Feeling alone...my husband has disconnected.

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  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited February 2013

    PSU...some crimes are legal.  This is one of them.  The longer I live the more amazed I am that these things are legal.  Where is there justice?

    I guess we have to just put one foot in front of the other.  And hope that they get theirs!

  • lisagwa
    lisagwa Member Posts: 232
    edited February 2013

    PSU- Sorry to hear about your husband and your hurt. You deserve a better person in your life.



    Timbuktu- I wonder whether you could attempt to be the bigger person and open the lines of communication.



    When I feel down about anything, I have gone to Google to search for helpful things to read. It might ease your aloneness only temporarily but what's the alternative.



  • PSU222
    PSU222 Member Posts: 127
    edited February 2013

    Have you ever felt so down that you really don't give a damn.  My rock, or so I thought, has finally actually told us all the truth about his lover.  He has been a "Pathological liar" since i was finishing up radiation therapy.  

    Some stranger called me to tell me the news.  They said they felt sorry for me and just thought I needed to know so that I could have some quality of life.  Well I guess I know longer feel as though I am in limbo....  The most depressive Valentines Day ever!!   Not to mention I have my 6 month mammo on Tuesday and a birthday on Friday.   Emotionally I am a mess and feel so alone and betrayed.  Anyone have some great advice besides attorney and domestic relations.  Please Help....

  • Robin_Brooke
    Robin_Brooke Member Posts: 30
    edited February 2013

    Psu, please hang in there. It may take some time for things to get better for you, but they will change. Reach out. Are there any support groups where you're getting treated or nearby? Check local hospitals? We are here for you.

  • wenweb
    wenweb Member Posts: 1,107
    edited February 2013

    PSU.  Sorry that you are having to deal with this.  It's never good, but especially not so when dealing with cancer.  If you are comfortable talking to friends, I say do so.  It helps to vent.  I have a friend who says, if I need to talk to someone, I call a friend.  If I still need to talk, I call another friend...You get the idea.  And the boards are here too. 

    The only consolation I can think of is that if your husband would do this to you, there's a good chance he would do it to someone else.  His co-worker has him (now),  you could be relieved that you have found out his true colors, though the timing sucks. 

    All my best to you, hang in there.

  • PSU222
    PSU222 Member Posts: 127
    edited February 2013

    Thanks Ladies!  I do speak with friends and family for support but he has been life for 40 years.  We have 2 beautiful children and grandchildren.  He and my family are all I know and want.  I hate this.  

    No sleep in 4 days 50lb. weight loss over 3 months.   I think this will kill me faster than breast cancer.

  • harvey
    harvey Member Posts: 103
    edited February 2013

    My heart goes out to you all, I thought my hubby took the biscuit  but he is starting to look like a saint.

    To be fair now I am stage iv he is much more supportive comes to every appointment and scan. Cooks , cleans and helps me get around.

    However it was different when I was first diagnosed - he complained about the cost of taking me to the hospital for treatment, £5 on fual, yet he claimed £65 from private insurance. He would not come into the chemo room or come to any appointments. The on going joke was that once I'd had my chemo - he kindly took me to the supper market - so I could choose what to cook him for tea.

    He stopped touching me then, not even ahug- and apart when he has lifted me off the floor or helped me with personal care still not.

    I once asked him why he had been so very stand offish - the  answer is forever engraved on my soul.

    Hubby looked at me and coldly said - lets just say i did not want to know. I have since found out he was busy pretending nothing was wrong . He was frightend of whatwas happening.

    i know he cares for me as I do him - but we could be brother and sister.

  • Timbuktu
    Timbuktu Member Posts: 1,906
    edited February 2013

    I so admire your reasonableness.  My son turned his back on me as soon as i started chemo and it just about killed me.  His kids were a big part of my life and I thought i'd never see them again.  Anyway, people tell me that the disease scared him but i have a really hard time believing that.  I think he doesn't care.

