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  • volleymom77
    volleymom77 Member Posts: 92
    edited February 2013

    I still have three more treatments and then surgery. Looks like most of you already had surgery. I am so weak from the flu even after two pints of blood. I am kind of scared with surgery getting closer ugh.

  • Runnergirl2013
    Runnergirl2013 Member Posts: 83
    edited February 2013

    Thanks Nicole503 - I appreciate the inspiration - I really don't have a choice on the work and kid thing.  I am a single mom supporting my kids with no child support.  Ugh sometimes I feel empowered that I can do it on my own and other times it feels like a dark cave that I am that I have to do it on my own.  I truly truly appreciate each of you though I haven't been on the boards much writing - you all are inspirational to me.  Let's all dig deep and get through this the best we can.

  • Nicole503
    Nicole503 Member Posts: 295
    edited February 2013

    Soteria ~ Just a note to say I'm thinking of you today and hoping your final AC infusion was as straightforward as mine.  I'll save a spot in the AC #4 chemo cave for ya'!

    Be well.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2013

    Nicole~Thank you. I'll take you up on that spot in your chemo cave.

    We're almost done with the Red Devil. They were so busy today, they ran the cytoxan first this time.



    Bless you

    Paula

  • FriendGwen
    FriendGwen Member Posts: 177
    edited February 2013

    Bren -  very cool link you posted. How adorable is that girl?

    Runnergirl - Strep throat? Yikes! Glad you're feeling better!

    Bouncing off the walls in a combo of hyperness and fogginess thanks to three days of steroids. TGIF! Hope the weather cooperates as tomorrow I put my Realtor hat on and have three showings and two listing appointments. At least here in Maryland the market seems to be seriously turning around! By Sunday I will allow myself a day of rest and may take off work from Monday at that seems to typically be my toughest day. So not looking forward to the tastebuds going bad. It looks like I've put on about 5 pounds since chemo began and it's not like I don't know how that happened. Nothing tastes good so I eat anything I want to try and be satiated. Then I get the tastebuds back and so eat anything I want because it's so much fun! Gotta get a grip on that. Oh... and I've not exercised since my run three weeks ago when I pulled a muscle. So yeah, eating and not moving isn't the best for weight control.

    Good luck Paula on your last treatment!

    Volleymom - when is your surgery planned? Honestly the whole thing wasn't as bad as I expected. The tubes that you'll have post-surgery are a little annoying but not painful. Visit the surgery threads to get some good advice on dealing with them.

  • Sandra60
    Sandra60 Member Posts: 201
    edited February 2013

    Big Woops for me with the steroids pills . I did not realize it untill I read the bottle again but I had been taking half the require dose all these 3 treatments ( was supposed to take 2 pills rice a day and have only been taking 1 twice a day ). Well I've done just fine so not going to change - cant imagine being more hyped than I already am . Had to take 2 - 5 mg Xanax and a benedryl to sleep .

    No nuepogen shots for me again my rbc was normal and my WBC was high - maybe that is bc I run a low gradd fever every time around day 7-10 and it builds up my WBC ?



    Most of us are getting close to the end it seems and I am thankful for all your tips and encouragement . Starting to think about rhett month off b4 radiation . And then the tamoxifen - we will all have to share info on those pills !!!



  • Dawn1008
    Dawn1008 Member Posts: 31
    edited February 2013

    Hi everyone.

    Well, I survived AC4. It was nowhere near as awful as #3. The nausea lasted 4 solid days this time... I took my Zofran and Reglan to stay on top of it. But ive been trying so hard to drink more....the chemo nurse fusses at me every time. Now I guess I will go check out the weekly taxol board since that's next for me. I've had the heat rash and hot flashes every time with AC. My MO scared me about taxol (the steroid highs and lows, neuropathy, cumulative tiredness). So I want to see what everyone else has to say.



    Hope everyone has light SEs this weekend.



