Starting Chemo April 2009
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Amy, you are one impressive lady! So happy you had a good day, and your determination will get you through, and of course we are all behind you always
!Helen, let us know how your appt with the GP goes - thinking about you.
Florbo, hope you enjoy your time in Houston and that you are feeling better each day.
Hope everyone is doing well. I am doing ok, still quite low, but otherwise ok.
Hugs to you all, Judy x
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I do hope one day we can all actually get together and give real hugs.....although I do love the virtual ones you all give. Saw my GP today and she is amazed at how much better I am. Said it was very unusual. She wants me to call the surgeon tomorrow and tell him what is happening. She is hoping he will Oder a new MRI immediately and that should tell us what to do she does 't believe I should have unnecessary surgery. She spent a lot of time with me and was great. Will keep you posted.
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Helen, so good to hear that you are feeling better. Let us know what the surgeon says.
Geri, hope you are ok, has been a while since you have been by.
Hope everyone is doing well and wishing you all a great weekend. (thinking of you all even if I don't mention you all individually
...)Hugs to you all, Judy x
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Helen - ABSOLUTELY agree re NO unnecessary surgery! I hope the MRI gives a crystal clear indication of whether the surgery is unnecessary or not.
Went to see my parents in NY yesterday/today. Lovely visit. I am treasuring the time with them more & more as they age. Even my dad, who has historically been somewhat 'difficult' is getting easier. We think it is because his hearing is going and he can't quite catch everything that is going on. But either way, I am enjoying them!
Glad to be home though.
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Hi all,
Sorry it's been so long. Congrats on making it to the four mark (some soon to be) from our 2009 experience. As I celebrated this week, I thought of Lena. I'm thankful that even though life isn't perfect, I'm alive and I'm happy you my sister's are too! You helped me through some very tough times and I am thankful for all of you.
I celebrated my year 4 anniversary having the worst mammogram ever this past week. The tech was new and needs a lot more practice. Heavy sigh... Anywoo...my anniversary was on the 13th, it's easy to remember because I had surgery on Friday the 13th. I've feeling good these days. My arm LE has pretty much resolved itself. TG
Still working on my leg LE from my hysto. -Amy I'm sorry you have had such a tough time. I love not worrying about bleeding but no ovaries has caused terrible vaginal dryness. My onc has ok'd a topical estrogen since my labia tissue was breaking down. Other than that SE and the leg edema, I love not worrying about cancer lurking around the corner. I don't mean to worry you about edema. In my case they took a lot of lymph nodes as I was positive for endometrial cancer before surgery. So your surgery, if that's what you decide will go much better as it will be more routine. I'm still on the every 3 mo. check up for gyno and I go to the same cancer clinic as my chemo. I am on the six month schedule for breast cancer. 2014, is the year everything changes, I'm looking forward to next year. It is hard seeing the full waiting room. It's especially hard to see the young women.
I am still trying to work out at the gym and walking. I also watch what I eat. I would be gigantic if I didn't do these things, it's downright SCARY and depressing!!
Hugs to all and a toast to 4 years!
Betsy
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Helen--that is good news from your GP!
Betsy--glad to hear from you and get an update. I hope your LE get better.
Judy--I hope you take some time this weekend to recharge and relax.
Amy--Was your dad like "Grumpy Old Men"? LOL with your comment.
I had my first visit with the radiation oncologist. He was very nice and thorough. The nurse gave me a tour of the CT room, treatment rooms, where the physicists do their calculations, etc. The radiation side didn't smell as bad as the infusion side, so that made me feel better. I will get my CT and simulation on Tuesday.
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Amy, glad you enjoyed your time with your parents.
Betsy, so good to hear from you! I hope your LE continues to improve.
Florbo, thinking of you (((hugs)))
4 years, can hardly believe it!
Hugs to all, enjoy your Sunday, Judy x
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Hi Everyone!! I found my way back here after being away so long....and am reminded that our 4th year anniversary is here/around the corner. It feels so good to be cancer-free for 4 yrs. Big pat on the back to all of us! I miss you all and hope everyone is ok - including those who no longer log onto our discussion thread. I still have my chemo brain but it is probably because I want to?! Full time work and mom to a very active 6 year old is quite challenging but I count my blessings everyday to have made it this far.
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Tulip! So happy to see your comment. I think of you often, as your initial post comes up each time i enter this thread. So glad you are doing well, chemo brain aside.
