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  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited February 2013

    CCJJ,i order the truffles from the lindt-lindor website,i think it is www.lindtusa.com!

    gotta say they won't help your weight loss,but we all deserve a treat now and then!! LOL

    mmm,might order some for Easter,surprise the kids and grandkids!!! xmas of 2011,i didn't order any because everyone were on diets! had some mighty disappointed kids and g-kids!! I felt bad,this past xmas i did,boy did i get some hugs and smiles!!!

  • ccjj
    ccjj Member Posts: 128
    edited February 2013
  • cooka
    cooka Member Posts: 278
    edited February 2013

    Hey CJRT, I was just thinking of you and stopping by to say hi.  How is everything going with the wheelchair and all that stuff? Hope you are doing ok.

  • CJRT
    CJRT Member Posts: 524
    edited February 2013

    Ccjj- hip lesion is on the same side as BC. Have another ortho appt tomorrow and I should have more info then about the surgery/ radiation plans. I have a radiation sim tentatively scheduled for Tuesday, assuming the pathology is in to the ortho on Monday. I have seem some hopeful stories on the Mets threads. Thank you.



    Cooka - thank you much for thinking of me. I am using the wheelchair for far distances but the crutches mostly. It is frustrating needing help with the kids and with our move ( we have moved locally to a new house- which thankfully is one story unlike our old house); however i know that part is just a minor inconvenience. i have my bad moments but trying to live in the moment. I think I will feel better when the treatment plan is more concrete. Then I will better be able to plan for care for the kids too. I hope to know the first steps (radiation and surgery) by Tuesday/Wednesday. I have my records into a mets program that is more aggressive but I think after speaking with various people that I will be getting the same radiation staying local so I will probably travel after the surgery and radiation to a large research-based cancer program to discuss long term systemic treatments. Thanks for keeping me in your thoughts. <3</p>

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited February 2013

    CJRT, sounds like treatment is getting started pretty quick with the radiation,that's good! Hope your ortho appt goes well. I would think it's pretty frustrating moving during all this,moving during normal times is bad enough! LOL But it's good you are going to a one story,someone's looking out for you!!! I've been thinking about you all week seemed like this past wk was sooo long!! Glad it's over i bet you are,too. In my prayers and thoughts!

  • CJRT
    CJRT Member Posts: 524
    edited February 2013

    Thanks, Belle! Yes, if feels like forever!



    An update--Such a roller coaster but today was a more hopeful day. Still waiting on pathology to confirm that it is the same breast cancer. (Had it done at my site but ortho wants it confirmed by his pathologist since he is at a different cancer center) Hope to have that by tomorrow. But the orthopedist said that it is blastic, Which he was very excited about. Apparently breast cancer cells destroyed bone in 80% of the cases, both build and destroy in 10%, and build in 10%. My x-rays and scans show that it's building bone. This means that I most likely will not need surgery after radiation. But way more importantly he said it's a better prognosis! Obviously terrified of the mets and the future but feels so good to have some hope! Go to radiation sim tomorrow and should know more specifics then. Will keep you updated. Thank you again for all of the support and for keeping me in your prayers. Xo

  • cooka
    cooka Member Posts: 278
    edited February 2013

    That is great that you have gotten some relatively positive news today! It is always a relief to have your doctor look pleased with something...sounds like blastic is much less destructive. "Best prognosis" is just what we wanted to hear! :)  

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited February 2013

    YES!!! That's what we wanted to hear GOOD NEWS!! Wow, we are still learning,at least I am! Who knew breast cancer can build bones? Sure am happy to hear it,tho!

  • ccjj
    ccjj Member Posts: 128
    edited February 2013

    CJRT.....so happy to hear you received some good news. Amazing that it builds bone and you may not need another surgery. Hopefully that means no chemo as well.

    Can't believe your also going through a move. So stressful in itself as Belle mentioned.

    Hang in there girl.

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited February 2013

    CJRT, thinking of you,wondering how you are doing? Are you all moved in? Hope everyone else Is doing good!

  • Kayrem
    Kayrem Member Posts: 164
    edited February 2013

    CJRT - I have just come back to the board to see how everyone is doing and I am so sorry to hear about your troubles. I am really optimistic for you being that it is the "better" cancer (talk about an oxymoron!). Please know that I am thinking about you and praying that everything will be resolved and you can move forward beyond all this crap!



    I am in a bit of a flux myself. In early Jan my genetic testing (15 months AFTER the blood draw!) came back positive for BRCA1 so in 2 weeks I will be having a PBMX and at the end of April a complete hysterectomy. As far as I know I do not have cancer but I pretty much wonder every day what they will find after they take all the stuff out. But I ask myself every day "how do you feel?" and I feel pretty good. Sometimes today is all that we can be sure of and I have to try so hard to focus on not letting my fear of tomorrow rob me of my good day today.