    Hugs,

    D

  • Dawn1008
    Dawn1008 Member Posts: 31
    edited February 2013

    Bren, hang in there. Nicole, Paula and I crawled the floors before you, so maybe you will find our path! Praying you will feel better very quickly! Big hug to you ~D



    Runner girl, how do you do that? I can't move on day 3 and 4. Just cover me up and let me be a lump, please! But I will have to join you now. My stepmom has been with me since I started chemo and she's leaving on Monday. Whaaaaaaaa!!!!😪😪😪😪. She's been such a huge help with the house and with my 7yo son. Now I will go back to being the mom, the wife, the cook, the homework helper and ALL that. I'm scared I can't handle it all.



    ~D

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2013

    Dawn~Great news to hear that AC 4 was easier for you. I had ac4 yesterday. I just had my day2 dose of steroids with toast & coffee.



    My onc told me yesterday before final tx, that I will get an IV bag of Benadryl and 15 mg of steroid before taxol 1 & 2, and if there's no reaction, no more pre meds for the rest of the treatments. The nurses will be right there though with emergency kit just in case.



    She also told me I can start on vitamin B6 today to get it into my system to help against neuopathy. Said, to wear gloves to do dishes or for working in any kind of water, to cut nails short, and to NOT USE MY HANDS AT ALL FOR WORK first day after treatment. I don't know if that is just first treatment or all treatments, but I understood it to be the first one.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • beckstar18
    beckstar18 Member Posts: 253
    edited February 2013

    Day 4 after tx#4 and feeling better this time around than after tx#3.  I actually got out to my son's basketball game today.  It was only an hour and by the time it was over I was beat and ready to return home.  

    I haven't had a period since starting treatment and now I'm having one in full force.  Kind of a nice finishing touch to add to the last tx, right??  I called my onco to make sure if I needed to watch for anything since it is very heavy, and she said if I start to get weak or dizzy to call back, which I have not.

    Hoping to get a good night sleep tonight, the last two nights have been pretty restless with lots of tossing and turning thanks to the steroids.  

  • donster
    donster Member Posts: 39
    edited February 2013

    steiner18- Congratulations on finishing TC.  What a wonderful feeling that must be.  I have 3 behind me and 1 in front of me and it is wonderful to know that you finished strong!

    Sandra60that is interesting about your steroids.  That 1 should work as well as 2.  I think I will ask my MO about that as those steroids are rough.  They do keep us wired and restless at night and it would be awesome to be half as wired and half as restless if that's possible :)

    It sounds like everyone is doing really well for the most part and that is great news.  I agree that it has been a blessing to be able to share info and get info these past months as we pushed through the chemo protocol.  

    Wishing everyone continued restful days and nights.

  • FriendGwen
    FriendGwen Member Posts: 177
    edited February 2013

    Hi ladies. My tastebuds from round four are beginning to go. This is definely my most miserable SE! I managed to work real estate for about six hours today which included a somewhat ok club sandwich for lunch. I'm beginning to crash but determined to hold on to normal for as long as possible so just told DH we'd go out for a pizza dinner. Maybe if I move quickly I'll enjoy it!

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited February 2013

    Sandra - That's so funny. I did the same thing with the steroids for the first three tx. I wondered why everyone was complaining about them. When I read the bottle and figured it out I did just what you did and  stuck with the lower dose for tx 4.

    Steiner - glad this round has been easier for you so far. Hope you sail through the next few days!

    I am feeling much better, thank you for your encouragement. I think the worst of the SE's are behind me for this go round. Now I am just trying to get my hearing back to normal from the infection and ruptured ear drum. Never a dull moment!

  • beckstar18
    beckstar18 Member Posts: 253
    edited February 2013

    Donster, best wishes for your 4th TC!  

    Sandra, I had such an issue with my steroids  after tx#1 that my onco cut the dose.  I was originally prescribed 2 pills morning and night, then she cut it back to 2 in the morning and 1 at night.  Coincidentally though, my worst chemo was #3, and that time I completely forgot to take my steroids the day after.  I wonder if that is why I went downhill so hard and fast with that tx.

    FriendGwen, I think the tastebuds are one of the worst parts.  I find myself eating just to be able to eat and taste something, which results in overeating lol!

    I must have eaten something disagreeable because about 45 minutes after dinner last night I was in the bathroom puking!  Feeling crummy today, my stomach is gurgling and unsettled.  I did keep some cereal from breakfast down but I'm paying for eating right now, that's for sure.