Thank you for telling us how you are! And thank you for starting this thread way back when. It has been a true Godsend for this little group that stays active on it.
Amy
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Yes, Tulip, thank you, this thread has been a life line for me and I feel blessed to have found these amazing women to share with.
Hope everyone is doing ok and having a good week, hugs as always, Judy x
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Hi everyone,
I have been away for much longer than I intended, and really miss you all when I lose touch. I am still struggling with the dental work, although I believe there has been progress this past week. I finally got the oral surgeon to look "way, way up on my gum" and lo and behold, he gasped and said, oh you poor thing, you have a huge sore there! Well, what did you think, that I have a secret crush on you, and just come to the office because I want to be near you? Geesh! So, they are now treating way has been causing me pain for weeks now. I have decided to do 3 implants, because I can't adjust to taking teeth out at night. Have to wait until July to start that...lots of time together my angst going..lol
A good thing - I had a great trip to Florida to visit my long time friends at their winter home. Really was a lot of fun..we have been friends for 44 years, and have many good memories to share. While I was there, Chelev face poked me - to bad she was on the other coast..I would love to meet up with my sisters in person some day.
Now, for what I have read, Judy...you will have the reconstruction when the time is right for you...don't stress over your decision, because that is what it is...your decision.
Florbo - I admire how you forge ahead with treatment, and seem to have a very positive attitude...keep it going.
Helen - it sounds like you have finally got some good luck...fingers crossed that you can avoid surgery.
Amy - sounds like you also are facing surgery with that wonderful spirit you have
Betsy - so great to hear from you and like everyone else, hoping your leg edema resolves. It is hard to believe we are 4 years out, and other times it seems like it was a very long time ago. I miss our Lena too. I often wonder how rat pack is doing.
Tulip- as everyone else has said, thank you for starting this discussion board, and I'm glad you stopped back in - stay with us..we have all been so strong for each other, and many times we see our conversations now are about grandchildren, retirement, moving (Judy is our resident international traveler) and the "normal" things in life...as it should be.
Has Titan been around? Where are you Titan? How are you Chelev?
Leslie?
Have a good night everyone
Geri -
Tulip! Hello, there and I also have to thank you for starting this thread 4 years ago when we were going into uncharted waters.
Geri--Your Florida trip sounded great. I'm sorry that it is taking so long for your dental issues to resolve. My mom's dentures are giving her problems. When she was here helping me out for my last treatment in January, her dentures gave her a sore, which caused one of the nearby tooth to be infected. That tooth is pulled and she'll get an implant in the future.
Hubby and I celebrated our 15th anniversary on 3/14--Pi Day by hanging out at a downtown park and then going to have an exquisite and expensive meal. So worth it, though! I don't think I have eaten that well since chemo started back in September. My taste buds are finally coming back.
My breast surgeon called me on my cell phone late afternoon yesterday. I'm always in the bathroom when she calls. She leaves a message but I can't call her back because it was already 5:30 and her office is closed. So I called her back this morning and she tells me that my pathology from 3 weeks ago showed that the tumor is Her2 amplified. She called my onco and onco called me and now I'm getting Herceptin starting next Tuesday. I was just thrown for a loop. Totally not expectng this because my biopsy from August 2012 was Her2 negative. I was thinking she was going to tell me she didn't get enough margins, etc. I am thankful that there is treatment for Her2 positive, I just wasn't expecting to be getting infusions for another year. Also. my port has been taken out. I'm going to to see if I can just get by with my veins.
The 30 minutes later I showed up for my CT and simulation for radiation. The nurses in Rads already knew the change in my situation and were so good to make sure they saved the good veins for my infusion next week. I go home and a few hours later the rad onc calls me to tell me that the CT found a clot in my chest from the port. At least it is small enough they feel baby aspirin will take care of it. Thank goodness it is not in my lungs or heart yet. I feel worn out with all the health drama today.
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Geri, thanks so much for coming by! Have missed you here. I can't believe that you are still having dental issues and really hope that it is under control now.
Your trip to Florida sounds fab, there is nothing quite like spending time with old friends. Really hope that you feel ok. Please don't stay away for so long next time......
And of course, thank you for your support as always...I do think that I made the right decision about my surgery, but it is always good to have the support and encouragement of those around me.Florbo, firstly, congratulations on your anniversary! Wishing you many more happy years together. Sounds like you had a lovely day!
