January 2013 chemo group
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Nicole you look gorgeous in your profile pic. I embraced the bald but mine is finally growing in and I'm ready!!! take care
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Meg: "Raquel Welch wigs are insanely natural looking but they still get itchy and annoying"
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I concur! My long wig is a RW and I hardly ever wear it but my Nancy Grace looking wig is an Estetica brand and it feels almost as comfortable as a ski cap/beanie.
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I found that if I had the little minion hairs on my head my wig itched like crazy. After I shaved my head it was much different. I did wear a wig cap under it once and that was just ok.
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Skimommi, I've been thinking about your post on and off today. I had a long drive to a doctor's appointment (not BC related for once) and as such, had lots of time to think about all kinds of things.
I don't know how I would have felt had I found out I had BC at 40. I had a scare at 32, when my son was two years old and I remember clearly how frozen with fear I was, waiting to go in for the mammogram after my gynecologist felt something in my left breast (it was always my troubled breast). I had another scare about age 43 and was frightened then as well. Finally, at 53 the fears became reality.
At the risk of sounding cliché, life is so random. We really never know what might happen from one moment to the next.
I keep thinking about a post I read here at BCO during the first month or so after joining. I would provide a link but I'm not sure of the exact screen name of the person who posted it.
The gist of the story was this: this poster, a breast cancer survivor, has a sister who has brain cancer. Her sister was very ill and her treatments required travel to a distant city. A wealthy man in their community became aware of the financial strain this was putting on the woman and without solicitation and out of the goodness of his heart, offered financial assistance.
Flash forward to a year later - this BCO poster's sister slowly began to improve and is now doing much better.
In the same year's time the very generous man who wanted to help her sister was killed in a car accident during very inclement weather.
It's been a while since I read the post but I think the BCO poster relayed the story as an example of how random everything ultimately is in life.
I can't think of a decent way to wrap up this post other than to say that I'm sorry you're feeling the way that you are. I think chemo can mess with our heads/emotions. Our bodies get so smacked down and our sleep cycles can be interrupted and it's just a bit of a cluster-you-know-what all the way around. I like to think our best days are ahead of us and in the meantime, we just keep plowing forward.
((hugs))
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Skigirl, now that you're headed toward Taxol-land are you going to let your minions grow back? I'm thinking hair can start to grow back on Taxol but I'm not sure. One of the (other) thoughts I had while driving around today was a thought about Paula's hair (not on the hood of her Volvo). I was wondering if it had started growing back on Taxol (she said it was kind of starting to grow on AC).
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Had not heard of Estetica line, will check it out! Thank you and best of luck!
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Thank you ladies for allowing me to pour my heart to you, and for all the positive feedback. I'm not quite back to my strong, positive well-being yet, but I will be. I've been extremely positive through it all, and perhaps that's why this gloom is looming a little longer because I haven't allowed enough of it to sneak in for little tiny spurts. Instead it is going to hit hard and long. But it won't last.
Shannon had me laughing at "a moth fart in Guam". Seriously! And I agree and follow the same thought process, of not allowing myself to fall in the rabbit while with all the "did I turn left when I should have turned right" shit. I know better. This round, this week, this time is just kicking my ass.
Meg, thank you for posting and checking in on us. Good luck with rads, and please do keep us updated on how that is going for you. I'm sure many of the ladies here are anxious to know what to expect in that phase. I'll follow you in about 2 months.
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This is interesting and might possibly help some people feel better. I'm up late playing Dr. Google games prior to a radiation consult tomorrow and just saw this:
In contrast, one of the most exciting things now is the more common luminal A or ER-enriched breast cancer. If these patients are treated with breast conservation, hormonal therapy, and radiation, their local-regional outcome is almost perfect. We are getting to the point where we are seeing local-regional long-term recurrence of less than 5%.
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Good Morning ladies ,
Yes , I have had my thoughts of darkness and despair as well and what got me to think different is talking to GOD often . The best free counseling I ever had came from those moments and my fears subsided. Especially when people learn that I have cancer and start to compare me to someone who has died from it or tell me that I am not gonna make it . I tell them up front you do not know me or the GOD I serve who is loving and full of mercy .
By surrounding myself with positive people and the encouragement from GOD I know that I am more than a conquer of HIM that loves me . At no time should anyone of us feel ashamed of how we feel because honestly , no one knows how we feel or what we are going through . There are some days that I want to scream and then there are days that I do not .
For whatever reason we are on this journey , the things that I will always remember is the Love of my Creator , the few people that have stuck by me (my children and my mom ) and the lessons that this has taught me which are too many to name .
