Perjeta/Herceptin/Taxotere

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  • ango74
    ango74 Member Posts: 255
    edited March 2013

    Hope4acure

    I just say my onco yesterday and she said really feels that TDM1 should be given with just regular herceptin.  TDM1 just goes straight to the tumor only so if there are cancer cells floating just floating around it doesn't do anything to them.  I think she is right.  I have also seen so many women have the same results.  Excelant for the liver and not so great for the lungs and brain. 

    I hope what you are on now gives you great results!!

  • Kjones13
    Kjones13 Member Posts: 1,520
    edited March 2013

    I think tdm1 is herceptin plus whatever the name of the chemo is...anyway tdm1 and herceptin are both targeted therapies, not systemic...not a dr though.

  • bhd1
    bhd1 Member Posts: 3,874
    edited March 2013

    i had the rash on face. it went away on its own.  onc said it was from the steroids

  • Tiger_Blood
    Tiger_Blood Member Posts: 270
    edited March 2013

    I have blown through 3 chemos since my DX in March 2011. This combo seems to be working for me. Cea markers went from 92 to 4. My scan results came back with regression and some bone mets have healed. Hoping this works for awhile. I do take the Taxotere at a 70 percent dose. It has really helped me with the side effects

  • Jlynn0807
    Jlynn0807 Member Posts: 89
    edited March 2013

    Posts like that Tiger...that make these ses worthwhile!

    Congrats, and may your progress/healing continue on!

    Nice to hear success stories like this.  Currently dragging, but I can say the tumor in my breast....is almost gone.  It was quite large.  All I can do to find it now, and prior to first transfusion, you couldn't miss it!

    Lynn

  • formygirls
    formygirls Member Posts: 916
    edited March 2013

    Lilylady and Tiger,

    Great to read your posts and congratulations on the good scans.

  • Z28Femme
    Z28Femme Member Posts: 99
    edited March 2013

    Just started the chemo March 7th and I'm starting to notice some side effects. It tastes like everything I'm eating has hot sauce on it with major acid reflux and this red rash/acne on my shoulders, neck and part of my face. I had a horrible bout of diarrhea this morning and super bad migraine last night. Normally I am constipated and have to take miralax, plum juice and 3 stool softeners each night. Maybe I can cut out the plum juice and miralax! Anyone have the same problem?!

    I've had a colonoscopy before and it isn't that bad. The worst part is not being able to eat anything the day prior to the procedure and drinking that horrible barium stuff. They put you under and you can't feel anything when they go into to look at your "lower half."

  • SPAMgirl
    SPAMgirl Member Posts: 1,470
    edited March 2013

    I've always been constipated living off Mirilax and senakot, but not any more. I take my taxotere in smaller weekly doses, instead of a large one every 3 weeks. I get my chemo every Monday and I spend every fri-sun in the bathroom. A little over a year ago I didn't have any idea what senakot or Imodium were about, but I guess that's changed.



    But I don't have any headaches. Are you staying well hydrated? Getting plenty of electrolytes.

  • bhd1
    bhd1 Member Posts: 3,874
    edited March 2013

    lilylady thanks for this thread.   what is 18 months pfs?

  • bhd1
    bhd1 Member Posts: 3,874
    edited March 2013

    Is snyone having sore throat and headache from pth?

  • bhd1
    bhd1 Member Posts: 3,874
    edited March 2013

    are we allowed to take metamucil?   what do you take for pain?  

  • Bondgirl
    Bondgirl Member Posts: 140
    edited March 2013

    Z28Femme,

    I have a lot of the same side effects as you. I had bad acid reflux prior to diagnosis that is well controlled with medication; however, from about day 2 or 3 post treatment until day 7 the acid reflux is horrible. If you are not taking anything I would ask your onco for a prescription for prevacid or nexium or first try over the counter prilosec. It makes eating suck especially with the taste bud issues. I also got the horrible acne on my face (mainly chin), neck, shoulders and chest after first treatment.  My onco prescribed a antibiotic and a cream that cleared it up pretty quickly.  It was actually painful I was so broken out. Now my breakouts are limited to when I get my period (and yes I am still getting my period faithfully every freaking month!).  As for headaches, when I was on Herceptin the first time in 2010 we realized that if they slowed down the infusion to an hour rather than 30 minutes that made a difference for me. So this time around I am still doing a slower drip on the Herceptin.  I still get mild headaches but I attribute it to dehydration and/or stress and Tylenol works pretty well most times. Finally, Immodium controls my diarrhea well. I have taken Lotomil before but that backed me up. For those women who are practically left homebound because of the D I think Lotomil is probably worth a try.

  • JillThut
    JillThut Member Posts: 1,470
    edited March 2013

    No headache for me but sore throat..yes.

