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  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited March 2013

    Tell us more, groovygirls!

    (I saw him at the Crim 10-miler in Flint a few years back . . . what a nice guy!)

    Linda

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited March 2013

    Cool!  Is the giraffe running?

    My running report is that I fell yesterday.  Nothing unusual for me: my username should really be "clumsyrunner" or something like that.  After successfully maneuvering through downtown Brooklyn in the after-work rush, I finally had the sidewalk pretty much to myself: just me and one iPhone-preoccupied pedestrian.  Wouldn't you know, as I passed between her and one of those parking-pay-station thinggies, either I misjudged or she swerved slightly and we bumped.  Not hard, but enough to send me sprawling.

    Good news is, I landed on my right, less injury-prone side.  I came away with just a few minor scrapes and a tender spot on my hip that I'm sure will soon be turning a rainbow of colors. 

    This morning's run was uneventful, thank goodness. 

    Linda

  • ReneeinOH
    ReneeinOH Member Posts: 511
    edited March 2013

    Hi ladies.  I'm not a serious runner.  Actually someone who was a brisk walker (as part of a exercise regimen) that got to the point of needing more physical exertion.  Needless to say, this one-time running hater got hooked.  I've been off any exercise routine for a while now (stress, surgery), and would like to get back into running.  Had a mx Feb. 25 w/TE.  Feeling really good now, but they haven't started filling the TE yet so that could change (waiting for the incisions to heal; will start in two weeks), and chemo is still on the table (will be figuring out if that's the next step at my surgeon/oncologist appt. in three weeks).  So, if anyone can share some insights on how to get back into things, and if it's OK (realistic?) to get back into my normal exercise routine (I'd run 3-5x/week) while going through TE (that's probably a yes), and chemo, I'd really appreciate it.

  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited March 2013

    Can you guys send some no rain vibes for tomorrow?  Hoping to get out for my first run in about 6 weeks, but the weather is looking iffy.   If it's just some light rain, I'll still go but not if it's a wintry mix - I'm not hardcore enough for that, LOL.    I've really been looking forward to getting back out there now that the radiation fatigue has relented and the post-rad swelling has gone down enough to keep it from being too painful!

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited March 2013

    Welcome ReneeinOH to the happiest thread on BCO. Several TE people here (not me) probably can recap the recovery timelines, but my first vote is back to your old friend, walking, as much as you can stand, while you're waiting to be able to handle the jiggle. Second vote is for a superduper sportsbra (we've had a lot of discussions about that - my fave is Shock Absorber). Third vote, enjoy as much vicarious running here on the forum as you need to get your fix!

    I will be thinking warm and dry thoughts for you, Annette47. Our forecast here is for 32F and flurries in the morning. I think my weekend running will be under a roof. I guess just as well I didn't register for Sunday's St. Pat's run with the unseasonable cold so close to the first day of Spring. 

  • groovygirls
    groovygirls Member Posts: 223
    edited March 2013

    Hoping for no rain! Good luck!

  • ReneeinOH
    ReneeinOH Member Posts: 511
    edited March 2013

    Your post made me smile goldlining! PS did say to wait a month and start at 1/2 my normal pace (which, given I've been off for so long, is probably all I could do at this point).  Glad we're headed into spring--looking forward to enjoying the nicer weather, but we have to take the bad with the good.  Hope it's not too late to send nice weather vibes for you Annette!

  • SharonLC
    SharonLC Member Posts: 53
    edited March 2013

    Welcome Renee!

    Lovestorun - great news on your results, you'll do fine with rads ... try to get back to running as soon as you can!

    Groovygirls - That's awesome ... mentored by Bill Rodgers for Boston! Great motivation for you, now, has the weather has improved, too?

    Linda - Bummer, falling hurts! I've been to NYC and understand about obstacles while running in a city (I didn't run there but walking was challenging enough). I fell a few months ago (light rain, pinestraw and curb) ... didn't feel all of the pain until a few days after ... I hope you heal quickly.

    Annette - I hope it's light rain and you get in your run ... glad to hear you feel well enough to give it a try now!

    I did the elliptical for an hour yesterday and ordered a aquajogging belt to try that out, too ... thanks for the input! Tear is feeling slightly better so I am hoping for a quick healing and not 8 weeks.

