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  • LeeA
    LeeA Member Posts: 1,660
    edited March 2013

    Lauren, you make a very good point!  Smile

  • macyhen111
    macyhen111 Member Posts: 754
    edited March 2013

    Thanks dea, I have been drinking cran grape juice and love it. I also find that if I eat spicier foods they taste a little better then bland foods. I have to drink my water cold or it makes me nauseous. Before chemo plain water was my drink of choice. I'll take these minimal se's over some of the bad ones any day.

  • ywheels22
    ywheels22 Member Posts: 230
    edited March 2013

    Lauren: I had dbl mastectomy immediate recon. I did not have any fat so my PS used cadevar skin. The surgery was 6.5 hours long which included lymph node removal. For me, personally, I wanted the cancer gone and was worried because of my small size, the margin wouldnt be enough and I would have a deformed boob. I had a 17mm tumor on right breat and a 4 mm tumor in one sentinal node. Left side was clean but i had already decided to yank that one as well. Neither boob was my friend anymore. For me it was the right choice. All the cancer is gone I am doing chemo as a preventative measure, to make sure no bastard little cells escaped. I have nice perky small B's now. I was barely an A before. Recovery is about 8-10 weeks but I started chemo 3 weeks postoperative so that was not easy. They feel pretty good now but there is a numb feeling, like they are just there. That will go away and I will get used to them not really feeling like my old boobs. Its a very personal decision. I hope this helped and good luck.



    Bryona: yes grr is right! And ugh and....well a few swear words here for good measure. I am so happy to hear your positive feelings on Taxol. I start my first of 4 next Wed. After this last AC and being sick, I think anything will be better. It has to be, right?!

  • Lauren15
    Lauren15 Member Posts: 119
    edited March 2013

    ywheels22 - thanks for your personal story.  I feel the same.  They are no longer my friends, and I also don't want to have to do radiation.  I'd rather just feel that I'm recovering from plastic surgery.  I think if they use my stomach muscles, it's equivalent to a tummy tuck, the operation would be longer, and recovery even worse.  However, a tummy tuck too, paid by insurance - I'M IN!!!

  • Nicole503
    Nicole503 Member Posts: 295
    edited March 2013

    Bryona ~ <<Okay, I know it's only been 6 days, but so far I'm a big, big fan of Taxol and Herceptin.>>  Hooray!!!  You deserve a break today.  Laughing

  • jocanuck1951
    jocanuck1951 Member Posts: 1,003
    edited March 2013

    Hi Lauren, I'm on Abraxine 3x 1off and hercepton every 3rd week. If there's a side effect on anything I get it so take this with a a grain of salt......anything to do with mucus membranes on my body it attacks...from my eyeballs to my vagina...hair and nails, swelling and joints.....0....did I mention fatigue? This week they gave me off as my UTI was knocking me out, 2nd one this month. I told them I was dying so they cancelled this weeks treatment. Even the tears from my watery eyes are burning my cheeks....I had an anafalactic reaction to taxol so don't go by me! I drink a ton of water.

  • cancernoway
    cancernoway Member Posts: 90
    edited March 2013

    Wheels - it sounds like you might be a little dehydrated.  When I had my colon removed I was blessed with the forever SE of easy dehydration.  Being dizzy when I stand up for a few seconds is almost always a sure fire sign.  The fastest way to get back on track is a sport drink.  I usually keep one next to my bed and if I wake up during the night, I take a drink then.  You will rarely see me without a water bottle, iced tea or a sport drink.  When I feel bad though is normally when I lose track of that because I tend to sleep more and sleep time is hard on my body for keeping fluids in it.  I'm sorry you are still feeling bad.  My MO gave me cough syrup with codeine but no antibiotics since I only had a low grade fever for about 8 hours the first day so no infection.  He also told me to take Robitussin DM and Tylenol and when my throat settled down to use one spray of nasal spray per side so I could breathe.  He told me to gargle the Biotene mouthwash that I use but to not use throat spray until my throat didn't feel like an inferno or it would just burn.  He also told me to drink, drink, drink, which I've been working so hard to do.  I hope you get feeling better soon.  This has completely sucked!  Do you take Claritin for bone pain from Neulasta?  I wonder if it would help also?