  • kingcour
    kingcour Member Posts: 93
    edited March 2013

    Yes, I lose my voice a week out from treatment every time.  A few days later, I am fine.

    bhd1- PFS is progression free survival. I think the women who did our treatment averaged 18 months before progressing.  Some more...some less.  We will hope for more! ;)

  • bhd1
    bhd1 Member Posts: 3,874
    edited March 2013

    what is everyone doing for cramps ?  i have them in back of neck,  back,  side, etc

  • Z28Femme
    Z28Femme Member Posts: 99
    edited March 2013

    Bondgirl,

    I was told not to take Tylenol or Ibuprofen because they can mask the symptoms of a fever. I take Ranitidine, a generic rx form of Zantac, for the acid/indigestion and it has helped a lot. My onc is willing to prescribe something else if this stops working. My headaches & migraines have been quite a nuisance since my first dosing of chemo...I don't want to take Imitrex on a daily basis in order to function. I notice my tastebuds are starting to act funny as well, and that is depressing! I need to find a balance for the bowels, and I'm sure I will be able to even it out once I get used to my regimine. I'm wondering if I will still have my menses during my treatments...

  • SPAMgirl
    SPAMgirl Member Posts: 1,470
    edited March 2013

    I had a sore throat for awhile and now I've just given it up for a runny nose and watery eyes. I look like I'm crying all of the time. Chemo always shoves Tylenol down my throat before I get Herceptin. I'm completely miserable if I don't take my Prilosec every day. I do notice that my diarrhea is much worse after I drink milk. I miss my milk and my vit. D dropped on my last blood test. Just as of this week, I have a huge red rash all over my face and my skin breakouts where I had band-aid. I also woke up to a huge blister on my heel that broke right before work.



    I don't really like these SEs, but I really don't want to burn through chemos.

  • Lorijo6600
    Lorijo6600 Member Posts: 51
    edited March 2013

    I'm coming up on my 3rd tx. My onc reduced my taxotere 20% on the second treatment and it really helped with the side effects. Barb, I get really bad charlie horses, too. The worst are in my stomach muscles or back. I haven't found anything that helps, except pain meds. I notice when I take percocet for the bone pain (the best for that deep, aching pain), I also have significantly less cramps. Z28, my doc also said no fever reducers. He lost a patient once because the guy took advil for his fever and the fever went down. By the time he finally went to the hospital, he was so sick they couldn't save him. Also, prilosec works really well for the heartburn. Take it every day. I wish my tms were reliable. Honestly, I've been stage IV for 6 years and they are never abnormal. The doc doesn't even check them any more. I just have to wait for my next scan to see if this is working.




  • bhd1
    bhd1 Member Posts: 3,874
    edited March 2013

    Lori 6 yrs NBC. Wow. I hope u have 6 x 6. More. When r your scans?

  • Lorijo6600
    Lorijo6600 Member Posts: 51
    edited March 2013

    Barb, I haven't asked but my understanding is it is generally after the 3rd round. I have my 3 rd one Monday. So hopefully soon. My last scans before i started pht showed new spread to liver, and new activity in lung lymph nodes and in pleural effusion. That was the first time it had spread out of my lungs.



  • bhd1
    bhd1 Member Posts: 3,874
    edited March 2013

    I was thinking scans three wks after 3rd infusion. Whenever your scans come , I hope you get a great response. I care

  • bhd1
    bhd1 Member Posts: 3,874
    edited March 2013

    How much More is the loading dose of thp treatment. compared to the rest of the treatment doses

  • Kaelia
    Kaelia Member Posts: 163
    edited March 2013

    I hope you receive good news on your next scans Lori :)

  • Kaelia
    Kaelia Member Posts: 163
    edited March 2013

    Barb, I had a scan after 3 cycles, then 2 weeks after the 6th cycle.

  • Jlynn0807
    Jlynn0807 Member Posts: 89
    edited March 2013

    Z28...

    Read your last thought....and will tell you I am 46yo....chemo Friday...."it" started two days later, same as always, and right on time.  I was hoping it wouldn't.  Maybe in time that will change?

    Lynn

  • SPAMgirl
    SPAMgirl Member Posts: 1,470
    edited March 2013

    4th day today, so it's time to move into the bathroom. Except I have to run kids around all day. One of the trips being an hour away. I hope there are a lot of nice bathrooms between here and there. My DS is 8 so I can't exactly take him into the bathroom with me, but I really hate to leave him alone in the store.



    Since I spend 2 days a week in the bathroom, I should probably make it a nicer place to hang out. Any ideas? I don't think I can get a TV in there. Maybe I should install a stand for my iPad?

  • bhd1
    bhd1 Member Posts: 3,874
    edited March 2013

    this tx is so hard, how disappointing it will be if it doesnt work

  • hope4acure
    hope4acure Member Posts: 29
    edited March 2013

    I am glad that to see others having heartburn as well.Mine was horrible to the point eating food caused discomfort. I finally had to break down and ask my doctor to prescribe protonix so far it is working. Tomorrow we finally add taxotere to my regimine, after delaying cause i am not tolerating perjeta side effects very well.

  • Z28Femme
    Z28Femme Member Posts: 99
    edited March 2013

    I had my second round of Taxol this past Thursday (March 14). Two days later I'm facing severe stomach cramping with diarrhea. However, I did enjoy some Taco Bell Friday night and I've been trying to put the blame on that--no more spicy foods for me! I'm doing a bland diet now trying to recover for the workday on Monday...

    Also noticed nosebleeds..

  • bhd1
    bhd1 Member Posts: 3,874
    edited March 2013

    Femme oh ok. I thought second round was easier. Smaller dose. Feel better

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