll going into battle...each day there's an unknown element...but feel so blessed that I have this tx in my arsenal...dispute skin issues, fatigue, and foggy count down mode, but we are counting down you are almost home yippee!

    All I know to do is ask, ask, ask ... Each day I ask...have rad rn (yeah that darn rn is a problem for you:( is this too bumpy or tight. I try and check out all services offered here...tomorrow is a chair massage:) next week cancer dietitian yeah!

    Be kind to yourself...tae it easy...you've been on high alert since Dec...it takes a toll.

    Ask for physical therapist ... Ask ask ...rest(((hugs))) sweet healing renewing dream!

    Cindy

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited April 2013

    april485 - do you know how many Gray you are getting each day? I get 2.65 Gray every day for 16 treatments, and then I will get 2.5 Gray for 4 boosts on the tumour bed. I see that your radiation is on the left side - so is mine - I do the special breathing to move my heart out of the beam of the radiation. I saw my RO today and she told me that my heart was completely out of the way - so that was good news. They took pictures for the first 3 days of treatment to be certain. My skin is a little bit itchy, but nothing much yet. I will be there again at 8 am tomorrow morning. One treatment at a time. Good luck and keep us up to date with your progress.

  • ChiefsFan
    ChiefsFan Member Posts: 5
    edited April 2013

    Hey Everyone - first timer here. Just found this community today and have been reading posts for hours. I don't understand all the abbreviations but I think I'm catching on. Does tx stand for treatment?  What are SEs? Today I completed 17/33 treatments and this is the first I've heard about drinking lots of water! Seems I'm the only one who doesn't know about the importance of hydration during radiation.  I've been focusing so much on what to put on and not to put on my skin that I forgot about taking care of my skin from the inside - makes sense though. I'm a little red, a little sore and starting to get a rash on the edges of my incision. I'm terrified of what's coming.  Everyone keeps talking about wearing sports bras and loose T-shirts to work toward the last weeks of treatment but I already am in too much pain to wear any kind of bra. I wear silly shirts with ruffles in front to hide my freakish breasts and they are starting to rub against my skin.  I'm a teacher and I have to be careful what I wear to work.  I can't wear a t shirt without a bra to work and layers don't work because my hot flashes are so severe. Any ideas?  I'm a single mom and have had to work through this whole thing alone and I've about had enough. I think it's great that everyone on this thread is so positive and I'm hoping it will rub off on me because I'm just not there. It's been almost a year since my first surgery and I'm still an emotional mess. I can't find the bright side to any of this and I really hope you ladies can help me see it. Hope no one else is as miserable as I am.

  • QueenKong
    QueenKong Member Posts: 154
    edited April 2013

    Welcome CheifsFan. Hi Everyone.

    I'm suffering with burns under my breast. They sent me home after a 2-3 hour wait with no treatment because the burn was too much and my Radiation Oncologist didn't want to do it. I'm trying to get more air to the area. I'm taking percocet. I hope I sleep tonight. I've had 28 full treatment with 5 boosts to go which I delayed  until I heal up some. It's all raw, red and angry. I used a bazzilion cremes, was hydrated and did well, right up until those last days. It is what it is. I'm on a break til Thursday then they are going to look at it.

    Like Chiefsfan, I am going to focus more on the inside and have more protein, beverages. I am going to drink aloe! and do some research. There has to be something more I can do to get through this.

    Yes, I am miserable but this I can do. The pain is making me bitchy though & distracted. It's hard to focus & sleep. 

    I'm going to think about some exotic vacation and the sex life I plan to have when this is over.

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited April 2013

    Welcome ChiefsFan & wow 17/33 you are rocking rads!

    There is a spot to check on lingo...tx treatment, SE side effects, RO radiological oncologist, lx lumpectomy, dx diagnosis ...see your a pro:).

    This site & boards are such good tools. Informed warriors and a whole team to support standing with ya. The cheer hydrate, moisturize, eat well, rest, exercise, sleep, and be kind to yourself. Make sure you share all changes to your skin with your rad team...my incision has red bumpy rash too:( will share with RO in the morning.

    Try to stay focus on just today don't get ahead of this...not sure about your journey so far ...update your profile.