    Sharon

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited March 2013

    Welcome to Renee and norainnorainnorainnorain for Annette!  Glad you're feeling at least a little better, Sharon. 

    My hip is still a bit tender, but really, my fall was nothing.  I finally connected with my local track club for one of their group long runs this morning . . . 12 miles, 9:30ish pace, made much easier by the company. 

    I'll be out cheering for the NYC Half Marathon runners tomorrow rain or shine.  Really excited about seeing Meb Keflezighi (even if only for a second as he zooms by); I've heard him speak, and he comes across as a terrific guy, classy, very humble, with a really inspiring story.  Plus Bernard Lagat making his half marathon debut!  And Kim Smith on the women's side!   And more Olympians than you can shake a stick at! 

    That's always struck me as one of the cool things about running, how easy it is to see the best in the world compete, and how approachable many of them are. 

    (Edited to add: just checked online and discovered that Meb is out of the race with a calf issue.  He's trying to stay healthy for the Boston Marathon so that he can run with Roan, groovygirls, and firstcall.)

    Linda

  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited March 2013

    Thanks guys!  The "no rain" vibes worked .... sort of.  No rain, but it was SNOWING, lol.    Not sticking at all and not coming down that hard so I went anyway.   My usual run prior to stopping was 4 miles, so I ran the first two and walked the last two.   Might have been able to do more, but figured why push it.   Pretty slow though, but it felt good to be out there!

  • groovygirls
    groovygirls Member Posts: 223
    edited March 2013

    It's been COLD and my dearly beloved treadmill gave its last gasp and died (!) 29 nine days until my big day! It had a good life and I will miss it dearly. Every extra penny is going into the amount I need to raise for the marathon so maybe in a few months a new treadmill but then the weather will be nice and I won't need it.

    Since I am running for the zoo I am going to be dressed as a snow leopard! Running skirts has a skirt and sleeves in snow leopard pattern and I can be creative with the rest.

    I am beyond excited for this- the Boston marathon has been high on my bucket list- nothing like a cancer diagnosis to do the things I have always wanted to do.

  • Adey
    Adey Member Posts: 3,610
    edited March 2013

    Here we go again.........   C25K, W1W1  (c:

  • NatsFan
    NatsFan Member Posts: 3,745
    edited March 2013

    OK, there is something to this Galloway thing about walk breaks.  Ran a St Pat's 5K Saturday morning.  Just before the water stop at the half way point, there was a long hill and I was tired when I got to the top. So I decided to take a break and walk through the water stop - about 30 seconds.  I got going again and couldn't believe how good I felt!  Then at the 2.5 mile point, there was a short but very steep hill.  I decided to give myself another quick break and walk up that hill.  Again, I felt wonderful after only about a 30 second walk break.  I ended up setting a new PR for a 5K race!  OK, I'm still slow, but I shaved about 15 seconds off my previous best per mile pace and finished with a sub-12 pace for the first time ever in a race.  Cool

    It's still incredibly counter-intuitive to me that taking walk breaks can help my speed, but I can't argue with the results.  Thanks for everyone's support and ideas - you all are a fabulous source of information and inspiration for this running newbie.

    Groovy - love the idea of running as a snow leopard!  Adey - you go girl - love your stubborness!

  • firstcall
    firstcall Member Posts: 499
    edited March 2013

    groovygirls....so tell us more, how did you happen on Bill Rogers?  Did you go down and run up heartbreak or something?  

    Saturday I did my long run, in preparation for Boston.  I ran for 3 hours, and covered about 17 miles.  Felt pretty good, and this coming Sat I plan to run 3 1/2 hours.   See how far that takes me. 

  • 301724
    301724 Member Posts: 478
    edited March 2013

    So I guess this tells me how important running is relative to other stuff....just put off a revision of my DIEP by four months to get through my racing season......

  • lovestorun
    lovestorun Member Posts: 167
    edited March 2013

    Way to go NatsFan, Annette and Adey!  And all you Boston runners - super excited for you! 

    Got 2 slow but steady miles in on the treadmill today.  First run in several weeks.  Feels great! 

  • Adey
    Adey Member Posts: 3,610
    edited March 2013

    Slow and steady wins the race!  That's a thing, right?  Congrats.  (c:

    Wish I could say I love to run.......

