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raehyg
raehyg Member Posts: 85

So my question : Is it the Neusta that causes such side effects worse than the chemo? I thought everything last week was from the chemo...today I woke up in agony like a knife stabbed my lower back couldn't sleep, lie down, stand up, or walk. The onc said it is probably from the neulasta still. Its a week and a day later.

Rachel

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  • christina0001
    christina0001 Member Posts: 1,491
    edited March 2013

    Bone pain seems pretty common from Neulasta. BUT it does keep us from getting really sick. Many here have gotten relief from taking Claritin (don't ask me why! but it does work for many!). I had bone pain the first time I took it, for a few days. But after that, I never had any side effects from it. I hope you have the same luck.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited March 2013

    The way that Neulasta works is that it stimulates the production of white blood cells in the bone marrow.  During this process the marrow expands - that is what causes the pain.  The larger the bone, the more marrow, the more pain.  That is why so many of us feel it in the pelvic girdle, legs, hips and back.  Generally, the first Neulasta causes the most pain because it is the first time the marrow is expanding.  Subsequent ones not as much usually, it is like when you first put on jeans and they are tight, then you wear them for a while and they stretch out.  Claritin helps with Neulasta bone pain because the antihistamine helps control the edema in the marrow caused by the expansion.  I have linked a clinical trial for this below (2nd trial entry).  Take a 24-hour Claritin (not Claritin D) an hour prior to the injection, then continue every 24 hours for several days.  Aleve also is supposed to be good (1st trial entry) - I just took Tylenol and took a very warm bath.  Of course, ask your oncologist if it is OK to take the Claritin and Aleve.

    http://clinicaltrials.gov/show/NCT01712009

    http://clinicaltrials.gov/show/NCT01311336

  • Auralaine
    Auralaine Member Posts: 17
    edited March 2013

    I had my first neulasta shot last Friday and have had horrible back and hip pain since. I have osteoarthritis and spinal stenosis anyway, (had back surgery last summer and I still need a hip replacement) so when they cautioned me that this could be a side effect, I kind of blew it off since I live with back and hip pain on a regular basis. But this has been horrible, to where I can hardly walk or sit. I hadn't heard that Claritan might help - I've been taking ibuprofin and tylenol (not at the same time), but they haven't helped much. I do understand the benefits of neulasta - I had acute myelomonocytic leukemia almost 20 years ago (pre-neulasta) and was routinely hospitalized for horrible infections with my chemo treatments. So I'll suck up the bone pain to avoid that, but I agree it's awful! I'll call my oncologist for some Clariton tomorrow.

  • AnnieLane
    AnnieLane Member Posts: 856
    edited March 2013

    Auralaine, you do know Claritin is available over the counter? Walmart, all the drugstores, and Costco all have their own store brand versions that work just as well and cost much less. Taking it now won't help nearly as much as taking it before and for about a week afterward, but maybe you can avoid such a bad experiece next time.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2013

    I too had horrible pain from Neulasta, and Claritan did help.  You can find generic anywhere that sells cold medicines.  I also developed an allergic reaction to Neulasta (as I did with the chemo) and ended up in the ER after each chemo treatment and subsequent Neulasta shot, and ended up having to stop my chemo after 2 rounds because of the severe allergic reactions.  But, the claritan helped the pain subside, as did my husband gently walking me up and down the driveway, and street, to try and keep me moving a bit.

  • mamabee
    mamabee Member Posts: 546
    edited March 2013

    Auralaine, I had a similar experience to yours - horrible pain after my first Neulasta shot. I learned about the Claritin before my second shot (on this board, not from my oncologist), took it and the pain afterwards was much, much less. Also, as SpecialK wrote above, it gets better with each Neulasta shot, as your bone marrow gets "stretched out". I used the generic Claritin from CVS - just make sure you get the 24-hour kind, with nothing in it but the Claritin. Hope you're feeling better soon!

  • tangles
    tangles Member Posts: 508
    edited March 2013

    I had my 3rd shot last Sat. I had pain with shot #1 and #2 but zero pain with this one! I am taking the clariton also. I hope you find relief as the shots go on.

  • raehyg
    raehyg Member Posts: 85
    edited March 2013

    I am taking the clariton with it also.....glad to hear it will get better. I have RA aand like Auralaine I blew it off because I too live in pain(especially now that I had to stop my meds). I was also out of breathe the whole week but I am not sure why. I didn't call the doctor about that but I assumed it was all related. So next week I hope the Neulasta will be kinder to me.