    Single mom yah been there...a son..challenge but so worth it. Teacher you're right not to cool being bra less...I lube leftie slip on soft cotton cami the a soft cheap sports bra and then get dressed. I use cornstarch with a new clean blush brush to powder up...and lube up during the day.

    Positive yes no we all have our days. But here we can laugh cry vent and share...safe.

    Does your breast center offer other services? Mine has a support group, an oncologist social worker who is the best, exercise, mediation, PT, and meditation so great to be here for treatment. I take advantage of all services. I want to give this battle everything I can to win!

    Hope you have a great support system- family friends ... & now you have us. Will be you appointment pocket buddies...everyone needs them...we've got ya:)

    Together we stand strong - fierce warriors(((hugs)))

    Cindy

  • april485
    april485 Member Posts: 3,257
    edited April 2013

    Adagio, I am not sure how many Grays I will be getting each day but I am sure gonna find out! I do know that it is "dose dense" because of the shorter tx protocol. It is "partial breast irradiation" so it will likely be less than whole breast but not really sure. It is a clinical trial for one week rads 2 x a day. Due to the daily CT scans, I will be getting more radiation from those too but not the burning kind. I will also likely be doing the breath hold to get my heart out of the field since it is my left but she has not told me if I will need to for sure. My boobs are not big so not sure if partial is really possible for me...my whole boob will likely be in the field anyway she said.

    Nervous about those SE's but I know I will do this and be ok. After all, I have tons of information so many women never get if they don't come here! I will be done very quickly which is the plus. I will have twice a day..once at 7:30am and the second tx at 1:30pm. I will go to work in between if I can and am feeling up to it.

    Who knows what I will face? Since my tx is so different than everyones, I have nothing to base it off of except those who are having the 16 tx protocol which is the closest to mine that I have. I am nervous...but I know I can do this!

  • SherylB
    SherylB Member Posts: 450
    edited April 2013

    Hi all,

    I found this web site very helpful for how to deal with radiation skin, sun, dietary and other issues.

    Hugs, Sheryl

    http://www.breastcancer.org/treatment/radiation/skin/care

  • braids3
    braids3 Member Posts: 173
    edited April 2013

    Hi I'm new to this tread i am stage 4 waiting on my cyberknife before i start rads to breast i have not had mx or lumpec was totld only that i was going to have 6.5 weeks. i will stay on my chemo during it. any one else have anything similar. should i start lubeing now what other thing do i need to do, know or ask?

    thanks chris

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited April 2013

    Welcome braids3/Chris,



    So glad you found us, but sorry that you must join us...ugh this cancer :((

    Not sure of your status you may wish to update your profile...

    If you are awaiting final word before surgery I would say breathe! Pamper yourself find joy in each day and laugh:). Do not get to far ahead of the journey...focus on today...tomorrow will come soon enough.

    For now follow your teams leading...eat well, exercise, hydrate, relax, take good care of your skin and enjoy family and friends...laughter is so key...blow bubbles! LOL

    When it's time you will be full to the brim with joy and zip zap through rads! (((Hugs)))

    Cindy

  • april485
    april485 Member Posts: 3,257
    edited April 2013

    Hi Chris! It's me Wink

    Cindy, you should have been a cheerleader for the Dallas Cowboys! You are so upbeat! Glad you are on my side. We will get this rads stuff DONE and be on the mend before summer!

    Hi SherylB! Thanks for the link!

  • placid44
    placid44 Member Posts: 497
    edited April 2013

    Chiefsfan,



    Welcome. Re ideas on what to wear: how about a cotton camisole instead of a bra? I have tissue expanders (TEs) in right now and only expanded to a B, so I can go without a bra for now. But I've only done 6/28 treatments. When my skin gets irritated I plan to wear a camisole.



    Re emotions, I would just say look forward to when treatments end (it's wearing on me, too, after 7 months), focus on the fact that the treatments are reducing our risk of problems, and create a list of new things you want to do and try when treatments are over. Also eat well and rest. I've completely changed my diet and I think it is helping. Also consider seeing an oncology counselor for tips. I plan to at least once.

  • april485
    april485 Member Posts: 3,257
    edited April 2013

    Placid, what is an oncology counselor? I am at Yale and have a ton of complimentary peeps I am meeting with and can get massages, accupuncture, counseling with a social worker, smoking cessation etc. But, what is an OC? That is a new one to me!

    Hi Chiefsfan!