    CJRT I am certain you will get through this. Take care my thoughts are with you.



    Karen

  • CJRT
    CJRT Member Posts: 524
    edited February 2013

    Cooka, ccjj, and belle- thank you so much for your ongoing support. It means so much to me.



    Karen- thank you for your kind words. I am sorry that you have been thrown a curveball and think that you are doing a wonderful thing being so proactive. I hope that your surgeries go well and that your recoveries seem to fly by easily.



    Sorry I have not updated you all sooner. This week has honestly been a blur, luckily of forward movement. The pathology double-check came out identical to the original BC, which meant that everything could proceed. I had the radiation sim and my first two (of 14) radiation treatments. I must say that they have been the easiest part if this entire journey. The RO is wonderful and popped in both days to see if I had questions. I will see the ortho at the end of RADS and he feels that I shouldn't need surgery because of the blastic nature of the lesion. I spoke with my MO at length on the phone about other aspects of treatment. Tomorrow before RADS I will get the Zoladex shot to suppress my ovaries so that I can switch from Tamoxifen to an AI after RADS. I probably will get my ovaries out after things calm down. i am actually quite nervous for the side effects of the shot, which I know is silly given all the SEs of the other stuff I have had. I also think many of them are probably similar to regular menopause, but it is frightening to read a list of them. I will be meeting with my GS Thursday for pre op before the port placement. Not sure when that will be. Next week I will be meeting with my MO and having Herceptin the following day. Despite the chaos and temporarily pausing the unpacking, I am enjoying the new home and time with my family. I am feeling much stronger now that I feel like I have a course of action. I am trying to live in the positive moments. Thank you all again. Hugs...

  • cooka
    cooka Member Posts: 278
    edited February 2013

    CJRT,

    You sound amazing and strong! Glad the rads went well and you have a good plan together. Don't know why the call them side effects...they always seem front and center to me:)  Hope all goes well with the port, etc., wonderful to hear you sounding so positive.

    Cheers, Anne

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited February 2013

    Karen,good to hear from you. But dang, that's a long time to have to wait for results! I imagine it was probably very unsettling to find out the results and realizing you need surgery! It is for the best to be proactive and do what is widely recommended and proven to lessen your chance of reoccurrence! I hope everything goes well and you recover quickly! In my thoughts and prayers,also.

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited February 2013

    CJRT, so glad to hear you have a plan in place and already started rads! I understand your fear of the side effects of the shot! When I was first diagnosed- the first thing out of mouth was I'm not taking any hormone blocking meds!y dr thought I was nuts!! Then we found out I was triple negative so it was a moot point!! It's a different fear of SE of chemo because you know the chemo is not forever! At least I hope it isn't for you. But the SE of the hormone blocking drugs are going to affect every aspect of your life- potentially premature aging,sexual intimacy .i'm sorry if I'm stressing you out more by saying this but that was some of my fears! A friend has to take them, I told her give them a try,maybe the side effects won't be bad! If they are,weigh the pros and cons,quality of life is important,too!She is a lot older than you and truthfully seeing what they have done to her,reinforces my belief for myself-I won't take them if I was told I should! Now I probably have bummed you out,I'm sorry! Maybe the others who are taking them will give you their input!! In my thoughts and prayers!

  • ccjj
    ccjj Member Posts: 128
    edited February 2013

    CJRT... Thank you so much for the update... So glad to hear things progressing. Why do they want you to switch from Tamoxifen to an AI? I know the AI is for post meno, but is it considered more effective?

    Is the port for the Herceptin or is chemo also part of treatment? Is the Herceptin still dosed the same? Sorry for all the questions, don't worry about answering if you don't feel like it or have the time.

    Regarding port.... Don't know if you care where they place it, but my port was placed in the underside of my upper right arm. I really liked it there. It was completely un noticeable and out of the way. My kids didn't even notice it. I'm right handed and it didn't bother me at all.

    Re: the zoladex shot and AI, I would try them and just see how you do. You have been on tamoxifen and doing okay other than the initial migraines you mentioned. Did your cycle return after you finished chemo? How soon? Mine has not returned. Wonder how long they let one go on tamoxifen before deciding menopausal.

    Glad rads is going well. I'm sure it feels good to have started treatment and have a plan.