I can imagine yesterday being exhausting for you, I hope you are doing ok today.
Helen, how are you doing? Do you have any updates from your doctor?
Sending you all hugs, take good care, Judy x
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Florbo - that is A LOT of medical info in one day to absorb. I always find that ONE piece of health news takes me a few days - I can't imagine all this. Be gentle with yourself as you make the adjustment. I had a year of Herceptin back in 09 as part of my original treatment. I am happy to say that it is NOTHING like chemo -no severe SE's, no hair loss. In retrospect, I realized that it had made me a little stiff getting up from sitting, and your pee smells funny the day after (sorry if TMI). But after chemo it was a CAKEWALK. (I always wonder what that expression means - is there cake involved, or just walking, lol.)
Anyway I bet you will be able to get by with your veins and no port IF they do every 3 weeks. If every week, then maybe not. But either way, Herceptin is an awesome drug and has dramatically changed the outcomes for Her2+ women. So I am glad you can get it.
Let me also invite you to the TCH thread (taxotere, carboplatin, herceptin) which I am also an active member of. It is a huge thread, because it is ongoing, so many 'old' members and lots of newer ones are always there. I dont know of anyone who is getting JUST Herceptin, without the chemo, but there are always people asking questions and some of the women are extremely knowledgeable. So please stop by.Lots of things going on with all of us, it seems. I have my pre-surg consult for the hysterectomy next week, and my mammo as well. I will have to discuss the delicate topics of whether to leave or remove the cervix and the ramifications of these choices. Ugh. I hate talking about that personal sexual stuff with a doctor. They always seem uncomfortable (as am I) but I have only been married 6+ years (still newlyweds, right? haha) and this is a very important issue for me. The surgeon once made a joke when I asked (after the D&C) if I could resume sexual activity, and she said yes, but if you want, i can write a note saying you can't for a while longer yet. It was funny, but there's this underlying message that women my age (55) are done with that stuff and trying to get out of it. And that makes me even more uncomfortable to have to bring all that stuff up as very important to me. I WILL do so, because it IS important. But I sure don't like it.
Can't believe I wrote all that. i guess it really is bothering me.
Well hang in there everyone. We will all get through our various ailments and challenges - together, as always.
Love to all -
Amy
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So much to read and nice to see "old" friends popping in. Hope you'll come back more often. So many still going through health issues. Never seems to end. Without mentioning everyone's name please know I'm thinking of you and cheering that surgeries and treatments go as easily as possible. But you can always come here to kvetch.
Spoke to rheumatologist, GP and surgeon. Everyone said the same thing. No surgery if no pain. Surgeon ordered MRI and I had it at 11 pm last night. That way he will know if cyst is still there or just "quiet" for now. Also had to postpone recon and have to call when I am ready. My son's wedding is on May 19 so assuming my back stays ok, I will try to get recon done following wedding.
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Helen - did I read that right? You had your MRI at 11PM (at night)???
Never heard of that. Very interesting to me. Do they stay open all night long and run MRIs or were you the last one? So late!I hope the results show that you do not need surgery AND that you stay free from pain> that would be the absolute best outcome for you.
Keep us posted.
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Hi Amy. Yes, the hospitals run the MRI machines 24 hours a day. Not unusual at all. I was definitely not last because as I was leaving, there was a whole group of new people in the waiting room. Don't know how many machines this hospital has but definitely at least 2 going at the same time. While we have much to be thankful for with our universal health care, it is not perfect and it can take a long time to get an mri. This doctor put the order in on Friday afternoon and I had the MRI on Tuesday --- so not much of a wait. I hope the same as you - that the surgery will not be needed but definitely for now it's been postponed.
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Thanks for the encouraging words, ladies. I was exhausted last night going to bed and woke up better but still felt beat up. I don't think I got out of my jammies until my kids were almost home from school this afternoon. I will go check out the Herceptin thread. I'm still trying to process everything. But I do feel better today.
Amy--I am so not shy about asking all the information I want to know. And I will also ask the questions that people are dying to know. Just the other day, a new chemo patient was asking me questions. Then I asked her if she was constipated. She was and was so glad I asked her because she had been so miserable. But, the other people she had talked to were all prim and proper and she didn't feel comfortable asking. Nothing is TMI with me! Good for you to ask to be so pro-active with your health.
