Starting chemo March 2013

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  • liffeybloomer
    liffeybloomer Member Posts: 72
    edited March 2013

    122012bc, I'm pretty tired right now so can't write a lot but wanted to welcome you to our group. Tell us a little more about your type (hormone receptor? HER 2 status?) and size of tumor and that will help.

    Cherish, glad you decided on the 8 treatments.

    More later... Busy day and tired.

  • NatsFan
    NatsFan Member Posts: 3,745
    edited March 2013

    Joan - when the steroid rush wears off, you'll probably crash.  When that happens just crawl into bed and recover.  Sleep  is one of the best things you can do to help your body recover from the tx.  If you can manage a bit of exercise when you're awake, even just a walk to the corner and back, that will help you sleep even better.  

  • elmrush
    elmrush Member Posts: 17
    edited March 2013

    I find it very comforting to be able to find people that are also beginning Chemo.  I can't thank everyone enough for being so open and honest about their experiences. I have now confirmed my first treatment which will be on March 13th.  Thanks again everyone for your words of wisdom.

  • Soccrmom13
    Soccrmom13 Member Posts: 13
    edited March 2013

    TCH begins for me on the 12th. Port placement next week. Lot's of anxiety regarding the chemo. Ordered a few caps online and they arrived today. Thanks for all the info and advice.

    The weather in Southern California the last few days has been beautiful. I certainly have been enjoying it.

  • cbear
    cbear Member Posts: 33
    edited March 2013

    I am into my 3rd chemo as of last Friday. I had AC Red Devil. Wasnt bad at all really considering. Lost my hair right on time about 14 days after first treatment. Actually the main problem i have had is just tired. My port was a pain for about 3 weeks. They gave me a big one easy to see. And took a while to get use to it. But after this treatment a bit quizzy for days now. Wont take the steroids because they make me crazy feeling. I have 1 more treatment March 15th. Then April 5th i start 12 weeks of Taxol which seems scarier to me. Anyone been thru that and any side effects they had would be appreciated very much. And i still have eye brows. Can anyone tell me if they will go and when i can expect my hair coming back.:) Prayers to all. What a journey

  • Lolalou
    Lolalou Member Posts: 30
    edited March 2013

    122012bc - I start on 3/14 and I'm also doing TC for 4 treatments. I'm glad to see someone else doing the same because I had the same question. I'm going to talk to my surgeon about it next week when I go for my port.

  • liffeybloomer
    liffeybloomer Member Posts: 72
    edited March 2013

    Welcome soccmom13 and cbear. I'm glad our little group is growing. More minds equals more help and support for all of us. Thanks also to the supporters from previous March threads. It's always good to know there is a future for us!

    Day two for me after chemo is starting ok. I can sense a bit more fatigue. I slept for over 9 hours and wouldn't mind crawling back into bed for a bit but I'm going to make myself do something productive first! My port is actually a bit more sore than I expected but nothing that isn't completely bearable.

    Cbear, I have been following the taxol thread in preparation for what to expect there so that might be useful for you. Most say it is easier than AC. Also the hair, hair, hair thread has lots of information about eyebrows. I have read there that often eyebrows and lashes  go right near the end of chemo or even after it but that they come in pretty quickly. There are also tips somewhere for fake eyebrow products.

    It's amazing how much useful information is right here on this site.

    Keep up the good fight!

  • cherish
    cherish Member Posts: 59
    edited March 2013

    Dear Liffeybloomer, sincerely hope you feel better! Have a good rest is the best way to get more productivity ! We all love you !!

  • cherish
    cherish Member Posts: 59
    edited March 2013

    Waiting to get my port on 3/15 but very anxious and sort of depress.... So far, I don't know what's my treatment will be. I think I shall ask my onco instead of keep waiting for the next step. Surfing for the wigs and caps for past couple of days, I love shopping; however, when shopping for those, I become very emotional .....I can't image when I see myself after shave it off...sometimes, in someway I think I'm ready for all of the procedures and understand all of the processes; however, in other way I wish I'm not that brave..... I'm very glad to have a wonderful husband and 2 great kids (18 & 17) with fully supports. I don't want them too worry about me, i always show how strong i am and will be, but in deep down of my heart, anxious and scared are expending....

