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  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited February 2013

    Macy I had diarrhea every time I had chemo - it always  started around 4 days after the treatment and lasted a few days...Comes on quick, no warning but when you gotta go you gotta go !! Surprised Hope you feel better

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited February 2013

    macyhen I had pretty loose bowels all the way through Taxol and now 3 weeks post chemo am just starting to have almost normal BM's. Diarrhea started with A/C and then continued so a long time!

  • Megan2
    Megan2 Member Posts: 70
    edited February 2013

    Anyone who had axillary dissection developed cords of scar tissue running armpit to wrist? I have several of these and they are sometimes tight, sometimes loose, and while they bother me, they are not limiting my mobility. Because of the full mobility, my surgeon thought they would go away but is now suggesting a physiotherapist - I am curious if anyone else has experienced this and if the physio successfully dealt with the cords.

    How are all you "just finished gals" celebrating life after chemo? Did anyone do anything special, or are all too tired?

  • Eleni
    Eleni Member Posts: 130
    edited February 2013

    Thank you for being here and listening. I fell miserable and cry. Probably I need to sleep. And cry.

    I'll get over it but for now, I only want to cry. The stupid thing is that my onc, as soon as she sees me crying she's asking if I need xanax. I told her no.

  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited February 2013

    Ok Eleni, now that you've had your cry - get up, brush yourself off and  make yourself laugh!! Laugh about anything, anything at all, sing if you want, pray, dance - you will feel soooo much better...Kiss just be happy!!!

  • macyhen111
    macyhen111 Member Posts: 754
    edited February 2013

    Thanks 5luvbugs and marianelizabeth. The first time I had the diarrhea my onc told me it was because I ate some oranges. So now I don't eat any raw fruits or veggies, but still have the runs. I really miss eating them. This cancer stuff has me so confused. I read everything I can about bc, but I usually am more confused because one will say one thing and then another will say the complete opposite. That's why I am on this site because I like to get the opinions of women who are going through the same things. I used to be really depressed and I had bad anxiety after my stage 4 diagnosis. My PcP gave me Prozac and klonopin, which has helped me out a lot.

  • Megan2
    Megan2 Member Posts: 70
    edited February 2013

    I hear ya maychen - there is tons of information available, and it is often contradictory and at times is the opposite of what my doctors have told me. And if I don't trust them, I will drive myself crazy. I am glad you are feeling less anxious and depressed - it is such a tough experience and you need to be in top mental form to keep fighting. I wonder about the raw fruits and vegetables. I was told they are fine to eat if washed properly, but I avoided them because i wanted to be on the safe side. Maybe you can find out if it is ok to eat some towards the end of each chemo cycle when your white blood cell counts are better.

    Eleni, maybe you just need to cry. I have found this so difficult, and can't even imagine what it would feel like if the cancer came back and I was in your shoes and was finishing up my second round of doing chemo. Anyone being treated for breast cancer hopes like hell the first time is enough.  We lose our faith in our health when we are diagnosed. And then we have to fight to find the  faith that it worked and we will be ok. We are all terrified of a recurrence. I can only imagine that when the cancer comes back and you have to undergo treatment a second time, when that fragile faith that the treatment "works" has been dashed, moving forward again is in a whole new world. If you need to cry, cry. Bottling it all up sure won't do any good, and once it is all out, follow 5luvbugs instructions! We all should do what 5luvbugs says at least once a day.

    I am tired of my bald head. Who else is peering at their scalp daily looking for any sign of something going on? I want to see some action up there!!! 5luvbugs, how's that hair of yours growing in? Have you gone from baby to toddler yet?

  • txjunebug
    txjunebug Member Posts: 212
    edited February 2013

    Eleni - cry and then wipe those eyes and find something to do that you enjoy.  After that kick cancer's butt!

    I eat fresh fruit and veggies but only when I wash them so I know it's safe.  I can't imagine not having a salad or fruit.

    Tomorrow is my last chemo!!  Whoohoo!!!  I meet the plastic surgeon on the 7th and then it's on to the mastectomies.  While I don't have to have radiation I will due to the BRAC 1 status be having 3 more surgeries this year. 

    Megan - I too am looking at my hair and can not wait for the day that I no longer need a wig, scarf or hat.  Planning a party after my hair grows back and I think I'm going to burn the wig out in the backyard!!!  My way of saying that this cancer didn't beat me.  I beat it!!

  • Eleni
    Eleni Member Posts: 130
    edited February 2013

    I just read that Anastacia has again BC, 10 years after the first time. I'm so sorry. Why the hell is this thing happening?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2013

    Eleni~It took me a moment to realize who you're talking about. I hate hearing that. I remember when she was diagnosed before. I had no idea it had been 10 years.



