January 2013 chemo group
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Hockeymom12- Hi, I am down the street in Rochester. I wanted to go back to work too. I felt ok and I just couldn't sit home anymore. I just work part time now. So, far that is plenty. I have a 10yr old boy and he has been great through all this. I seem to have enough energy to hang out with him at night and he can occupy himself for a bit too. I am glad Taxol is easier. I start next week.
Bryona- You are not a freak (i think). I've needed to increase my intake of Prilosec during all this. And I usually have the GERD under control with diet weight and the meds.
Skimommi- I've gone into work on my days off with a hat and no makeup and I've startled a few. lol. My lashes and brows are almost gone
so, I will need to find my inner Picaso to get my eyes to show up on my face. Maybe I will just look tired all the time and I wont have to remind anyone.
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Bryona ~ So glad to see you are still posting while juggling work! You are amazing! Re: Acid Reflux~ I've had to increase my prilosec in the evenings since starting Taxol. My pharmacist reminded me that the collateral damage is cumulative, so if your GI tract took a bad hit during AC it has not yet healed and Taxol will worsen what is already raw. I hope you can stay on top of the acid reflux ~ it is no fun! My plan is to keep taking prilosec through the rest of taxol, for 4 weeks afterwards (while my stomach might actually start healing) and then see if I can wean off.
Thanks for your kind words. I am having a harder time with Taxol #3 than I did with 1 & 2 (that darn cumulative toxicity thing) and while I have definitely developed some skills in the "let it be" category, I am not a happy little duck. Doesn't help that my girls are on spring break and I can barely keep up. However, the leg cramps are already better than they were yesterday so I'm going to trust that my energy level will follow suit shortly.
Have a good Monday everyone!
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Nicole, Bryona and everyone: thank you for your kind and encouraging words. They put a smile on my face and made me feel like I'm not that much of a freak. Bryona, like you I've been there before too! Hearing you all say Taxol is easier is such a relief. With only 4 to do I hope my life will start to come back to a bit of normal.
Jubby: thank you on the running. I felt so silly admitting it bugged me. Like I don't have more important things to worry about! But yes I will beat that time by next yer, if not sooner.
I also have a chest cold cough, low grade fever. On day 4 of being in bed My NP called in a z-PAC. I go in tomorrow for my follow- up blood work. It will be interesting to see where my counts are at. On last Wed of treatment they were still thru the roof. I still have a mild case of thrush even with taking the medicines. Doesn't seem to want to go away. Hoping the worse of the bad days are behind me. Again thank you ALL! It is wonderful to have this place to go to and to have all of you! -
Thank you for saying this, Nicole: I feel this great urge to lean forward into being "almost done" and in so doing, to minimize that each cycle still has SE's that are still unpleasant and exhausting. I don't do myself any favors in trying to deny my discomfort and push through.
Skimommi: Snowshoeing and cycling class is more than I would have undertaken on any given day a year ago! I find the taxol is making my legs a big wobbly, and walking is somewhat challenging for several days, but I still walk. Someone offered to bring lunch to me from the cafeteria today, but I said I would walk over with them. It was taxing, I was wobbling, but I am proud of the fact that I got my own lunch today. People really want to help, but I had to explain that getting up and moving is part of ‘The Cure.’
Hockeymom – Glad to hear that Taxol is treating you reasonably well.
Day 5 after Dose Dense Taxol#2: Symptoms are no worse or better than the first time around. My MO actually said the intensity won’t fluctuate a lot during the course of treatment. Day 3-4 have been the most difficult for me.
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Pet Peeve:
Everyone sees the headscarf and says nothing. One male co-worker looked at me and said: Chemo? Yes, I said with relief, and he asked questions on my status. This isn’t a guy who is generally sensitive, but at least someone acknowledged the damned scarf on my head. Most people seem to avert their eyes or just look around you. I am not looking for sympathy nor do I have any desire to elaborate on my condition unnecessarily, but finally someone didn’t ignore the elephant in the room!
Nicest thing ever said by another co-worker: “I personally think you could rock the bald look. Stop worrying about what other people may think"
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Doctor called in cough syrup with codeine and Robitussin. Makes me snoozy, but seems to be working. My head is still congested, but not as bad. Doctor said they would check my levels on Thursday and make the decision at that time. Still hoping for a go!!! Took a 4 hour nap earlier, ahhhh codeine.
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Just wanted to pop in and say hello. I am half way between TC #3 and TC #4 (which is my last one). Looking forward to being done and moving on to radiation in May. Got an extra day of spring break today because of 12 inches of snow here in St. Louis. Heading back to my kiddies tomorrow. Thinking all of you, as I read everyone's posts even though I don't post much myself.