  • CJRT
    CJRT Member Posts: 524
    edited February 2013

    belle- thank you. yes i share most of your feelings about the hormonal treatments. i feel like BC and the treatments have robbed me of so much of my life, myself, my feminity... i am aware of all of the things you mention, and they do shake me up. sometimes more than others. i feel that it is a hard choice to make, but i feel that i must go along with this treatment plan to have a fighting chance for my family. i have approached this whole journey that way (opting for the BMX even though there was NED on the MRI) and now, more than ever, I feel desperate to do anything that improves my chances. when discussing the situation with my husband, his opinion is "well we certainly will be more intimate with you on any of these medications than if you are not around anymore." i try to remind myself of that.

    ccjj- I haven't met with my MO yet. I got all the information from a phone call with her. I see her Monday and will ask further questions. Originally I had asked about getting the ovaries out, and they (my MO and GYN) had the opinion that it was not warranted in my case and that the risks at that point outweighed the benefits and to consider it when I got closer to 40. (My girlfriend in another state my age was told to do it right away b/c she had Stage 3b and was very estrogen-driven). Apparently, from what my MO explained, an AI works via a different mechanism and is still needed after ovarian suppression because the adrenal glands still produce some estrogen. I don't know if it is more effective or if the combination of no ovaries and the AI is more effective. It is a question I will have to ask. I am still on Tamoxifen until I finish RADS. There is a long explanation for that having to do with radiation being more effective at the cellular level. I did have my cycle return after chemo about 2 months later (even though I was on Tamoxifen). It was abnormal at first (but I had been 12 weeks post-partum and breast-feeding just prior to starting chemo). My headaches eventually went away after some treatment for them. Other than those initial migraines, hot flashes, night sweats, and sleep difficulties, I have felt okay on Tamoxifen for the past 6 months or so. I wouldn't even know I was taking it. I don't know how long post-Tamox they wait before thinking you are menopausal because I know it was discussed looking at ovarian removal for me down the road because they didn't think I would be menopausal after the 5 years on Tamoxifen (and it wasn't because of ovarian cancer risk b/c I don't have the BRCA gene). As for the port, thank you for your feedback. I had previously had mine on my chest and hadn't known the arm was an option prior to having it placed. I didn't know anyone who had it where you had yours placed, so it is nice to hear about your experience with it. I will just be getting Herceptin at this point. Not chemo. My MO said we had the data showing how effective Herceptin had previously been and that she plans to leave me on it as long as that continues. She also said we have some other options down the road bc of the HER2 status (Perjeta, TDM-1 - can't remember the new name). I didn't think to ask the dosing or schedule. I see the MO Monday and am supposed to have my first infusion (without the port) on Tuesday. I do plan to travel to a top cancer center once this bone is taken care of  to make sure no stone is left unturned. My center can connect me with various options, and my sister and some friends also have some connections.

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited February 2013

    Cjrt,what your husband said is very true,leave it to a man to put it in the right perspective!! LOL

    Since you've been on tamoxifen and doing well on it,you probably won't have any other issues! So put your fears and concerns to rest!

    I believe my friend's issues has to do with her age-64 and her health-chemo about did her in,I truly think she was allergic to it! she lost 50 lbs after her 1st chemo in 1 week, yep one week,and didn't gain it back!  and her skin turned black,in and out of hospital during chemo,heart damage,too! But she is 2 1/2 years cancer-free,heart function back to normal!! Her dr gives her breaks from the hormone blocking meds when the side effects are too bad and recently switched to something else!Has it been worth everything she has been thru-She says-YES,YES,YES-she'd do it again!!!

  • CJRT
    CJRT Member Posts: 524
    edited February 2013

    Thanks, belle. Xoxo

  • ccjj
    ccjj Member Posts: 128
    edited March 2013

    CJRT.... Re port. I don't think it's too common to put in the arm, because every time I went in there, it seemed to surprise the nurses in the chemo room and labs and they would all ask me about it. Not sure why he did it, he said something about not aging a lot of area and it being in the way for my reconstruction and it would really stick out of my chest and be noticeable.

    I find the ovary removal topic confusing. My place said no unless had BCRA gene, which I didn't. 2nd opinion breast surgeon I saw out at City of Hope in CA. said to remove them. A 2nd opinion from an Onc at Mayo clinic in MN said possibly, but no rush maybe wait a few years. Just had a yearly exam and pap 2 days ago and that Dr. said I should start thinking about having them taken out. So now she referred me to a gynecologic Onc to discuss further.

    I'm happy to hear you don't have to go through more chemo. You must be done or close to being done with rads at this point. Hopefully it wasent too troublesome.

  • khegidio
    khegidio Member Posts: 100
    edited March 2013

    CJRT: Well its looking like if you had to have a bone met.... that the one you have is the one you want.  So glad to hear that you probably won't have surgery.  That is a big relief for you I'm sure with your kids. 