    I had lunch with my sister at the Spaghetti Warehouse last week. One of my best friends, Brad is the kitchen manager there. He sat with us while we ate. At one point a young woman walked by, and Brad told me, she just returned to work the week before after going through treatment for BC. He said, she's having a really hard time. That every ache, pain, twinge, causes her to think the cancer is back. I felt so bad for her. She looked to be in her 30's.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • Zorina
    Zorina Member Posts: 103
    edited March 2013

    Megan2  -  I had a lot of cording after axillary node removal.  I had great luck with a physical therapist who had been trained for cancer therapies.   He used heavy massage to break up the hardened tendrils remaining after the nodes were removed.  I still have some problems, and they gave me techniques for working these out, but I went from not being able to raise my arm above my shoulder to being able to raise it straight up with minimal discomfort.  So,  definitely seek assistance with your cording!

  • Sneakychiquita
    Sneakychiquita Member Posts: 292
    edited March 2013

    Megan and txjunebug - I totally check out my scalp every day for signs of hair growth... and I still have 2 more cycles of Taxol to go!  Except for that on my leg, I think all of my hair follicles are on strike.  And after all this time, my eyelashes and a portion of 1 eyebrow have decided to abandon ship.  I'm pretty sure my wig ain't fooling anyone anymore.  

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2013

    Sneaky~I was so hopeful that hair would start to really come back during taxol. I started my first of 12 today. Maybe, because Im getting a lower dose, I'll be one of he lucky ones. Who knows?



    Oh mercy! I pray I don't end up losing one eyebrow and keeping one. Wouldn't that be a sight? I've handled losing a boob, my hair, my tastebuds, energy, and and freedom to wash dishes without stinking rubber gloves. Is it really too much to ask, to at least keep an equal part of both eyebrows???



    Blessings

    Paula

  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited March 2013
    1. Hair - be patient - my last chemo cytoxan & Taxol was on Jan 15 - the hair on my head started to grow by Valentine' s Day - I now have about 1/4" so be patient.  Everything else is back to normal but I like some of you girls, have now lost 1/2 an eyebrow and my eyelashes are so thin - no hair on my legs or underarms and thats a good thing because I am 1/2 way through radiation and my armpit is red and sore....So hairs to ya girls...
  • keetmom
    keetmom Member Posts: 432
    edited March 2013

    Just checking in...hair wise I can feel hair on my head it feels like legs after not shaving for a week...from afar I still look quite bald but looking close I can see the stubble....Hoping it really starts to pop soon...I am taking biotine.. Still have no hair anywhere else though...haven't lost my lashes or my brows totally yet they have thinned some...
    I am feeling more normal every day...I am about 5 weeks PFC....we have a family vacation planned the end of March and then I will get my silocones and I have to have my overies removed...and then we truly can move on with life!!!

  • Sickofpink
    Sickofpink Member Posts: 190
    edited March 2013

    Hi Ladies! Been thinking of you. Reading your posts, but nothing good to add.

    The last round of TCH really kicked my butt and it's still got me whacked both mentally and physically, with leg pain and neuropathy and foggy brain and some of the early nausea returning as well. After my onc said congratulations at finishing, now its just herceptin infusions for 8 months and 7 weeks of rads... I told him I was worried about the cumulative effects of the Taxotere and Carboplatin he had mentioned and he actually paused before turning around to say, "You are exactly right: this next month will be the hardest."  No dancing nurses or purple hearts, but at least fair warning.

    Txjunebugs, hope you are doing okay after your last round!

    5LUVBUGS, I was still bleeding 2 weeks post Valentines day, so onc sent me to new gyno..turns out it wasn't the Fuller Brush man, but my own hard, purple, lifting off nails - I cut myself inside taking out the Today Sponge. And chemo keeps us from healing, have you noticed? Anyway, I am in menopause, these hot flashes are not all steroid caused, so no more of that.

    Gyno also said there is a new genetic test required as of 1/1/13 - we all missed it - called the BART - more detailed than the Bracha. But not covered by insurance. As if we need more bad news.

    Eleni I hope you are feeling better.

    And KEETMOM, a vacation sounds perfect. And I hope the silicones take the sting out of the ovary surgery.  I already have implants, but radiologist says they will likely have to be replaced after teh effect of rads.