  • Speedy4
    Speedy4 Member Posts: 136
    edited March 2013

    Hi Ladies, I'm meeting with a MO tomorrow and would appreciate any advice on questions I should ask. My guess is that I will start chemo sometime this month.

    Thanks!

  • cbear
    cbear Member Posts: 33
    edited March 2013

    Yes Cherish i was depressed shopping for wigs and stuff to. And no i could not imagine myself without hair. I tried a wig shop but it didnt work for me. The wigs just didnt look or feel the same for me. So i am now hats and turbons only. I have 1 scarf but it is so hard to get it wrapped and tied to look good. And i have my night cap which i may add is crazy to sleep in because it keeps coming off. But so cold especially here in Tn. If you cut your hair really short it wont be as bad. The treatment is dooable so far for me. Tired was the worst. But i have only had 3 treatments of AC for now. Have 1 more to go of them then 12 of weekly Taxol.

    Speedy4...I got all of my information on first day of treatment. So ask them to give you all the paperwork now on your treatment so you can get ahead of everything. I have a whole book on different things about my treatment of ACT. Mayby others will come along and give you more suggestions. Also you may meet with a nurse practitioner which will give all the information to.

  • liffeybloomer
    liffeybloomer Member Posts: 72
    edited March 2013

    Hi girls,

    Yesterday I was fairly exhausted but today was better. Managed to do some shopping and go to lunch with family and I'm not totally worn out as I was yesterday after doing some grocery shopping. I haven't had any nausea or other side effects so I am happy about that. All in all, I feel pretty normal today. Who knows what tomorrow will bring?

    Cherish, I get a little depressed thinking of hair coming out, but I have a decent wig, some scarves, hats, and a little knit hat so I am ready. This whole thing is scary; don't worry about letting your fears out and confronting them (says someone with absolutely no counseling training!).

    Speedy4, I think that somewhere on this site is a place with a list of suggestions to ask the MO. If you go to the home page and click on "chemotherapy" there is a link to a document suggesting what to ask your MO.

    Cbear, I'm glad to hear your SE weren't too bad after 3 treatments of AC. I was worried but as I said before, so far so good.

  • alcb70
    alcb70 Member Posts: 166
    edited March 2013

    Hi Ladies! I thought I would jump into your group and offer any help I can give. I was originally in the Oct. 2012 group & finished chemo Jan

    9 th of this year. I had neoadjuvent tx and just had my BMX w/ TE's done 2/8. Unfortunately, my path report showed that the carboplatin/taxotere didn't work as well as they liked. Soooo......after all my celebrating of finishing chemo ( I actually brought a cake for my nurses), I have to have dose dense adriamycin for 2 treatments. Originally was going to be 4, but I think he saw I was about to cry & he said 2 should do it. I am SO very depressed about this. It prolongs my herceptin, exchange surgery & radiation. Also prolongs getting a job and going back to work.



    So, since I've already done this...feel free to ask questions!

    My book of tips:

    As a tip for those getting ports- get one of those seatbelt pads (like $4 at Wally World). It will help ease the seatbelt pressure until it heals. My port is on the left and it helped tremendously. Also...if you're someone who tastes IV medicine and flushes-chew or suck on a SOUR candy while they flush (heparin tastes really bad to me). Anticipation is the worst. Because of the pre-meds I got (decadron, benadryl, pepcid, aloxi), I slept through most of my chemo tx! Claritin helps with Neulasta pain for most...of course not me. Don't be afraid to ask your Dr for heavier pain meds if it doesn't work for you. DRINK-DRINK-DRINK!!!! It will help flush the drugs out of your bladder & ward off dehydration & massive headache. Hair- with my chemo regimen it started coming out on day 21. Cut your hair super short before-hand so it isn't so traumatizing. Your scalp will start to itch, then feel like pins are poking you when anything touches your scalp. Expect your hair to come out in clumps shortly after. I am almost 2 months PFC and I have about a quarter- half inch growth (just to lose it all again grrrr). I kept my eyebrows & lashes, but they're thinner. Mouth sores- use Biotene. They have toothpaste, rinse, spray, drops. I only used the rinse & it helped. If yours are terrible, ask your MO to help. There are rinses to ease the pain. I also got thrush. Nails- some people swear by icing. I couln't stand it. I have a horizontal crease for every tx I got. My nails are thin & they lift & break in the corners. Ugly, but ok. Taxotere did make my nailbeds sore. For peeling skin on your hands...put on thick hand cream (I used Norweigen Formula) & put on cotton gloves overnight...works like a charm.



