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  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited February 2013

    Kellyb... My tumor was 7.9cm at its largest and im 3 weeks post chemo tomorrow. My last MRI was wednesday and it showed no cancer at all. My BS called it complete radiographic response..



    How are you doing with surgery coming up? Im getting a bit more anxious!

  • Foreverchanged72612
    Foreverchanged72612 Member Posts: 223
    edited February 2013

    Kelleyb: my tumours were all over the left breast so cumulatively they added up to 6+cm. My oncologist recommend 12 taxol and herceptin (I'm her2+) and then 4 rounds of FEC and herceptin once every three weeks. Four weeks ago my MO said he felt "complete clinical response" or no tumour. The breast surgeon confirmed same thing. But I won't really know till after surgery when I get the pathology report back. One more round of chemo for me and surgery on March 21.

  • Foreverchanged72612
    Foreverchanged72612 Member Posts: 223
    edited February 2013

    Oh, sorry, forgot to say my bs doesn't want to do a MRI or ultrasound before surgery.

  • kelleyb
    kelleyb Member Posts: 94
    edited February 2013

    Amy - we are on the countdown!  I'm having an echo and a stress test this afternoon because I had a problem on my EKG.  Hopefully it's nothing.  My MRI showed significant improvement, one tumor evaporated but it looks like there is a lot of the original large tuor left, looks like it's behind the nipple and well off the chest wall.  Have reached out to my docs asking for short appt's to go over everything.  Never a dull moment!  I worry I have not had enough chemo - just 2 rounds TCH and 12 weeks Taxol/Herceptin.  They want to leave the AC for after surgery.  I haven't met many women doing it after surgery. 

    Otherwise I am ready, mentally.  Getting the house organized, etc.  How are you feeling?

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited February 2013

    Kelly is your cancer hormone driven? I heard somewhere if you are estrogen and progesterone positive your likely to have a better responce to chemo.. Never heard of getting chemo before and after. Hmmmm are you doing rads too?

    Im doing okay Ive been nesting like a mad woman! Mugga scan sceduled for thursday along with a dress rehersal for surgery. What type of surgery are you having? One of the main things that concerns me is a possible infection and the pain... :/

    Other than nerves I feel like I have most things in order.

  • kelleyb
    kelleyb Member Posts: 94
    edited February 2013

    Yeah, mine is triple positive.  I am on a course that includes "mop up" chemo - doing the AC portion after surgery to catch any strays.  I've been on chemo since September.  Yikes. 

    I'm getting a modified radical on the left with lymph node dissection.  I haven't heard of a dress rehearsal.  That's interesting.  I have a bunch more questions for my surgeon, hopefully she calls me back today.  Ready for it to be over.

    Yep - I will have rads, I think after the rest of the chemo.  Such good times!

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited February 2013

    Wow that is alot of chemo.... I too am triple positive.

    I guess this dress rehersal just goes over what to expect the day of surgery. Maybe it will ease the anxiety a little bit..

    Im hoping!

    Did you join the feb 2013 surgery thread? I just did today...

  • Mariposa123
    Mariposa123 Member Posts: 267
    edited February 2013

    Getting my herceptin infusion. It was supposed to be over ar 11- didn't even get started until 12:-( I am tired and hungry and want to go home.

    I saw this beautiful article in the NY times about poetry and cancer. The best part is all of the cancer survivors sharing their poetry in the comments section.



    http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/04/finding-poetry-in-cancer/#postComment



    I hope everyone is doing good today:-)

  • kelleyb
    kelleyb Member Posts: 94
    edited February 2013

    Amy, I'm on the surgery board, too, picking up tips.  Though I want it off me, it's weird to think that next week if things go well I will only have one breast.  Surreal.  We refer to it as my "shark bite" around here.  We've all got cancer fatigue.  :)

    Just got home from my cardiology exam - passed the echo and stress test so am cleared for surgery. 

  • jojo2373
    jojo2373 Member Posts: 662
    edited February 2013

    Happy to say less panic for rads #2 and more acceptance for things I cannot change. Hugs for all!

