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  • Hopex3
    Hopex3 Member Posts: 397
    edited February 2013

    Amy....I "nested" before surgery as well...Cleaned out everything.  Even bought new Undies and threw out the old.  I didn't want anyone to see my old

    worn undies.  Now, that I am in recover stage, I can't do a damn thing.  You can't lift your arms for a long while so Im very limited in what i can do.  But, when I get

    all better which I'm hoping I will be totally normal by September (have exchange surgery end of May) then lookout house, cause I'm going through you.

    BTW, what is a Mugga Scan?

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited February 2013

    Hopex3- A MUGA scan is a multigated acquisition scan (also called equilibrium radionuclide angiogram or blood pool scan)  which is a noninvasive diagnostic test used to evaluate the pumping function of the ventricles (lower chambers of the heart). During the test, a small amount of radioactive tracer is injected into a vein. A special camera, called a gamma camera, detects the radiation released by the tracer to produce computer-generated movie images of the beating heart. The MUGA scan is a highly accurate test used to determine the heart’s pumping function.

    Some patients have MUGAs or echocardiograms prior to commencement of chemo to see what the heart function is prior to chemo.  Then after the completion of chemo, the MUGA may be given again to see if there has been any heart damage from the chemo.  Usually, if one has Adramycin or Herceptin, these heart scans are performed.  I've had quarterly echocardiograms since I'm on Herceptin.

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited February 2013

    Melrose.... Fantastic job of explaining the mugga scan! Hell you schooled me! Lmao I am also on herceptin and now wondering if I will have quarterly scans hmmm.....



    Was also hoping any of you ladies have started your period again once off chemo? I am sure mine will return since I am only 34 but my MO said you really cant tell it just happens when it does... If it does...

  • Foreverchanged72612
    Foreverchanged72612 Member Posts: 223
    edited February 2013

    Amy: mine came back when I went on FEC! I freaked out but my oncologist did not seem worried in the least. I got a call today to schedule my "dry-run" for surgery. She said it was going to be pretty extensive and to block off 4 hours at least!! But the upside, she said, was that I would have nothing to worry about the day of surgery.

    Kelleyb: Thanks for explaining that to me. Hmm, I am wondering when they would want to do an MRI where I get treatment. Probably when they don't feel a clinical response to chemo? Don't know.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited February 2013

    Amy- FYI:  I got the MUGA info from the Cleveland Medical website .  You probably want to ask your MO about getting your heart checked out.  The reason I'm having quarterly echocardiograms is because I'm particpating in the B-47 Herceptin Clinical Trial which is to determine if HER2 +1 and +2 benefit from Herceptin.  HER2 +1 and +2 typically do not receive Herceptin since they are considered to HER2 Negative under Herceptin protocal.  One of the possible side effects of the Herceptin is heart damage.  The other reason to ask for the heart scan (MUGA or Echocardiogram) is that the some chemos (ie Adriamycin) are not gentle on the heart.

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited February 2013

    Melrose... I was like man shes good! Hahaha

    I had a muga done in the beginning and it came back with excellent results. I assumed she was doing another due to my surgery and being done with chemo. They stopped my herceptin till after surgery. But then it starts back up and I will get it till october. Im gonna ask my MO if they will do another one.

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited February 2013

    Forever.... I have my surgery rehersal tomorrow and they say 1 to 2 hrs. 4 hours seems long... I do think it will take some stress off though... Knowledge is power!

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited February 2013

    Forever.... I have my surgery rehersal tomorrow and they say 1 to 2 hrs. 4 hours seems long... I do think it will take some stress off though... Knowledge is power!

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited February 2013

    Amy- No way do I have that kind of medical knowledge tucked away in my head!!!  LOL  Wishing you the best on your upcoming surgery. 

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited February 2013

    Thanks melrose!

  • Cocobean
    Cocobean Member Posts: 135
    edited February 2013

    Forever love the new pic...my bmx was about 4 hours, with the tissue expanders placed.



    Amy I get an echo every four months since I am taking Herceptin. I haven't gotten my period back yet, my MO said probably will come back since I'm 36, but might not...I hope it does I feel like my hormones being all outta whack is effecting my metabolism. Curious too if any other ladies have gotten theirs back???



    BTW, got a prescription for Xanax after being dx....still use it sometimes...and found it very helpful before surgery, especially the day of and afterwards, my anxiety actually spiked after the surgery...so much better now, but just wanted to mention it b/c it was helpful for me...although after chemo the last thing I want to is put any more drugs in my body!