    My "I feel like crap" schedule (everyone is different):

    Chemo day- sleepy bc of meds...just slept....until bedtime then awake from steroids.

    Day 2- feel fine- got Neulasta

    Day 3- felt like a Mack truck hit me, backed up & ran me over

    Day 4-8 - on couch felt like poo

    After day 8 slowly came back to life but fatigued



    I hate to say this...but don't be fooled by how you feel after your 1 st treatment. I actually accepted a job offer because I felt fine by day 4 the 1st tme. After 2nd tx....I knew I couldn't work Unfortunately, the effects are cummulative. This is just my experience & I share only bc I remember trying to plan my activities & not knowing what to expect. It is VERY doable & worth it....worth your life. :0)



    Sorry this is so long, but I hope it helps. Adriamycin will be new for me (I start Thurs.).....so I'll be reading your posts.

    Best of luck to everyone! ~Andrea

  • cherish
    cherish Member Posts: 59
    edited March 2013

    Thanks for all girls, ,cbear, Liffeybloomer, and alcb70!!! Those posts are really warm my up! I was depressed for whole day, not just the hair but also the fears and reactions. It seems like getting complicate once I start to think about it , just like lose in the loop can't find the thread! After reading the posts I feel better, thanks again girls! :)

  • liffeybloomer
    liffeybloomer Member Posts: 72
    edited March 2013

    Thanks for your perspective Andrea, and so sorry you have to go through this again. That is absolutely NOT fair. We have very similar diagnoses except that I am doing Taxol instead of taxotere and my chemo is adjuvent. I'm curious if you would share why you are taking Tamoxifen?  I have heard of studies giving hormonal therapy to HER2 women, but I am not getting it. I am a bit worried about the cumulative effects of AC too. I have heard that #3 can be pretty bad.

    Today is starting off pretty well for me, but I slept over 10 hours last night. It's my first day back at work after chemo, so we'll see how that goes. I don't have to go in until 10 and can come home after my only class ends at 2:15, so I'm hoping I make it. I have a comfy chair and table/ottoman set up in the empty office across from me if I have to lie down, so that helps too.

    Cherish, I'm glad you feel better. It is great to have a support group like this to share our fears and our triumphs.

  • BeHereNow
    BeHereNow Member Posts: 222
    edited March 2013

    Hi all, thanks for sharing so openly about your bc experiences. I am newly diagnosed and had my bmx 5 days ago. I still don't know my stage, but I am expecting to be joining your chemo group this month. I am preparing for that emotionally, even though its not a done deal yet.



    This is my first post on this site. I'm still in shock and deeply sad. It's like I was at a great party, dancing my heart out, having the time of my life, and suddenly the tidal wave came crashing in. At least I got to go to the party :D. And I know there are more to come. For today, I will try to focus on the little joys in my life.



    You're a strong group of women and I'm so grateful you're here.

  • JoelleKC
    JoelleKC Member Posts: 24
    edited March 2013

    Hello friends!

    I was scheduled to start chemo on 2/17, then 2/25 and now 3/11. I have been in the feb group and thought I would jump over here as well. I had a problem with healing following my mastectomy and had to go back in for a surgical revision. Because I was scheduled to begin, I had my port placed over a week ago now. It was pretty sore for the first few days but is much better now. I'm actually glad I had some time for the port to heal before I start. 

    Good luck to all those starting this journey with me!

  • liffeybloomer
    liffeybloomer Member Posts: 72
    edited March 2013

    Welcome beherenow and JoelleKC. I'm glad our group is growing, although I'm sorry for the reasons it has grown. As I read somewhere, welcome to the group no one wants to join! I know what you mean beherenow about being in shock. Before last December I didn't take any medicine at all, and now I take 2-3 pills a day, have chemicals all through my body and will start losing my hair in a week or so. Life changes in a blink.