  • kelleyb
    kelleyb Member Posts: 94
    edited February 2013

    Forever, how come they don't want to do imaging before surgery?  How are they measuring response to chemo - are you having ultrasounds?  Just curious. 

    If I went by the "squeeze" exams my MO and surgeon gave me, I would assume nearly all my cancer was gone.  The MRI and mammogram I had recently showed a good but nowhere near total response to the chemo vs. the squeeze test assurance that it was surely 99% gone. There seems to be a lot of the original tumor left.  I wish they would use imaging consistently.  Why do MO's not do this?

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited February 2013

    Kellyb it is surreal... I keep trying to prepare mentally but I dont think the full effect will hit me till after. Ive come to the.conclusion that its just gonna take time to process... However I asked my BS for a sleep aid the night before surgery and she called it in. Thank god!

  • Foreverchanged72612
    Foreverchanged72612 Member Posts: 223
    edited February 2013

    Kelleyb: I know! I totally agree. My MO had thought I would be getting an mri but the bs said he didn't need one. I'm having a bmx so I guess since he is taking everything he will wait for the pathology report to see what if anything is left. so your clinical exams seemed to show a near complete response? In one sense I am curious to know how well the chemo worked but in another, I don't. If it isn't a complete response I prefer to find out after surgery.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited February 2013

    cgesq and other Tamox gals-  There is a list of drugs on the BCO.org main website which lists other medications that should not be taken with the Tamox besides Benedryl.  Here is the link for that: http://www.breastcancer.org/treatment/hormonal/serms/tamoxifen  Also, I've done a little research on foods that you probably should not eat if you are on Tamox-- grapefruit and pomegranates since they also affect the effectiveness of the Tamox.    I've had a few bouts with hives since starting Tamox and have not determined the origin of the hives.  However, I've been taking Zyrtec as an alternative to the Benedryl and that seems to work for me.  Hope everyone's side effects with the Tamox is minimal.

  • Cherioo
    Cherioo Member Posts: 305
    edited February 2013

    Jojo #2 was better for me too. I am just keeping the faith .



    All you girls having surgery, I know how nervous and anxious you are feeling. You all will do just fine. Once you get to the hospital and check in things will fly by and you will be waking up from surgery.

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited February 2013

    Thanks cherioo! I had a few whole body rushes today just thinking about it!

  • florbo
    florbo Member Posts: 178
    edited February 2013

    Wow!  I've missed so much since I was gone for a few days.  Hubby, kids, and I went to a cabin in the woods over the weekend and there was no wifi.  That was great, but then when the kids got tired of the hot tub, fishing, and playing cards, it was a bit tough.

    Timbek--can you hear me HONKING from TX?  Congrats!

    Amy--wonderful news on the MRI results

    QueenKong--how come you have to stop vitamins before rads?

    Patricia--so sorry you had the medication mix-up!  glad you caught it in time.  I had a girlfriend who was suppose to get Neulasta last week and they injected her with Neupogen and she was the one who caught it and asked the nurse. 

    Fight4two--your baby is so sweet!  Brought a smile to my face.  My dog barks when I put on my wig.

    Mariposa--I also have sharp, burning sensation at my tumor site.  My MO says it is the tumor dying from the chemo.

    cg---how are you feeling?

    cheerio--how are the rads coming?

    kidsandlabs--great news with the BRCA results!

    jojo--your new pic reminds me of the lovely Kyra Sedgwick.  I'm thinking that my lungs and heart are going to be in the field of radiation ;(

  • jojo2373
    jojo2373 Member Posts: 662
    edited February 2013

    Melrose - thanks for the tamox info.  I will be starting as soon as rads are done.  Glad to know you are still looking over our shoulders!

    Surgery gals - I know you have heard this from us all, but you will do fine and it will come and go so quickly.  You are mentally prepared and that is a big part of it!

    Florbo - A weekend away sounds great!  I haven't really done anything since 7/27/12 (a day that will live in infamy).  My left lung is totally in the rad path.  My RO said after she adjusted the range to me - well your healthy(huh, have cancer), non smoker, and you have your right lung (my face was priceless)!