I keep looking for some positive to come out of this like maybe I will be more assertive because I don't care so much what others think or maybe I will try something new or adventurous. The only thing I can say so far is I do feel like I am pretty damn tough to get through this and take some pride in that. Anyone have any great revelations or goals for themselves as you look to coming out on the other side of this sucky adventure? Just curious. Sending good wishes to all of you.
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The only thing I have decided to do when I get on the other side of this journey is take my son to a ski resort and stay at a ski in ski out hotel with an outdoor pool. He would love it. We only skied once this year due to all this fun I've been having with surgery and chemo... before surgery we were in Atlantis (Bahamas) and did a deep water swim with the dolphins, stingrays, sharks and had a few hours with a very funny sea lion.
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I've been catching up today and feeling so fortunate, as always, to have found all of you. I think about the Bellas every day.
skigirl, Soteria, Bryona, I'm on weekly Taxol as well - I start day after tomorrow. I'll also get weekly Herceptin for those twelve weeks and then every three weeks for a year. I'm in clinical trial B-47 for those who are Her2 low. Nicole, many thanks for posting the link to the weekly Taxol group - I need to get the info on how much B6 and B12 to take, so I'll be looking at that discussion closely over the next two days. I sure hope that you're feeling more energy today!
cancernoway and ywheels, Yuck, a cold on top of SEs - but it sounds like you've got everything under control - get well wishes flying your way!
Zorina, I've had a feeling of swallowing over something on and off throughout AC. Prilosec has helped a lot, but I still have the sensation.
ywheels, I had more pronounced side effects with AC#4 as well as AC#3. The Neulasta aches were also more pronounced - very flu-like. I felt more tired, lack of appetite lasted longer, and I felt slightly winded from time to time. I dragged myself out for a couple of walks in the middle of all that and felt really crappy afterward so I shelved the exercise for almost a week. Turns out that both my RBC and WBC were the lowest they've been so far. Bouncing back has taken longer, but I'm feeling much better each day now - you'll get there.
Bryona, I hope that your colleagues begin to see you with a less black and white perspective. I hope that they start to ask more questions and refrain from stupid conclusions!!!
Shannon, I never roll my eyes when I read your posts ... Your pep and your imaginative metaphors are useful when I find myself sliding toward the mud at the bottom of the barrel ..
I guess I'm about ready to get introduced to a new family of SEs with Taxol and Herceptin - I'm encouraged by many of the posts, though. I'm hoping that my tongue, which feels like I've been sucking on a jalapeno, calms down by Thursday. Other than that and the expected fatigue I'm feeling ready .... well, anxious too! I've had IV Ativan with AC ... that tells you something, I guess. MO says that the Benadryl will probably make me sleepy and I probably won't need it this round.
Best wishes for speedy recoveries fron colds and SEs .... Hugs and prayers to all, Martha
p.s. We haven't heard from a few Bellas in a while - like MandyNJ - hope all is well!
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I was going to work 1/2 day today and I got up this morning and took the medicine they told me to take that wouldn't make me sleepy. Well I went back to bed and I woke up at 11:30! So much for that!!! I'm thinking it just actually worked and allowed me to sleep, not actually made me sleepy. So I'm gonna go to work tomorrow and then my treatment is Thursday so this has been a wasted week and because of a stupid cold. Grrrrrrrr. I did wake up to my husband bringing me a chocolate milkshake from McDonalds. Yummy since I haven't ate much of anything in 6 days since my throat felt like it had been attacked by a blow torch. Thank goodness for protein shakes and iced tea or I would have been in a world of, well you know. My poor eyes are running like crazy though. They just won't stop watering. Making me nuts! This too shall pass, I'm just glad that I'm feeling somewhat better and among the living again.
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Hi all - I haven't checked in for a long while and want to catch up with you. My chemo regimen has been a bit unconventional. The good thing is that I went for a mammo and ultrasound today. They couldn't see the tumor any longer on the mammo. The ultrasound showed it was .58 in size (almost not even there); however, the doctor said we have to go for a pathological complete response. I have one more TAC Thursday (which will make #3 TAC) then probably go back to a higher dose Abraxane x4 every week -- or just keep me on TAC for 3 more to total 6. I'm so confused. I hate TAC. It knocks me on my butt.
