January 2013 surgery
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Tami, I think we should all throw you a virtual party for getting your final drain out. Your story about the farting boob cracked me up and yes one of the things that I love the most about God is His sense of humor.
Erdwoman, Maybe I am missing something here but why would they want to do an ALND after you finish chemo? If there was something there before it is quite likely that it will be gone by then. In fact one of the problems with neoadjuvant therapy is that when you finally do the surgery you will never know if the staging is accurate because all imaging is imprecise especially where lymph nodes are concerned and you don't know if the negative nodes at surgery were always negative or if the chemo or hormone therapy just cleaned them up. You might want to check the stats of incidence of lymphedema with ALND vs with radiation.
Emily, sorry that the chemo is a bitch but glad that you have a trip to look forward to. That always makes a big difference in my attitude if I have something to look forward to. I got a sleeve too before I left home because I have to fly back in order to start my radiation on time. Incidentally while the Floridians are complaining about the cold I am thinking what great walking weather.
I put my husband on a flight from Miami to Lima, Peru for a 2 1/2 week to SA with his former college roomate a trip both I and the other man's wife are ever so glad that we are not taking. I wish them well but I am also very grateful for a time of peace and quiet to do just what I want to just when I want to or to do nothing at all and not feel guilty about it. I am an only child and we tend to need a certain amount of alone time in order to thrive. This is especially true when you are healing.
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Hi, Lemons. My drains came out when I was less than 40cc's. I had heard that 30 was the magic number, so I was ecstatic when Dr. said that they could come out. The next week when I went in for a fill, I did have some fluid that my body did not absorb and the dr had to drain it manually. Since then, I have had no other problems.
MMSS, my son is an only child and he was always telling me about his need for alone time. Give him an hour a day with no distractions and he was a different person! I am at the Alabama/ Florida state line and was so hoping for warmer weather so I could walk on the beach. Maybe next trip!
Tamiami, yipeeeeee for no drains! I'll join you in your virtual party! -
Ladies~ I am up for the virtual party! I had such a nice day yesterday meeting up with my HS girlfriends...even enjoyed a bloody mary and a glass of wine! I was still feeling good afterward, so I stopped by my son's house and ended up watching a movie and having chocolate fondue. So all and all, I was out of the house for 8.5 hours and still felt great! I feel like a whole new woman! I even had jeans on for the first time since surgery...I had to wear sweats or warm-ups out before because of the drain! The jeans were a little tight, so I started a diet today and am going to the gym to lightly hit the treadmill. I have 30 lbs. to lose, but even 5 will help before I go back to work next Tuesday!
Today is also the day that I start LE PT, and I have a PS appt. hoping to be able to discuss exactly which permanent implants she is planning to use, and maybe get the exchange scheduled for April/May. I went onto the Reconstruction topic and "met" whippwtmom in the "breast implant sizing 101" thread, and the thread itself is a wealth of knowledge. Whippetmom is the icing on the cake...she has been so helpful to me in figuring out what type and size of implant best suits my body! I'm hoping to be able to bring this information to the PS without stepping on her toes. I'm thinking about just asking what she plans to use, and praying that it is the same thing that Whippetmom recommends. But if not, I am armed with complete understanding of what I need and why I need it! I really recommend checking out that thread!
Tami
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Tami..Glad your feeling so well. I just turned the corner myself last week. I'm feeling like myself again. It feels so good just to be able to do laundry and cook. The simple things in life I will never take or granted anymore! I need to lose 30 pounds as well. I've been walking every day for 30 minutes but today I'm ready to add on another 10. But it's so cold that I hate being outside and we just quit the health club. We have a stationery bike but my PS said I cannot ride that for another couple of weeks.
What information do you have to give to Whippetmom? I should do that as I don't want to be too big. -
Hope~ At the top of the thread she tells what she needs. I think it is height, weight, and rib cage measurement right under your tissue expanders.