I feel that all of you are strong willed , courageous , and full of love and life and I will keep saying it this too shall pass .
Fighter
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LeeA: you really expressed it so well. I always liked Forrest Gump's famous quote, "Life is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get."
I always feel cliche in saying, just think positive, because sometimes it is not possible. It can be a mental battle and I do think the chemo messes with our mental and emotional health as well. I just try to keep reminding myself this is short term.
I agree on the RW wigs. I have one and while it looks nice, it is itchy, even with a cap. I paid about $400 for it so I am not buying another wig. I only wear it to work and since I am only working 5 hours every 5 days, I can manage it.
I have AC#4 today! I will be 100% done with AC! I am praying for minimal SE's. I am worried about the thrush as I still don't think it is totally gone yet, but I will keep taking the medicines for it through the tx.
Good luck ladies!!!!
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ywheels22 ~ Congrats on your last AC! Wishing you a smooth infusion and smooth sailing with your SEs. I think staying on the thrush medicines is a good idea ~ I needed them through both #3 and #4 too.
Heading in for a blood draw this morning to get the green light for Taxol #3 tomorrow. Hope my liver enzymes look better.
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ywheels22- Kick #4 to the curb! Good for you! Do a happy dance when you leave. We have a bell at the entrance to the infusion room that we ring when we are all done! If you have one of those, RING IT SO EVERYONE CAN HEAR!!!
Nicole503- Positive thought for good blood work. Stay on schedule!
Say my PS today for a check. Everything is progressing nicely. He wants me to wait for rads till the end of the summer. I think that might be the right time frame. He wants to do the revisions to my bloob when the BS takes the rest of the nodes on the left. I don't want rads during the summer. I want to be selfish and wait. I would start rads at the end of august. That would be about 9 weeks after chemo and 6 weeks after surgery. Any thoughts on this? I am meeting with a RO that my PS likes to use in the next few weeks.
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Just got the ok for AC #4 tomorrow- looks like ywheels and Manda and I are all same schedule AC-T sisters. Tomorrow i am 100% done AC, 50% done chemo and only 56 days to go!!! Woop-woop!
I got negative nurse again today...its just become fun to f*** with her. Aside from gaining a wee bit 'o weight (Shannon's ever-expanding arse MUST get in motion), i'm doing great. No issues and even my wee head hairs are emerging...AC #4 will blight them but hey, the little buggers are trying. Negative nurse was astounded i still have my eyebrows & lashes and that i have no probs...she was better this time (didn't tell me it would all get worse) but hurried to assure me that my plan to have 1/4 inch hair by my b-day "might not happen because you can't predict hair growth". I know that Nurse Rachet...stop peeing on my parade. I'm gonna keep hoping and come in on my b-day with my GI Jane doo and pointy party hat and blow my party favour up your nose!!! Bwaa, ha, ha!!!
So tomorrow is a go, i am STOKED to be 1/2 way to done and it feels great to see an end in sight...now if only the STUPID weather in Southern Ontario would cooperate and understand it is the first day of SPRING. Puggies need walkies and Shannons need exercsie...no way i am buying fat pants..not gonna happen. So here's to warmer weather on the horizon and my pants fitting a wee bit more loosely in the coming weeks...heave ho, fat...get moving! xoxoxxo Shan
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LeeA~~I actually saw bits of hair growing after Taxol #1. That was about 4 weeks post final AC. I doubt that anyone else would notice it. It's so sparse, but definitely starting to come back here & there. When I can see it all over my head, I will buzz it again to get rid of the leftover dead chemo hair. I never lost all of my initial buzz, but its thinner on the back right, because I sleep on that side.
I really don't want to be wearing hats & scarves when it gets really warm out. I hate my wig. So, I'm excited that I'm seeing a bit of growth.
Blessings
Paula -
ywheels and Shannon, Congratulations on AC#4 and best wishes for minimal SEs! And sending good wishes to everyone who spends some time at the bar this week.
It's encouraging to hear from those who are on to Taxol that you feel the fog lifting and more taste returning. As usual, lots of good support here - especially about the emotional challenges we face - thank you!
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ywheels and Shannon - Congratulations on being at the AC finish line! Wishing you minimal to no side effects!
Paula, thanks so much for the hair update! The hairs (for some reason I like referring to them plurally
) appear to be growing (?). The ones above my ears are about 3.5 inches long (yes, I measured them).
Skigirl, your plan of action sounds good - especially the no rads in the peak of summer part.
Nicole, I hope your enzymes are where they should be and Taxol is a go!
