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purple32
purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
edited June 2014 in Lymphedema

Hi Ladies,

I feel I am in a  quandry lately.

I have been  feeling very guilty about letting my BS intimidate me ( because I think it will impact the next person) and I have had three large places tell me they had  " no interest in LE", which is making me upset.

Meanwhile, one of my PT s ( the 2nd one I tried who never touched me) had told me to come back around March.  She said I would have to wear a sleeve and glove for three months and then wean off.  Thank God I knew better ( though I'd be lying if I didnt say I had a tiny glimmer of hope ) and IMO  she delayed my tx, by never doing hands on.


In some ways, I feel like I should let that go and move on.  I should be an am grateful for my new LEist as well as all the info and support I have found here.


OTOH, I feel like I owe it to the many women who will come after me, to try to inform this PT of the harm she is doing. I have no intetnion of making and being charged for an appt.  I doubt she would listen to me over the phone.

Should I snail mail SUSO paperwork to her ...or should I just  let it all go and not worry about the dozens of women who may end up in her hands?

I feel like a darn crusader and it  isn;t a good feeling at all, yet I have a hard time living with the feeling that maybe someone else could have told a BS or a PT something that might have  cued me in to risk prevention.  Dont I have  a responsibilty to do more ?  Maybe this is what I should be doing for LE awareness  "day ".

I am really feeling conflicted.

What to do ?

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  • cinnamonsmiles
    cinnamonsmiles Member Posts: 779
    edited March 2013

    If it were me, I would contact her boss, the head of the department. In my trials and tribulations with bad medical professionals I find they listen better when they are in hot water with their boss. Maybe you could speak with her boss face to face and present your information and things you print off the internet. Have a bullet poiint written out with the points that you want to make. Kira, helped me learn that with the appendix fiasco.

    I went and argued with the Head of teh Surgery Departmetn and Head of Anesthesiology and believe me, they were sarcastic and mean while spewing inaccuracies with me. I wish we had been face to face. It is harder for them to keep spewing inaccurate statements about LE when you have literature in their face.

    Good luck. I really didn't want to get into all that stuff that happened at the appendix mess,I didn't think I had the strength. But the nurse told me, if not for me, then do it for the next person.

    I also think it helps with closure.

    Bring us with you, keep us in the back of your mind. That therapist could really cause someone severe harm. Go Purple, GO!!!!

  • hugz4u
    hugz4u Member Posts: 2,781
    edited March 2013

    Purple, I think if you can present facts to the boss in a calm, collected manner you may give them something to think about for the next person that visits the PT. If it bothers you then you should do something about it.

    One specialist doc once told me that my hearing problem was non existent. I did major research and diagnosed myself with a uncommon disorder.I knew that it wasn't "just in my head diagnosis " which he said. For about 5 years after, I wished I would have went back to that doc, with my research I got from the university hospital that studied the disorder. I often wondered how many people cried leaving this pompous idiot's office like I did.

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited March 2013

    I'm still not sure.  I feel like going to the Dept Head would just be me trying to get the girl in some sort of trouble.  I really want to make it clear- that is not my goal. Not at all.

    She is a 'regular' PT. I later discovered there was a LANA cert PT there. I am thinking perhaps  the Lana girl showed my PT <which of course is not enough>the MLD 'circles'.   IF that is the case, it must in fact be sanctioned by the dept. head, no?

    I'm not angry about her at all ( though I do have anger about this but it is MGH pre and post LX).  I honestly think she was /is just totally ignorant.  I  can do his  very calmly and w/out anger when it comes to her, but ... I dunno'.  My husband keeps telling me that I should stop ' trying to save the world' and focus on myself.  I am quite self-focused  ... TOO self focused.  Or at least, too " LE focused", but ...

    See how my thoughts are on this ?

    Muddied.

  • cinnamonsmiles
    cinnamonsmiles Member Posts: 779
    edited March 2013

    You can still present the facts to the head of the department without getting the woman in trouble. Explain that you are not out to get her, that perhaps the entire department needs more training on LE.