I went to the gym and walked 2 miles...took 40 minutes...so not too fast. Then I rean home and showered quickly for my LE PT evaluation. Well, she thinks I have truncal and arm LE on the left side and recommends seeing her for 3 weeks and wrapping the arm from fingers to arm pit, and adding compression to the side of my breast. BUT, she didn't like the look of my right breast. Between 9am and 11am it had turned bright red, hard, and hot. She is concerned about it being cellulitis. She sent me right to the PS office. She is concerned too, and took a fluid sample from the breast...that she said looks cloudy...and is sending it out for a culture. That could take 10 days, in the meantime she started me on Bactrim and wants me to rest all week. No excercise, no PT, just short of bed rest! She will see me again on Friday, but wants a daily email about how I'm feeling and if it gets any worse to come right in. I just called because now I am achy and have a low fever, she said to take Tylenol for the fever and call back if it goes over 101. So much for that corner I turned.
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Really sOrry for your troubles but so great that you have a doc that wants to hear from you daily. This is almost unheard of these days!
I think I'm going to have to watch for LE because I had a sentinel node biopsy and when I tried two weeks ago to do light exercise with that arm the area swelled a lot. It's been almost 3 months since the biopsy (doing neoadjuvant chemo now). Now it's gone down again.
This disease sucks!
Hoping the best for you!
Peggy -
Someone was asking for info on cording: http://stepup-speakout.org/Cording_and_Axillary_Web_Syndrome.htm
If you have signs of cording, your BS or PS should be able to give you a scrip for a lymphedema therapist.
Peggy - swelling after exercise is absolutely something that could indicate LE. Please be careful, and learn about LE: http://stepup-speakout.org/ Tell your surgeon what happened when you tried some light exercise, and try to get a scrip for an evaluation by a certified lymphedeam therapist.
Tami - so sorry about the possible LE, but it sounds like your LE therapist plans on doing CDT - Complete Decongestive Therapy. The idea is to treat early stage LE aggressively to keep it from getting worse - and yes that means being wrapped 24/7 for a few weeks. But that's exactly the right treatment. That will probably be on hold until they determine whether the red area is infection or not - if it is they'll want to get that under control before starting CDT. More info on CDT: http://stepup-speakout.org/treatments_for_lymphedema.htm Your LET should get you fitted with compression garments, and should also teach you MLD - manual lymph drainage you can do yourself. Also, ask your LET about the Lebed exercises - they are a series of slow, almost tai chi like exercises designed to move lymphatic fluid. The opening sequence takes about 15 minutes and should be done daily. Many of us on the LE section here on BCO have found that the Lebeds are even more effective than MLD.
Anyone with any questions or concerns about LE - if you have any concern, please follow up. Don't let your surgeon or other doctors minimize your concerns. After all, if it really is LE, you're the one who is going to have to live with it, not them - do what you can to get a referral to a certified lymphedema therapist. Head over to the LE section here on BCO and to Step Up Speak Out to learn more. Knowledge is power.
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FYI - I have been going to an OT who specialized in lymphedema. She told me if I go to the gym to measure my arm before I exercise and again after to make sure there are no changes.
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Thanks NatsFan~ It was just the initial evaluation so she didn't get into everything, but I will be sure to ask about the Ledbeds! I have used the http://stepup-speakout.org/ website to research, and was even able to determine that my LET is certified. It made me really comfortable that my PS did everything the right way according to the site too. She did say that the infection needs to be taken care of before anything else!
My daughter is an RN in Missouri...I'm in Michigan...so when I talked to her last night she told me to use permanent marker to outline the entire red area to be able to tell if it gets any worse. I did that last night, and this morning the redness is more pink and has not moved past the marker line. It's still hot and shiney though. I do have an itchy raised rash on my chest now that goes right to the border of the marker line. Waiting to talk to my daughter about that when she gets off work. I'm not achey anymore, but still nauscious. I think it's better than yesterday.
Tami
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Tami, I am so very sorry that you have had such a bad time. You must be feeling like one of those blow up toys that you knock over and it comes back up again and then you knock it over again. Please know that healing thoughts and prayers are coming your way and someday you will get to the other side of all this and you will be your happy healthy self again.