Helen--thanks for the update.
Hugs to everyone!
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Amy, it is so important to be able to ask all the questions that we need to - I hope the appointments next week go well.
Helen, let us know when you get the MRI results, if the doctors say no pain, no surgery, that sounds like a good path to take. Also, very exciting that you have another wedding coming up. You know we too have social medicine here and you can have all sorts of scans etc at all hours of the night...
Florbo, your post made me laugh! I hope you are feeling better today, take care of yourself.
Yes, we all seem to be going through one thing or another right now, I am so happy that we can come here to share, both the good and not so good times, and to help eachother out.
I am generally ok, I have an Onc check up in May. Work is crazy busy, I got home very late last night and still don't seem to have made a dent in my work...at least when I think about where I was 4 years ago, I realize that I have come a long way, even if I still sometimes have difficulty with the basic daily stuff...
Hugs to you all, Judy x
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Hi, ladies! I am trying to get on here at least a bit more regularly - seems like the 4 year mark is both good and brings a bit of melancholy, where the 1,2 and 3 year anniversaries were more celebratory because, yay, we were holding our own. I think that is a bit of PTSD with this disease and the ways it has not only affected us physically, but mentally and spiritually.
Florbo, I was surprised to read about your status change from - to +, that is weird. Did your oncologist offer any insight about that? I did not realize that one's HER status or ER/PR status could change, but I guess it can and it is something to keep in the back of the mind. Best of luck with your new round of treatments, I hope you aren't suffering too many side effects and hugs to you. I agree, nothing is too TMI and I have fielded some weird questions from newbies coming on board too. Actually, I still suffer with chronic constipation - think its from the tamoxifen. Oh well.
I am doing well, just dealing with some headache issues that had me concerned, but it's my stupid neck needing adjustment (it goes "out" every few years) and a few trips to the chiro will remedy that. Have an onc appt. in May as well as the fun but necessary mammogram. Busy as crap at work, traveling a lot at this time of year, I've been to Las Vegas, Miami, LA and San Diego since January and will be headed to NYC in 3 weeks. Then it should slow down, travel wise for me, but not work wise - which is good. Busy is good for me.
First day of spring sprung and I know a few of you had anything but spring weather yesterday. We are having our last "cold" front (oooh, weather in the 40s tonight) and then for south Florida, it is going to just start heating up and bringing on the humidity. Fun! Geri, wish you were closer during your visit - it would be really nice to meet you all - we've been through the wringer and back and some are still wringing. Here to help as best I can, if you need me.
I am sending each of you a virtual ((((hug)))) and wish you all well this week.
Michele
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Chelev, good to hear from you, busy is good! The travel sounds like fun, but I imagine it is exhausting when it is for work
...Wishing you all a good weekend, hugs as always, Judy x
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Michele, good to hear from you.
Florbo - great that you can be so forthright and are also willing to help others.
So, here's the latest. MRI shows cyst is still there and I've started having symptoms again so surgery is back on. Am scheduled for April 3. Sigh -
Judy--We all have come a long way from 4 years ago. As much as we try to be back to "normal", we have a "new normal" after cancer. Give yourself a pat on the back. I do, even if it is unloading the dishwasher.
Michele--My RO says that is is very common for the cancer to change especially in a recurrence. He also said if you plot a graph of recurrences you'd also find that most tumors start off more hormone dependent, then become less and less later on.
One of my friends asked Dr. Mark Pegram, who was one of the leading docs in the Herceptin trials with Her2, about the Her 2 receptors. He said each tumor is like a snowflake, there are no two that are alike which is why it's so hard to get rid of cancer. Also, it you take cross sections of the tumor, some parts will be Her2 positive and some are not. So when we are positive, that means enough of the tumor has over-expression of the Her2 antigen. What probably happened with my August biopsy is that maybe there wasn't enough of a sample that had Her2 amplification. He said maybe the current testing for Her2 was used on my tumor 4 years ago , it may have said I was positive since last time I was considered "unequivocal"--barely negative but not positive. My MO called and spoke with Dr. Pegram and Dr. Pegram looked over my info and said I was negative.
What I also find interesting is that 17 years ago when I was visiting my brother at his lab at UCLA, Dr. Pegram and his Herceptin trials were next door to my brother's lab. I had known breast cancer studies were going on there, but didn't know it was Herceptin until a few years ago.