Has anyone done Abraxane? A lot of you I started out with are probably near the end of your treatments. How great is that? I was so hoping to be done soon only to find out I need so many more treatments. I want to go to surgery already. I'm still deciding between lumpectomy or double mastectomy. The MO said the stats are the same for recurrences with triple negative. For those of you doing rads, are there any SEs? Can't wait to catch up!!! Lauren
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Martha: thank you. It certainly has been very tough. I hear you on the mouth thing. The thrush just won't go away, even with the medicines. My tongue and mouth feel like they are stuffed with cotton and nothing tastes good at all. I hope by my first Taxol tx in a week, this is all behind me.
Cancernoway: I hear you also on the mouth taste crap crud shit!!!! We are on different tx's but it seems this SE is pretty common. I lost 4 lbs. in a week because I just don't eat anything because nothing tastes good. Not even protein shakes or ice cream or jello-o. Ugh!!!!
I hope everyone is doing well!
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cancernoway,
Bren58 is on our same regimen and has had the watering eyes as well. She posts in the Decmeber chemo group.
I hope you start feeling better soon!
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Lauren, great news on the response to the chemo!
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Wishing everyone a great week!
I'm up for round five tomorrow. I had another acupuncture appointment today so I'm hoping that will help boost my WBC; however, due to my lymphatic massage therapist's reaction to me allowing him to place needles in my left arm - I had him refrain from doing so this time.
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First Taxotere of 3 today and one of the onc nurses told me that Neulasta was developed here in my State of Victoria. You have an Australian to thank for all of those aches and pains but please don't hold it against me
. Wanted to highlght that we're not so isolated or backward afterall (I had an American ask me if when i was a kid I road to school on the back of a kangaroo).
So far so good on the Taxortere but not counting any chickens (or kangaroos) yet!
xox
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LeeA and Jubby - best wishes today as you head for the bar! And thank you, Austrailia for Neulasta - aches and all.
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Good luck today LeeA. I hope that your side effects are easier this time. I will be thinking good thoughts for you.
Jubby ~ good luck with the first Taxotere. I hope the side effect roller coaster is no worse than your previous rides.
Ywheels22 ~ I had to keep going with the nystatin into my first treatment with Taxol and I ended up treating myself for a few days after this third round because it felt like it was coming back a bit. All better now. I will wish the same for you.
Lauren15~ CONGRATULATIONS!!!! <<They couldn't see the tumor any longer on the mammo. The ultrasound showed it was .58 in size (almost not even there)>> Thanks for sharing! For those of us who had our tumors removed before chemo, your story makes me feel confident that this chemo is an effective killer of any remaining breast cancer cellular insurgents.
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Lauren15, I am on abraxane, am having my 4th infusion right now. It's not to bad. I just had a little diarrhea. The worst side effect is the nasty taste in my mouth. Food taste awful. I have lost 8 lbs since I have been on it. I can stand to lose weight so that doesn't bother me too much. Also I have no energy. Good Luck to you and I hope you have minimal side effects.
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Lauren, so great to hear from you again, and with such good news! I agree with Nicole that hearing your success makes those of us who had chemo after surgery believe its doing something! When I was frist diagnosed, I had a small (7mm) tumor but in the end still opted for the bmx mainly because I am a worrier when it comes to things like this and just didn't want to be looking over my shoulder all the time...for me it was a good choice because my final pathology showed ILC and was in the nodes...I would have been running back for more surgery if I had just done the lumpectomy. That being said, I did take a more drastic approach...my PS had a good talk with me about recurrance rates and that the 'good' breast still had the same low chance of BC as I had walked around with all my life...that really made me think about it...sounds like your MO has good advice on the recurrance rates, so to me it's your personal choice as to what feels right for you. I wish you continued good news, and look forward to seeing more of your posts!
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Lee and Jubby - Good luck today and I hope you have an easy time!!!
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they give me my treatment tomorrow. I've been sick as a dog since last Friday and I always see the MO before my treatment so I won't know until tomorrow whether or not it's a go. I will be be beyond p*ssed if they push it back. I actually am feeling a little better today. Last night sucked outloud. I coughed until 3:30 this morning and was miserable. I had taken all the cough syrup that was prescribed to me and it wasn't working. They told me to take a Claritin and my eyes got all goopy and when I did fall asleep and woke up this morning they were glued shut together. How nice and gross!!! I had already made my mind up that I was going to work today because there were things I needed to get done before my treatment since I'll be out until Wednesday of next week. So I went in and did some stuff and my sister who works at the same hospital that I do comes on my floor and takes one look at me and says, "Pack your sh*t, your going home". Well I couldn't put my contacts in this morning because my eyes were such a mess and a bit swollen still and red and still watering like crazy so no makeup so I did look like I had just come back from the dead. I kept telling her I looked worse than I felt since I had already had steroids this morning as well. She turned my computer off and grabbed my bag and walked me out. I was grateful and pissed at the same time. She's had it next time she's sick.