    Bryona - My sister is amazing and she would love you too.  She is so funny because she always feels like she isn't doing enough.  She set up a calendar with co-workers of the days that I feel flat out crappy and they take turns making my husband and I meals and she brings them out to us.  Again, we work together so when I'm at work she is checking on me and we have lunch together everyday.  She calls or texts me every night to see if I need anything or if she needs to get anything on the way to work. She knows what day I have drop ass, so on those days she checks in with my husband, just in case.  Our mom lives in Florida and our dad passed away 11 years ago so as for biological family, we are all we have, and her son.  She is my best friend.  When I was diagnosed, it just about killed her.  Every MD appt she went with us so she knew what was going on at all times and once she knew I was going to be okay and that my attitude was good, then she became the organizer.  She is quite hilarious and we both have very sarcastic sense of humors so sometimes us together is a lot for some people.  Then when our mom is here and you add her and my nephew to the mix, it can sometimes get ugly, lol.   I'm so glad that Taxol is treating you so well.  You so deserve it after the crap you went through before. 

    Lee - It was pretty hysterical when she came up and turned my computer off and grabbed my purse.  Then she walked me out to my truck to make sure I left.  Seriously, I was almost afraid not to at that point in time.   I hope you SE are better than last time and they go away FAST!!!  You are one treatment and one day ahead of me (and I'm planning on keeping it that way!).  If they tell me they want to postpone my treatment, I'm gonna try that whining thing and see if I get my way as well.  But from what I've read from the other girls, a cold shouldn't do too much.  Fingers crossed that counts are good!!! 

    I'll keep you posted and I'm taking my tablet with me tomorrow.  I'll try to post while there, but remember I'm not the greatest poster on that stupid thing.  I spell like a 3 year old for some reason. 

  • cancernoway
    cancernoway Member Posts: 90
    edited March 2013

    Oh yeah, does anybody else think that hot foods taste gross even after your tastes buds have "recovered" (I use that word loosely).  Hot foods, no matter how I cook them have no taste.  I made chili tonight because I thought it sounded good.  All I could taste was meat.  No spices, not tomato sauce, nothing.  So I ate a peanut butter sandwich.  It was fine.  I noticed it last time with some pasta too.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2013

    Cancernoway I don't know if it is the same think but I can't stand anything tomato based or made with red chili these days. Still can't eat salads either :*(  I love green chili and have to say peanut butter is my best friend. I hope you get to feeling better and don't have a delay in treatment.

    ywheels hope you also get to feeling better!

    Dea43 so sorry your dates got pushed. At least the Easter bunny will be in full swing hiding eggs Sat. night. I was worried on how I would pull this off as Easter will be my bad weekend - no Sunday ham for me. But on the bright side I shouldn't be sleeping so I can help the bunny stuff and hide eggs. The kiddos will be lucky if there is any candy left on Sunday morning though (yes I still do an easter basket for my 18 yo too, and I probably always will).

    Lauren I had the bmx and expanders too. Like Lee, I didn't want to always be looking over my shoulder wondering. I kind of always knew that would be my choice when/if faced with the matter. My mom had BC at a young age as well, so it was always in the back of my mind. I've heard people are very happy with using their body fat for the recon, however if doing a bmx it can be much more difficult to recover. That was my PS's advice to me and said he would only go there if I didn't have enough tissue for him to work with. But that hasn't been a problem.

    JulesDenver, haven't heard from you in a while. Are you lurking and not posting? Hope everything is going okay.

  • LeeA
    LeeA Member Posts: 1,660
    edited March 2013

    skimommi, love the new avatar!  

  • ywheels22
    ywheels22 Member Posts: 230
    edited March 2013

    Lauren: I asked my PS if he could take any fat from tummy ( I have a small pooch) and he said no. My PS actually doesnt do many that way anymore and chooses cadevar skin. But if you can get tht tuck go for it but it will be a longer recovery and probably a bit more painful in the beginning.

