Any 10 year survivors with no recurrence ILC and no chemo?
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Just wondering if there is anyone on here who had locally advanced lobular cancer and chose not to have chemo and is 10 years on with no recurrence or new primary cancer?
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I am a bit concerned that no one has answered this.....?!
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Maybe post this on the ILC board?
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There is a woman on another board with ILC who has been posting 15 years at least. She had radiation but I'm not sure she finished it. Then there is also Ann Fonfa, president of the Annie Appleseed Project. http://www.livestrong.org/Get-Help/Learn-About-Cancer/Survivor-Interviews/Interviews-with-Women/Ann-Fonfa-is-a-breast-cancer-survivor She had lobular and also Paget's Disease.
I know of another woman out ten years with lobular who just did surgery but she has moved on and is not on the internet groups anymore. Her kids were young when she was diagnosed and I think she wants to put it out of her mind.
Don't be concerned no one answered you here. BCO has very few alternative-minded posters. You have to go to the specialized groups to find a large enough group to get a response. I just happened to see your post but I only come here infrequently.
Anyway, what was right for these women might not be right for you. I guess it's human nature to see if there's a fellow traveler.
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I had no chemo or rads. Choose not to do Tamoxifen too. One year anniversary this month. Wish someone would post so I feel more confident.
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You were only stage 1 though - lobular is often only found when it is grade 2 but you were still only stage 1 with no positived nodes - can you take heart from that? You can also take other things like Indole 3 Carbinol instead of Tamoxifen to help prevent recurrence
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I was dx IDC(lumpectomy) prog/estro-positive- grade 2 stageT1a. Waiting on snb results-I am post menopausal and my mo states if nodes neg. I will have radiation and start on Tamoxifen. I was under the impression Tamox was for premenopausal....Has anybody started on Tamox postmenopausal instead of aromatase inhibitors?
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Katko - I am post menopausal and on Tamoxifen. I started on Arimidex but after six months the se's were too much to continue with it. I have been on Tamoxifen for three years.......but only on 10 mg./day with my oncs approval. Hope you find your way. Good thoughts.
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I did surgery and don't plan on any other conventional treatment...am doing iodine protocol/DIM etc...I did have 7 positive nodes, had them taken out. ILC is not supposed to do well on chemo or Tamoxifen...so, I am in a waiting pattern...time will tell. I will get back to ya in a few years!!! wink wink...
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Which iodine protocol are you on please?
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Hi Lily..Breastcancerchoices.org protocol...Dr. Brownstein...magnesium/ATP Cofactors/ Vitamin C/selenium etc..
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Just for you to take note, for Iodine protocol, it involves in high dosage of ATP cofactor (i.e. B2+B3). However, high doseage of B3 may not be good for ER+/PR+ subtype (page 1180 table 5 of the following paper):
http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/173/10/1171.full.pdf+html
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Hi everyone,
I just started using salt with iodine instead of plain salt to help me with preventing recurrence. It looks like there is more changes I need to do as far as iodine. Can someone let me know if iodine protocal (breastcancerchoices.org) is working? I am ER+,PR+,HER-.
Thanks for your help.
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Joetmn,
I take the iodine protocol without the B3--or the ATP cofactors. My doctor says it just makes the iodine work faster but the B3 aand B2 is not 100% necessary.
He stressed you have to take the selenium tho.
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How much iodine and what kind do you take please?
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Hmmm, very interesting! I am going to check out all of this with other experts on the iodine yahoo groups as well...
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Joe, I read the article about the Chinese women and the vitamins (B3 and others) from dietary intake. I don't think you can draw any conclusions from that.
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Has anyone decided not to take the arimidex? I need to start it but have been putting it off. Ive heard there is pretty bad SE from it..'I guess my question is "has anyone not taken that pill and not had a reaccurence?
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Your goal is to survive. Arimidex has some recurrence benefit but minimal if any survival advantage when all causes are factored in. They are still studying Arimidex in various ways so it's experimental. I wouldn't touch it. Too many heart attacks and strokes associated with it.
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What about letrozole or anastrozole natty?