  • Sandra60
    Sandra60 Member Posts: 201
    edited February 2013

    Steiner - congrats on completing your TC treatments - whoo hoo !! Yes the steroids are rough - so I can not imagine coming down from the actual prescribed dose . I just think everyone's physiology is different in regards to how we all process rhea chemicals. The benedryl I take at night may help make up,for the lack of,the steroids - anti allergy properties - not sure . But going to stick with same plan on my 4th and final TC on 2/28 - yippee !!



    Bren - so coincidental we both misread the directions for the steroids . Maybe our bodies - sixth sense - was overuling our minds ? I think they call that "instinct " ?



    Well don't mean to brag but the weeks of sunny and 60 degree temps just seem endless here in nor cal- out for another nice walk today and hopefully something tasty later for dinner - friend Gwen - I agree the taste bud se is one of the worst !



    Donster - r u done with TC now ?



    Hopemu all,have a blessed and peaceful but fun day !!



    Sandy





  • Dwihtd
    Dwihtd Member Posts: 20
    edited February 2013

    Does anyone know if the herceptin that is given every three weeks is the same dosage as the weekly dose?

  • FriendGwen
    FriendGwen Member Posts: 177
    edited February 2013

    Hi gang. I have barely moved from the couch all day. All those day 3 post chemo SEs hitting me. Along with it I'm feeling rather gloomy. Since dx in September I have stayed very upbeat knowing this is something I will beat. I don't allow myself to wallow in self pity or indulge in fear. I used to write in a journal but have only written once as I don't want to explore too deeply. I had a fitful night of sleep and today have battled that fear and gloom I have been avoiding. Im so sensitive today to every nuance to cancer that pops up on tv or Facebook. I'm hoping this is all part of the steroids leaving my body and the toll chemo can take on us. I'm sorry to sound down. I just can't dump it on to my amazing family and friends who have been so empowering to me. I know I am doing everything in my power to beat this damn cancer and like to think it's already gone. Why today am I second guessing it all?

  • Sandra60
    Sandra60 Member Posts: 201
    edited February 2013

    Gwen - totally know how you are feeling.  I am on day 3 of TC as well ( well I guess day 4 if you count infusion day Thurs ) .  I think the steriods leaving have a lot to do with our moods  - I just feel darn irritable.

    I also know what you mean about not focusing too much on cancer - I thought about doing a blog or a journal but I just can bring myself to that point - for me I want to just move past it.  I do want to share feelings and advise though with nice ladies like all of you - it is all so helpful :) !!!

    You have an excellent prognosis - I know your Dr's have told you that and so do all of us . I am starting to think about the awesome shape I am going to get in when chemo is done and looking forward to all things active !

    I truly believe staying positive and active ( and keeping stress at bay )  will take all of very very far :)

    I hope you can get out and walk a bit or do yoga or something - it is so hard to start  but you feel so much better after .

    Sandy

  • FriendGwen
    FriendGwen Member Posts: 177
    edited February 2013

    Thank you Sandy. Your post was exactly what I needed. :)

  • SharonS
    SharonS Member Posts: 326
    edited February 2013

    Hi All - so glad to see the finish posts, having done this once I know how incredible it feels. I had AC 2 on Wed, Fri and Sat we're rough. Worst SE this time was that my skin hurt everywhere! Today things are much better. Had a great surprise when I went to our last BBALL game, my CC team had decorated my door and left cards for me. Then when I get home my son from Memphis is here. He had left to return to Memphis when I was in the ER in Jan. He is my worry wart and after all the complications he had to see for himself that I was ok.



    A very good welcome out of the chemo cave.

  • Bren58
    Bren58 Member Posts: 1,048
    edited February 2013

    Gwen, I'm so sorry you are having a bad day. I had that day last Tuesday. I was worn out emotionally and physically. This disease and the treatment SE's are just not kind to us on some days.  But we are doing all we can to fight this monster and get back to our healthy normal active lives. You are young, you are strong and you will get there! ((((hugs))))

  • LeeA
    LeeA Member Posts: 1,660
    edited February 2013

    I had "that day" yesterday and I'm at 2.5 weeks post chemo.  It was definitely what I call a dark cloud day.  It isn't as bad today but yesterday - well, bleak goes a long way toward describing my emotions. 