    Cancernoway: I am sure you are right about dehydration. At times I can't even drink anything that tastes good. I did lemon water last night with some cranberry juice and that was ok. Hoping to get to the end of this soon!

    Best to all!

  • Lauren15
    Lauren15 Member Posts: 119
    edited March 2013

    Thanks for the insight! I'm leaning towards the harder recovery but happier long term results. I may chicken out. I also have a lot of trouble staying hydrated and get dizzy all the time when I stand. I hate water. I've been trying to eat watermelon, jello, ice pops and soup, oh and decaf tea. I still don't get in as much as I should, but I get so nauseous with water. Diet ginger ale is great too!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2013

    Lauren - my BS was all about the lumpectomy until we found out i was triple negative.  Even though she said the recoccurance rates were the same, her parting words were if you have a reoccurrance you are looking at going through chemo again.  I found the bmx to be an easy surgery.  My only issue has been with my missing nodes :(  I want them back!  And congrats on the complete response.  That is fantastic!

    Skimommi - I've been laying a little low the past week.  I had a major meltdown (as some of you had read).  My BS blindsided me with some TN news and then I got to have a chest CT for a lung nodule.   Banner week.  I wonder if there will be a day where i don't fear for my life everytime i have a scan?  It came back negative and i don't remember much after that, but I think there may have been some tears.

    This last chemo round has been ridiculous.  Nada.  Nothing.  No SE's.  I will be scheduling that silly acupuncture again for round #5.  I have also been taking zantac/claritan daily to ward off the hives (just in case any of you are have that fun SE from taxol/taxotere).  I wish i could go for #5 today!

    ywheels - i am so sorry for your thrush issues.  As if a bad mouth isn't enough...it sounds terrible :(  You are so close....hang in there.

    So after last week's meltdown and the fact i have conceded to radation asap after chemo (read, no trip to FL).  I have set my mind to more fun things.  Like new breasties.  I have decided to change plastic surgeons so I can get fills during my last two chemos.  This new surgeon is going to start using gummies.  Has anyone considered those?

    hope everyone is doing well!

  • Skigirl72
    Skigirl72 Member Posts: 478
    edited March 2013

    Lauren15- I had a TRAM Flap reconstruction. It took a solid 8 weeks of recovery. I had just enough to use my own skin. It was a long surgery. I think it was 6 or 7 hours. I was in the hospital for 3 days. I am happy with the results so far. I only had the left removed and right now things are still a bit swollen and sore. I have about 80% of my strength back. I have not been trying though. I've been lazy. My PS keeps telling me it takes a long time for the new breast to look and act like the other one. I have another surgery coming up in the summer to fix some areas. I hear this is common. I have zero sensation in the new one and I am getting used to it. I am just glad the took off the one that was trying to kill me.

    I have never had a totally flat tummy even with an intense workout/diet regime. Now, it's flat as a board. I have a huge scar from hip to hip. I had a GF show me her scar from a tummy tuck she had a few years ago and it is nearly invisible. And she tans alot. So, I am happy about that.

    I sometimes second guess my decision of only taking one breast. I do think I made the right choice for myself and my situation. I guess I finally said, "lets take only what is needed. If it comes back then I have no choice but to go the implant route. At least I got the free tummy tuck."

    <<< DARK TOPIC ALERT>>>

    Someone asked me a tough question last night. "What would you do if you had only 2 months to live? Would you tell anyone?" Why the F### would you ask me that? Don't you know what I am going through? I try so hard to NOT think about the possibility of this shit killing me. GRRR. So, of course I started to think about what I would do. I would not tell everyone. I would not want the looks, the sympathy, everyone would treat me differently. I would tell my DH, my immediate family and my best friend.  I would take my son out of school and do whatever we wanted. Another trip to swim with the dolphins, more hikes, LOTS of pictures. LOTS of laughs. I would also write my story. The whole thing. From the moments I remember as a kid to the present. (the person who asked me this is going to get a Bella bitch slap the next time I see him)

    <<<END DARK TOPIC>>>

    Monday is Taxol#1. I have all my tools ready this time thanks to the advice here and on the weekly taxol thread.  Ready for the next battle...