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Hi Ladies,
I'm new to this thread and have been reading to catching up. Glad to see all the activity and good input here! I'm on Femara (Letrozole). My MO and ND said it was my first line after surgery and best for lobular. I was on it for 15 months with minimal side effects (except diarrhea) and then at 15 mo. I realized how hard it was hitting me. I felt like I was about 90 years old, getting out of bed in the morning, I had to slide out and hobble to the bathroom, my memory sucked and many other things were just "off". When my Dr's saw my list of Se's they said to stop and suggested Tamoxifin (even though I'm post meno.) That sent me into bad depression after only 2 weeks!! I was off of everything for 6 weeks and it was wonderful... Now (after the encouragement of my NO, since I had 3 ITC's in 1 lymph node... I take letrozole every other day or every few days or whatever I feel my body can tolerate. He said "anything is better than nothing" though he knows I also take DIM (Myomin) and many other supplements.
We are all so different - it frustrates me that they try to fit us into a one size fits all medication dosage. Think about it... a 300lb woman is given the same dosage as a 100lb woman... That just doesn't make sense.
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Oops, sorry, I thought I was posting to a different thread....
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But I do want to join in here, too! Wish I could paste back what I posted earlier thinking it was another thread.
Anyway, I'd like to be connected here and one of the many women that post here in a few years about our long term successes!
Hugs,
Shelly
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has anyone else tried Turmeric? The root extract has been found to reduce inflammation(our enemy) and suppress tumor growth and the blood flow to them. Look for one that is ROOT EXTRACT with 95% curcumin(the active ingredient).Think mustard(ful of turmeric). You can use bulk, but careful-it turns teeth and everything it touches yellow!We buy Solaray capsules-you want 300-600mgs. daily. Good luck. I had ILC with no chemo,and as it's turnong out,no hormone therapy. Dx stage IIa, grade 1,Er+,Pr+,her-,clean nodes. I had hypofractionated radiation,only 16 sessions. MRI in July-I'm expecting good news. Hugs!
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Has anyone else tried Turmeric? The root extract has been found to reduce inflammation(our enemy) and suppress tumor growth and the blood flow to them. Look for one that is ROOT EXTRACT with 95% curcumin(the active ingredient).Think mustard(ful of turmeric). You can use bulk, but careful-it turns teeth and everything it touches yellow!We buy Solaray capsules-you want 300-600mgs. daily. Good luck. I had ILC with no chemo,and as it's turnong out,no hormone therapy. Dx stage IIa, grade 1,Er+,Pr+,her-,clean nodes. I had hypofractionated radiation,only 16 sessions. MRI in July-I'm expecting good news. Hugs!
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andy7,
I use tumeric every day. I add it to the food I make. It becomes more powerful if you add black pepper at the same time. I also use it when I make green tea. I add tumeric and cinnamon to the tea, but not black pepper. I have heard that japanese green tea is more beneficial. I also eat fresh garlic, onions, rosemary with my food. I was diagnosed 3 months ago and I am trying to add more healthy food to my diet.
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Just to correct, mustard is a seed. Turmeric is a root. There is NO turmeric in mustard. There is usually turmeric in curry powder, turmeric being the base for the other spices.
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Emerald,
For what it's worth, I'd be super careful with some anonymous source from the Internet cautioning you from using a medication (I quote Natty...."They are still studying Arimidex in various ways so it's experimental. I wouldn't touch it. Too many heart attacks and strokes associated with it.").
It's your life, don't put all your eggs in a basket from an anonymous source.
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Lilly - my sister has lobular and her ONC recommended no chemo or radiation. She had a MX and has to have scans done periodically because they found a small lesion in her lungs. They collapsed her lung and removed it. She was never a smoker and the dr said the lesion has probably been there like 20 years. It comes from some virus birds transmit....of all things. I think you gotta make your own call and base it on what info you have at the time. There is no one size, fits all decision. I am Stage II, up from I after micromet in the SN, and Grade l. I had the Oncotype test done and it came back 11. If you are in doubt always seek a second opinion. There are a zillion good drs out there but it is your life and ultimately your decision just when you make it dont second guess yourself or look back. When the Path report showed a micromet in my SN I got hysterical and told my BS I should have had a MX instead of a lumpectomy. His response was we can do that. But he also said it would get me chemo. It didnt. The ONC ordered the oncotype test so I dodged chemo. Compared to chemo the Rads are nothing. Good luck....diane
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Edwards, Did your sister have any
positive nodes?
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