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited February 2013

    Bloody hell - this is called LOVE, all this total  C**P..???? Are they men or wimps? Jeez we are the ones whose lives are at stake, we are the ones messed around with hormones, mutilated by surgery, facing mortality every single damn day, constant round of uncertainty and tests and sleepless nights and so on and we need to indulge them?????? Pleazzeeeee

    My son also turned his back 6 months ago not even a call or anything at Xmas......my so called partner is so not there I have told him today I am leaving and not taking it any more...no idea how to live financially but I cannot live in this hell and negative energy day after day......guess what now he wants to talk - waaaaaaay tooooo late.....Yell

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited February 2013

    PSU222 and Timbuktu ´so sorry you have selfish thoughtless uncompassionate bastards for husbands but maybe in a year we will all look back and be soo much happier

  • ang7894
    ang7894 Member Posts: 540
    edited February 2013

    Well said lily55 if my hubby don't get it together I will be leaving too

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited February 2013

    I was married for 23 years. When times got tough, my ex would withdraw emotionally and physically. About 7 yrs. ago, I decided that I'd rather not live with someone like this, regardless of finances, being alone, selling a home I loved etc. I live, materially, a much leaner lifestyle in a small townhouse in a less than prestigious area. I have never been more at peace. I know my ex would have been awful if he'd had to deal with my bc diagnosis. Going it alone after a long marriage can be scary but it's far easier than continuing to invest time and energy in an unfeeling jerk.

  • hubby43
    hubby43 Member Posts: 6
    edited February 2013

    As a BC husband, I can say that I've stuck by my wife's side now for going on five years, but honestly, it hasn't been easy.  I know it's pathetic of me to complain, since she's the one in danger, but I can see where some husbands tire and give up.  It's not a case of our partners getting sick, then recovering.  It doesn't happen that way.  The life changes are permanent.

    In our case, we are in our 40's.  If something like this came along when we were in our 70's or even 60's, I could understand, accept and live with it better than I have.  I've held her hand through nine surgeries, and another coming up later this year. I've cleaned and debrieded wounds on her that have given me nightmares, I've tried to be patient through the tantrums, throwing and breaking things, chemically-induced menopause, complete lack of a sex life, wild mood swings and more.  Nearly everything that makes my wife physically a female has been, or will be surgically removed.  That which makes her chemically a female can never come back.  Sometimes I ask myself "Is this it?"  This is what our life is from now on?  So we just hold hands and grow old from this point and walk into the sunset?  I've waited for it to get better, and in some ways, it has, but in most ways, our life together has changed for good, and it's something that I have to accept.  Sometimes, I have a hard time accepting it.

    I've tried to be strong though it, and for the most part, I think I have, but there was one time, when I was caring for her surgical wounds, I was at my breaking point.  I asked her if I could bring in a home care nurse, and she responded by getting angry, and accused me of wanting to leave her, when all I wanted was a break.

    Everyone's situation is different, but we BC husbands are often held up to be stronger than we sometimes are.  I've always hated when someone referred to me as some kind of hero for doing what I do for her, when clearly, I'm not. Sometimes, we're held up to be people we're not cut out to be, so excuse us if we're sometimes faulty.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited February 2013

    I can imagine that it is a very tough road and that it does change your marriage forever but marriage vows say in sickness and in health, for better or for worse. Sometimes the luck of the draw gives some couples more "worse" than they could ever imagine. What would you want your wife to do and how would you expect her to behave if the roles were reversed? I hope you can redefine your marriage.

    Caryn

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited February 2013

    Hubby 43 thanks for sharing I can understand you entirely but my OH has done very little no reassurance no loving support no conversations and most people say I am not a banshee etc just less tolerant of trivial worries......mine has not been there by my side but stayed in his comfort zone whereas I cannot even see my zone!!



    I hope you are getting support too - it's a lousy deal isn't it

  • hubby43
    hubby43 Member Posts: 6
    edited February 2013

    I guess what I'm saying in my round-about way, is that some men may be hesitant to put on the "Superman" suit.   We're fixers and protectors by nature, and something of this magnitude can be overwhelming for some, because it is nowhere within their control.  