    MEGAN2 how much biotin do you take? I am so over trying to look cute, with makeup or hair or clothes, not in the mood for fashion mags or shopping..seems hopeless so why bother? I'm with you SNEAKY and MACYHEN and MARIANNE --It's about the hair. I still can't have salad or fruit or sushi (as if I could taste it) but in a month when the TC stars clearing, want to go full speed with biotin if you think that helps.  My eyes are watering again so I keep doing the needle in the tear duct thing - and eye doc said Latisse is great, but only for lashes we already have. Oh well.

    Novel went to press so had to be working to check final edits, omg, can only hope I didn't mess it up. I thought this would be an ideal activity, promoting the biggest book of my life from bed... but I'm so afraid it will just be a missed opportunity and bad timing and I'll never have a creative thought in my head again..Waiting to hear if Target will pick it, then at least you can all point out where the chemo brain kicked in...

    Took over a week to be able to walk the neighborhood and yesterday I did walk near the beach.. today the weather is gorgeous but I can barely move, so am trying to stay in bed, of course I'll try to work, always end up just wasting time not resting not working well. ugh

    The sky is blue, but have to avoid sun, so will imagine months to come, when we are all better.

    xo

  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited March 2013

    KEETMOM a vacation sounds great!!  Wouldn't it be nice if we "the girls" could all meet up somewhere and share our stories... Oh well, nice thought.  I want to go somewhere when I'm finished rads at the end of March but don't know if that will happen.

    Sickofpink - what the heck, are your nails still up there????  Anyway, I got notice from Amazon that my book (your book)  will be delayed until mid May - I was wondering if that was because the author had chemo brain fog when she did her final edit - so, did you?????

    Hope everyone has a good weekend....

  • Eleni
    Eleni Member Posts: 130
    edited March 2013

    Sickofpink, thankd for mentioning BART. I'll check it and ask my doc. I don't have BRCA1 but they're checking my tumor, I'll know more in six months.

  • Loafer
    Loafer Member Posts: 121
    edited March 2013

    Hi ladies -



    Cheering all you great gals to the chemo finish line! I know it's tough and there seems to be no end in sight. The SEs and fatigue can be debilitating! I'm here to tell you there is hope - I finished Rads on Thursday - and feel GREAT!



    About 6 weeks after PFC, the fatigue finally lifted - like a dark cloud - and I feel like my old self again - energetic and full of life!



    Hang in there, the sun will shine again!



    Hugs to all of you!



    Ginny

  • maryah930
    maryah930 Member Posts: 322
    edited March 2013

    Hi all ~ Agree with Ginny and cheering you on.  You will make it!

    Last chemo was 25 Jan 2013 and last week I realized while I was working that I didn't have to think as hard to ensure I was capturing everything and I didn't have to review records two or three times to put the pieces together! Hair is still gone and the ultimate was losing my eyebrows about 10 days ago.  I mean, REALLY??? 

    One funny thing that happened 3 weeks after my last chemo.  I was supposed to meet a colleague in Houston to do a site visit in Tomball, TX.  I had a great flight, got off the plane, got my luggage and waited for her to tell me where she was.  She called and said she had the car. I told her I was at E16. For over 30 minutes I waited for her and we were on the phone while I gave her directions to E16 again and again.  Getting frustrated (I mean, really!  How many bald women wearing a bright pink sweatshirt are there at the airport?) I gave the phone to the airport police so he could give my ditsy friend directions.  He was getting frustrated as well.  Finally, I heard him ask her what airport she was at. I had flown in to Dallas, not Houston!  This was not the first time I was at the site (had been there 5 times before) and although I thought the airport looked different, just thought I flew into a different terminal. When I booked the ticket, I thought the airport code looked weird and blamed it on my chemo brain.  Now, I have all previous trips at hand and follow the old itineraries before I book the ticket.

  • Eleni
    Eleni Member Posts: 130
    edited March 2013

    Maryah, that's HILARIUS!!! I know you were not laughing at the time, but fly to the wrong airport? C'mon :-)

    I know about the eyebrows falling as last when you least expect it. It happened the previous time. This time I'm prepared, I get lower doses of chemo and have my eyebrow powder to define them a little bit. Cause having a beautiful wig and a naked face which really looks like butt is not working.

    I wish I was brave enough to go bald like you.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2013

    Maryah~My 15 year old son & I flew to Baltimore Maryland with my sister, Jan, in 2003. Jan was in a really testy mood. She grumped about everything. She told us to sit in a certain area to wait to board.



    We were afraid to say anything for fear of getting chewed out. Finally, I had to tell her, " I think we're at the wrong gate, and our plane has left without us."