Fighter69, Thanks for your post - very inspiring words!
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Meg, thanks for joining our discussion! It is so helpful to be able to hear from those a bit ahead of us and know we, too, will make it to that next place.
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Klaudiak, I’m so sorry about your mother but so glad that she and you were able to see each other before she left. She is with you always, on your heart and thoughts, and you carry tiny bits of her in every cell in your body. She is ALWAYS there. My deepest condolences to you and your family.
LisaMM, my eyelids started twitching and got worse for awhile. To the point that I couldn’t really read for an extended period. Other muscles seriously twitch. It drives me apeshit.
Ablydec, I am sorry about your aunts. It is incredibly difficult to face your own mortality when you’re going through treatment for BC when others around you are succumbing to illnesses and diseases. I’m friends with a woman on facebook that my cousin suggested I friend right after I found out about the BC. This woman is facing either her third or fourth bout of ovarian cancer. From what I can tell, she is terminally ill. I freaked that my cousin suggested I friend her. Like, that’s EXACTLY what I need right now – facing cancer while reading about someone who’s dying from it. I got over that. Now, my feelings of fear for myself have somewhat been replaced with feelings of compassion for her. You’ll find your way through these losses. Please don’t feel guilty for having feelings and thoughts that pretty much anyone in your situation would have.
LeeA, what do you mean by ear twitching? My right ear constantly rings and there will be periods where I hear several little ticking or pinging sounds that can last from a few seconds to a few minutes. The hairs? The ones around MY ears are longer than the rest. What’s up with that?
Zorina, that topic kind of came up before when someone was asking about chemo before or after mastectomy. These BCs are all so incredibly different. I don’t think there are two of us alike on this board. It would seem that MOs should have known a bit earlier that that particular protocol wasn’t shrinking the nodes. It sucks she has to get a different protocol AFTER having already completed so much. But, there are other drugs out there that can help your BC friend. So, I guess what I’m saying is she is probably the much more rare case than we are (hopefully for us and unfortunately for her) and the best we can do is trust that the medical establishment knows what works for the majority of us and that those things will work. Congrats on getting back to work and good for you that you have so many caring and supportive people on your side at work!
Kathy, I love GRACE! I’m going to try to remember it and apply it. Thanks.
Jubby, thanks for asking. I’ve been feeling really down and sorry for myself. This lung disease has become an even greater burden for me than before. I’ve been reading about how everyone is exercising and I can barely walk. The more I sit, the more deconditioned I get. I am so fatigued from treatments 3 and 4 that I couldn’t even begin to try to exercise. I see a few of my friends who were never interested in running are now taking up running, in races to top it off. That’s all I ever dreamed of achieving for myself one day again. I was a NCAA division I nationals finalist in high jump in college and was nationally ranked in high jump and hurdles. And here I sit feeling like there’s no hope that I would even be able to walk 30 minutes through my neighborhood or go on a vacation because I can’t figure out how to do this as a disabled person or how to accept being disabled. Plus my fingers hurt so much it’s hard to type.
Maltomlin, thanks for the words of wisdom. I’m so happy to hear you’re disease free. I needed that bit of encouragement. Thanks.
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Ywheels & Shannon- CONGRATULATIONS! Kick that #4 behind you! So happy for you both! And as usual Shannon, you made me laugh-such good medicine!
Oliverhig- do you have a Curves site near you? I understand that the exercises there are all passive. They might help you with toning if nothing else without exerting you so much. Just a thought! -
Sounds like tomorrow is going to be a busy day at the chemo lounge! Good luck to all and it is so exciting to see a few more of us A/C gals will have their last dance with the Red Devil. You'll never have to dance with him again!
Dose Dense Taxol #2 for me tomorrow. Then I will have completed 75% of my chemo! My friend has to be at the hospital tomorrow, so she is going to stop by and see me at the lounge.
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Hello my luvies....
boy I have REALLY gotta catch up on your posts. I've had a real ringer of 2 weeks and was OFF chemo. Going for last one tomorrow - hopefully (I have a head/chest cold, so I will be hiding that as I get checked in o_o)
Hope everyone is doing alright, I'll BRB and get caught up....LeeA ?! I see you're a Blonde bombshell -
My pleasure hope49... It meant a lot to me to have women to talk to who could give tips- my husband and I are both somewhat active, I was treating a herniated disc when I found the lump and so that took back seat until chemo was over so I really took it easy as to not relapse while they wouldn't touch my back. I did drink lots of water to the point my husband thought I was messing myself up but those rules don't apply to us chemo chicks and I am sure that helped me get through it pretty good. Private msg me if anyone has specific questions- happy to help.
