just dont want to

I am supposed to start radiation tomorrow but just dont want to..................I have such mixed feelings

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  • CelineFlower
    CelineFlower Member Posts: 875
    edited February 2013

    same here jabal... tho i have not done surgery yet, still in chemo...

    but i am with you... you are not alone

  • april485
    april485 Member Posts: 3,257
    edited February 2013

    I totally understand. That is a tx that is in my future too. Having my lumpectomy on 2/21 and then a few weeks to heal up and off to rads. They tell me that I will be fine. I am still scared shitless. I know that I have to do it but it doesn't make it easier. Hugs and hope it goes well for you. Seems that it does much of the time so let's hope that is the case for us.

  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited February 2013

    I don't want to jinx myself, but did want to let you guys know that so far at least (today will be treatment 17/30) it really hasn't been that bad at all .... my skin is holding up well (barely even a little pink) and now that I am finally over the bronchitis I had last week, the fatigue seems to be nowhere near as bad as I thought it was a few days ago.

    I think that people who are having problems tend to post a lot more frequently as the rest of us don't have much to say, but I did want to reassure you guys that it really isn't all that bad!

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited February 2013

    Just want to reassure you that radiation really isn't that bad. I finished a year ago, have had reconstruction on my lump side and have experienced no ill effects. I got red and itchy toward the end of treatment, but it went away very quickly. Best wishes!

  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2013

    I, too, finished radiation over a year ago; left breast, shoulder, collarbone, neck and underarm.  Other than getting really red- and itchy skin (not unlike a bad sunburn), I suffered no ill effects.  I was hiking 5 miles, 3- to 4 times a week before I was finished treatment and, within a month after finishing, I was, also, cycling 30- to 40 kilometres a week.  My skin healed quickly, but  I do notice that it is, now, sensitive and doesn't like perfumed beauty products.  I have experienced no problems with my heart or problems breathing, and am, currently ('cause it's cold and icky out), putting in 20-25 miles a week on my elliptical machine.

  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited February 2013

    I had 33 RADS treatments last year. They were not bad at all. I was so relieved that I didnt have to do chemo I didnt care what the SEs were. As it was I didnt have a lot of burning at all. I was really tired about halfway through but my ONC said that would probably happen and to brace myself for it. The techs where I had the treatments done were awesome. They took me on time and answered my questions which I continually peppered them with. One of them had been doing rads treatments for over 20 years so she was pretty much in the know. I scheduled the first appt of the day so I could go and get it over with. I wore a zip up hoodie which made it a lot easier. My RAD Onc was one of the best but not a talker. He would answer your questions but didnt volunteer anything. I was hoping to have the RADS treatments where you go 2x a day for a week like my sister in law(she had bc insitu)but he said since I had a micromet in the SN I needed to have the treatment that including the nodes. Of course he was right but I was just hoping. Anyway nothing to be afraid of. There are women who have posted who have had issues with RADS but I was one of the fortunate ones who didnt. diane

  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2013

    I would, also, like to point out that - after having 7 anxillary nodes removed AND radiation to the underarm - I have not had any issues with lymphadema.  Strangely, my mother - who had only 5 nodes removed and no radiation - is having problems.  Go figure.

  • Nat23
    Nat23 Member Posts: 45
    edited February 2013

    Hello ;)

    I'm having mixed feelings about starting radiation too. I've been super emotional (which is pretty unusual). My dad asked how my practice run went today and he wished me luck on my first day tomorrow and tears just started pouring. What a mess ;) lol...I've been so strong through this whole journey so far. I have already done chemo, had my surgery, have my TEs (and have them filled half way). So I feel like I should be happy to get this RADs business out if the way but I just REALLY don't want to start tomorrow. I'm tearing up typing this...oh my



    Anyways...reading everyone's experience does make me feel better ;) thank u ladies for sharing! I hope I'm gonna fly through this! My sister and I have been googling creams and stuff for radiation and one that stood out was Jeans Cream...has anyone heard of/have used it? It sounded good so I ordered it.