    When I had my total hysterectomy, ovaries, and tubes removed in  November 2011, the care for the LE/PMPS patient on the unit was terrible. Information was not passed down from shift to shift of nurses and nursing assistants. I was constantly having to tell them no bp's on either arm.

    I talked it over with the head of the nursing staff on the surgical unit I was in. I didn't want to get anyone in trouble, I just wanted to let them know that there was a kink in services.

    This last time, the nursing staff on the floor I was on was so much incredibly better at mangaing my cares, specifically no bp's in the arms. I only had to tell one staff member this time, compared to a handful last time.

    I think it is all about our demeanor, how we present the information, and make it clear  you do NOT want to get her in trouble. If she is not educated enough on LE therapies, she either needs to get more education OR not do LE therapy. 

    If there was a LANA certified therapist there, I wonder why you weren't on her caseload. 

    If the LANA certified therapist is going to be training others, then she should be more thorough. 

    Sounds like the department needs better guidelines, treatment rules, and education regarding LE.

    If you don't seem like  you are complaining in your tone and words, unless the head of the department is a jerk, they may appreciate the information.

    Giving out inaccurate information and treatment for LE (and any illness or injury for that matter), should be nipped sooner than later. Eventually, someone is going to sustain a more severe injury or illness due to a lack of training and education.

    If the department head is wise, he/she would rather the correct the problem before someone reports bad treatment results from uneducated therapists than face the state medical review board.

    I didn't want to confront the surgeon, three heads of departments at the hospital that botched my stay for appendicitis, but I did it. I didn't think I had the strength. But I plowed through because of the people on these boards and for the person who didn't have the guts to stand up and say, your information about LE was wrong and state my case. Like I said on here before somewhere....the head of the surgery and head of anesthesia at the hospital were just nasty, vindictive people who spewwed false information about LE that I could correct with facts I learned from here and the websites everyone keeps posting. Do I think that those two women have changed their minds? NO. I think they just wanted to intimidate me and be the big B word to me. Their manner of speaking was not learn from the mistakes that happened to me, but to avoid them and avoid any responsibility in the matter.

    The head of surgery for the clinic the surgeon works for and the Quality Control Improvment Coordinator, and the Nurse Manager of the floor I was on were interested in hearing what I had to say so that what happened to me wouldn't happen again and were very apologetic.

    I certainly support you in what ever you decide, Purple. You were increcilbly supportive to me a couple weeks ago or so. Maybe try not to think of it as saving the world. Maybe to try to think of it being a better place so LE patients get better treatment.

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited March 2013

    Wow!

    You said a mouthful, cinnamon, and you've made some excellent points. I guess I am going to have to gather my thoughts and put them pen to paper and try to set up some sort of  a meeting or appt.  I know I owe it to the next person.  That's the part that is tough to let go of. Deep down, I know I shouldn't ignore this.

    Thanks very much for your help - I  really appreciate it.

  • cinnamonsmiles
    cinnamonsmiles Member Posts: 779
    edited March 2013

    Kira really helped me when she made a numbered list of what the problems were. It stopped my head from swimming and be more organized (something I am not good at anymore).

    I think the list helps center my mind, keep it on focus.

    What ever you do, Purple, I will be there for  you. Maybe not physically, but bring me with you in the psychological sense.

    I am sure you will do fine.

    You are a very compassionate person. A great quality to have!!

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited March 2013

    Thanks, Cinnamon.  I really appreciate your sentiment !

  • cinnamonsmiles
    cinnamonsmiles Member Posts: 779
    edited March 2013

    Hi Purple, just checking in to see how you are doing with this and what you decided and to let you know I am thinking about you!!! Cool

  • purple32
    purple32 Member Posts: 3,188
    edited March 2013

    THX for the follow up, cinnamon!


    I asked yet another bc.org member ( by PM) who  " knows"  Baystate.  She  said they would never change ( I believe that ) and that I was probably just wasting my energy.  ( wasted engergy = frustration)

    As much as I WISH things would change,  I believe this member is probably correct, and I am going to turn away from my natural inclination to fight this in the interest of  sparing myself the ADD'L frustration.  "Pick your battles' kind of thing , I guess.

    In the meantime, I would like to thank you for your support- I do appreciate it !

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