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Thank you Susan~ I'm just laying low this week and hoping for good news tomorrow at the PS appointment. The rash and the nauscia are side effects from the high dose Bactrim...not allergic reactions, but side effects that should get better with use. I have to be on it for 14 days, so I certainly hope that's true! Still have my finger's x'd that I can go back to work part time next week, and begin the LE PT.
NatsFan~ I'm looking for your advice about something. If I do the wrapping for my LE then I won't be able to work for another 3 weeks...I'm a hairstylist. Since my LE is primarily in the breast, my PS reccommended trying a sleeve (gauntlet during my off hours) and then the foam inserts for the breast for 3 weeks, and then reassessing. If that didn't work, then I could take 3 weeks off and try the wrapping. It sounds logical and like a great compromise...do you see anything wrong with this approach?
Tami
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Tami - I was just about to suggest that you post your question on the LE section and ask the experts there for help, but then I looked and you'd already done that.
Binney, Kira, Carol, and a few others there post regularly on that section of BCO - they're the ones who wrote the SUSO site and are really knowledgable. You can take whatever they say as gold.
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NatsFan~ Thank you so much for all your advise! You are very knowledgeble as well! It pays to ask advice from several people about a subject that they are very familiar with.
Tami
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Ive got a red Boob! Its not hot nor does it hurt. It does feel swollen. It almost looks like a big bruise. Im seeing my PS anyways today for a fill but I bet I don't get it.
Im so bummed as we were going to go away this weekend! 32 years of Wedded Bliss
today.
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Hope~ Happy anniversary! Here's hoping the red boob is not an infection, but if it is you will be fine...you have caught it early! I only felt crappy the first day/night, and then the Bactrim kicked in. Please let me know how it went today!
Tami
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Thanks Tami. Well, I went to my PS office today. He, of course, is on vacation but his assistant who is awesome took pictures of my boob and sent it to him. He quickly responded. They don't think it's serious but put me on antibiotics. Told me to watch for fever. So we will see how it goes. Sounds like we have the same thing happening. I didn't get my fill which I sadly expected. Both my boobs, underarms don't feel right today. They hurt more than yesterday. Going to take a melatonin which the nurse lady said to do. Only 1mg as if you take too much, it keeps you awake.
Have you ever tried the Kinseo tape for LE? My sister said it really works. You would have to ask your PS or PT.
I don't understand why we have to go through all these other side effects too. Geez...it just doesn't let up! -
Hope~ Just try to enjoy the weekend and clear your head of all the negative junk...I know that's easier said than done, but I really hope you can!
I did hear about the Kinseo tape, but I'm not sure where...may have been the LE PT. I will know more if I get the ok to start therapy. I see PS today for a follow up on the infection.
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Ok ladies,
Pathology report showed invasive cancer (.5cm) . I have been recovering with a wound vac and iv pic line antibiotic from strep infection. Thank god that it is out of me....but it is not over yet. The canced was Her2+. I will need lhmph node disection. This wasnt done with my original surgery because they thought it was pure dcis. I will also start herceptin treatments. Has anyone had these treatments? Oh...may get last two bulbs removed on Monday so that is a positive. Sorry for not writi g earlier....I was in hospital for two weeks!:( I am home now!
Laurie -
Oh Laurie, I wondered where you were, and how you were doing. I am so sorry to hear your Dx has changed and that you have to go through more surgery and treatments. ((((((hugs)))))
You've had a tough time lady! Two weeks in Hospital, an infection, that must have been hard.
Pleased to hear you are home now and healing. You'll feel better when you get rid of the other two drains.
I am sure there will be someone along who can help out with info about the Herceptin treatment. Wish I could help.
Take care Laurie, I'll be thinking of you!
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Hi Laurie...Glad to hear from you! So sorry to hear you have to have more surgery!