    I'm one day behind u jabal ;) how many treatments r u getting?

  • Js621d
    Js621d Member Posts: 3
    edited February 2013

    Tomorrow I will be one third of the way done with my rads treatment (12 of 36 treatments). Simulation was not a problem and I was looking forward to getting started, thus finished. My first day of the treatment caught me by surprise, emotionally. Suddenly I felt overwhelmed! I was quite weepy, so unlike me up to this point. I focused on relaxing my muscles, tried some slow deep breaths, and got through it. The techs - they were great - were very understanding and told me it was not unusual for people to feel that way. Things have improved each day as I go in. I bring in my own music and visualize calming scenes in my mind.....the beach......garden areas........water falls. My body feels like it is melting into the table.....I'm really starting to relax! So I offer my experience of relaxation techniques to help you through.



    Oh! I place a cloth over my eyes so I can better place myself in my quiet area without the distraction of the room lights.

  • gemini4
    gemini4 Member Posts: 532
    edited February 2013

    I haven't had to go through chemo, so I don't know how the experience compares.  But I'm seeing a lot of women (myself included) surprised at how emotional they feel about radiation.  I think we all hear that it's not bad, that we end up with a sunburn and some fatigue towards the end of the course.

    But the reality for many of us is quite different (though there are many posts from women who have had no issues, and I'm hoping to join them!).  I'm on Day 3 and am surprised at how crummy I feel (queasy, hot, irritable, dull headache).  Today was doctor day, and my RO thinks I might not be hydrated enough.  So I will definitely work on getting in lots more water!

    One thing that struck me about rads is just how seemingly scary it is.  I've described the machine to people I know as something out of NASA -- and lying there on that hard board with my arms above my head and my breasts exposed, well, there's something kind of heartbreaking about it.  More than the procedures surrounding my two surgeries (IV sedation helps!).  The rads staff at the hospital is made up of very kind, compassionate people.  But that robotic machine clicking and zooming feels sinister, even though I know it's supposed to be helping me.  When I'm lying there after the tech's have left the room, I wonder, "what would happen if I sneeze while the beam is on?"  I find myself closing my eyes when the "BEAM ON" light comes on, thinking I might be protecting my eyes from the radiation.  It's just very weird, and I really had not considered that it would be like this.

    That said, I do have hope that it will get better.  My RO predicts that it will, for what it's worth!

  • tuxtails
    tuxtails Member Posts: 39
    edited February 2013

    I will be starting rads soon as well, I had my simulation and go back for the final marks on the 28th. I hear to drink plenty of water, take vitamin D and keep getting enough exercise. I bought pure Aloe Vera and plan on getting some other products I have read about. The thought of going there every day for 5 weeks is tiring enough, but it could be alot worse. Having the advice here is worth so much to me and I appreciate it!

  • cooper1988
    cooper1988 Member Posts: 3
    edited March 2013

    I am on number 28 of 33 and I have to say it wasn't bad. The fact that it was only 15 mins from work, and I had my appts at 11 helped. Going back to work, keeping busy, was key. I found I was thirsty a lot, when I asked the radiologist if this was common she said no.



    I have tried to increase my protein. Couldn't exersize, to painful while running. It was an agonizing decision to make, but I felt I had to do what was available to kill any remaining cancer cells...of course now I worry about lung and heart impairments or secondary cancers caused by the radiation. During treatment I try to relax and say the Hail Mary...prayer is a powerful thing! Good luck ladies

  • MsW2012
    MsW2012 Member Posts: 226
    edited March 2013

    Hello! Been up since 4:30, can't stop thinking about upcoming radiation treatment. Thanks to Annette47 for pointing out that most people who post are those having issues, so we newcomers can get a skewed view. We can all hope that our experience will be relatively easy!

    And Js621d, thanks for some great ideas. The rad techs at my orientation appt did say I could bring an ipod but I had forgotten. I like the idea of a cloth over the eyes too. I can imagine that would have helped during the CT scan. And if I am feeling very anxious during treatment, I will remember the relaxation techniques.