    Joelle, I would lose my mind if chemo had been put off so many times. I think the waiting and anticipation is the worst. I had my port put in last Monday, and while the surgeon told me I could have started chemo that same day, I can't imagine doing it. I developed a bad rash and adhesive sores that are just now healing. I will say, though, that having the chemo done through the port was great, much better than an IV if you are going with a long haul chemo.

    I am somewhat optimistic that today is going ok so far. I may crash when I go home, but that's ok.

  • JoelleKC
    JoelleKC Member Posts: 24
    edited March 2013

    Hi liffeybloom- thanks for starting this group. I can't imagine doing this alone.



    I also completely relate to the overwhelming tidal wave of thoughts and emotions. I found my lump on my 40th birthday. I was, quite literally at a party one night and receiving a diagnosis the next day.



    I am 6 weeks post BMX and finally feeling stronger more like myself again.

  • alcb70
    alcb70 Member Posts: 166
    edited March 2013

    Liffeybloomer-Sorry about the tamoxifen...I forgot to remove it from my profile. My original bx showed I was a weak positive ER, so I was going to start Tamoxifen. After surgery, my MO had my tumor re- tested with better assay & it was found to be neg. So, that's why I'm doing adriamycin. Now all I have to kick this is chemo & herceptin. :(



    For those feeling down....you'll have so many up's & downs through this & some are worse through chemo bc of hormonal changes. We deserve days to pull the covers over our heads and ask why me....but most days I think we appreciate life more than most. Enjoy your good days, rest your bad days, love & appreciate always!

  • Lolalou
    Lolalou Member Posts: 30
    edited March 2013

    I'm meeting with my surgeon tomorrow where we are supposed to talk about getting the port. I only have 4 treatments and I am thinking that I don't want the port. Just having a hard time thinking about one more surgery...while easier than others I just don't know if I want it.



    I've had so much going on. I've been open with people about my surgery and treatment plan. Most 99% are supportive but I've had a few "friends" questioning why I'm doing what I'm doing. I'm glad to have this group that can relate to everything we're going through.

  • liffeybloomer
    liffeybloomer Member Posts: 72
    edited March 2013

    I am finding that I can go into work, but after about 4 hours, I am totally done. i come home (luckily I work only about 3 miles from home) and crash. I can take an afternoon nap and still have to fight to stay awake past 8 p.m. Last night I forced myself to wait until after 9 p.m. to go to sleep and then slept over 9 hours.

    Joelle, At 40 I wasn't even thinking about breast cancer. I am 57, so at least my kids are grown and I can just focus on myself. If I were younger, I think I'd be in a whole different place about this mess!

    alcb - no worries about the tamoxifen. I was curious because other than that we have reasonably similar diagnoses except that my lymph nodes were clear (pretty much - microscopic cancer cells in one).

    lolalou - go with what makes you comfortable. I am glad I have my port - even after the horrible rash and skin blisters - but I have to have more chemo than you will have. I have a friend who had 4 cycles of AC and she was fine with the IV in her arm. I have to say that I am conscious of the port and it does bother me now and then. Now let's talk about these "friends." Why in the world would they question you? Do they think you should have more or less treatment?? Seems to me that you and your oncologist are in the best positions to decide what treatment is right for you! Grrrrr - it's not nice to make Mama Bear angry! Smile

  • NatsFan
    NatsFan Member Posts: 3,745
    edited March 2013

    If you're on the fence about a port, you may want to do a search for discussions about it on BCO - I remember a discussion about that very topic.  If I remember right, there were some women who did just fine without a port and were pleased to have skipped another surgery.  Others wished they'd had one put in.  There were also some women who did just fine without a port through chemo, but it left their veins devastated.  Remember, even after chemo is done, you're in for many many blood tests in the coming years, so you may want to think about preserving your veins for future use.  It's especially important if you've had any nodes out - because of the risk of lymphedema, you can't allow any blood draws on the at-risk side.  That leaves you with one arm that can be used for all future blood draws.  Having a port through chemo saves those veins for the future after the port removed.

    If you have a port put in, draw a line where your bra strap is and ask the surgeon to place it away from there.  Also, if you've had nodes out, ask that the port be placed on the other side rather than the LE at-risk side. 