  • QueenKong
    QueenKong Member Posts: 154
    edited April 2013

    Welcome braids3, I would say keep hydrated and form good exercise habits as best you can to prepare.

  • placid44
    placid44 Member Posts: 497
    edited April 2013

    Counselor who specializes in working with people with cancer. They have "OCs" at the Life With Cancer center I go to in Northern Virginia.

  • momtotenkids
    momtotenkids Member Posts: 53
    edited April 2013

    I had treatment 8/30 today. I am so glad I am here reading the boards today. I kept thinking something was wrong because I feel so tired. Not only tired, I seem to have just about every SE you can get. The brain fog, heart burn..and the red swollen boob and arm. I did not even try to take my karate class last night. I just wanted a pillow and blanket so I could sleep. I hate being this tired! I hate not being able to carry a conversation because I cannot remember what I was saying. Oh and the heartburn!!! I already was battling it but now it is horrible. It was comforting to know that others are having difficulties too and that I am not alone. My mind keeps going to the dark place....wondering if the cancer has spread somewhere else. I try to be strong for the kids and my husband but days like today are just overwhelming. OK..done whinning...putting my big girl panties back on and going to feed the 9 children whining about dinner!

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited April 2013

    Momtotenkids - you are so not alone!



    Today is 15/33:) and at the BC I had a 30 min chair massage purr...then down to 30 min mediation hummm ...where I found tear running down my face...we were to go in a time capsule to a long ago happy place..feel, hear, enjoy, and I felt raindrops on my face...a little girl surrounded by love...then we came back dong...it was time for rads. Took my happy place with me, but was so overpowered by the raindrops on my face...

    I think those warm secure feelings of love are what we want to give those we love despite feeling shaken to are core... (((Hugs)))

    Cindy

  • lemon68
    lemon68 Member Posts: 684
    edited April 2013

    momtotenkids- I am so glad you posted about the brainfog. I forgot my debit card pin and I am literally writing things down, I didnt know if it was the exhaustion or I was just crazy. Might be a bit of both, glad I am not alone.

    XO

    Cindy- ((hugs)) to you.

  • josie123
    josie123 Member Posts: 1,817
    edited April 2013

    I found out today that my boosts will start next Thursday and that I only have 6 more Rads then 7 boosts.Yeah!!! I think I can...I think I can..Speaking of foggy.Last night I climbed out of the shower and started to put my deodorant on..I only do that in the morning not before bed..I just laughed as my husband said "what are you doing?"

    Mom of ten hang in there.You have every reason to be tired.I only have 3 kids and I'm still tired.It won't last forever don't let it scare you just keep up the extra protein and water.

  • Cancer-schmancer
    Cancer-schmancer Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2013

    Hello ladies! I can't tell you how relieved I am to read about others having brain fog. I am an event planner and spend my days working with minute details. Recently, my co-worker who sits next to me has very politely corrected some of the stuff I have been mishandling. It's embarrassing! What do you suppose it is? Are we just so distracted with the cancer? Alzheimer's runs heavily in my family, and it scares me to death to be feeling this way.

    On a brighter note, I just wanted to remind everyone of how fortunate we are that modern medicine can treat this beast. My aunt died from breast cancer when she was only 47. That was 45  years ago. I think about her often. I don't think they even had mammograms back then, and I'm sure the treatments were nothing like today. So while we feel bitchy, tired, itchy, sore and have that brain fog, let's all remember why we're doing this. This too shall pass and will become just a bump in the road.

    So let's go get zapped and be one day closer to done. Have a great evening everyone.

  • lemon68
    lemon68 Member Posts: 684
    edited April 2013

    I found this, the link is below this is just the beginning of the short article.

    Cancer Brain Fog

    What Causes It and What You Can Do About It

    by Pamela Joyce Shapiro, PhD

    Knowledge image

    Cancer survivors face a number of physical, mental, and psychosocial challenges that diminish quality of life and alter one’s sense of self. Brain changes that affect a person’s cognitive identity – the thinking, capable, intelligent self – can be especially troubling.

    What is cancer brain fog?
    Following a cancer diagnosis, many survivors experience a sense of cognitive loss – the feeling that one’s mental abilities are slower and less acute than before – as if the brain is in a fog. Problems with memory and concentration are the most common cognitive complaints, and some people report difficulties following directions, finding the right words, or performing simple calculations. Complex tasks, like planning or organizing activities, can be especially challenging for survivors with cognitive symptoms, and multitasking may seem impossible.