    Rachel

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited March 2013

    rae - tell your doc about the shortness of breath, that is a SE that needs to be documented.  Don't assume that it is normal - not saying it isn't but it is important enough that you should discuss it.

  • raehyg
    raehyg Member Posts: 85
    edited March 2013

    I will let her know on  Monday when I see her...thanks

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2013

    Shortness of breath was one of the main se's I was having that wasn't normal and what caused me to end up in the ER.  They had me on oxygen, which helped.  Of course, the ER docs weren't familiar with Neulasta or chemo, so my onc was called each time.  After spending a few hours on oxygen, I was released.  also let them know if you have a very rapid or irregular heartbeat.

  • LW122713
    LW122713 Member Posts: 52
    edited March 2013

    I too found out about the Claritin on this board and before my 2nd treatment a few weeks ago, I mentioned it to my MO and she said she hadn't seen anyone benefit from taking it. I tried it anyway and it worked for me. After the first shot I was in excruciating pain and took hydrocodone and ibuprofen along with using a heating pad for relief. After taking Claritin before and after the 2nd shot, I only needed a few ibuprofen on occasion. The Claritin made a huge difference for me. I will be sure to tell my MO that next week when I go back. Anything is worth a shot to avoid the pain that comes with the Neulasta.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited March 2013

    Shortness of breath can be caused by low hemoglobin.  Definitely discuss with your onc and check your blood counts.  I needed a transfusion and that cured the problem.

  • raehyg
    raehyg Member Posts: 85
    edited March 2013

    I guess I should have called with the shortness of breathe...I didn't want to call them I waited until I had the stabbing pain in the back.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited June 2013

    Has anybody seen a connection between Neulasta & neuropathy?  Maybe it's just the time frame during the 3 week cycles but I'm sure suspicious.

    I've taken Claritin for all 3 treatments so far.  It worked for tx#2, but not for tx#1 or tx#3

  • Latte
    Latte Member Posts: 1,072
    edited June 2013

    Does anyone know how late after chemo you can get the neulasta shot? I know you are supposed to get it at least 24 hours after, but that works out for me right before my daughter's birthday party. Do you know if it's ok to do it around 40 hours after chemo?

  • Jen987
    Jen987 Member Posts: 145
    edited June 2013

    I'm sure that would be fine. I waited a week one time. Your Nadir time (when WBC counts are at their lowest) is actually 10 days after chemo, from what my nurses tell me.

  • 6cats
    6cats Member Posts: 327
    edited June 2013

    Latte -- I was told 24-48 hours. I had to postpone chemo because I was unavailable the day/s I could get the Neulasta shot. So check with your doc.

  • Latte
    Latte Member Posts: 1,072
    edited June 2013

    Thanks. I also heard up to 48 hours, but the official neulasta patient info doesn't say anything so I wasn't sure. I will check with my onc.

  • Meekone
    Meekone Member Posts: 107
    edited June 2013

    My reaction from the Neulasta was so bad that I had to call 911 and was admitted into the hospital for two days.  They believed that my reaction to it was so adverse that it caused nerve damage.  Onc refused to give it to me again after that first time.  One thing about going through all of this stuff, be sure to tell your doctors of the smallest of reactions and side effects, they can lead to a much larger problem if left unattended.  Everyones body reacts differently to these medications so it is imporatant to share with your doctors any issues you are having.  Most of the times they can help pinpoint the problem or give something else.

    Meek

  • Latte
    Latte Member Posts: 1,072
    edited June 2013

    My onc refused to let me take it any later than 26 hours after chemo, but then reminded me that I can inject myself. So the nurse will show me how to do it, and then I can inject myself so I can still go to my daughter's 5th birthday party! Yay!

  • kmurphy
    kmurphy Member Posts: 55
    edited June 2013

    Latte---glad you can attend your daughter's party!

    I went for first chemo yesterday and therefore, first Neulasta shot will be today.  I asked my Onc if she could write a prescription for generic version so my insurance would cover it.  She hadn't heard about that but said it can't hurt and to let her know if it helps.  I got 30 for only $4 by doing it that way.  I think that comes out cheaper than buying OTC.  Just a thought that may help others save a few bucks, too.

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