    Here's a link to a recent thread about ports, but I know there have been several of them over the years - just use the search function to find others if you're interested:  http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/69/topic/799435?page=1#post_3396447

  • dimples68
    dimples68 Member Posts: 46
    edited March 2013

    Just found this thread.  I start chemotherapy on March 14, 2013. Dose densitive chemo AC - 4 rounds.  Just looking for some suggestions and support.  Looking for wigs now. 

  • liffeybloomer
    liffeybloomer Member Posts: 72
    edited March 2013

    Hi dimples and welcome. I've added your name to the list on the original post. If I've forgotten anyone, let me know. I blame everything on chemo brain, so that's my excuse! So far, I notice extreme fatigue the most, and an annoying propensity to burp a lot!

  • cbear
    cbear Member Posts: 33
    edited March 2013

    Dimples86...I had my chemo of Ac every 3 weeks. I am on my 3rd treatment of it. Next one due March 15th. My first one you will probably feel a bit high if i may say so. Its because they give you medicine before the actual AC. You also may taste it for a while so take some lemon drops to suck on. Also the steroid treatment afterwards will keep you feeling tired but yet cant stop and concentrate very well. That lasts about 3 days as they told me to do them that length of time. I had to stop at 2 days and see if i felt sick because i didnt like the feeling. As a matter of fact this 3rd treatment i took them only the same night and was fine. But everyone is different. Have something for constipation because i had that and it got bad. So get prepared with that and you should have no problems. And pee constantly for a few days to get it thru your bladder. Everyone was about the same for me. I can still eat even though i noticed some things i just dont want now. Slowed down a bit but i drink my boosts. Noticing skin got really dry so i use Aloe lotion. Use Biotine rinse to keep any mouth sores at bay. I have had none and used it. Thanks to the ladies on here that worked for sure. This 3rd one a bit more tired and sleeping is not as good and a bit more dizzy at times. But its dooable and you can do it no problem. Take daily walks if possible in your area and keep positive attitude even though it may be hard at times. Especially when your hair goes. But i had my cry and i was better. Hair doesnt define me. It will come back. Hugs)))) More ladies on here will give you even more tips so write them down and it will help.

  • cbear
    cbear Member Posts: 33
    edited March 2013

    Liffeybloomer...Yes i got tired to but it does get better. Even though they hit you again. I was told how your first treatment goes is usually how the others will go. Its been true so far except my appetite has changed a bit on number 3 and a bit more tired then usual. But here in Tn not much sun last week. :)  And i didnt burp alot but there was alot of things i couldnt eat anymore because i still tasted it all night. But now my favorites are tuna fish and boosts and of course for some reason i crave fajitas. Dont know why but i could eat them all day if possible. Onc thinks i am crazy but i told him anyway. Keep up on any constipation because it may hit and hit hard if not prepared. They can send in a prescription also for that if needed. Hugs and thanks for starting this thread and prayers to all. And yes chemo brain. Its for real for sure. 

  • dimples68
    dimples68 Member Posts: 46
    edited March 2013

    Thanks Liffeybloomer!  We will all get through this.  I feel for those with a longer treatment. I should be done in April depending on how I do with the first round of AC.  I was shocked that my Oncotype was 31 so I'm doing everything I can to make this cancer stay away!!!! I am in Upper Marlboro, MD by the way.

  • dimples68
    dimples68 Member Posts: 46
    edited March 2013

    Thanks for your input cbear!!

    Just wondering... could you drive home yourself from chemo or did someone need to drive you. I'm only 45 and very healthy so all of this is a bummer. 

    What did you use for constipation? I was constipated a lot from my mastectomy and the meds and was taking dulcolax and prune juice but that has barely been working...works when it wants to.

    I have been insistent about not taking steroids. My onc keeps telling me that since it's just for a short time I won't wind up with a bloated head or face and I don't believe it.  What good are the steroids?? What are they supposed to do?

  • JoelleKC
    JoelleKC Member Posts: 24
    edited March 2013

    Going to look for a wig tomorrow - ugh! So far I only have a few scarves and no idea how they make them look so cute in the catalogs. I think I failed scarves 101 today...

    I did pick up a greeen wig at target, figured I could tell the kids that the leprechaun stole my wig on St. Patty's Day.

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