    Gemini4, thanks to you for describing the machine. Good to know in advance that it won't be exactly like the CT scanner they used for my simulation. The CT didn't make any noise except like a loud fan. It's funny, I closed my eyes too during the CT scan, worrying about damage to my eyes. Silly. I'm sure if there were any risk there they would tell you, and probably also give you something to protect your eyes.

  • BrooksideVT
    BrooksideVT Member Posts: 2,211
    edited March 2013

    I just started.  My fear is always what I do not know.  I began to ask the techs to explain some of the scarier mysteries.  Probably what helped the most was knowing that when the machine buzzes, it is "beam on," but not emitting radiation during the whole buzz.  if you listen closely, you will hear it readjusting and during that time it is not treating you.  They also introduced me to the department head who spent a whole hour answering my questions and addressing my personal heebie jeebies.  I can't tell you how much my stress level dropped.    I guess this chat is available in all hospitals, and we just have to ask.

  • tuxtails
    tuxtails Member Posts: 39
    edited March 2013

    This coming Monday is the big day, I was doing fine up until now, but fear has set in. I am being treated on my left, so I am concernced about my heart, as well as my lungs. I keep being reassured all will be ok, I feel like I have done everything to be healthier and prepare mentally and physically for radiation, just to end up with heart or lung complications would be just terrible!

  • april485
    april485 Member Posts: 3,257
    edited March 2013

    tux,  I am afraid for the same reason. My BC is also in my left breast. Hugs and hoping all goes well!

  • Waitingforthenextstep
    Waitingforthenextstep Member Posts: 251
    edited March 2013

    May I ask a question?  I have not started rads yet, (this month).  How long are you actually on the table?  How long does one treatment take? minutes? any info helpful.

  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited March 2013

    Waitingforthenextstep - in answer to your question, I found that the further into it I got, the quicker it took because all of us (me and the techs) got better at getting the position correct quickly.   I'd say I averaged 10-15 minutes most days, but most of that was spent getting the position just right.   Boosts have been even quicker - more like 5-10 minutes.   The actual part where they turn the machine on is only a minute or two.    For my particular treatment, it was 22 seconds on, then rotated around to the other side (I was doing it prone) and then another 22 seconds.    Boosts are about 26 seconds but only once.

    From the time I walked in until the time I left (including changing) was about 20-30 minutes total.

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited March 2013

    I finished radiation 7/3/12.  Im fair skinned so I thought I would burn bad...but didnt!  I also didnt bother buying any creams or gels.  The rad onc provided all that stuff.  It was pretty easy.  I was on the table for a total of 10-15 minutes.  Easy peasy!

  • klp
    klp Member Posts: 1,770
    edited March 2013

    I had radiation treatments, about 33 back in '08.. Piece of cake..no burns at all, not even redness. After each treatment I smeared emu oil on...the only inconvenience was driving into town every week day for little more than a month...I'm just glad I didn't have chemo though..radiation to me was very easy.

  • FilterLady
    FilterLady Member Posts: 407
    edited March 2013

    Hi y'all,

    I'm a little over a year since rads and can tell you that it's not nearly as scary as you think.  My RO and the techs made sure I understood each step of the process from the simulation to the actual treatments.

    My treatments took about 20 minutes from the time I walked to the back.  First thing I did was change into a gown, then into the treatment room to get settled in place on the table.  The techs checking the marking and then the actual "zapping as I call it" was about 20 seconds, then the machine moved above for about 8 seconds, then moved again to zap for about 15 seconds for the first 28 treatments.  My center does x-rays on Tuesdays but they are done while getting treatment so no extra time there.  My boosts (7) only took about 10 seconds. 

    My skin help up very well.  I used cornstarch under my breast and arm per instructions since I couldn't use deoderant. I did get a little peeling and itching at about treatment 24 of 36 but I was given Radiagel at the beginning and used it after my treatment and at bedtime.  Then after the peeling I was told I could add Cetaphil lotion.  The worst thing was not being able to really scratch good when the peeling started.  Now that I'm all healed I told my RO that sometimes I scratch just because I can, lol.