  • sandpiper1
    sandpiper1 Member Posts: 952
    edited March 2013

    Adey, I am with you on wishing I could say I love or even like to run. Happened upon this thread after having downloaded 2 new C25K apps on my phone. I am going to give it a shot.

    I am a lifetime walking fantatic. I manage to walk 3-4 miles a day about 4 times minumum a week. I gained 12 #'s while on Tamoxifen as well and was plagued by chronic fatigue. I am starting to feel much better since off the meds and wanted to set a goal for my fitness and weight loss routine. I do enjoy my brisk walking routine, but wanted to see if I could somehow take on running as my new favorite activity. ;)

    Even if I do not take to the whole new running persona...I know I will have at least tried something outside of my comfort zone. Willing to take any advice as I take on this newest challenge.

    Here's a little challenge I saw on the internet somewhere...

    60 second wall sit,

    50 jumping jacks,

    40 lunges,

    30 squats

    20 situps

    10 push ups

    repeat 3 times

    I can do 2 times in a row.

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited March 2013

    Hey 301724, that is the reason I am postponing my DIEP revision too! It's been 15 months and counting!!

    In fact, I put off the initial lumpectomy to get the Disneyland Half in (it was DCIS, no medical objections) and put off the DIEP to do the next Disneyland Half. It ended up being quite a bit later than when I hoped it would be, and the Tinker Bell Half ended up being only 6 weeks after it, but there's no way I'd cancel.

    But I am booked to run the Disneyland Half in Sept and WDW again in November. I could do the DIEP revision in summer, perhaps but that's peak training outdoor season... So maybe Jan/Feb... Sure, I'm lopsided, but nobody will notice when I am moving that fast!

    Great to read everyone's updates! I did 5K on the dreadmill, started out strong running for over half of it, but got bored and couldn't keep the form so mixed run and walk. It's way too cold outside here for wimps like me yet.

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited March 2013

    We got snow here yesterday - snow!  Bleachh!  Now the snow is mostly gone, but a cold rain is falling.  I'm so done with winter. 

    With the switch to daylight savings time, I'm having a hard time getting out in the morning during the week, so I've pretty much switched to evening runs.  Here's hoping it's a little nicer tonight . . . I'm looking to do another track workout (unless it's too yucky, in which case, I'll shift the speed to Thursday).  Planning a "ladder" -- 400, 800, 1200, 800, 400 with 400m rest between each repeat.  (I'm posting the plan here so that y'all can hold me to it!)

    Doing more than about 2 miles of the fast stuff is just too hard when I'm working out by myself . . . I always end up bailing.  Fortunately, I had a chance to meet up with my club's speed coaches at a social gathering this weekend, and am psyched for the beginning of group speed workouts sometime in April. 

    Linda

  • SharonLC
    SharonLC Member Posts: 53
    edited March 2013

    Yay, Natsfan, on your 5K PR!!  Taking those first running steps again is hard to do ... Annette and Lovestorun ... happy for both of you and Addey good to have you back on the thread, keep those C25K postings coming!

    Welcome to sandpiper1 ... my husband was a brisk walker for a year and against running ... this year, he decided to try since the rest of us (me and our daughters 7 & 11) were enjoying running and doing races ... needless to say, since he was walking briskly already, he jumped straight into running 3 miles and has ran a few 5K's already this year and is now shooting for a 10K ... he's addicted, too ... you may get addicted like the rest of us on this thread ... have fun with it! I was "on the couch" and started with C25K last May ... in February I ran my first HM using Galloway's run/walk training method. Since you are a brisk walker already, you will probably breeze through the C25K program. Check out Galloway's method online after that ... I hope you enjoy it ...  keep on posting!

    Has anyone on this thread been able to stay on Tamoxifen long term? Just started on Tamoxifen last Monday.  I know a lot of people that have stopped taking it due to SE. There are others on this thread that are about to start ... any encouragement out there for Tamoxifen? After a week, I am doing well so far. For those that had SE, how long before you noticed it?