    Yes, Lily, it is a lousy deal for everyone.  The lousiest.  It's like taking every thought and dream of the future, having it smashed in an instant, and suddenly finding yourself in the passenger seat of a life you never thought you'd live.  Sometimes, donning the superman suit can seem like setting themselves up for an even lousier deal.

  • bobogirl
    bobogirl Member Posts: 2,777
    edited February 2013

    Hubby 43, this particular thread is not for you.  Please look for some kind of "I don't like my superman suit" thread.

  • lisagwa
    lisagwa Member Posts: 232
    edited February 2013

    Bobogirl- Why did you suggest that Hubby43 look for a different thread? You didn't offer any insight or understanding to your suggestion. This thread is "Feeling Alone, Husband Disconnected." What better thread for him to open up to with his personal perspective. Many of us, whether man or woman, put on different suits to get through the moment, day, week, and so on. Good for him for choosing what suits him best.



    Hubby43- When reading your responses, it put a tear to my eye. I appreciate your input and hope you continue to add to this thread.







  • bobogirl
    bobogirl Member Posts: 2,777
    edited February 2013

    Hubby, if lisagwa and others want you, stay.  I just think the women in here should be able to get all their feelings out without having to feel badly about the husbands' perspectives.  I had the idea that this thread was a chance for survivors to vent without that.  And just imagine if his wife read that -- how terrible she would feel.  I can't help thinking about it.

    I think about protecting the women in this forum before anything else.  Even real feelings of husbands.  The real Superman would never complain like that on this thread.

  • hubby43
    hubby43 Member Posts: 6
    edited February 2013

    Eh, if that sort of thing got under my skin, I'd have been long gone as a husband, believe me. Besides, I know where things like that come from, so no offense taken at all.

    I come to threads like these once in a while, (there's not much for the guys) because I see the dynamics of my own marriage, and it's at least some consolation to know that there are husbands and wives struggling with this as I am.  Some are obviously stronger than I am, some weaker, just as people are.  One problem seems to be that everyone in this boat, husbands and their BC wives as well, are so convinced that no one could possibly understand what they're going through, and sometimes, when someone tries, they get angry and resentful.

    My wife has a young friend who also has Breast Cancer.  She called me one day, asking if I'd talk to her husband, because he seemed to be so angry and distant all the time.  I told her that he's not really angry at her.  I've never been angry at my wife for this, and have never blamed her at all for the cards we were dealt.  Just pissed off at the situation.  I did talk to the man, and he pretty much confirmed what I told her.  I let my wife be angry as hell about it, so why aren't the men allowed to be? There's plenty to be angry about, but not with her. She certainly didn't ask for this.

    I'm only trying to offer one man's perspective, hopefully a little insight from the other gender, and you can take it as you wish, but if you think husbands aren't emotionally and psycologically affected by all this, you're wrong.

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited February 2013

    Husband43 - what about starting a husband´s thread or group (I hate the phrase carer as I don´t need one of them!!) - one of my gripes is my other half has done nothing at all about getting support for himself and expects me to carry him when I can barely function myself on an emotional level I am still so much in trauma mode, he leant on me before and if he still expects me to be his crutch now then he will never change............

    If you men felt supported then I think it would be easier on those of us whose men depend on us for strength even while we say we no longer feel strong....and if men spoke about teir feelings etc it might just make us feel closer and less alone.......

  • hubby43
    hubby43 Member Posts: 6
    edited February 2013

    I'd probably have better luck starting a men's knitting group. 

    Remember what I said about the Superman suit?  What I meant by it, is that men, by society or nature, are expected to be the pillar of strength, or at least be percieved to be.   Some, when faced with a wife with an illness such as Breast Cancer, are afraid to even step up to the plate, for fear of failure, because it's something that's completely out of their control.  They can probably build a house or overhaul a transmission, but something like this, they think is completely out of their league.  I know that sounds like a prideful copout, but I believe that to be true with some husbands.  I've seen it in my wife's friends' husband.  It scared the crap out of him, so he simply withdrew.