    On the day of my final treatment my brother came up from the coast (185 miles away) so he could help celebrate the end of my treatments.  My DH bought a cowbell, painted it pink, painted my name and the date of my last treatment and had it ready when I came out front.  I rang that bell so loud that I think my other family and friends that live on the coast heard it as well! 

    A plus is that I have no hair or sweating under my left arm so I'm saving money on deoderant, lol.  I am just so blessed that I didn't have to have chemo and that I have a wonderful medical team.

    My advice is always to ask questions and don't be afraid to tell them that you feel anxious because they want you to be comfortable and to understand every step of your treatment plan.

    God bless y'all,

    LaDonna

  • april485
    april485 Member Posts: 3,257
    edited March 2013

    LaDonna, the story of your pink bell made me smile a huge smile. I can't wait until I am on the other side of my rads tx. How is the femara going for you now that you are about 6 weeks in to it? I know that this will likely be my next step after rads since I am highly ER+/PR+ and post menopausal. I meet with the MO on Tuesday March 5th and the RO on March 11th. That is provided my path report comes back clean from my lumpectomy. I find that information out on Tues March 5th at my post op appointment. Keeping fingers crossed. Don't want a re-exicision!!

    Rads are my future and there is not really anything I can do about it so reading about your experiences really does help me! Thank you.

  • dbm75
    dbm75 Member Posts: 20
    edited March 2013

    I just started radiation treatment last Thursday. I have had my first 2 of 33 total. My actual radiation sessions were absolutely no big deal. 5-6 minutes tops on the table itself during the process. I was a bit nervous before, but now I don't even give it a second thought after discovering how uneventful they really are (so far). Of course I've had only 2, so no side effects at all yet. And that may change from what I've heard, so we'll see how I feel in another month. Hopefully it'll remain no big deal! The simulation session, done the day before I started actual treatments, took longer because they were measuring and double-checking my tattoos to make sure the plan they'd created was good to go. I got two more tattoos at that session, so I have five now. They are so tiny I literally cannot see them, and really would need a magnifying glass to find them. But the techs know exactly where to look, and exactly where to find them. The simulation session took about 30 minutes total, and I had to lie very still during maybe 20 minutes of that time with my arms over my head, so of course, my hands started to go to sleep. That was the worst of it. Certainly something you can get through. My MRI months ago when this whole journey started was worse because I had to lay perfectly still face down for 45 minutes! I was afraid to even breathe for that one! So by comparison, 20 minutes isn't so bad. Other parts of the radiation simulation session were spent arranging me on the table and making sure I was comfortable with head and knee support. But once you have an actual treatment, it is way less time. I am in that perfectly still position for maybe 5 or 6 minutes max while the machine rotates around my chest and does it's thing. I hear four buzzing sounds, so I assume thats when the beams are being aimed. It literally takes me far longer to just change clothes (to put on their gown) than it does to go through the treatment. If it was summer and I didn't have to deal with a coat, and all the layers that I'm wearing because of the cold weather, I'd be in and out of there in 10-15 minutes, from the time I enter the building until the time I'm walking back to my car. A zip hoodie and front closure bra would shave off tons of prep time! I'm wearing the genie bras that were recommended by my RO, from Walmart, they are inexpensive, far less than a regular bra. If I could find a zip front, I'd be delighted. Hauling my genie bra over my head or pulling it up from my feet is a pain....it doesn't have a front or back closure...it's just a pull-on. And that whole process adds time, so I'm going to look for a front zip model. And I'm using a cream called miaderm, recommended by my RO. It was developed by Radiation oncologists for radiation patients. I had to order it online and it is pricey, but supposedly worth every penny. We'll see. So hope this helps with some of the anxiety you are feeling, it really has been fine. But again, no side effects yet bc I'm so early into it.

  • tuxtails
    tuxtails Member Posts: 39
    edited March 2013

    dbm75,

    You answered a big questions of mine! I was curious about my tiny tattoos that I got on Friday....I was so upset on Saturday because I thought they washed away and I would have to go through everything all over again! I just sat and cried and my husband said he would look and see if he could find them and he could, except for one.

