Thank God for 5 Years

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Meggy
Meggy Member Posts: 530

I just passed the five year mark from the start of treatment with no recurrence.  I feel so very blessed. 

I have such a strong feeling that the time will come soon when even with a recurrence of TNBC, it means living on for 20 years plus....I feel like they are on the edge of huge discoveries for us...all of us, since we are clearly not all the same...different types of cancers, but I really believe that science will soon have treatments that keep our cancer knocked down and keep it from coming back. 

May God bless all of my sisters.

Meg

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  • Racy
    Racy Member Posts: 2,651
    edited February 2013

    Wishing you continued good health, Meg. I have read that triple  negative is extremely unlikely to recur after five years and I hope that is the case for you.

    I pray you are right that there will be a permanent cure or cures very soon.

  • Babs37
    Babs37 Member Posts: 455
    edited February 2013

    VERY HAPPY FOR YOU MEGGY!!!! Wishing you many many more BC free years. Hugs.Smile

  • Mumtobe
    Mumtobe Member Posts: 159
    edited February 2013

    Hi Meggy,

    I've said it to you before and I'll say it to you again....you are my inspiration!! I hope I am still connecting with you in five years. Just finished chemo on Wednesday, 28 sessions of rads to go.

    So happy for you....God bless you always

    xxx

  • Sjesse12345
    Sjesse12345 Member Posts: 45
    edited February 2013

    So happy for you Meggy, as Mumtobe said above, you are an inspiration to us "newbies", keep it up sister.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited February 2013

    YEAH!! We wish you many, many more years of good health!

  • sheila63
    sheila63 Member Posts: 38
    edited February 2013

    I am so happy for you, and wish you many more years to be disease free, and also fear free.  I have read many of your post, and you are a true inspiration.

  • Mumtobe
    Mumtobe Member Posts: 159
    edited February 2013

    Meggy,

    I hope you don't mind me asking but I was looking at your tx plan. How come you had 2 AC's after surgery and then carbo/taxotere. I see the majority of us TN's seem to just have 4 a/c and then 4 taxol (or 12 wkly taxol). You seem to have had that bit more chemo. Just wondering why?

    C x

  • Missy123
    Missy123 Member Posts: 18
    edited February 2013

    That's wonderful news Meggy, congratulations! Smile 

  • Luah
    Luah Member Posts: 1,541
    edited February 2013

    Meggy: very happy for you. 

  • Meggy
    Meggy Member Posts: 530
    edited February 2013

    Mumtobe, I did a crazy amount of chemo.  Not everyone should do this but I just had to because of my kids.  I did the normal chemo of the time before surgery, which was 4 AC and 4 Taxol, but when they did the surgery, there was still one node with cancer in it. 

    Taking 2 more ACs was not recommended by my doctors.  I just forced them.  When I took AC originally, I wish I had had one more dose because after just two doses it took my very palpable lump down to almost nothing....just 2 doses!  So after surgery, when all of the cancer was not quite gone, I just decided to throw a little more AC at it.  Again, not for everyone.  It was not my doctors' recommendation.

    Then after that, I did what my doctor had originally recommended if I did not get pathological complete response (since I didnt' get complete response).  That was carboplatin with taxotere. 

    Since the first round of chemo (AC Taxol) took so much cancer out of me...none left in my breast at all (and I had had alot of invasive cancer in my breast)...and I had a huge grape sized possitive node plus probably many more...so since AC and Taxol had done so much.....Taxotere is the cousin drug to Taxol but it kicks cancer's but in a slightly different way....so if you get good results with one, the other one is a natural follow up drug, so Ive heard.

    I really did so much becuase I was a single mom of two young kids with their dad istotally disfunctional and a bad influence.  My parents are old and my sister does not get along with my son at all.  I really had no one to take care of my kids if I didn't win this war.  So I pulled out the "big guns" as my oncologist called it.

    It's possible I could get another cancer down the road since I did so much chemo, but I am so OK with that.  My oncologist said that's like 20 years out (not sure of actual statistics). My kids will be grown then.  They will be OK if a cancer comes back.  They were just too young at the time.  Even five years later, my boy is only 12. 

    I'm dinged up mostly from losing nodes. I have lymphedema in both arms and my back, but I look normal.  Just have to do a bunch to keep my arms in line and I can't do active things anymore.  But this is a price I'm willing to pay.