  • jojo2373
    jojo2373 Member Posts: 662
    edited February 2013

    Damiana, I think I may agree with your bullshit call on rads. The first 2 days after treatment I was exhausted. I came home and went to bed early then could not wake up in the morning. Today feeling a little better, but sleepy. I was blaming it on myself getting so wound up that the stress was making me tired, but maybe not. I am a little pink already, oh no!



    Forever, you look so beautiful!



    Amy, take some pics of your pre-surgery boobs. I took my before pic to remember. I am also taking hair pics to see the change weekly.

  • Toastiecat
    Toastiecat Member Posts: 132
    edited February 2013

    I'm 8 weeks PFC and still no period. I'm 28, so it should come back. I have been having some symptoms that used to correspond with ovulation the past couple of weeks, and I have been having fewer hot flashes, so hopefully it's coming. I went through the tampon aisle last night, and was like, "soon, my friends, soon..." Lol.

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited February 2013

    Jojo... Im all over the hair pics but will def take a few of the b4 boobs !

  • Hopex3
    Hopex3 Member Posts: 397
    edited February 2013

    Melrose..Thanks for the info. I did have an echocardiogram before surgery. I've just never heard of the term muga scan.



    I have eyelashes!!!!!



    I've done nothing today except watch HGTV...sigh...I almost can't wait to go back to work. It's lonely during,the day. I don't have small children and everyone else is at work.



    Forever...love your picture!

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited February 2013

    Im enjoying a glass of wine.... Why? Well because I can oh and the DH said he would get the kids off to school lol love him



    Hopex.. Whooohooo lashes! Flaunt them girl!

  • Faith-Focus-Finish
    Faith-Focus-Finish Member Posts: 124
    edited February 2013

    Sending good wishes to everyone!  It's been a few days since I've dropped by .. just catching up with everyone.  For all the ladies that have upcoming surgeries .. sending lots of prayers and positive vibes your way! You will do just fine!  You can do this!  It's one more step closer to the finish line.

    We all are moving forward - look how far we've come.

    I had BMX and tissue expander placement.  My surgery was close to 8 hours long.

    Hope:  One of my foobies is slightly smaller too - it looks just so 'off' to me.  I asked PS about it and he said not to worry.  It could be just because of the initial placement (under the muscle).  He assured me that the final result would not look anything like the TE's and not to worry.  I have my 3rd fill tomorrow afternoon.  The first one did cause me some pain.  I remember having a tingling sensation and I thought - no prob - I got this.  About 1 hour later, it really set in.  You may also feel muscle spasms.  I took valium as soon as I got home, but it was too late - the pain had already set in and I missed the window to get in front of it.  It took a long time for everything to calm down and then it was okay.  After I told a friend of mine what happened, she told me she took the valium 1 hour prior to the fill and she was fine.  She went throught all of this about 2 years ago.  I followed her advice the 2nd time around and I was fine.  Bruised, but fine.  Tomorrow, I will be taking a valium an hour before my appointment.  If you don't have any valium, call your PS and ask him/her to call in the Rx for you.

    Neta:  I like your analogy about the beam of healing light. 

    Amy:  Period has not returned yet.  Last treatment was Dec. 18.  I heard the same thing from my MO.

    Mariposa:  Great article.  You find the most interesting things!  Thanks for sharing.  I hope to get back to the (taped) telesummit.  The ones I listened to were really interesting.

    It's getting late.  I get up at 4:30am during the work week.  I can't wait for the weekend!!  I am so very tired ...

    Hugs to all : )))

  • Hopex3
    Hopex3 Member Posts: 397
    edited February 2013

    Faith...thanks for the tip...I will look in my drawer of drugs. I have Valium and oxycodeine. Valium is the choice. I knew I should hang onto these drugs for a reason. I've decided my foobies look like ciabatta rolls. Square and semi flat. I'll let you know how it turns out.

  • Cherioo
    Cherioo Member Posts: 305
    edited February 2013

    Jojo and DamIana I have been extremely tired. Thought it was because I did not sleep the other night but once I had radiation this morning , my honey and I ran a couple of errands and went to lunch. When we got home I went right to bed and took a nap woke up went food shopping then made dinner and I went to bed and fell asleep for another two hrs now I am up again but drained.