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Nicole: I just messaged Tangles on the other board about what probiotic she was using for her thrush. I am on my third bottle of Mystatin and second bottle (12 pills) of the fludocolsone (sp?). It is not going away. What else did you do? Thanks!
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Haven't been on here in a while,
Skimommi, worry not what you say here. Isn't that what we are all here for? I totally understand the thought of the future and one's time line in life. I want to see my baby grow up and even if I have ten more years, my baby is only ten.. Too young to loose his mommy! Some days I think about it, other days .. Right now I have been pretty cheery.
I think about going out and being "the cancer patient" I don't always want to be that.. People spotting me out for that. A couple months ago, before my hair was gone a woman came up to me and told me of her battle with cancer, I wondered what brought this up, how did she know! She saw my port. I wasn't thinking about it at the time though.
I know this babbling may not answer questions or bring peace, but live day by day. There are so many things I want to be around for in the future, I just pray that God sees it the same way.
I don't know if you or any others have done this, but I recently signed up for a BC survivors retreat. Get away from all this, share with others in our boat, relocate my peace, figure out how to deal with this as part of every day life. I don't go until June, but I am so looking forward to it.
On the treatment note and current events; I did not get my chemo today due to low platelets and low absolute neuts. So as I have been planning my life around the chemo dates it now appears that I will be post chemo treatment with ? SEs for my sons confirmation weekend. I will have to see how it all pans out, but my chemo dates now conflict with dates I want to feel really good! That sucks.
But, I now have this week to feel good. Will be good for Eastwr weekend, I will be gratefull for that for now.
LeeA; how does the acupuncture work, does it help? I was planning to try ginger and use sea ands for this round.. Will try it next week now. BTW, my hemo was 7 last week, up to 7.1 today!
Hang in there!
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Cancernoway: I have been sick since last Friday as well. It started 3 days after my last AC tx. I have a z-pac and tomorrow will be day four of it, but I am, at this point, not feeling any better. Bad head cold, cough, congestion. It really sucks. My NP wrote a note so I wouldn't have to work today or tomorrow and I am glad for that because I couldn't have done it. There were times today when I would get up, I got dizzy. It's not been a good week at all. I hope we both feel better soon!
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Macyhen111: every one is different, but I found that when I had the nasty taste foods with stronger flavor tasted acceptable. Grape juice was the drink of choice, oj was nasty. Tacos were okay and soup.. Chicken noodle mostly. Hope you can find something that works.
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Dea, so good to hear from you again, and thanks for the positive thoghts you shared! I wanted to let you know that I also get accupuncture -- I got it the morning of each treatment to settle me down and prepare me, then 2 days after to start detox, then once a week between to manage SEs and rebuild...I see a great Chinese doctor in Arlington Heights (she also practices in Willowbrook I think), so not sure if either of those are close to you. She is very insightful and works a lot with cancer patients. I have had minimal SEs and really feel she's been an integral part of that. If you'd like any more info, just send me a PM.
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Hi ladies!
Nicole503, Martha323, cancernoway - thanks for the well wishes for today's treatment. I thought I wasn't going to get it because of my WBC count. It was 5.4 last week at week two and had dropped to 2.3 by today! At first he said "we may delay it for a week" and I was all "oh NO, let's not delay it!!" He ended up thinking things over for a moment and decided to reduce the dosage on the Taxotere and Carboplatin (Herceptin dose stayed the same) so, Dea43, regarding acupuncture, here I was thinking that it was the acupuncture that buoyed up my WBC last week but it looks like my DO (dear oncologist - hehe) was right when he said that it was the Neulasta peaking. BTW, great to see you again Dea43! Also, your survivors' trip sounds like an excellent retreat from all this. Back to acupuncture (oh noes, it must be the steroids going into overdrive
) - anyway, I do think it has helped but perhaps my increased WBC theory just wasn't what I thought it was - although the integrative physician says studies show it can help boost WBC counts.
hope49, I love hearing names like Arlington Heights and Willowbrook (I grew up with those words and we used to go to the best steak place in Arlington Heights when I was a kid - there's that food connection again!).
