January 2013 chemo group
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Bryona, good luck tomorrow! I bet your students will be very happy to have you back at the head of their class.
Six out of 45 teachers at your school is a sobering statistic. That's higher than the national average (I think?).
Good luck tomorrow to the ones headed in for the last AC and to those who are scheduled for any other treatment.
Wishing everyone little or no side effects!
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Best wishes, Bryona, for a good week at school! I start Herceptin/Taxol on March 28th ....
Best of luck to everyone who is going for treatment tomorrow ...
Happy dreams to all and hugs and prayers, Martha
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Bryona~
Good luck going back to work. I hope you will have some continued flexibility. In my experience, Taxol has some continuing fatigue associated with it and I hate to think of you working 55 hours/week on Taxol!
During the conference yesterday, one of the speakers noted that breast cancer rates are higher in Oregon and Washington than the rest of the country. No one seems to know why. Vitamin D maybe?? I hope that Red Sunshine collects layers of dust on your bookshelf!!!
Good luck with your first Taxol. May it be uneventful and may your side effects be few!
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Bryona, all the best with work. And you reckon you're not tough?!! Working through chemo gives you Rambo status!!!
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Bryona, just getting to know all of you here. Good luck returning to work. Try not to work too hard. You are strong though. Take your rest as needed!
Nicole . Yes, 6 out of 45? Wow. Cancer used to be something you heard that elderly people got. It is far too prominent and getting to people far to young. Very scary.
Good luck to all venturing into treatment today. Feel well! -
Chemo at 9am hopefully... I hope my counts are up...
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Have a great day Bryona!
Good luck to thise of heading out for tx this week! -
Byrona - Good luck at school. Get the kids to help you with as much as you can--passing things out, collecting papers or anything else that requires a lot of physical movement. That will allow you to conserve your energy.
I taught secondary for 10 years many moons ago. At that time, studies suggested that teachers in general had a higher incidence of BC. Not sure if that is still true, but I know we had a significant number of BC survivors at a couple of schools where I taught.
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Skigirl, You're in my thoughts this morning as you go for AC - is this your last round? I hope that the day is uneventful and that the SEs are minimal. By the way, you look beautiful and strong - great photo!
duckiedee, It's amazing how a remark can throw me for a loop as well. I do hope that your nails are ok through your treatment.
Best wishes to all for a good day, Martha
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So far AC#3 still is okay. I sure hope AC#4 is the same or do I dare hope for better?!. March 20 is the final AC! Then onto 4 dose dense taxol every other week. I went to work last week for one day and start back Wednesday. I am five days on, five days off, only working about 5 hours the days I do work. I have a great employer and colleagues who help out. I am very fortunate. If Taxol is easier on me, I may work more days but will stay at 5 hours until treatment ends.
Zorina: thanks for the encouragment on Taxol. You and many others say, other than lingering fatigue, which I can handle, it is easier than AC. Here's hoping it is the same for me. I only get 4 every other week so I am not sure how SE's may differ but I'll take it!
Bryona: Congrats on work. Just remember to take days when you need them. You don't want to get sick! It is great you are going back. BC has nothing over us power women. I too, work in a school district as a communications coordinator. I am not a teacher so I don't have direct contact with the students on a daily basis. My office is in an elementary building which concerns my MO a bit. I am the 5th woman in my building to have bc. I believe I am the 12th in the entire district. We have more than 45 females but the number is still too high in my opinion. Have fun at work and enjoy!!! Life is slowely coming back to normal for you.
Skigirl: good luck on your WBC and your tx's. Greek Peak is great. I used to ski alot until I had my son and have not been back since! Skis are collecting dust in the basement! Road trip it is!
All the best to everyone on minimal SE's and having great days ahead!
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Jules I am 6x3, but on TAC. I find that by week 3 I'm feeling normal, and then BANG! This #4 has done a number on me. I'm at odds because I can't really say it has been worse than others in some ways, just different. I've been miserable this weekend, but so far the taste thing isn't quite as bad . . . yet . . . and knocking on wood. But, I haven't been able to function either. And I can't even get excited about thinking there are only 2 more left, because that simply means I have two more awful recovery periods. Hang in there lady! You will get through this. This must be the most difficult time for us when we get into the depth of the valley because we can see just as much in front of us as we can behind us. But soon the road ahead will be shortened.