  • ywheels22
    ywheels22 Member Posts: 230
    edited March 2013

    Ski girl: great on the flat tummy. I insisted to my PS there was enough there to take and he laughed at me. I asked if he could do a tuck anyway while I was out and he said no. He said we can discuss it as a possibility of him doing when he puts in the permanent implants. I know I don't have much but it's not flat! At least I don't have flat boobs anymore!

  • Skigirl72
    Skigirl72 Member Posts: 478
    edited March 2013

    Mine told me that if I had just come in and wanted a tuck he would have discouraged me. He was real close to telling me no. He was checking out my lats too. Nope, covered in ink. He almost went for my inner thigh and my gluts... I said hell no. Its belly or implants. He really took everything he could. It's been a tough recovery, but, I see the end of the tunnel...

  • cancernoway
    cancernoway Member Posts: 90
    edited March 2013

    Yay! Infusion is a go!!!!

  • Skigirl72
    Skigirl72 Member Posts: 478
    edited March 2013

    good news cancernoway!!

  • cancernoway
    cancernoway Member Posts: 90
    edited March 2013

    My wbc was 13.9. All vitals good so onward and upward! My chemonurse gave me a gift today. A thirty-one bag full of sticky notes and ink pens lol. She called it my chemo brain rescue bag! Love you Nancy!

  • kingboo
    kingboo Member Posts: 28
    edited March 2013

    Had my TC#3 last Friday and Neulasta shot Monday.  Since I have been coughing I had a CT scan this past Tuesday. I was sooo tired Tuesday that I slept for 12 hours straight.

    SE is minimal, but my taste bud is gone.  I prefer spicy or really salty food now.  I gain weight. I hope it is the water retention they talked about.

    I will have my last TC#4 April 12.  I have been looking at the radiation board.  They have some interesting postings to read up on.

    Take care ladies and hope you all have a nice day.

    Jean

  • LeeA
    LeeA Member Posts: 1,660
    edited March 2013

    Great news, cancernoway!  And how nice of your infusion nurse!  I wish I could have borrowed some of that WBC count of yours for my infusion yesterday.  Mine was 2.3 but he went ahead with it anyway - but at a reduced dosage. 

  • Rhonda2
    Rhonda2 Member Posts: 133
    edited March 2013

    Cancernoway,



    How are you feeling today? I had tx #4 yesterday and so far it is better than #3. My DH said I'm not as swollen as I was after #3 and not as red in the face from Herceptin. I chewed on Biotene gum during Taxotere and so far my taste buds are much better than and prior treatments. I'm hoping your doing well.



    Rhonda

  • LeeA
    LeeA Member Posts: 1,660
    edited March 2013

    That's a good tip for Taxotere, Rhonda2.  I think I'll try it for the sixth treatment.

  • carlads
    carlads Member Posts: 241
    edited March 2013

    Hi Everyone,

    I haven't posted on this thread in such a long time, but I read the post to catch up on everyone. I decided to go with 6 cycles of T/C instead of 4.. I had a 1mm in my sentinel node but all 22 nodes taken were clear. I go next Thursday for round 5.. 3rd round was tough but 4 th not too bad..so far I still have lashes and brows but I think with the extra treatments I'll lose them..

    Then only other complaint is the weight gain, due to the taxotere! I asked what in could do about it and my NP said "Nothing" she said its the chemo and will come off after I'm done.. Its only 6 lbs but two more treatments it makes me a little nervous...



    Hope everyone has a good Easter!!