    I had two small blood clots when I went through chemo and since tamoxifen has increased chance of clots as a side effect, my MO put me on zoladex and femara.  So I get the shot monthly... in my belly and then take the femara pill every day.  The shot itself isnt that bad.... but it doesn't feel great.  Make sure you tell them to let you ice the area first.  They usually fill a latex glove with ice for me and let me sit with it for five or s minutes.  Helps tremendously.  And yes... although it is nice to not have a period, you do get the side effects of menopause.  The hot flashes are so bad.  And you can't take a hormonal pill like most menopausal women can.  My MO has me on zoloft because it helps with the hot flashes. and it does really help.  The other side effects i have are really just a decreased libido and dryness you know where.  But - I can live with all of these if it keeps the cancer away. 

    Just wanted to give you my experience...

    Hang in there!!

  • Kayrem
    Kayrem Member Posts: 164
    edited March 2013

    Hi everyone.



    I am glad to see that CJRT has so much support! It is kind of sad that as much as we went through the initial treatments and surgeries so many of us still have to deal with the aftermath of our "initial" diagnosis. It will be nice to have a time when we can all be on these boards reporting that we have had a boring existence! No shots, no surgeries no treatments necessary. Take heart CJRT I am cautiously optimistic that you will have this "boring" time once you get this taken care of. My thoughts are with you.



    Karen

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited March 2013

    Hey, Karen, when is your surgery? Hope all goes well, keep in touch,let us know how you are doing! I think most of us are back to our new normal. I'm back to watching grandkids 3 to 4 days a week! By the end of the day, I am wore out more than before bc. Having a lot of aches and pains in my joints,don't know if it is the weather or side effect of chemo. Some of my family and friends have started a biggest loser for 6 Wks , hopefully losing some weight will help. I hope to get a good start on the weight loss,only need to lose 50 lbs. Lol CJRT ,how are you doing, hope rads and shots,are going easy on you! In my thoughts and prayers!

  • Kayrem
    Kayrem Member Posts: 164
    edited March 2013

    Hi Belleeast, surgery is on Thursday. Just want to get it over with and move on. It sounds like you are very busy! Looking after little kids for or 4 days a week is exhausting. I think the joint pain is a chemo side effect. I have quite a bit of it myself mostly in my knees. Good luck with your weight contest!

  • CJRT
    CJRT Member Posts: 524
    edited March 2013

    kate- thank you for sharing your experience with me. it is comforting to know that your experience has been manageable.

    karen- thank you for the kind, supportive words.

    unfortunately i was dealt another blow this past week (at least not bad from a cancer standpoint!), when an x-ray showed that i now have a fracture across the head of my femur which will require surgery. it may have been caused by the radiation. guess i will never know. however, i will now be getting that complete hip replacement one of you had asked about before. i honestly feel very frustrated and discouraged. however, on a positive note, the only area of disease will now be removed, they would've wanted to radiate first in my situation anyway, and they can now measure how effective the radiation i received was so that they can use that info in the future if any other spots pop up. on another positive note, i will be getting that new drug that was just approved. i have my first infusion this thursday and pray that this will be the answer to buying me more healthy years with my children. i will also be having the hip replacement 3/20. it is so strange to feel well physically (except the hip), look around at my beautiful children and lovely new home, and feel so blessed in almost every respect yet have this daunting challenge in front of me yet again.  thank you for keeping me in your thoughts and prayers. xoxo

  • cooka
    cooka Member Posts: 278
    edited March 2013

    CJRT,

    Still thinking of you and your famiy and very sorry you are having to go through this :(  

  • cooka
    cooka Member Posts: 278
    edited March 2013

    Hope all goes well Karen!

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited March 2013

    CJRT,ahhh,man! As you say,the good news is they will be removing the spot where the cancer is/was,before it has a chance to spread,you are relatively young so hopefully recovery will be easier on you! You will have lots and lots of healthy years with your family. I know it all sucks right now but really you are blessed to have found it now,it might have been years down the road before any symptoms showed and more widespreades-i know it's misspelled but my dang computer won't let me backspace without taking me off the page-arrrh!Can we do a cheer for kickboxing- Hr-crap here we go again-HELL YEAH!!!!! good news you are getting the new drug-here's to it whooping this dang cancer's butt! thinking of you and yours,in my prayers,Strong Lady!

  • CJRT
    CJRT Member Posts: 524
    edited March 2013

    Thanks so much, Belle. Love having such a great cheerleader! Hope you're having fun with those grand kids!



    Thinking of you, Karen! Will be sending you positive thoughts on Thursday.

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited March 2013

    Karen,thinking of you,hope your surgery went well and you have an easy recovery! In my thoughts and prayers.

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