    April1485, hugs to you too!

    Thanks to you all for sharing your experiences with the ones that will be starting rads soon. It does take out the "scariness" and you all survived as well!


  • crazyride43
    crazyride43 Member Posts: 154
    edited March 2013

    I had 33 rads treatments (25 whole breast, 8 boosts) to my left breast, and six months later I have no signs at all of any heart or lung damage.  My RO was very diligent about mapping my treatment and showed me all the scans, and also had me do a deep breath holding technique that pushed my heart completely out of the radiation field.  The only lingering effects are a slight soreness under my breast after a long day wearing a bra, and a tiny bit of "tan" left under my arm.  Each treatment only took about 10 minutes, mainly because of the breath holding.  from the time I arrived at the treatment center to the time I left again was usually around 30 minutes.

  • melmcbee
    melmcbee Member Posts: 1,119
    edited March 2013

    I finished last Wednesday. I had a hard time during the last 2 weeks of the regular radiation treatments with burns but my team immediately gave me silvadine and vigilon patches to help with it. The last 8 treatments were only boosts and did not radiate my burn areas. My burns healed before the boosts were finished and now less than a week later its like I dont even remember the pain from the burns. I would do it all over again if I had to. Hugs to all.

  • MsW2012
    MsW2012 Member Posts: 226
    edited March 2013

    It sure is good to hear these encouraging things. I am easing back into writing (theatre reviews) after chemo and finding it hard to concentrate. Hard to keep thoughts of upcoming treatment out of my head, but good to have the job to focus on. I can't wait to have the first treatment over with so the fear of the unknown will be gone.

    The techs at my simulation were also wonderful. I do wish I knew how often I will be able to see the RO to ask questions. I will be thinking of my sisters here who are going through the same thing. Thanks for being here. <3</p>

  • Yawls
    Yawls Member Posts: 39
    edited March 2013

    Hi msW2012,

    You are usually scheduled to see the doc once a week...doctor day. For the first four weeks that's all I saw him. Except in passing. The last week or so I saw him everyday. They are very careful about everything! My skin started to break down so they immediately treated with a couple of different things. I finished on the 22 of feb with. 34 tx. Took a week off work. And am returning tomorrow. I have skin everywhere and for the most part the itch is gone. I had a realization today...I feel better today than I did before I found my lump! I have lost weight eaten much better, cut out all processed sugar, I figured I could do that if it would keep the estrogen at bay...and have been exercising. You will do great, the worrying is so much the worst part...I think that's part of the reason I'm feeling good. Take good care of yourself, sleep a lot, it seems like forever, but it will be over before you know it!

  • FilterLady
    FilterLady Member Posts: 407
    edited March 2013

    April,

    I have been on Femara (letrozole) since January 20, 2012 so it's been a little over a year.  The on side effects I've had are thinning hair and hot flashes.  Not too severe.  And if I sit or stand long, I have little aches and pains that go away when I move around. 

    I guess I'll be on this at least another 4 years but at least I don't have breast cancer, lol.  I was taking my pill at night but realized that it was keeping me awake so now I take it in the morning. 

    I'm so glad that my posts help relieve some of your stress.  I'm sure you'll do fine and your treatments will be done before you know it.  It'll be your turn to ring that bell!

    BTW, I'm seeing my MO and RO every 4 months and will continue for a bit.  I know I'll see them both forever but perhaps I'll "graduate" to longer times between visits, lol.

    Take care,

    LaDonna

  • tuxtails
    tuxtails Member Posts: 39
    edited March 2013

    Hello all,

    I had my first treatment today and it went just the way you all said it would, non eventful. I was relaxed and the staff was wonderful, kind of strange hearing that buzzing, then the whirling sound though. Monday will be my "Dr day". He showed me the CT scans and reassured me about the heart and lung issue I was worried about. I hope for the ones starting treatment soon, you will be relaxed and all goes well for you too!

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