Skigirl glad you are getting AC behind you today.
Bryona good luck at work! I'm glad for you to be able to get back to the real world, but hope it isn't too much.
honeybair congrats on the new grandbaby! That is so exciting. And what a treat it will be when you can meet her and hold her for the first time. I'm sorry for you not being able to be there with your daughter for now, but your time will come.
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Finished with A now we are on C... YAY! My count was 0.7 on Friday and 1.7 today. Still low but high enough to treat! I start taxol on April 1st. Perfect. LOL
I have 4 female friends that have/had BC. So, 5 in my immediate circle... REALLY??? Must be something in the water. I had one GF come up to me and say she was going for her first mammo and was nervous. This is the first routine one and she is a mess. She said she could only imagine what I was feeling when I went in for mine. I told her hopefully she will never have to...
Thanks to everyone for the taxol updates. I am starting to get some info from the nurses. Definitely B6 and Glutamine and apparently I'm going to get snowed on benadryl too... sweet... some sleep!!!
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Skimommi - I am having a better day today than yesterday (emotionally...not physically). I think the SE's from the taxotere are starting to drive me slowly insane. I itch. My hands itch, my feet itch, my trunk itches, my eyes itch, my mouth itches (my tongue even itches!!). I can deal with the fatigue...but the itching... I know the only way through the chemo valley is through the chemo valley - but i'm hoping my MO will agree to speed up this journey. I wanna shoot to do the remaining treatments every two weeks. I'm sure he will dismiss me as crazy but a girl has got to try. I hope the chemo funk lifts soon and you get to enjoy the fact you only have 2 left! Pretty soon only 1 left! Then...DONE. Just imagine looking back through that valley and laughing.
Bryona - good luck at work today! Isn't it kinda nice to have to think about something other than treatment?
skigirl - congrats on your last AC! That is a major milestone and a reason to celebrate.
honeybair - you will be able to hold that sweet grandbaby very soon. Congrats on your first grandchild! My mom says becoming a grandma is better than becoming a parent
Here's to a SE free week.
Julie
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Skigirl ~ Congrats on being done with Adriamycin!!!! Isn't it such a relief after that last vial goes in? Wishing you super easy side effects.
You may want to chat with your oncologist or nurses about the level of Glutamine you want to take with Taxol. I heard a lot of women doing 30 grams/per day (10 grams 3x/day). My naturopath suggested starting with 10 grams per day with the possibility of going up to 30. I experienced fingernail pain after my first treatment so I took my glutamine up to 20 g right after starting Taxol. My liver enzymes were high when I got them checked before my 2nd treatment -- not high enough to block treatment but high enough to be of concern. I made a deal with my NP that I would take the glutamine back down to 10g as long as the nail pain/tingling comes and goes (which is exactly what it has been doing after my second tx). If it comes and stays, I will likely tell my liver to hang tough for 4 weeks and take the dose back up. It's a tricky thing to balance.
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Skigirl: yay done with AC!!! I am behind you next week!! I hope your SE's are minimal!!! Let me know how #4 treats you.
Nicole: How many Taxol do you have and how often? You may have told me this before but I have chemo brain!!! I know you said it was eaiser than AC and I am keeping my fingers crossed it is!!!
BEst all!
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ywheels22 ~I am doing dose dense Taxol so I have 4 treatments, 2 weeks apart. Same schedule I had for the AC. I still have to do neupogen in between the Taxol treatments, but fewer shots (Glory Hallelujah!)
I totally hear you about chemo brain!!! One of the sessions I went to at the Komen conference on Saturday was on chemo brain and it was super helpful! I learned that research confirms that chemo brain clearly exists but that emotional stress probably accounts for a significant proportion of the challenges we experience. It's the chemo AND the stress which means that there are two things we need to do do decrease chemo brain problems:
1. For actual chemo toxicity, maximize physical health and wellness in all possible ways (diet, exercise, sleep, etc).
2. For stress, manage and decrease negative emotions to the extent possible (promoting positive thoughts, integrating kindness and compassion towards oneself as part of a wellness plan, attending to spiritual issues, etc).
The speaker spent a lot of his talk on practical coping strategies since chemo brain symptoms can last up to a year. He talked about the importance of really paying attention and the benefits that mindfulness meditation can have on our ability to really take information in so that we can recall it later. He talked about effective organizational systems, using digital/smart phones and "borrowing what works" from the considerable research that has been done on patients with early memory loss.