    Carla

  • cancernoway
    cancernoway Member Posts: 90
    edited March 2013

    LeeA - Thanks a ton.  I was so happy they didn't postpone me.  My infusion nurse is hysterical and we laugh all the time.  Even if someone else starts me, as soon as she is free she takes over.  We have gotten really close.  It was so funny when she gave me that bag, I cracked up laughing.  She said, my husband was so worried you would be offended and she told him, he would have to meet me in order to understand.  I think it is great.  I have little post its all over the place now.  If I could loan you some WBC, I certainly would. 

    Rhonda - I'm doing pretty good.  I think the cold made my taste buds die faster.  Today, already, food tastes crappy unless it is cold.  Wonderful.  I hope it goes away faster.  I'm glad you are doing well and I will get some Biotene gum for next time.  I use Biotene mouthwash and mouth spray and swear by them so I will see if I can get some gum.

  • Zorina
    Zorina Member Posts: 103
    edited March 2013

    Taxol fatigue is knocking me down, and I get so frustrated by it.  I may have had fatigue during A/C but I don't think I had enough brain power to notice or care. 

    Reminder to self:  Be patient, don't feel guilty that DH is doing most of the housecleaning. And above all:  Don't get in his way while he cleans!

  • martha323
    martha323 Member Posts: 79
    edited March 2013

    Bryona and Lee, Thanks for the good wishes! Great to hear that you're doing well on TH, Bryona ...

    Thursday was a long day - echocardiogram (every three months for the clinical trial), labs, visit with MO, and then finally the bar. I felt anxious, but everything went well, fortunately.  I feel tired, but I was still able to get a lot done today ... hmmm ... probably the steroid still working! I have sensitive fingers and now both big toes - some of it started during AC along with discoloration on my hands.

    Skigirl, Wow - what a shock that you had that question thrown at you. The insensitive remarks that people make are astounding - but that tops the list.

    Food - I envy those of you who can eat spicy food - even if you can't taste it! I have to pass on anything spicy, tomatoey, acidic .. sad face. I missed cooking with tomaotes one day last week so much that I made chicken cacciatore. It was fun to make because it smelled so good but I wasn't tempted to try it. I wonder some times what foods I'll never eat again ... pesto, a former favorite, may be one of them. I ate it when my taste was 'off' .. mistake.

    julesDenver, Very happy to hear that your chest CT was clear! And skimommi, great photo!

    I hope that everyone has a happy weekend - minimal fatigue and few SEs! Peace, Martha

    p.s. How does the FaceBook page work so that it is private?


  • ywheels22
    ywheels22 Member Posts: 230
    edited March 2013

    Zorina: how many Taxol have you had? And how many to do? I have 4 double dose dense. Fatigue seems to be the major complaint for Taxol. Thanks and Hsppy Easter. I hope you get your energy back.

  • LeeA
    LeeA Member Posts: 1,660
    edited March 2013

    Martha, I am ruining foods right and left!  I'm trying to ruin foods that aren't very healthy, i.e. pizza, chocolate chip cookies, corn muffins (the list goes on - and on...and on). 

  • russell33
    russell33 Member Posts: 48
    edited March 2013

    Hi Ladies, I hate to complain but I have to vent to someone besides my poor husband.  My last treatment of Taxatere and Cytoxan was March 19.  My doctor said I did not have to take the Neulasta shot for the last round.  I have felt like SHIT since chemo and was running fevers for a week in the 99's.  Only had left the house once to meet Radiation Oncologist.  I knew something was wrong because I felt so bad.  Thursday when I woke up from a nap my temp was 101.8.  Of course the fellow on call told me to go to the ER.  My WBC was 1 and my neutrophil was 0.  I am know on antibiotics in case of infection somewhere.  I still feel like crap.  My PA said I probably would have benefited from the Neulasta.  Just an FYI. They were going to keep me overnight but I quess there is some new protocol that if your under 60 with no other chronic issues you can go home.  So Yeah, I didn't have to stay.  I have been quorintined (think its spelled wrong) to my house until next week.  No visitors and no Easter with my family.  We will celebrate Easter again when my taste buds are good.

    Someone on here mentioned peanut butter was there best friend, mine too.

    I hope everyone has a Happy Easter and Enjoy your families.  Anne

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