Jubby, my antipodal infusion day twin (I think?) - I hope yours went well (17 or so hours prior to mine).
cancernoway, I have to chuckle at the image of your sister turning off your computer and gathering up your purse! She loves you! I don't have any siblings so I'm always so fascinated by the dynamics between brothers/sisters/sisters/sisters, etc. I hope you start feeling better soon! My husband is still battling what sounds like the same thing.
ywheels22, I hope you start to turn around as well with your cold/congestion thing!
macyhen, you know those eight pounds you lost? Well, I gained 'em over here in California! Oh well. Once this chemo-hell-apy is over I will try to lose them again (I had lost about 25 pounds in the year prior to being diagnosed).
Wishing you all the best wherever you're at on this road/journey/experience/whatever!
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I envy those of you with weight loss. I think I've gained about 10 lbs. since chemo. Nothing healthy tastes good. I want chocolate, ice cream, and spicy fattening foods. I figure once I'm done with chemo, I'll lose, however, not for diet purposes but for survival. It seems eating healthy and execising is a major component to keeping it from recurring. I have my TAC tomorrow, and I'm already tasting metal and getting naseous. I get another ultrasound in three weeks before my next chemo treatment. I'll let everysone know if the .58 went to "0". Yes, this chemo stuff really works!!!! Remember that during the treatments and the SEs. I still need help with learning about surgeries that most of you have already had. After going through this and knowing I'll do surgery, the light at the end of the tunnel is to have customized perkier boobs. I'm leaning towards the double mastectomy vs. lumpectomy. The PS said he can use the excess fat in my stomach (which there is plenty) for reconstruction. Any insight, recommendations, or advice on what I'm in for???
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Lauren, it's great to "hear" from you, and great news about your response to chemo! I hope you get that PCR with round 3 of TAC and then can switch to Abraxane. I only know one person who's been on Abraxane, but it's the same family as Taxol and Taxotere, which means even its SEs should be easier than that stupid AC combo!
Martha, good luck with TH tomorrow. I hope it's a piece of cake for you like it was for me.
Jubby, I notice you didn't ANSWER the question about riding to school on your kangaroo. It's okay. You don't have to be embarrassed. We know you did... and his name was Skippy!
On a separate note, I can't remember if I said this at the time, but HOORAY for being fecking done with fecking FEC! (Wow, that was a LOT of swearing...)
cancernoway, when I had that nasty cold, they still went ahead with my treatment. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you can stay on schedule, too ... not that I want you to have to deal with being sick and the dark chemo days at the same time, of course, but ... well, you understand. Also, I think I love your sister very, very much!
ywheels, I'm still hoping your stupid cold goes away. As if chemo doesn't feel rotten enough -- it's amazing how much crappier the cold makes everything. As I always say, getting sick on top of chemo is just rude. Stupid cold. Stupid thrush. Stupid chemo. Grrr...
Okay, I know it's only been 6 days, but so far I'm a big, big fan of Taxol and Herceptin. I was really sleepy for about 4 hours Sunday (tx was Friday), and I've been having trouble with insomnia, but other than that I'm feeling remarkably functional. A girl could get used to getting up in the morning and being able to stay that way! Just sayin'...
Hugs to you all!
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Lauren15, it's so encouraging to hear what chemo does to tumors. I recall reading one account of a woman who had a very large ILC tumor and the doctor said that on MRI (I think?) it started looking like it had big holes in it - like Swiss cheese - as it was being dissolved.
I have tissue expanders with an eventual implant exchange down the road so I'm not much help on that other type of reconstruction. I had a double mastectomy because I knew I would always have it on my mind and I also figured I might as well get it over with (or something). Hard to describe but I just felt like it was the right decision for me - although everything at the beginning seems like such a blur as I look back. When I walk into my breast surgeon's facility I'm taken aback by the the smell - it's not a bad smell - it's a new smell (very new facility) but the smell is kind of like a PTSD thing for me. I'm immediately thrown back to the first part of October, when I had the biopsy and was diagnosed. I once read a blog entry by a breast cancer survivor who said that bendy straws threw her back to her "dark days."
Also, not sure if you're a Facebook person - I wasn't but I am now - for the sole reason of being in the Facebook group that's formed from this thread. Perhaps you're already there and I'm just all chemo-brainy but thought I'd mention it to you and anyone else who is interested!
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Martha, I missed the fact that you're up at bat tomorrow - good luck!
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I found this this board took so much of my time and went off for awhile in order to catch up with work. I'll try to juggle both; however, this message board is an enjoyhable positive distraction for me, as is my phone with all the games on it. If I added FB to it, I'd never get work done : - )
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