He left me feeling really validated about that challenges that I'm having, good about the way that I'm already addressing them, planted some seeds for other things I can do, and reassured me that this too shall pass.
Hope this is helpful.
Oh....wait......your question was about Taxol, not about chemo brain!
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Nicole- I took note of one you posted a few days ago about the liver. I told the MO that I was going to start out on the smaller dose. Are you doing glutamine every day or a few days surrounding tx? I heard both ways so not sure what to do. Do I take it everyday or just 3 days following tx day? Hmmm I have 3 days of a steroid high in front of me so I will have some time to research this. lol
And I do believe that staying positive helps us in our recovery. Keep a big prize dangling out in front of you at the end of your treatment. Keep reaching for it... at the end of this go get the prize and celebrate. I'm booking a weekend in the ADK (Adirondack Mountains) when chemo is done and before they take the rest of my lymph nodes. We decided today to book it. That's my happy place.
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Lee - are you wearing the Halo Bob in your pic? It looks similar to what i just ordered (i'm even going to try out blond because, why not?!?) As of now I don't leave home without my wig..but with warmer weather coming I think going topless with a light buff may be a little more comfy. I'm hoping it's adjustable because i have a childsize head (literally. when i measure it i fall into a super petite category
To those that have halo's...yay? nay? Advice?
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I like my halo. I have worn it with a bandanna. Definitely the way to go when it gets warm out. That wig is going to feel like a heater.
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Nicole: Thanks! I am doing most of that but eating well is not easy. I either don't eat or eat like crap when I do. Before cancer, I was very fit and had an extremely lean diet (I was about 18% body fat) Now all I can stomach are carbs! Ugh! I plan to get on track after chemo but it is hard now because so many things just don't taste good!
Skigirl: We have friends with homes in the ADX. It is beautiful there. Enjoy. We also planned a trip, actually before DX. We are going to Nags Head in the Outer Banks a week and half after my last treatment over Memorial Week. I cannot wait. Happy place indeed!
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julesDenver, yes, that's the halo wig. The brand is Rene of Paris.
I bought it at a place in North Hollywood called Wilshire Wigs. Here's a link to the actual product:
http://www.wilshirewigs.com/HALO-BOB-by-Rene-of-Paris-pr-4651.html
I went there last week and bought another wig (and now, I think I am finished with wigs!).
This last one is because I started thinking about the TSA and traveling and having to take off a cap (and the halo) in front of a line of people and decided a shorter wig would be better. I sure do hope I don't have to take it off! Gack!
I tried a wig on the day I tried on the halo that was so much more comfortable than the long wig I bought back in November. The brand is Estetica and I just bought it off the wigstand. It was a new one and I didn't feel like ordering it and perhaps not liking the color. It is so much more comfortable than my long wig that I even wore it for the infusion last week (which is saying a lot considering I really want to be comfortable during all that).
It's the second one (called Devin) and I bought it in that color. Much blonder than I usually am in real life (ha, certainly this sh*t isn't real life, right?) but I thought it might be smart to have the halo and the wig sort of match.
http://www.esteticadesigns.com/notice_details.asp?mid=0&index=0&sid=10&n=26
On another note, I am so sorry you're experiencing all this itching. A friend of mine developed a skin condition as part of a reaction to Neupogen. I don't think it involved itching but it was one of the more serious skin reactions so I'm glad you're having it monitored.
I'm coming out of number four fog right now so apologies for this rather disjointed post!
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ywheels22 - I love your photo. You look happy, healthy and beautiful! I hear you on the carbs. I really went overboard this time and am very annoyed with myself. On the other hand, it was almost impossible to think of anything I could even come close to putting in my mouth.
I have never been at 18% body fat but I had been doing pretty good with protein versus carbs (prior to diagnosis). Once this is over I'm going to go on the 17-Day diet for three weeks or so to get myself back to some semblance of normal.
Skigirl and Nicole503, I am in complete agreement regarding staying positive - especially since it's not something I've ever fully mastered.
I know I've mentioned this before but I've never been one to watch television "evangelists;" however, one night as I was flicking through channels I landed on Joel Osteen and for some reason a half hour of him once a week has really helped me stay positive throughout this (starting a week or two post-BMX). My husband's longtime friend (since childhood) recently texted my husband and said he had watched Joel Osteen (I was shocked and thought he was joking).