    Jojo have you felt any burning or achy under your arm ? My arm hurts the past two days will see what RO says





  • Mariposa123
    Mariposa123 Member Posts: 267
    edited February 2013

    Hopex:  I like that you haven't lost your sense of humor.   And I agree with Amy about flauting those lashes:-)  How much mobility do you have at this point?  Is it on both sides?  Just curious.  This is a very silly story, but a while back both of the handles fell off of our refrigerator.  We were going to fix it, but then thought that it was kind of nice because you had to reach on top of the door to open it- which meant my children couldn't sneak into the refrigerator and get stuff they weren't supposed to.  I realized last night that after my surgery, I won't be able to get into my refrigerator!!!  Oh no!  I better get that fixed.

    Faith: Thanks so much for the information you shared about your own surgery and what to expect.  I am learning so much from everyone here!  When is your replacement surgery?  is it coming up?  I will talk to my doctor about valium- although it tends to make me vomit.  Wonder if there is a good alternative.

    Amy:  Enjoy your wine:-)  I know you are getting closer to your surgery date (a week away, right?)  I am seeing you as my surgery big sister- you will go through it a week before me.  So I am on your heels learning from every question you ask and all of the information you share:-) Thanks!!!  And I will be sending you tons and tons of healing energy on the 13th.  Lucky 13 is right... that is the way I am looking at this entire year.

    Forever:  You are stunning with your beautiful bald head:-)  Is your surgery still scheduled for mid March?  I feel like everyone is having so much done with their doctors prior to surgery.  My surgery is in a couple of weeks and I still haven't spoken to my surgeon!  Last time I spoke to her was prior to chemo in August!  I am glad that everyone is sharing their experience so I can ask some good questions when I do see my surgeon on the 14th. 

    As for the Muga- I get an echocardiogram every three months since I am on Herceptin.  I have had two friends who have had to stop the herceptin due to issues that were seen on the echo.  I prayed pretty hard before the last echo.  I want to make sure that I can stay on the Herceptin for the whole year.  I am going to start taking Abana to protect my heart from both the herceptin and the radiation.  Jojo- I wish I knew of something we could take for our lungs!  I am going to keep investigating.

    Rad girls:  Praying you start feeling more energy.  Thanks for letting us all know about this part of the journey.  You are our trailblazers. 

    Toastiecat:  Your talk to the tampons was too funny:-)

    I love everyone's sense of humor!  I think we would have a great time in Vegas:-)

    Tomorrow I go in for my ultrasound and my brain MRI (my cognitive study I am in- looking to see if there have been changes in my brain since before chemo).  They are also going to be giving me a slew of cognitive tests.  I am going to fail all of those.   I play sudoku on my kindle and used to be able to do an easy puzzle in less than four minutes... last night an easy puzzle took me 40 minutes!!!  Yikes. 



     


  • florbo
    florbo Member Posts: 178
    edited February 2013

    Amy--I was on Tamoxifen for 3 years and Lupron shots for 1 year and that stopped my periods.  When I had my recurrence in August, I went off of Tamoxifen, started FEC in September and my period came over Thanksgiving.  Oh, it not only came, it flooded like there was no tomorrow.  My latest labs showed that I'm in menopausal range, so I don't think I'll be having a period soon, but will still be getting an oophorectomy later this year.

  • Hopex3
    Hopex3 Member Posts: 397
    edited February 2013

    Mariposa ...I can't lift both arms all the way up. Well, I probably could but I'm not suppose to. So, you better get your fridge fixed. It's amazing the things you cannot do.

    The side where I had three nodes out is quite sore under my arm like I have a huge razor burn. I see my PS on Friday so we will see what he says. I think he did a pretty big fill on me to begin with 210 cc's. I don't know though, maybe that is the norm. I never saw my surgeon either till pre-op. then I saw her a week after surgery and of course, I get lock jaw in there and forget to ask questions. So, I'm more prepared this time when I see my PS. I feel I've gotten so stupid during this whole process and it doesn't seem to bother me.

    I didn't know you were going in for a brain MRI....interesting study. I can't wait to hear the results. I know I would definitely fail it.

    Take care

  • Mariposa123
    Mariposa123 Member Posts: 267
    edited February 2013

    I don't think I will be getting another period.  I am 45, so my doctor thinks that I am probably done.  Makes me kind of sad.  I remember the period after pregnancy and nursing.. .the worse period ever!!!  It was like it was making up for lost time.  Sounds like that is what it was like when yours came back florbo! 

     


  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited February 2013

    Mariposa... I will gladly carry you on my heels ... We are on this journey together! I will promise to fill you in on all the details and will not sugar coat anything... We got this and we can and will do this!



