DCIS-mastectomy. contralateral now precancerous

Stix
Stix Member Posts: 723

Had multifocal dcis 2.5 years ago and post mastectomy. Now Atypical lobular hyperplasia in contralateral breast.  Has anyone had precancerous or cancer in the contralateral breast within 5 years of their first cancer?

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  • Merlcat
    Merlcat Member Posts: 177
    edited January 2013

    I'm only 3 months past dx so I am unable to respond other than to tell you that I'm sorry you're going through this - again. :(



    Hopefully, soon, someone with more knowledge and experience than I will answer you.



    Best of wishes

  • Stix
    Stix Member Posts: 723
    edited January 2013
  • crystalphm
    crystalphm Member Posts: 1,138
    edited January 2013

    I am not sure of the answer but I will share my story. Multifocal DCIS in left breast  2 1/2 years ago. Radical mastactomy resulted, no additional treatment.

    18 months later, 3 spots showed up in my MRI, and believe it or not, I had another MRI guided biopsy and the results were "inconclusive" I flipped out with stress and worry and had my second breast removed. The final result was precancerous.

    I am very content to now be breast-free. No reconstruction.

  • Stix
    Stix Member Posts: 723
    edited January 2013

    How old were you when this happened

  • julz4
    julz4 Member Posts: 2,490
    edited January 2013

    Viktoria if you read my signature line you will see my DX.  We are similar in that we both have DCIS & ER, PR negative BC.  If you read up on Triple negative BC (although your Her2 was not tested) you will come to understand that it is more aggressive.  The possibility of recurrence is at it's highest rate the first 3 years with Triple neg. BC.  Then the rate drops.  This can be a local recurrence or a distant one.  If I remember in my reading it more likely to be distant, or a higher rate of it being distant.  I know the chances are less with DCIS than with IDC but still I think it is higher than with Hormone receptive DCIS.  Especially given that our Grade is 3 (faster growing cells).  I had a Lumpectomy with RADS & mine was not multifocal.  I don't know if the chances are higher with a multifocal DCIS or not.  Even though you don't know the Her2 status of your DCIS it might be helpful to read about Triple Negative BC as apposed to Hormone receptive BC.  Also the Grade 3 makes our chances of a recurrance higher also.  I hope this helps some ..... although it doesn't ease the mind any better.  For me it helps to know what I am dealing with.  I am sorry your having to revisit this again so soon!  Have you had surgery yet?  Please let us know how your doing!  Hopefully someone who has been where you are will come along soon to comment!

  • Stix
    Stix Member Posts: 723
    edited January 2013

    Hi Julz.

    Yes, you are correct grade III multifocal is agressive.  I did get a mastectomy b/c it was mutifocal versus one area. My reoccurence rate for multifocal prior to my mastetomy would have been 20-25 percent. Now, since the mastectomy my reoccurance from those primary sites has been state in lit as little as 1 percent to as much as 7 %.

    I noted in your letter you wrote: The possibility of recurrence is at it's highest rate the first 3 years with Triple neg. BC.  Then the rate drops.  This can be a local recurrence or a distant one. 

    Where did you get the above info...I would love to read the article. My onocological surgeon said my risk was 1/2 percent a year.....

    Thanks for writing me  Vicki

  • Hopex3
    Hopex3 Member Posts: 397
    edited January 2013

    Viktoria1: there are some articles on this website under symptons and diagnosis. Then you scroll down on the left side to triple negative. You will find some good information there. So sorry your having to do this again. Keep us posted!

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited January 2013

    Vicktoria, I don't know much about triple negative invasive cancer (although I do know that it is more likely to recur early) but I've done a fair bit of reading up on DCIS.  I believe that Julz's comments apply to triple negative invasive cancer, particularly the part about "distant recurrence", which is not a concern for those who have pure DCIS.

    After a  mastectomy for pure DCIS, many studies have consistently shown that the recurrence risk, regardless of the pathology of the DCIS, is in the range of 1% - 2%.  The exception is those who have close margins, but even for this, the results are not consistent.  

  • Stix
    Stix Member Posts: 723
    edited January 2013

    thanks all.

