How do I handle all this hostility from my mother ?
I'm 45 recently had lumpectomy and was dx with ADH. Seeing oncologist tomorrow help figure out a treatment plan. Since I'm so fibrocystic and dense and well endowed mammos and u/s can't get a good look. Only had surgery due to BND opt of my L breast night before mammo. Was that great timing or what? Never would have known because that breast has always been bothersome lately more pain and shoulder arm pain. Since I was around 21 and had my 1st child who tried to make an early debut in June but wasn't due till September anyhow I was put on bed rest and my mother who was 35 when I was born told me that when she was pregnant with me she started preterm labor and spotting at around 5 months and her dr gave her "female hormone" shots regularly to prevent her from miscarrying me . She said at the time they believed the fetus or placenta wasn't getting enough female hormones and that's what they did back then. She also told me she lost a baby at 6 months while sitting in the dr waiting room cramping bleeding she stood up and spontaneously aborted a little boy . Now being 21 and never knowing any of this especially that 2 yrs before me she suffered that trauma of losing a baby I mean blew my mind . Never have we spoken about it again I of course had no desire to upset her . As I got older and started having more babies and reading more about women's health etc I learned about DES. I asked her about 15 yrs ago if that was what she was referring to and she said she wasn't sure what it was called and they gave her pills to take as needed if she couldn't get in for a shot . Fast forward to present day and shell be 80 soon and something's she doesn't remember and something's I ask her about she gets extremely angry , the biggest trigger is if I dare ask her about her pregnancy with me and gently dance around the subject and she tells me I'm crazy she never ever took anything she didn't have any problems with her pregnancy any of them etc I mean she gets so nasty its kind of scary so I cant discuss it with her . i asked my cousin who was close to my mom and about 10 yrs younger and she remembers clearly and he even knows for a fact that they both took DES. So could it just be my mother feels guilty because I've had alot of health problems my entire life especially gynecological and 1 miscarriage and 3 rough but Thank Giod healthy children. My father passed away from stomach liver and pancreatic cancer when I was only 24 so he isn't around to ask . My PCP after doing some research has just put it in my health records as being exposed . And she's like I said getting older my kids are almost all grown and she's very I don't know how to describe her attitude towards me she's just very different and I'm trying not to give her too many details cause I don't want to upset her further. It's like she's worried but annoyed with me passive aggressive almost and what can I do except be pleasant and pretend I'm not a little shook up by this whole thing. Which I can do its not a big deal for me I guess I'm worried too she's getting dementia and that's even more upsetting to me. Any advice or input would help me cope
Thanks so much </p>
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ElleRusin69 - I understand how frustrated and worried you must be.
(I, too, had very dense and fibrocystic breasts. In fact, mammos did not reveal my BC - I had spontaneous bleeding and ended up having seven different diagnostic procedures.)
But about your mom....
If she is 80 and reacting this way, I would imagine that it is probably what you said - a mixture of fear and guilt.
My mom passed in 2009, at the age of 88. She had a difficult time when she was pregnant with me, but I never had a reason to ask about DES. She did have breast cancer, diagnosed at the same age I was: 60.
All I know is that while my first thought when I got the call telling me I had BC was to call my mom, I really was glad she passed before my diagnosis. She would have taken the news really hard, and blamed herself.
Does your mom have any other health problems? It is very possible that maybe she does have the beginning stages of dementia.
Regardless of that, I think it's probably pretty useless to think that she will be of any help in giving you any more information than you already have.
If your doctor has noted that you were exposed to DES, then I'm sure that will be taken into consideration in your treatment plan.
Sometimes the answers we hoped to get are just gone with those who were able to give them to us. I wish I could have had more information about the exact type of cancer my mom had, but in those days, they didn't have the technology they do now, so probably there WAS no information that would be useful to me now.
How do you handle the hostility from your mom? Well, if she really is beginning to experience dementia, find out what triggers her anger, and stay away from it. I know that's easier said than done....but at this point, what do you want from HER?
What is it that you need?
Do you want her to take full responsibility for your health problems because many years ago, she did what her doctor told her to do, and it was a bad decision? That's what women did in her time. The doctor was God, and you listened to him.
Do you want her to apologize to you? She may not be capable of that... mentally, or emotionally.
Do you want her love and support as you go through your treatment? Perhaps you can explain how much that would mean to you, in a way that shows no blame.
I'm so sorry about your dad's early passing, and your miscarriage, and the fact that your mom's health may be deteriorating.
If her behavior is truly different - if she is, as you say, scary mad, then maybe it's time for a full physical examination, and you can communicate your fears to her doctor. The doc will know how to conduct a physical to determine any signs of dementia.
If it's NOT dementia, then you have to be able to accept the fact that your mom is not going to be the support you want her to be, and let it go. Find another support system - your husband, your kids, your other family and friends, and just take your relationship with your mom as it comes.
Set boundaries. Don't set her up, don't start an interrogation, just start a conversation that has nothing to do with health. If she becomes angry or hostile, it's perfectly o.k. to say that you're sorry, but you can't be around her when she is that angry, and you'll talk to her another time.
Dealing with older parents is tough. There is another thread here on BCO - I think it's called "Aging Parents Anonymous"
Wishing you the best...
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Thank you so much Blessings
And oh no I would never ever blame or put any responsibility for any of my health issues on her. I'm thankful and grateful I had a loving home my parents were much older than my friends but they really were the very best my friends always wanted to never leave. I see it all the time with people her age not questioning the doctor ever it was a different time and drs were really as revered as infallible
No I don't need or want anything from her and ill always be there for her no matter how she might act towards me I think its a mixture of dementia fear maybe trauma too. I cry everytime I think about her this tiny proper modest women sitting waiting at the dr office in so much pain and then the worse happens I can't even imagine how she managed to go on. Course she had 3 older kids at home to take care of
But maybe my sister can arrange for us to take her in for a physical her sisters are all still alive close to 95 and their dementia started around the age she is now
But I thank you for your advice and I am so sorry I had to meet you under these circumstances and I wish you the very best of luck and all of God's graces.</p>
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Oh and I just don't want her to worry about me I know easier said than done ill always be her baby. My kids and I just have accepted how she is and see her frequently and avoid certain subjects. I know she loves me but I hope I stay healthy not for me but my family it really would break them apart I'm the glue so to speak lol but thank you again and yes the more I think about it the more it seems a medical eval of her functioning wouldn't hurt and could help me understand how to communicate with her better . (((Hugs))) thanks again !!!!
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