    I have gained a BC sister thru facebook due to my cousin... She is only on her third round of A\C and has one more plus 12 weekly rounds of taxol... She is young has small children and has been hospitalized over the last cpl days.... What has caught me by surprise is this.. She is not even home yet and is sending me good vibes for surgery! What an inspiration.... All of you and her.... I love that all of you are in my life and world... I would be lost without you! Much love....

  • PatinMN
    PatinMN Member Posts: 920
    edited February 2013

    Mariposa, I peek in on your blog every now and then. You have a true gift for both art and writing. Thank you for sharing it with us.

  • jojo2373
    jojo2373 Member Posts: 662
    edited February 2013

    Cherioo - glad to hear you confirm what Damiana said about being tired too.  I don't have any pain or burning specifically under the arm but an overall feeling of "getting a sunburn".  My nipple is very itchy and I am lathering it specifically with creams.   I am working full-time and as of now do not see how I will keep up thru 6.5 weeks.  But "one day at a time".....

    FYI - I got a call from my genetics counselor and the hospital research program where I go is now willing to fund me participating in additional cancer research testing.  Last year when I went through all the paperwork and doing a ancestry graph on all my family cancer, the funds were gone for the year.  I will meet with them on 3/8 when I return for my MO appointment/port flush.  I will get a blood draw for the genetics testing then.  Their research is looking at what they are calling "cancer syndromes".  This is certain genetic defects which present in family generations as certain types of cancer.  These could be linked together - just don't have enough evidence yet.  I am so happy to be able to contribute something positive from having cancer!

    Mariposa - did you have ask your MO about Metformin?  I am going to next visit as the trial closed and I wasn't able to participate.

    Happy day to all!

  • patriciahurtado
    patriciahurtado Member Posts: 489
    edited February 2013

    Hope thank you!!!! I really hope it wil be ok...... I will have reconstruct ASAP!!!!!! ... I want them big.... Lol......



    Everyone here have so much great info and Melrose always teaching us .........



    Virtual hugs to everyone having surgery ..... I love waking up to you my sisters .... I read everyday just to see how everyone is doing......



    I do go back and read from the beginning of our journey and I see how strong we have become the past 6 month .... Yes 6 months has past by .... I read my own post and realize how scared I was then about my port and now how scare I am about my surgery......... I laugh about it and i get this weird feeling to read them again ...... And also gives me strength to continue....,



    So I went to my MO yesterday and she was very thankful for letting her know about the wrong chemotherapy .......... As always I got my beautiful wig and was very happy just to wake up..... Well I told how excited I was that chemos was over and that I can't feel the tumor .... She told me that it was to be exited but not to forget just because its not there that dosent mean I don't have it and plus my lymph node tested positive and it was 2.3 cm.... :(((((( really.....??????...... I told her that I know I still have surgery and 3 more chemos and radiation .... That I still have options and I will have hercepton for a year....correct????!!!!! Of course ladies I'm still fighting ......and that was at the beginning I will not know till surgery!!!!! I was little bit upset but ill take it day by day.... I will not have an MRI cause my SO said if I'm having BXM that I don't need one???? It's going to be remove....







    So I'm praying that the lymph node has gotten smaller or disappear .... Soursop don't fail me now!!!!!!



    I will go over my biopsy and see exactly what she's talking about I thought I had the tumor on my breast 2.3 and not on my lymph nodes it did test positive ... But I didn't know it was big on my lymph node.... U wonder if she made a mistake .... How can you measure a lymph node with one biopsy????

  • damiana9
    damiana9 Member Posts: 389
    edited February 2013

    Glad to hear I am not the only one so tired with the rads!  I am going to attempt to go do some shopping today.  I am very nervous about this because I don't know if I can stay awake! 

    Mariposa- good luck with your mri and tests! You will have to let us know how they go.

  • bearcub
    bearcub Member Posts: 485
    edited February 2013

    Amy I am also her2+., and am on herceptin. I have a muga scan every 3 months.

  • PatinMN
    PatinMN Member Posts: 920
    edited February 2013

    damiana, cherioo and jojo, I started feeling tired pretty quickly too, once I started rads.  I would fall asleep on the couch every night after I ate dinner, wake up long enough to go to bed, and sleep later than usual in the morning.  For some reason now that I've finished 23 of 33, I'm not so tired.  Just the last couple of days I have actually stayed awake at night before bed!  We'll see if that continues, but I'm doubtful.  Undecided

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