    After I was diagnosed, I had literally prayed to God to take an arm or a leg but just let me live to raise my kids.  He let me keep both arms but made them somewhat difficult to live with.  LOL  Again, a price I am happy to have paid. 

    But maybe the reason I'm still here is the low fat diet I started after I finished treatment.  I read that study and was overwhelmingly convinced that triple negative cancer loves fat.  So I starved any remaining cancer cells of their precious fat.  (someting like 35-40% lower recurrence rate.)  I lost weight which made me feel better about myself too.  I also did moderate exercise....just walked inside a circle in my house listening to country music for 3 hours a week.  6 hours is better if you are able to.  They are not quite sure why this also lowers recurrence rates but it may have to do with insulin. 

    I really feel that the low fat diet combined with exercise is, for a triple negative, like having a target therapy like temoxifen or herceptin.  I just kept visualizing how miserable I was making the cancer.  I became an inhospitable host.

    Thank you sisters for your kind words.

    Meg

  • InspiredbyDolce
    InspiredbyDolce Member Posts: 1,181
    edited February 2013

    Wow, Meggy - I agree with everything you posted.  Thank goodness your doctors let you have the extra medicine and provide you with that benefit.  That is awesome!  :o)  

    An "unhospitable host".  I love that thinking.

    What do you eat for snacks Meggy?  I have a hard time staying full.  Can you give us some tips, and maybe tell us what a typical dinner is for you?

    The reason why exercise is beneficial for TNBC is because of insulin resistance.  I read that 45 minutes a day reduces recurrence risk 40%, and if you can do it for 75 minutes a day, risk of recurrence is 60%.  As soon as I read that, I went straight back to the fitness room and did the other half hour.  Nowadays, I do 90 minutes a day, so that I have cushion to take a day off.  I wasn't clear if the article said a day off was reflected in it, but they mentioned 8 hours a week.

  • Meggy
    Meggy Member Posts: 530
    edited February 2013

    InspiredbyDulce....For dinner I typically eat a lean meat (often grilled although they say charred meat can cause cancer....) and some veggies done in the pan with lots of seasoning and water instead of oil.  Some brown rice or whole grain pasta or just a piece of bread. 

    For breakfast almost always a big bowl of whole grain cereal..keeps me full and not craving junk (except for lately)  then some fruit for a snack later.  Or some Trader Joes cat cookies.  I eat about 6 after each meal to keep me feeling non-deprived.

    I also eat lots of beans.  soups or Canned chili is a great low fat meal...top with some diced onions...  You can make awsome cornbread with no fat at all!  Just use a regular mix but use non-fat vanilla yogert instead of oil or butter and use non-fat milk.

    You can roll up left over meat into a tortilla with veggies and have a yummy low fat buritto or taco.

    I have a thread called Easy Low Fat Foods to Save a Triple Negative Life.  It has lots of good ideas.

    If you are craving real junk...I  have fake banana cream pie.  I slice up bananas,add a graham cracker and top with fat free whipped cream (probably has some fake stuff in it that is bad for us).  So I only eat it when I feel like I am going to eat badly.

  • Fighter_34
    Fighter_34 Member Posts: 834
    edited February 2013

    Meggy-you rock and I wish many more years ahead!!!

  • Yayme
    Yayme Member Posts: 107
    edited February 2013

    I am Inspired by you Meggy...

    I myself need to start working out more. I have been so tired after chemo then the inplant exchange made me sore, so I am now going to slowly introduce the treadmill. I used to be able to go for over an hour on it...now I get out of breath after having the chemo. I have to go back for a repeat echo to make sure the A/C didn't do any damage...

    I agree that diet does help....I have been much more healthful. Of course I do slip up here and there....

    I am so happy for you...and wish you many many more cancer free years...

    I am sending lots of blessings and hugs your way...

    Lisa

  • InspiredbyDolce
    InspiredbyDolce Member Posts: 1,181
    edited February 2013

    Meggy,

    Your meal plans sound very similar to mine -- and I do what you do, steam the veggies with only water!

    I read recently that cabbage is great, so I've started buying the shredded cabbage from Trader Joe's.  I steam the cabbage just a minute with only water, and then I transfer it to a whole wheat tortilla, and maybe add red bell peppers, roll it and warm it in the oven.  My husband calls it the largest egg roll he has ever seen.  LOL  I know it sounds crazy, but the whole wheat Mission tortilla has a slight sweet taste that makes this a great go-to snack.  I say snack, as I'm always starving.  And I LOVE Trader Joe's cat cookies, but I can't be trusted with them.  My last purchase, I couldn't control myself, and I finally asked my husband to take them to his work.  