  • patriciahurtado
    patriciahurtado Member Posts: 489
    edited February 2013

    Jojo I can't believe that your done with chemo surgery and on your way radiation.... I remember our first post and how scare I was with getting my port!!!! I'm so happy that you and the sister here have been so helpful... I'm will my 9/12 taxol on Friday ... I'm so exited to be finish with chemo soon but I know soon as I'm done with chemo surgery is right around the corner I decide it I wanna have BXM ... It was from the beginning of my DX ... I didn't know I was BRCA positive but I had decided on BXM....when my result came back positive I had no dough what I had decided from day one.....I think about the surgery a lot.... I just don't want any pain.... I am mentally prepare .... I will have my scars ... And proud of them.........its all in the mind ....I have seen pretty scars ...... I know that I will do fine just don't want any pain....



    You know what surgery means family back in town for 1 month ... My sisters mom and dad are coming I hope they don't overwhelm me AGAIN lol......



    Please ladies let me know if I will be able to tolerate the pain.., :(((

  • jojo2373
    jojo2373 Member Posts: 662
    edited February 2013

    Patricia, I know! I remember and will never forget this journey with you and the other sisters. I am amazed by what all we have done. I have not gone back and read our thread from the start yet, too painful now but will when this is over. Can't wait to celebrate you being done with chemo!

  • Neta69
    Neta69 Member Posts: 203
    edited February 2013

    Jojo and Cheerio, glad to hear radiation feels less scary already but sorry to hear about your lung being in the rad path Jojo. I tried to imagine the radiation as a beam of light, healing my breast and blasting away any cancer cells. It sounds dumb but it helped me stay relaxed during treatment.

    For all you ladies preparing for surgery; you will do great and you seem so much better prepared mentally than I was. I remember waking after surgery with this enormous feeling of relief that the tumour was out and the cancer gone!

    Patricia: Hang in there girl! Can't wait for you to finish your chemo. I too remember our first posts. Seems like a lifetime ago! You have come such a long way and the end is in sight now. Only a few more to go! You can do it.

  • Neta69
    Neta69 Member Posts: 203
    edited February 2013

    Oh, and thanks Melrose for the Tamoxifen info. I think the stuff that is in Benadryl is also in a lot of over the counter sleep aids (Nytol etc) so many of those are also incompatible.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited February 2013

    Neta69- You definitely have it right about Benedryl may be contained in some OTC sleep aids like Tylenol PM.  I always feel like when I'm out shopping for foods and OTC meds, I have to stand there for at least 5 minutes to read all of the ingredients on the container/boxes to make sure there isn't anything in there that I shouldn't have.

  • damiana9
    damiana9 Member Posts: 389
    edited February 2013

    Florbo- I see you are in Dallas, and had DIEP done.  Did Dr. Duffy do it?  Are you happy with the results?

    It's nice to see us all moving on from the chemo and doing whatever the next step is!

     Currently I am doing radiation.  I have 5 1/2 weeks of it.  I started last Thursday, so today will be my 5th tx.  I had heard it is SO much easier than chemo, and that you get tired but that doesn't happen until later in the treatment....I call bullshit!  The first day knocked me on my butt!  I was completely exhausted, and I can't really do much of anything- just too tired.  At least with chemo, I only had to show up one day- had a few really crappy days, then had a few weeks of being able to at least take care of my family.   With this I am just too tired, and it is every single day- at 11, so it kind of screws up my mornings and then in the afternoon I just sleep.  Heck, I am almost too tired to drive home!  Also, my chest is already very sensitive and pink.  I keep it lubed up but it still doesn't feel great.  Honestly, I would take 1 more round of chemo if I could get out of doing any more rads!

  • Hopex3
    Hopex3 Member Posts: 397
    edited February 2013

    Patricia...I had the BMX and it is really not painful. The leg pain I got from taxol was worse. Have you decided to have reconstruction at the same time?



  • kelleyb
    kelleyb Member Posts: 94
    edited February 2013

    Amy - well, I put my bras away (except for the one I am wearing) today, one step closer to donation!  Not sure what I'll wear as a uni-boob.  I will be taking Ativan the evening before.  Seems unlikely I will sleep, though. 