    I'm not trying to whine about my wife, or my situation.  It is what it is, I still love her, and I'm in it for the long haul.   The whole thread is full of women either searching for an answer or giving the "men are scum" reply, so I gave them a no-punches-pulled glimpse into what one man has dealt with as a caretaker husband and what he sees happening.  Everything I've told here, I've talked with my wife about at some time or another.  It isn't pretty or simple for any of us, so why wrap a pink ribbon around it and pretend that it is? 

    Men will eventually talk about their feelings.   They won't want to, and they may even get irritated or angry, but it can be done.  My wife and I do our best talking when we go out, sit at a table by ourselves with some appetizers and drinks.  Eventually, it all comes out.   Just remember, that when they do get angry, it's not at you.  I've never talked to a single breast cancer husband who actually blamed his wife for any of it.  It's not anyone's fault.

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited February 2013

    Wanted to say I appreciate that one husband has given us some insight to the other side. I think he's right most men won't come here or even talk about what they are feeling. We can't help but vent frustration though, that so many men walk or pull away.

  • lisagwa
    lisagwa Member Posts: 232
    edited February 2013

    Bobogirl- Thanks for explaining what you meant. I agree, coming to this or any thread should be our safe place to express anything freely. When you wrote, "you think of protecting the women in this forum before anything else." You sound like a very caring person. Hopefully there can be all ranges of feelings and insights while still being able to safely put it out there. I still think that husbands can have their say too without it taking away from us feeling safe and venting.

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited February 2013

    Mine is in the "its too overwhelming so I will withdraw but tell myself I am being supportive (as I am still here) " camp and I really appreciate you coming here to talk to us Hubby 43 - if only emn culd share then at least we nmight feel that our scares and fears and panics are shared - a worry shared is a worry halved and all that.....instead for so many of us its damn lonely and being the one receiving the treatments is lonely enough believe me!

  • ang7894
    ang7894 Member Posts: 540
    edited February 2013

    Hubby43 Thank you for your side and info, we do have to remember each person is different though. My situation is my hubby has gotten so angry and bitter it's like he is angry at the world and everyone in it. He at times treats me so bad I have NEVER seen out of him one minute he is talkative and fine and the very next minute he gets moody and I'M like what just happened here. I'M tired of this crank ass yes he was here BUT he has changed to mostly being an ass . I was and am the one sick and weak however I feel like I am the only one keeping us together while I bite my tongue cause IF I don't here we go with an argument. everything was fine before breast cancer we have been together for more then 20 years. What if this was him I would never treat him with anger and moodiness it is and was in sickness and in health I would be there for him no matter what. What happened to the promise of true vows he changes so bad that you really want to leave and deal with this on my own I did NOT ASK FOR THIS AS HE DID NOT EITHER.

  • Robin_Brooke
    Robin_Brooke Member Posts: 30
    edited February 2013

    I'm grateful for hubby's input. We can all get locked into our own perspective and although his might not fit each of our situations, I feel it is a helpful reminder of how everyone reacts and processes this stuff differently. I know I wouldn't treat my partner how I've been treated were the roles reversed. Some days I'm hopeful we will make it and others I wish he'd just move out and go away. Time will tell.

  • PSU222
    PSU222 Member Posts: 127
    edited February 2013

    Truthfully, I am heartbroken that my husband has left and found his lover.  I could never imagine leaving anyone in my family when they needed me the most.  Support, love and kindness are the things that help us in our saddest and weakest of times.  This has caused my situation to make me feel even sicker.  Had mammo Tuesday and was scared to death. But I had to be brave and go by myself.  He had stopped asking in August about appointments or showing any concern.  I knew that was a bad sign and it was.  He threw me and my situation right out of his life.  It was easier to look for fun!!.. 

    The sad part is I am almost at the 2 year mark, birthday tomorrow, daughter getting married soon and all he thought of was his selfish self.  Poor man.....  What comes around goes around....

  • lisagwa
    lisagwa Member Posts: 232
    edited February 2013
    Without trying to sound corny, the women here are Superwomen aka super women.


  • PSU222
    PSU222 Member Posts: 127
    edited February 2013

    Lisagwa,

    Not corny at all. Just speaking from your heart. Women are stronger and caring, That's one reason we give birth and men can't.

    I laugh when I think how they could try and run from the stirup's!!

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