    That said, when I read your post from my phone a little earlier, Gwen, it really resonated.

    I hope tomorrow is much better for you.  

  • Nicole503
    Nicole503 Member Posts: 295
    edited February 2013

    FriendGwen ~ At least you made it to the couch!  I've been pretty much in bed all day.  My philosophy is that we have to allow ourselves some time to grieve during the treatment journey and it takes on whatever shape it needs to.  We can't be strong all the time.  Everything in nature has times of growth and times of quiet and withdrawal ~ why not us?

    I could tell it was not a "rolling with it day" today when a friend came over and we were talking about Mardi Gras coming up this Tuesday.  I love Mardi Gras usually ~ the whole concept of Fat Tuesday celebrations always strikes me as just what my spirit needs in the midst of rainy Oregon winters.   My husband made what he thought might be a funny comment about this not being an award winning bead year for me this year.  That was decidedly NOT funny.  On another day I might have been able to roll with it, but not today. Some days are like that.

    Wishing both of us a better one tomorrow.

  • MTJulie
    MTJulie Member Posts: 63
    edited February 2013

    It is always so comforting to come here and see how you all are doing. I feel like I don't have much to say to a lot of people. I feel like my husband tunes out any cancer talk and it is hard to think about much else when going through chemo, at least for me. Everyone here understands though. I am thankful to have you all!

    I am 2 weeks past my third treatment and still dragging butt. My taste buds came back but I am so tired! And then can't sleep at night very well. I hope I perk up in the next few days.

    Sandra-I started a journal when this all started but quit. After this is over, I don't think I would ever want to look back. My friend who had cancer 10 years ago says it is all just a hazy memory. I look forward to that!

    I have been trying to cheer myself up by planning my garden, buying some seeds and getting a chicken house in order for the chicks I plan to get this spring. And thinking about camping.

    It is hard to not have those bleak thoughts sometimes. I got a new passport and my first thought was whether I will be around in 10 years when it expires. Just need to remember that nobody knows that. Cancer just makes it seem more real.

  • donster
    donster Member Posts: 39
    edited February 2013

    MTJulie Oh we just can't go there.  We need to stay focused on getting better and beating this son of a gun.  Stay in the moment, stay in the now, don't worry too much about tomorrow.  Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow, and enjoy today. 

    Nicole503 You expressed it beautifully. We do need to grieve and that is part of this journey, but then we need to move on and heal.  I agree we cannot always grieve with our family we sometimes need to grieve all alone.  I wonder if the steroids, chemo and lowered immunity has pushed us to a place where we are more down on ourselves and life then we would otherwise be.  I am definitely a half-full kind of lady but even I have had those very dark moments and it's scary.

    I have my last round (TC 4) next week...I am home today with a sick 11 year old and am doing my best to take care of him and disinfect everything he touches.  Need to stay healthy to stay on chemo schedule.  That is my mantra.

    Wishing you all a great day today! 

  • beckstar18
    beckstar18 Member Posts: 253
    edited February 2013

    I hope everyone is feeling somewhat better today.  I know we all have our moments of feeling down, you can't go through this without those feelings.  It's important to acknowledge our anger, frustration, questioning, sadness, "why me?" moments--it's part of healing.  Who knew this time last year that we'd be going through such a thing?  But now that we are, and we are DEFEATING CANCER, who knew how strong each of us could be?  We sure know now!

    I stayed home from work today to give myself 1 more day of rest after spending the whole weekend with a severely upset stomach and bone pain. The weather here in KC was sunny and in the 50s so I even made it out for an afternoon walk with my hubby.  Although I was totally spent by the time we got back home!  

    Sandra, Gwen, Nicole....I hope you guys are coming out of the "bad" days post tx by now. Donster, congrats on your final tx coming up next week!!  I had mine last week, and ladies I have to tell all of you that once you get to/past that point the mindset tends to pick up a bit after you come out of the treatment fog.  Almost like I'm thinking to myself, "okay done with that, what's next?"  And knowing the chemo part (worst of it) is done makes anything else down the road seem manageable.  