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Helen--I'm glad that the MRI revealed an answer to your pain. I know it's not good news, but I think it's good to know what is the cause of your symptoms. Keep us posted as you get ready.
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Helen - sorry to hear that the surgery is back on. I know you were hoping that the reduction in pain/symptoms, meant that the cyst had resolved, but it's better they found that the problem is still there rather then cancel everything and have it flair up later when you weren't expecting it. Prayers going your way for the April 3rd date...please let us know how you are as soon as you are able.
Florbo - quite a coincidence that you had that experience with Dr. Pegram. We Her2 positive ladies have much to be thankful for with Herceptin in our arsenal now.
Hi Michelle...yes, I wish I was closer when I was in Florida...in fact, I wish I was still in Florida...very cold here in NY, with snow expected tomorrow....grrrr
Amy...of course sex is important to you and your husband...stupid doctors, sometimes they put saving your life as the ONLY thing that matters, and it's not...having that life be fulfilling and enjoyable is also important to us, so ask away, and don't apologize for wanting to be a sexual person.
Judy, hoping you are having a restful weekend
Hugs to all
Geri -
Helen, so sorry that the surgery is back on, but I agree, better that they know the cause of the pain now and can deal with it, rather than it flaring up later. How long is the recovery? Please keep us posted when you feel like it, sending you (((hugs))).
Florbo, thanks for your support, and yes, what a coincidence with the doctor!
Geri, good to hear from you - how are you feeling? Hope you are doing ok.
I did rest on Saturday, but on Sunday, I was busy preparing for the Passover Holiday which begins tonight. It is a lot of work, but we are going to be with friends tonight and tomorrow and I am looking forward to that.
Hope everyone else is ok, hugs to you all, Judy x
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Hi Ladies!
I hope we're all finding ways to reflect upon and even celebrate our 4-year anniversaries.
The day after my 4-year, I had a 6-month checkup with my surgeon. A suspicious lump was detected upon physical exam. I've had a mammo (on my reconstructed breast, who knew?) and a sono, and the lump was classified as "Bi-Rads 4" which means Indeterminant Suspicious Abnormality. In other words, the radiologist was not sure what she was seeing, scar tissue from my multiple surgeries, or a new cancerous mass, so out of an abundance of caution, I need to get a biopsy. *sigh*
The biopsy is scheduled for April 4th, the day after my 43rd birthday. My only goal between now and then is to remain sane, and a little bit cheerful and grateful if I can muster it. LOL!!!
Everyone I've talked to says Scar Tissue Scares are very common and just part of the survivorship package.
Keep me in your good thoughts and prayers. I'll let you know as soon as I know something.
I suppose this never gets any easier, hunh, we just get better at coping with it.
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Alaina I saw this on your FB page and you are in my heart as you go through this. My mammo is tomorrow. Hope it is all normal. I have some recent soreness in the area - tenderness. The surgeon told me years ago that it will never go away, but i definitely notice it more recently. We'll see what she says.
Stay around and let us know how you are doing> this group is a wonderful place of love & support.
Amy
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Hi, Alaina. I too had "a very suspiscious mass" that came back as Birads4 following a mammo and exam by my breast surgeon about 2 years ago. It was frightening, because it too was in the bc breast that I'd already had lumpectomy and rads to and my bs was slightly alarmed, which of course made me flip out. Did a biopsy (my husband was in the room for that one) and it turned out to be scar tissue, but oh geez, it was nerve wracking. I am wishing you B9/Scar Tissue vibes. And no, it never really gets easier. Just when you think you've turned a corner, something comes out from the shadows to scare the crap back out of you and make you wonder and worry. And, at 4 years out from the lumpectomy, I am still dealing with pain in that breast, very tender and sore nipple and discharge. Guess I always will - the surgeon doesn't seem worried by it - says with all that was done to it, it will be years before it is fully healed. Ohhhhkay.
Hugs to you.
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Thanks Amy and Michele!
My best friend made a good point to me last night. She said that 4 years ago, they had me scanned and biopsied within 24 hours. Now they are content to wait 2 weeks. Seemingly, they aren't AS concerned as they were before when it really WAS something. I'll buy that logic for now! :-)
I've got work, grad school, 2 churches to serve, and a birthday to plan in the meantime, so hopefully that will keep my mind from wandering too far afield with worry.
Happy Tuesday to everyone!
Alaina
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