    I will keep you posted

  • Stix
    Stix Member Posts: 723
    edited February 2013

    Had the second opinion of my slides....which proved to b e the same reading as the first. Atypical lobe hyperplasia of the contra lateral mastectomy. I am leaning toward a prophylactic mastectomy. QUESTION IF ANYONE CAN ANSWER. With the nipple sparing...what size does the nipple end up? The retracted smaller size.......ie....when you are cold or the larger size? And does the nipple loose the ability to change with temperature changes after the NS mastectomy? I have a tattoo on the mastectomy side..thanks

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited February 2013

    Viktoria, sorry to hear that the ALH was confirmed by the second pathology - but at least ALH is just a high risk condition and not anything more serious.  So you have time to decide what you want to do.

    I'm sure that some women who've had NS mastectomies will come by and be able to answer your questions, but it's mostly DCIS women reading here. You'll find a lot more women who've had a NS MX and who can share their experiences if you post your question in the Reconstruction forum. 

    Good luck with your decisions and with whatever you decide to do!

  • Stix
    Stix Member Posts: 723
    edited February 2013
  • Karen3
    Karen3 Member Posts: 307
    edited February 2013

    Hi Viktora1

    You will see from my signature that I have had contralateral BC. First diagnosed IDC triple negative Sep 2009. I had neoadjuvant chemo (which didn't work!) and then lumpectomy Jan 2010 followed by rads. By summer 2011 I had pain / symptoms in my opposite breast. I had a mammo and ultrasound and nothing was found! But I knew there was something wrong. They did a biopsy of the area and I was found to have 4cm Grade 3 DCIS and triple negative again. I then had a bilateral mastectomy and I am just over a year out of that. I have a BRCA1 mutation of 'unknown significance' but I am taking part in BRCA studies in the UK. As you are Er-Pr- it is likely that you too are TN and as you have had contralateral BC it's likely that you have some form of BRCA mutation. There is a 25% chance of contralateral BC with BRCA mutations. Hope this helps! You are not alone. I am doing fine now - hopefully I have seen that last of BC but my surgical team are keeping a close eye on me.

  • Stix
    Stix Member Posts: 723
    edited February 2013

    Hi thanks for the reply. Glad I am not the only one. But I was tested and I have no mutations in the gene. If I did I could understand it a bit better. I am not sure what the letter TN mean in your last posting. I am glad you are doing well

  • PeggySull
    PeggySull Member Posts: 686
    edited February 2013

    Hi, I don't know your HER-2 status, but if it is negative like you e and p negatives, the first 3 years after treatment are the time of highest recurrence, in part because there is no hormonal treatment like tamoxifen for hormone positive breast cancers. The good news is that after 5 years the recurrence rate for tnbc is less than other breast cancer types.



    There is a special populations thread called triple negative. There are some great people there who can tell you more if you are indeed triple negative.



    I wish you the best in terms of treatment (I'm in the middle of mine).



    Peggy

  • Stix
    Stix Member Posts: 723
    edited February 2013

    Hope your treatment is going okay. Thanks for the great information

  • Stix
    Stix Member Posts: 723
    edited February 2013

    thanks peggy,

    this would not be a reoccurance. This is precancerous and a different site in the other breast.

    :)

  • Cyn0619
    Cyn0619 Member Posts: 63
    edited February 2013

    Hi

    Sorry to hear you are having to deal with this again.

    I had dcis grade 3 in one breast and during testing the MRI light up in 3 areas on the opposite side. Had biopsies which came back negative but ended up doing bmx for piece of mind. Results from BMX showed pre cancerous cells in other breast so glad now I did both at one time. On non cancer side I had nipple sparring mastectomy and I think the nipple is smaller and less projection than originally. Not sure if that is always the case because found out afterwards it was my surgeons first time doing this surgery. You may want to ask your surgeon if he has done it several times before, I also have small area that is white that I think he scrapped more skin from. I've seen pics online that look better than mine tho. Was unable to do nipple sparring on cancer side cancer was too close.

  • indy4aloha
    indy4aloha Member Posts: 1
    edited February 2013

    Hello, I had a bilateral NS mastectomy recently.  My breasts look pretty much like they did before the surgery, although somewhat bigger thanks to the implants.  Your breast/nipple  will look the same as it does now and the nipple may have temperature sensitivity.  In some cases, however, the nipple doesn't survive the surgery because too many blood vessels are cut.  This is a know complication you might want to discuss with your surgeon.

  • Stix
    Stix Member Posts: 723
    edited February 2013

    Does anyone know how often the Nipple does not survive?

    Thanks in advance

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