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Thank you.. And let yourself have your moments, days, etc... They will make you stronger and ready for attack!!
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For those that may remember my post about DH getting a rash. Good news that it sounds like it wasn't caused by the chemical outpouring from my body following chemo.
He was talking to someone else he works with today, and that man has a similar rash going on. He works in a transfer station, where they bring in trash and recyclables, and loads the tractor trailers that haul it all to the dump. Well, sounds like they were probably exposed to something at work. Hence, the doctor thought he may have had a chemical exposure and all along I was thinking I was the exposure. LOL Still think I will be taking extra precautions the few days following chemo though. Thinking I'll get a t-shirt with the biohazard warning on it . . . or something like this:
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fantastic idea for a shirt!
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Ok we'll here's a little update! I saw my PS today..and that area I was worried about that had bad blood flow has gotten much better! The area actually came back and just has a dry very thin brownish scab that's flaking off..he said it looks great and he doesn't and wouldn't do anything to hold up my cancer treatment...his words were "everything is healing great...you need to take care of your health...nothing I do for you is more important than your cancer treatment...start your chemo, and if anything comes up I will work around your treatment...come back in 2 weeks and if you are feeling up to it we can start your fills, if you aren't feeling well we can delay your fills..we are working on your time here and I will wait as long as you need"...so my plastic surgeon is AMAZING! I feel a million times better knowing I'm healing good and my chemo will not be delayed...oh oh and the best news...........MY FINAL 2 DRAINS ARE OUT!!!!!!! I am soooo excited and I can't wait to wake up tomorrow and take a shower finally!!!!!! Some other news about tomorrow, I have very long thick crazy hair...but I chose to get it cut tomorrow to about my chin....I have always wanted to try out the short hair, but i use my long hair as a weight to weigh down my poof....but now is the best time to try it...if I hate it ill only have it for a few weeks before I start shedding and I shave it!! So I'm terrified and excited All at the same time! Thanks for reading my rambling!
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Keke, it sounds like you've chosen an excellent plastic surgeon and wonderful news about the place you were worried about starting to heal and flake away.
You have a great attitude! Good luck with everything moving forward!
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Hello Ladies,
Loving the posts - it is good to hear the good, the bad, and the ugly. Makes me feel normal
Going in for Round 4 tomorrow; trying to drink as much water as possible, drink my Purelax cocktail, and adjust to five days without coffee.
Saw my ONC yesterday for our visit - blood work looks good; I told him how emotional I've been after Round 3 - he said "...we are wrecking havoc on your hormones and the steroids do a number on your moods too..." I have to say, it made me feel a lot better. Then today, saw my bc surgeon; everything looks good and she thinks I am doing GREAT! (I always say to her, you aren't just saying that to keep me upbeat and she replies, I can't do that, it's against the law) My poor, disfigured breast it trying to round itself out (good luck with that) but it looks better compared to what it looked like in late-November. I've been debating about re-construction but think now (at least today) I would seriously consider it. The difference between the two is significant - my leftie (bc side) is about 1/3 smaller than my right! And because I had/have naturally large breasts was the only reason we could avoid a mastectomy.
Round 4!!! For me, this is the milestone, I can't believe I am staring down the short end of the tunnel after tomorrow; then radiation, then the EST blocker! I wouldn't say it flew-by but it's like mid-terms, you get through one and relax until the next. Then the next is over and so on.
It is good to see the docs and check-in; I don't shy away with my questions or concerns about anything, nothing is uncomfortable anymore!
I am glad to read how many of you don't really like your wig! I hate mine - I wear it to work and always bring along back-up head coverings. You come to my desk around 11:00 and the wig has been cast off and is laying on top of my purse or my tote as if some person is hiding inside the bag wearing it. I forget how it might startle people but...
Trying to wind down from the day - it isn't easy - sleep is my elusive companion - going to pack my stuff for tomorrow and go read until I am face down in my book.
I am feeling the GRACE today, I know it could be fleeting but that is only temporary!
Love and hugs to all~ sweet dreams and good days ahead!
Kathy
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Kathy, good luck tomorrow and thanks for passing along what your oncologist said about chemotherapy wreaking havoc on our moods/emotions.
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Nanc620
I just sent you a friend request on F/B so I can join the F/B secret page for the user's of this thread.
I would have sent you a message but it wanted a $1.00 (maybe because we aren't friends yet!)
Anyway, please send me the secret handshake to join the F/B page - thanks so much - Kathy
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