Pathology report conflicting her-2 score

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KarenT
KarenT Member Posts: 1

My path report reads like this: her-2 score ...3+ (neg)



A 3+ should be positive. Now I don't feel like I'm going to trust any answer that comes back. It could mean I'm triple negative or just her-2 positive because ER and PR's are neg.



I'm also grade 8/9 aggressive but stage for size of lump is a 1.



Any comments?



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  • Heidi9256
    Heidi9256 Member Posts: 87
    edited February 2013

    I am ER/PR - and my path report for HER2 goes like this:

    Immunohistology was 2+ which is borderline - could go either way (a 3+ on this test is a strong postitive for HER2)

    FISH test was negative (for gene amplification) but low positive for protein overexpression which technically makes me HER2 +

    So my oncologist is starting me on TCH - the treatment for HER2+ tumors.  Assuming the test is correct, am I really HER2 positive even though it is so low or am I more triple negative and I would benefit more from ACT or even ACTH?  My tumor is aggressive and growing quickly so I hope we get this right the first time.  I am interested to hear what others have to say.

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 3,345
    edited February 2013

    Heidi, I think it is good to get the herceptin. There are a couple studies going on treating women with her2 neutral with herceptin. I'm not sure if any results are out yet, but I am guessing herceptin would still be good. Adriamycin is a good drug, but can be damaging to your heart. They don't usually give it with herceptin since that is also hard on the heart at times. Although I had both and am now on two medications for my heart. My advice is get another opinion and maybe have another pathologist look at the sample.

  • Heidi9256
    Heidi9256 Member Posts: 87
    edited February 2013

    There was a randomized study a couple of years ago that showed at least some benefit of TCH in all breast cancer groups regardless of HER2 status (a LOT of benefit for HER2+).  There has been a push for TCH instead of ACT since Adriamycin is so heart toxic and THC appears to be effective in all types of breast cancer.  I just want to make sure that test is right since it's kind of in the gray area.  I'm going to talk to my doctor about this tomorrow.

    As far as KarenT goes, 3+ is supposed to be a strong positive so I'm not sure why it says negative.  What did the onco say?

  • Susie123
    Susie123 Member Posts: 804
    edited February 2013

    My original pathology report was borderline on the her2 status so they ordered a FISH test, which is conclusive, and it was negative. The onco said the fish test is more detailed and reliable. I'm stage 1 grade 1, so not an aggressive cancer but still needed the FISH test to get a definite result on her2 status. Ask your onco about the FISH test so you can know exactly what you're dealing with for a better treatment plan. If her2 positive that's herceptin for a full year probably with chemo if aggressive, if triple negative them chemo is the weapon of choice and no herceptin. Pathology is key to treatment plans for all of us.

  • kathleen1966
    kathleen1966 Member Posts: 793
    edited February 2013

    I think my path report says Her2+ +3 and I was considered Her2+. I'm sure you will ask them about this.  You should be positive.

  • Katko
    Katko Member Posts: 8
    edited March 2013

    Hello

    I am cofused on my path report(HER part)

    ER+  90%

    PR+   90%

    HER2/neu(4B5) Positive/Negative/Equivocal,ASCO/CAP IHC score 0+

    Anybody with similar results?

  • frankp
    frankp Member Posts: 6
    edited March 2013

    I think women with questionable HER2 tissue status--maybe all women--should get a baseline serum HER2 test. If that value is elevated, then a re-evaluation of the tissue is in order. In either event, the serum test can be (should be) repeated fairly often--a falling value during chemtherapy is a good sign. Check www.oncogene.com or see www.hertestonline.com and the new article discussed in the March blog section.

  • kyrste01
    kyrste01 Member Posts: 2
    edited April 2013

    My first Her2Neu test was equivocal (2+).  So, they ordered a FISH test which came back positive (9.75 amplified).  They also ordered Symphony tests- Targetprint came back triple negative.

    I'm being treated for Her2Neu positive.  But am wondering if it is possible to have both positive and negative tumor types.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited April 2013

    Karen, I'm not Her2+, but this article from the New York Times has always stuck in my mind, partly because a FISH test was never even done on my bc until I happened to go to an NCI-designated comprehensive cancer center for a second opinion after an initial lumpectomy at a local, regional hospital.  (My bio page gives the whole story.)

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/12/health/12canc.html

    The article is from 2007, but I think its points re. the importance of getting a proper dx are still valid and extremely valuable.

    kyrste, it is possible to have lesions with different or mixed ER/PR values.  Not sure about Her2, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's also possible, since UCLA (where I had my mx) did comprehensive pathologies on each of my 4 lesions.

    (((Hugs))),    Deanna

  • Linda2222
    Linda2222 Member Posts: 9
    edited June 2013

    Please get a second opinion at another facility on your H.E.R. status. I was misdiagnosed as being H.E.R. positive, given herceptin that I didn't even need, and it gave me congestive heart failure. This test is very iffy and in my opinion should be done at least twice at different facilities. I learned the hard way.

  • Linda2222
    Linda2222 Member Posts: 9
    edited June 2013

    Please get a second opinion on your H.E.R. status. My diagnosis was wrong and the herceptin gave me congestive heart failure. H.E.R. is tricky to diagnose. I didn't know that at the time I was diagnosed or I would have gotten a second opinion at another facility. Please spread the word to other ladies that they all should have the H.E.R. part of their diagnosis tested at least twice. I don't want anyone else to go through what I have because of a wrong diagnosis.

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