    Forever - alas, I did not have a fantastic response to chemo.  One mass disappeared but the main tumor shrunk just a bit.  I'm going to Philadelphia on Friday morning to see a specialist in IBC (inflammatory breast cancer) which is what I have.  It's fairly rare and there are some differences in how you treat it (for example, also neoadjuvent chemo).  The cancer gets into the skin and into the lymphatics, so they try to get as much of the cancer out via chemo as possible before surgery.  So...I faxed him my MRI and report yesterday and he called today to say he would like to see me to determine whether I should go ahead on Wednesday with surgery or do a stronger, different chemo.  ACK!  But he is the foremost expert on IBC and I trust him to do what will be in my long-term good. 

    This is why I get frustrated with my oncologist - the squeeze test exam is meaningless.  We need imaging every few treatments to know whether the chemo is working.  I did 12 weeks of Taxol where if we had checked mid course we probably would have gone ahead to the AC or Taxotere.  Rant over.  :)

  • florbo
    florbo Member Posts: 178
    edited February 2013

    Damiana9--my PS is Dr. Krueger.  He did an excellent job.  I have had many other surgeons look at my "work" and they think he did an excellent job.  

  • Mariposa123
    Mariposa123 Member Posts: 267
    edited February 2013

    Florbo:  How nice you got to take a break and go away with your family!  Hope you were able to get some rest.

    Patricia:  My mom and dad are coming for my surgery too:-)  I know they will be a big help, but I hope they don't get bored or expect too much from me.  I tend to be the caregiver in my family - so family kind of freaks out when the roles are reversed.

    So interesting that everyone is having different responses from their doctors around imaging.  My surgeon had said that she wanted an ultrasound and MRI - but then she went on sabbatical for the months of December and January.  I have been trying to get an appointment, and everyone seems mystified as to why I need one.  Kind of annoying.  I have a nurse navigator through my insurance and I told her what happened... so he started calling my doctors too.  She can be pretty persistent- so they finally said they would get something scheduled.. but that was two days ago, and I still haven't heard anything.  Annoying.   I have only had my doctor say that it seems things look great- but that is only from touch.  I agree with you Kelly - there should be some kind of imaging in the middle of our treatment.

    Jojo:  I totally agree with flobo- you do look like Kyra Sedgwick:-)

    Damiana:  Sorry the rads are making you so exhausted!!!  Hoping it gets better with time. 

    Hopex:  Thanks for saying the bmx isn't painful.  I am counting down the days and getting pretty scared about it all. - just like you Amy... I get those strange rushes thinking about it. I am sure it will even become more so as I get closer to the date.  I just need to be sure about my decision and breathe through those moments.  (Big breath)

    Kelleyb:  So sorry to hear about everything you are going through.  Like I said, I agree with you around getting some kind of imaging during teatment.  I am glad you found a specialist to look over your MRI and give you some information around next steps.  I know more chemo would suck, but you are right in that making sure you are getting the best treatment to keep this from ever coming back is the goal.  Keep us posted. 

    I went to my support group last night.  It was good.  There was an new woman there who was just diagnosed two weeks ago.  Luckily, they caught her cancer super early and she seemed to be dealing really well.   I can't believe how much has happened since I got that phone call saying I had cancer.  Or how much has happened since we joined this thread!   Thanks everyone for being here.  You got me through chemo- and I know you will help me get through surgery, rad, and tamoxifen:-)

    Sending love and light! 

     


  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited February 2013

    Jojo... I wonder how the RO would feel having their lung nuked? I understand we have to focus on what we do have but it doesnt make it easier when people point it out!

  • Amy4978
    Amy4978 Member Posts: 473
    edited February 2013

    Mugga scan scheduled.for tomorrow! Counting down the days....7 to be exact....Yikes!



    Nesting like I did when I was pregnant... Guess this is my way of dealing with it and it keeps me busy to pass time. Whatever works right?



    Thank you to those of you who have passed along words of encouragement or your experience to help calm our nerves! Keep it coming cause its helping :)



    I like the thought of rereading the thread once finished. What would be real cool is if we could print it!

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