    Although cancer-related cognitive changes are sometimes called chemo brain or chemo fog, these terms are misleading. Symptoms of cognitive loss often occur before cancer treatment begins and can affect people who are treated with surgery, radiation, and hormonal therapy, as well as those who undergo a course of chemotherapy or immunotherapy.

    Many survivors experience a sense of cognitive loss, as if the brain is in a fog.

    http://copingmag.com/cwc/index.php/feature_article/cancer_brain_fog/

    We are all in this togethor.

  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited April 2013

    Count me in.  I don't think I'm having brain fog from radiation itself yet, but from the wearing daily hassle of getting to the treatment center (40+ miles each way) and the emotional toll of just finally having cancer in my face every day, after a longish break following surgery.  I teach at the college level.  Last week I COULD NOT REMEMBER some basic terms in class, struggled to write familiar words correctly on the board, and even had trouble reading a passage out loud.  My students don't know about my BC, but they looked a little alarmed at my fumblings.  I've only done 8/30 so it may get worse before it gets better.  (At first I wrote 7/30.  There it is again.  You'd think I'd get that one right!)

    Cancer-schmancer, of course you are totally right, and thank you for the reminder.  I'm sorry to hear about your aunt.  That must make this diagnosis extra spooky for you.  I see you and I are on almost identical schedules!  We will all do this.

  • Cancer-schmancer
    Cancer-schmancer Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2013

    Lemon, thank you for posting that article. I may actually make an appointment with a neurologist if this doesn't clear after radiation. After all, I won't know what to do with myself if I don't have any doctor appointments. Wink

  • ChiefsFan
    ChiefsFan Member Posts: 5
    edited April 2013

    Thanks for the welcome everyone - today was 18/33 and I'm burned, itchy and sore. i was told today, for the first time, that the radiation would be going thru to my back and all this time I should've been lubing that area of my back (which I can't even reach!). I'm frustrated because I've tried so hard throughout this nightmare to be educated about my treatments and SEs and I'm told halfway through about my back; also I asked today about staying hydrated and my techs said it wasn't necessary and wouldn't matter. I'm so confused about all the conflicting info. I've heard. I'm mostly confused about whether or not to put lotion/Aquaphor/emu oil/aloe (another question - which is really best for the skin?) on the radiated area in the morning after I shower. Everyone says don't put on anything before radiation - how many hours before? I don't go to tx until 3pm and if I don't put on anything after I shower my skin gets dry and itchy. I made sure to get a lotion without metals or fragrance and I put it on 7 hrs before tx. Is that okay? I certainly don't want to make it worse! Clothing has become a huge issue suddenly. I have burns from my collar bone to below the boob and over to my underarm. Anything touching the skin hurts and no way can I handle the pressure of a sports bra. I haven't been able to wear a bra of any kind since my first surgery 10 months ago. Lots of women say to wear soft cotton camis underneath shirts but I'm having serious hot flashes and I can't imagine wearing two layers. Anyone else experiencing hot flashes? Know of any remedies that work? Just another treat courtesy of BC!

    QueenKong- hope you find relief for your burns and if you do, please let me know what works as I'm just starting the really painful part and have at least 4 more weeks of burning and pain from what I hear.

    RMlulu - thanks for the lingo lesson - it helps! Did your RO say what to do about the rash on your incision? Mine got a little worse today. I see my RO tomorrow so I'll sk her. I've heard it's good to put A&D ointment on it but I've also heard that's not a good idea so, again, not sure what to do! My breast center offers all kinds of support groups and services but I work full-time, have two kids, and don't have any help. I also do some grocery shopping and light housework for my mom -  so, no help there either! I have a couple of friends who try to help in some way when they can but they also work & have kids so I'm pretty much on my own day to day. Life is hard.

    placid44 - thanks for the ideas. I eat well and rest, not sleep, quite a bit and I agree those things help. As far as focusing on radiation reducing the risk of more problems, I have a hard time with that because I'm not so sure I believe it's true. I'm trying not to think about all the other horrible things radiation might cause but I can't help it. Finding out today that it's going through my body to my back is really freaking me out. Don't know if I would have agreed to do it if I had known that.

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