    Thank you, Sharon

  • LuvLuLu
    LuvLuLu Member Posts: 377
    edited March 2013

    Hi Sharon:  I did tamoxifen for 5 years starting in 2002 and had no noticeable side effects. Ran thru it all, ran thru rads with no problem. I used to get annoyed when they would help me off the table and call me "honey" and I'm like, kid, I ran 7 miles before I came in here this morning, I think I'm ok.

    Good luck to you! Cool

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited March 2013

    Sharon, I can also offer encouragement on Tamoxifen.  I was on it for three years before my onc switched me over to Arimidex.  My side effects, as far as I could tell, were minimal.  (I put that "as far as I could tell" in there because I think it's hard to sort out the effects of the drug from the lingering effects of other treatments, chemopause, and just plain getting older.)  I noticed increased stiffness, occasional (fairly mild) hot flashes, and this weird kind of vaginal flatulence (fortunately VERY occasional, but embarrassing as hell when it happened).  I gained a little bit of weight and am finding it very hard to shed.  

    All in all, tamoxifen was a very do-able drug for me, and I wasn't thrilled about the switch to arimidex; I was afraid AIs would be harder.  Pleased to report that hasn't been the case -- so far so good, and I've been on it a year and a half now.  So yeah, while I know a lot of women who really struggle on these drugs, don't assume that you will.  The fact that you're doing OK so far is a great sign!

    LuvLuLu, you hit on one of my pet peeves: being called "honey" (or "sweetie") by medical personnel.  God, do I hate that!!  So freaking condescending.

    Linda

  • pat01
    pat01 Member Posts: 1,005
    edited March 2013

    Mary - congrats on PR!

    Adey - welcome back.  I too need to start over with C25K, as all my training from last year is sadly gone.  Just seem to be in a slump.

  • firstcall
    firstcall Member Posts: 499
    edited March 2013

    One year on Tamoxafen with no complaints.....occasional night sweats, but hasnt been a big deal. 

  • firstcall
    firstcall Member Posts: 499
    edited March 2013

    OK.....you're not going to believe this.  Yesterday at the end of my work day I thought I had a rock in my shoe.  I took my shoe off, cleaned it out and put it back on......still felt like a rock in my shoe.   So I took my sock off and couldnt believe what I found.   I have shingles on the bottom of my left foot!   Less than 4 weeks to Boston, and I have shingles on the bottom of my foot.  I had shingles on my right arm a few months ago, of course that is the arm affected by my surgeries.  When does it stop?  April will be a year since the completion of chemo, but the effects linger. I had to take January off from running because of a stress fracture in my right foot, so my time to prepare was short to begin with.  So I started the meds right away and this morning I ran anyway.  Yes, it felt like I was running on gravel barefoot.  6 miles.  I don't dare ask.....what next?    Can you believe it?    But you know what....I still feel very fortunate because my recent biopsy was negative.  This will pass. 

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited March 2013

    Firstcall, you have a great attitude -- but still, THIS SUCKS!!

    I've never heard of shingles on the bottom of the foot -- mainly on the legs.  Is it excruciatingly painful?  It sounds like it would be awful.  I'm amazed you were able to run . . . that says a lot about your commitment (or your insanity Tongue Out).

    I hope this resolves quickly, as in, tomorrow.

    Linda

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited March 2013

    Oh man! Shingles! (I have a note to self to get that vaccination!)

    I know what you're probably thinking, like, "something does not want me to go to Boston". Does the zoster virus express itself under stress? I have some viral flare ups under stress. (I'm rocking it now, thanks to the joys of work.) I even woke up the middle of the night after my first half with Bell's palsy, when the accumulated stress just overflowed. (Literally -- the drooling on the pillow actually was what woke me up.)

    I hope it clears up before then and you can get the rest of your training in!

  • Fritoz
    Fritoz Member Posts: 19
    edited March 2013

    oh my goodness! Wishing you a speedy recovery firstcall.

    My husband had shingles on his back, after taking valtrex it was gone within a week. 

    I am signed up to do a ToughMudder in PA this June. Going through radiation right now #7/28... I was running 18miles/week before I started, but I am afriad to run through the radiation because my skin is already getting pretty irritated from treatment. Any advice on powders or sports bras to help with this? Have any of you been able to run throughout radiation? 

    To paraphrase Dorie from "Finding Nemo".. Just keep running, just keep running :)

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