  • Nicole503
    Nicole503 Member Posts: 295
    edited February 2013

    Thanks for the kind wishes Steiner18.  I am hoping to come out of the AC #4 cave tomorrow ~ definitely not today.

    I made a sad discovery today (and this may be way TMI but I'm not sure who else I could talk to about this).  I have been struggling with hemhorroids from the constipation that comes from each treatment and at this point, they are as bad as they've ever been in my life.  I religiously take stool softeners and senna after each treatment and I'm taking good care with sitz baths and tucks pads, etc etc but it is painful and does not seem to be getting any better.  I actually grabbed a mirror this morning to take a look at the situation and discovered that not only do I have a lot of swelling around my anus, I was shocked to discover that my outer labia look completely atrophied and practically MIA.  I have not had energy for intimacy for several weeks but now I'm horrified by the way I look.  Is this temporary or is this permanent????  Fortunately my MO is a woman so I feel like I can talk to her about this, but I'm wondering if anyone knows whether the changes that happen "down there" from chemo are reversible???

    Definitely a day to be gentle with myself.  Hope everyone else is a wee titch better than I am!

  • Sandra60
    Sandra60 Member Posts: 201
    edited February 2013

    Thanks Steiner - I am doing better this time ( treatment 3 out of 4 ) at this point .  I really made a point of " forcing the fluids"  - some with electrolyte tabs even in some of my water - and I think it has helped.  Still had the miserable - irritable  - can't sit down just have to pace, pace pace - Saturday and Sunday.

    Oh Nichole - that sounds so terrible !   I think you need a much much stronger laxitive - I tool Mirilax each night - day before Chemo and 3 days after and it has seemed to help ( could not find my stool softeners ) .  I suffer from hemmoroids too so can appreciate your situation.  Please call you MO or other Dr and  also have someone go out and get you something a bit stronger - no reason you need to be suffering like that !!  As for other problem you mentioned - I had not noticed that in particular but my DH has not had much in the sex dept from me.  I can say though we do use the vibrator ( is this TMI ?) to pleasure each other quite a bit - takes some of the pressure off and we both can relax.    OK that's my Dr Ruth input for the evening :}

    Hey December Ladies - thank you all for you help and support !!

    Sandy

  • PeggySull
    PeggySull Member Posts: 686
    edited February 2013

    Nicole, The constipation thing is horrible. If you can't keep up with it and it reaches a critical point drink a glass of magnesium citrate (flavored if possible) and cheap. Not great taste but i drink a gulp of coke or ginger ale in between gulps of the magnesium which helps. It will clear out the back up in 1 to 4 hours.



    I take an antidepressant that I'm not about to go off during this stressful period and I struggle to not get backed up all the time. The magnesium is the only constipation crisis tool I have found that works quickly and reliably.



    Good luck!



    Sandy, About your post about vibrators-- no it was not TMI--many if not most of us are struggling with our sexuality while undergoing breast cancer treatment. Anything that can help is certainly valued. Thanks for being so open.



    Peggy

  • beckstar18
    beckstar18 Member Posts: 253
    edited February 2013

    been kinda quite here for a couple days.  I hope that means everyone is doing alright and living life :)

    Nicole, did you ask your dr. about the changes "down there"?  I hope the hemorrhoids calm down for you.  I had some problems with that after surgery, got real backe up from the anesthesia and narcotics.  It was no bueno but I got some Milk of Magnesia which helped a lot.  I tried baby prunes but almost barfed-Yak!

    Sandy, no such thing as TMI here.  I think that's why most of us talk here about our BC "issues" because we feel that other women going through the same thing are going to be more receptive and understanding vs. our normal family/friends who aren't experiencing the same thing. I'm glad you and your hubby have found a way to make things work in the bedroom for the time being!  My hubby is patiently waiting, we've had sex 3 times since chemo started in Dec.  Being boobless makes it harder for sure, it limits a lot of foreplay and fun!  But I guess we'll just have to find new ways of doing things.

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