    She was so apologetic, and we had a good laugh. She was more more pleasant while we waited 5 more hours for the next plane.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • Sickofpink
    Sickofpink Member Posts: 190
    edited March 2013

    Oh MaryahI! Thanks for the laugh! I hope you were able to laugh as well.

    5 luvbugs, i saw that Amazon delayed release, but Im doing all book events in LA the first week of May, so it better be out! I'll let you know what's up.



    I do mapping for Rads tomorrow and figured i need to start my 7 weeks next week to be done before all that even though i wil only be 2.5 weeks post chemo.

    Hmmmm



    Fingers too numb to type, nails lifting. Where can i get cute gloves?

  • txjunebug
    txjunebug Member Posts: 212
    edited March 2013

    Maryah - Thanks for the laugh but Oh my the frustration!! 

    Thanks to everyone cheering all of us to the finish line.  I had my last chemo on the 28th.  6 rounds of TC and this final one is kicking my butt like the third one.  Go figure. 

    Hope everyone is having a good day!!

  • Sickofpink
    Sickofpink Member Posts: 190
    edited March 2013

    Had a thirty minute window this morning when I actually felt like my old self. Nails black and fingers numb, but brain was clicking, raring to go. By the time I got up and looked in the mirror and saw my eyelashes were gone, the window was sliding shut.

    Changed avatar because I'm sick of being Sick of Pink! I want this to be a blip in the screen, to be back to normal. New normal, wtvr. 

    Then I wondered if I brought this on by tempting fate with a character in What a Mother Knows who has breast cancer. She's very minor and only actually appears on a few pages towards the end, but her appearance causes a huge revelation. I put her in initially, based on experience with my mom's lymphoma a few years back, but  ths gal had lost her beautiful hair and...if she wasnt there, would this have happened? 

    Does anyone believe destiny (beyond genetics) or just random coincidence?

  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited March 2013

    Maryah - now that was one heck of an adventure, please tell us how the story ends...I need the final chapter!!!  You poor girl....

    Sickofpink -if  changing your avatar makes you feel "normal" then good for you - it's a nice picture too, we better all follow suit. I should change mine because I had my daughter cut off the rest of my hair and I no longer look like that baby...now I definitely  Look Like My Father!!!!! Now I must set you straight, changing the character in your book didn't change destiny....Relax, most of us lost our hair  - it's gonna grow back!!!! Today someone who has known me for many years told me I looked wonderful - who, me, bald me in a turban at the radiation center!!  I said thanks, I feel great!!!!  What's up with the nails this week?

    Junebug welcome the the "finished" line - you will start feeling darn good in about another week - chin up!!

    Eleni tell us more about that face!! 

    Paula, how are things with you?

    Tomorrow the doc is starting me on my Rads boosts to give my sore, raw armpit a break - 8 days boost the finish up with the regular dose.  OK girls, need to get kids off the school bus,,,,

  • volley44
    volley44 Member Posts: 11
    edited March 2013

    Hello ladies...I don't post often but I love reading your posts. This afternoon will be my 7th round of Taxol and losing my eyeborws and eye lashes now.

    Sickofpink, I worked with someone that had trouble typing because of nerve injury and he used the "Dragon" brand voice recognition software. Seem to work really well for him. There are several of these out on the market now. Pehaps this could be an option for you :)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2013

    5LuvBugs~I started 12 weekly Taxol last Friday. So far, it's been pretty easy. I'm tired on day 5, but still have my tastebuds. Feet & legs are a bit swollen, but other than that and being tired, this is so much easier than AC.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • txjunebug
    txjunebug Member Posts: 212
    edited March 2013

    Sickofpink -- Nice picture!

  • Sickofpink
    Sickofpink Member Posts: 190
    edited March 2013

    Thanks for the tip, Volley - had the needles in tear ducts today can't frigging see but so want to be efficient, very annoying. Wasting time at desk. And we can exchange tips about fake eyelashes.

    Thanks for the compliment, txjunebugs.

    And 5luvbugs, my nails are purple until white/yellow where they are lifting up. Can't get credit card out of wallet, maybe that's a good thing. Still bleeding from everywhere, too. And I look like my dad, too! But I love your pic. I am fine to be bald around home and wear scarves out, it's just bad enough looking in mirror to put picture out there. Lazy, but wimpy, too. You are far beyond that. Oh, turns out 5/7 is release date, something about tracking lists for sales. (Presale helps the inital print run and at 50 cents per book or whatever I need to sell a lot to pay these medical bills, sigh.) How are we all managing?!

    Eleni, good luck with Bart info.

    Soteria, every week sounds rough. Hope it keeps going smoothly.

    xo

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