Also, since diagnosis I saw part of a special on PBS featuring Daniel Amen, MD. He discussed how positive thinking impacts the brain.
"Mark George, M.D., from the National Institutes of Mental Health, demonstrated this phenomena in an elegant study of brain function. He studied the activity of the brain in 10 normal women under three different conditions. He studied these women when they were thinking about happy thoughts, neutral thoughts and sad thoughts. During the happy thoughts, the women demonstrated a cooling of the deep limbic system. During the sad thoughts, he noticed a significant increase in deep limbic system activity. Powerful evidence that your thoughts matter!"
Here's a link in case anyone is interested: ANT Therapy (Daniel Amen, MD) http://ahha.org/articles.asp?Id=100
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Skigirl72 ~ I am taking glutamine every day. 5 g with breakfast and 5 g with dinner. I've heard women who only take it around the taxol infusion but my naturopath recommended daily and it feels better to me because some days I have taxol SE's (sore tender fingernails/toenails) and sometimes I don't. Yesterday I noticed the slightest tingling in my fingertips after a hot bath. It went away as I cooled down, but it makes me motivated to continue with daily glutamine/vitB6/vitB12.
We have also booked a trip, although ours will not take place until June. My youngest is graduating from 5th grade, my middle is graduating from 8th grade, and their mama will be not only graduated but hopefully largely recovered from chemo. We are going to DISNEYLAND!!! I know it is some people's idea of a nightmare but I am really looking foward to it. We are staying at the Grand Californian and we can swim and sun when we want, see the park when we want, go to the gym, get a massage, and eat (and DRINK) what I want!!! I can totally see it in my mind's eye, and it makes me smile.
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Hi Everyone!
Bryona - good luck back at work! I will miss your thoughtful posts but given the hours you put into your job, understand if we don't 'see' you as often. Just throw us an occasional pun and I'll be happy
Skigirl, Glad it all worked out today! And now you can kiss A/C good bye and it can kiss your ***! So happy for you.
ywheels, i'm with you on the eating...I was eating more veganish before all of this and now I'm just eating what appeals to me and it's all junk...I will have a major detox when it's all over, and a few pounds to lose!
Jules, so sorry to hear about the itching. Not sure if this is any help but one of my mentors told me she got terrible itching after her 3rd T/C and through much trial and error found out she had developed a sensitivity to her laundry detergent...maybe there's something you're using that can't be tolerated any longer??? ((hugs)) to you - you've had a rough go with these pesky SEs!
I hope you all have a good week, smooth treamtments for those on deck and minimal DEs to all!
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Nicole, I just read your post about Disneyland! I love visiting Disney - we go to DW a couple of times a year and I always visit DL when I'm in so Cal. It's such a happy place, and I'm so happy you are going! The Californian is such a beautiful hotel, too...I can't wait to hear all about your trip!
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I've lived in Southern California almost fourteen years and have never been to Disneyland (in the traditional sense); however, we did go to the gospel brunch at The House of Blues (at Disneyland) about five years ago.
It gets mixed reviews at Ticketmaster (some really positive - some not so positive) but we thought it was fun and had a great time.
http://reviews.ticketmaster.com/7171/972255/house-of-blues-gospel-brunch-reviews/reviews.htm
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Hmm, maybe my husband and I should go one of these days between treatments (but not on a weekend). I've been to Universal Studios twice and enjoyed that (years ago, when my son was young).
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Nicole 503 - I am curious about your liver enzymes being elevated due to glutamine. Can you tell me exactly what blood tests show the liver enzymes. Is it the AST or is it a specific test done for liver enzymes? I have been taking 30 grams of L-glutamine all throughout my taxol and have not had any comments made about liver enzymes being elevated. Just curious.
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My mom was very ill, and with the permission of my MO, I traveled to Bogota, Colombia. It was a rough journey, I talked with her, and said good bye. I spend a lot of time with her at the hospital. She passed away last Monday, and I am really sad, a part of me is not with me anymore.
Life must continue, I had my TC #4 today. -
So sorry to hear about your mom. My Mom passed away 8 years ago this June. I think about her every day. Glad to hear you got to see her. That's important. Take your time and grieve. Good for you to be able to continue your treatment. She may just give you extra strength from heaven...
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