I can't help you with the Herceptin treatments as I am not having that. But I am sending you prayers so you may get through your next phase with ease! -
Laurie~ Wow! What an ordeal! Glad to hear you're home and on your way to health! I don't know anything about herceptin treatments, but I'm sure if you search on the site there will be plenty of info! Is .5cm considered a microinvasion? I'm hoping it is! Best wishes for the node dissection, is that coming up soon, or are they waiting for mor of the infection to heal? One last question, was your staph infection cellulitis?
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Hello sisters,
I just join the club n so glad to find this group of sisters!!!:)
I done my surgery on 1/11/13, the mastectomy / lymph node biopsy on the right, however, the surgeon only got the tissues but no lymph nodes. So the surgeon did another surgery for lymph nodes biopsy/ dissection on 2/15/13. With a large of tissues, there was only 1 node found!!! ( he said it never happen on him from all his practices!) Luckily, it shows negative. In general, my recovery from both surgery are very smooth expect the sharp pain..... Now I'm working on the chemo port placement on 3/15/13 then follow up with 4/8 cycles of chemo treatments. My onc said since there is no lymph node involved and due to the mass tumor size(noninvasive 4.5 cm and invasive 4.1 cm), I have option for taking 4 cycles of treatments, or follow the "standard treatments" for 8 cycles. I really hate when doctors give the options but follow with the "potential effects" such statements. But I really don't know which is good for me:(... Any comments will be great appreciated!!!
Wishing all the sisters the best!! We can do it n fight on!!! -
Hi Cherish~ Welcome to the January ladies! I think most of your questions will get answers faster in the IDC forum or the Chemo forum. There are quite a few ladies here having or had chemo treatments as well, but it all fairly new to most of us too. Please continue to post here, but also try those other forums. Good luck!
Tami
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Laurie,
I started Herceptin last month and have had no problems. The main SE is heart related and I will have an echocardiogram every 3 months to check on that. The infusion was easy, no premeds except benadryl and tylenol and lasted an hour. Easy, breezy. Hope it goes well for you too.
Susan
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Susan
Thank you so much for the info. I will have to wait until this iinfection clear s but my onocologist wants to srart in a few weeks....will keep in touch with you if you dont mind!
Laurie -
Laurie I'm sorry about your path results if I have another reoccurring BC I probably would have choose MA.Glad to hear you have made it home to recover.Get better soon.
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Thx bunch for the advices! For sure I will keep post n love to read all of the posts!
I believe that we all can do it n fight on!!!~~~~</p>
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Laurie Sorry to hear you had such a rough go & long stay in the hospital. Glad you are home & healing. Your girls must have be so happy
. Positive thoughts as you begin the next step of tx.
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Laurie,
I go for my second Herceptin infusion next Friday and I'll let you know how that goes. I'm also now on Anastozole for 5 years...so far I have only noticed more difficulty in sleeping through the night. PM me with any questions!
Susan
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Hi everyone!
Tami,
Sorry to hear about the tough time you are having. Were you able to start your LE PT? Did they ever determine what was going on with your hardened, red breast? Have you been able to go back to work part time? I know it is all a process, but is it too much to ask for a little easier go of it all?
Hope,
Hope you had a wonderful anniversary! 32 years!!!!!!! Congratulations. Have things cleared up for you with your reddened breast?
Laurie,
So sorry to hear about the path report. Did they say how long you would have to wait for the lymph node dissection? Hope you got your drains out yesterday and are on the road to wellness! As we say here in the south, "Well, bless your heart!" And I mean that in the most sincere way. You are due some good fortune!
Cherish,
Welcome! Will be thinking of you on 3/15 for your port placement.
My last fill was today and these 100 cc fills are kicking my butt! I debated on dividing it up into 2 50cc fills, but settled on getting it over sooner. Me thinks it was not the wisest of choices. This too shall pass and now I am one week closer to my exchange.....April 15th (tax day : p ) sure hope my PS is not too unhappy about the amount he has to pay...might result in a wonky outcome for me. Hope not! Thinking of and praying for y'all.
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