    Also, I love Trader Joe's Steel Cut Organic Oats for the AM.

    You've given us such great insight on here.  I really appreciate it.  I'll be looking for that cinnamon bread too!

  • InspiredbyDolce
    InspiredbyDolce Member Posts: 1,181
    edited February 2013

    I'm going to try and find your thread now!

  • InspiredbyDolce
    InspiredbyDolce Member Posts: 1,181
    edited February 2013

    I found your thread!  Thank you - it's awesome, I'll contribute some help there too.

    For seasonings, you can look on http://nutritiondata.self.com and see which ones are anti-inflammatery.  Cayenne pepper is very anti-inflammatory, and turmeric/curcurmin is also a great spice with benefits.  So I like to use all 3 for seasonings, in addition to ground black pepper and organic garlic powder, or real garlic, if we have it on hand and if I have the cutting board out.  :)

    To anyone starting out, it might seem hard at first to keep up with all this, but if you join http://www.myfitnesspal.com you can keep track of your daily fat/protein/carbs.  It logs all your food items, and many items are in the database.  I've added 2 items.  You can also record a meal, so you don't have to reinvent the wheel each day, and you can record your favorite meal, etc.  It is very handy as it shows you at a glance how much fat/carb/protein/calories you have left to spend for the balance of the day. It records your exercise for that day as well, and factors in your new calories/daily quota of what you can have.  When you first set it up, you can change the default program, for a stricter quota.  So under fat grams, you can go in and change it to 10% if you want, etc and you can always adjust/update as you go!

    They also have a smartphone app for their site.

  • InspiredbyDolce
    InspiredbyDolce Member Posts: 1,181
    edited February 2013

    What Meggy mentioned, regarding feeling like a discovery is coming.  I also do believe that soon they will have a discovery to help TNBC prognosis.  If you google "MD Anderson Moonshot Project" it is a large-scale project aimed at 8 rare cancers, and TNBC is one of them. Dr. Sanjay Gupta, was on CNN when it was first announced and he said significant advances with the first 2 years ... and it's been about 6 months now since that report.  

  • Mumtobe
    Mumtobe Member Posts: 159
    edited February 2013

    Amazing Meggy. You are so wonderful to have had so much chemo and still care for two small kids. Your kids are so blessed to have such a wonderful mother! At one stage before I had my daughter, my obs suggested I have a fifth bout of AC to bring me closer to my due date but my onc absolutely refused so I guess I shouldn't bother trying to fight her on that one. In saying that I had a pCR to AC. My lump was gone after one bout. It's powerful stuff. Would still love another shot of it.....just to be sure! I guess I am in God's hands now. I have been eating very healthily aswell, I just sometimes crave junk food. I guess a little every now and then isn't a bad thing. Have been walking aswell, although the weather is just so bad here (Ireland), it's constantly raining which makes it tricky to bring baby out.

    So happy for you meggy, may we all be here in five years time.

  • Meggy
    Meggy Member Posts: 530
    edited March 2013

    Thank you Mumtobe but I can't hold a candle to what you've done.  You are truly amazing.  That is so much to go through.  I'm so glad you had such a good response to chemo.  I pray God protects you until you are a very, very old lady.

  • yellowdoglady
    yellowdoglady Member Posts: 349
    edited March 2013

    Good job, Meggy!

    I'll have my 5 year in November.  I did surgery first, before we knew how bad it could be, then went straight to taxotare and cytoxin for 18 weeks.  Then on to 7 weeks of daily radiation five days a week.  I wanted that beast dead.  I'm told it certainly is, but only time will tell for sure.  I lost 4 lymph nodes of the 14 taken, and I did develop lymphedema in one arm, but a good lymphedema therapist can fix that.  You can have your arms wrapped to reduce the swelling and restore your arms to a normal size, and not necessarily at the same time.  You can learn exercises to keep it from coming back, and you can be fitted with sleeves to relieve the stress on your arms while you live a normal life.  If you haven't done any of that already, you can and should.  Your docs or the local hospital should know who to refer you to.  You need a Certified Lymphedema Therapist.  Part of being a survivor is deciding to live well from now on.  Look into it.  There is no need to suffer unecessarily.   

    Good luck!

        

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