I want to quit Aromasin

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I want to quit Aromasin
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  • vickyb361
    vickyb361 Member Posts: 26
    edited May 2010

    I know there are others like me who are having a terrible time with side effects to Aromasin. I'm trying to hang in there but I have 3 more years to go. I'm a nurse and have read all the studies that show how effective Aromasin is for decreasing the chance of recurrence but I just don't know how to last 3 more years. I miss my brain...I feel so stupid and depressed most of the time. I miss being able to move freely....I'm so stiff and achy that I have to stand a while after sitting in before I can walk. I miss the energy to do even little things....I'm always feeling fatigued. I miss sleeping....I wake up many times a night either from hot flashes or just unable to stay asleep. I miss enjoying life....I don't find joy in anything anymore. And here's one that I haven't seen anyone list before: I now have chronic nasal congestion that I have never had in my life. Maybe its from the fluid retention I seem to alway have.

    I took a one month break from Aromasin back in March and began to feel so much better but then went back to taking it in April because I can't deny the studies and I want the best chance I can get. My oncologist said I can go back to Tamoxifen, but I have remained in "chemo"-pause for two years now, so Aromasin is better for me.  

    Has anyone stopped hormone therapy a long time ago and not regretted it? Part of me feels irresponsible wanting to stop because if the cancer comes back then I didn't do everything possible to prevent it. I have a husband and three daughters, my youngest is 13, and I don't want to put them through the stress of me having cancer again and having to care for me. My youngest daughter asks me to keep taking the Aromasin because she is scared for me not to. 

    I'm sure I'll continue to take it. I guess I just needed to vent to people who will understand.

    Thanks 

  • mawhinney
    mawhinney Member Posts: 1,377
    edited May 2010

    Sometimes you have to consider the quality of your life.  First I took Arimidex but after a year developed severe sores in my mouth and on my jaw.  Onc switched me to Aromasin. Lasted about a year & then developed bone aches and pains and bone density test  showed I had osteoporosis.   Onc said Aromasin & other AIs are hard on the bones. About 2 months ago I switched to Tamoxifen. The hot flashes are worse than what I had with Aromasin & I thought those were bad.  Seems like were in a damned if I do and damned if I don't situation. Frustrating!

  • knowledgeforpower
    knowledgeforpower Member Posts: 184
    edited June 2010

    I am 59 and was diagosed last year. I stopped taking Aromasin on April 13, 2010.  I started it on May 31, 2009.  I finally told my onc I would rather do 4 more rounds of AC than 4 more years of Aromasin.  I had joint pain and felt tired and depressed.  I started taking Tamoxifen.  I feel like a different person, my energy has returned and the depression is gone....  With the Tamoxifen I have slight hot flashes but that's it.  My onc told me Tamoxifen is about 2-3% less effective than an AI.  For me my quality of life is worth the slight difference.  I know many women are able to stay with an AI and some oncs don't recommned switching to Tamoxifen.  It's a personal decision and I wish you luck in deciding.

  • lovemyfamilysomuch
    lovemyfamilysomuch Member Posts: 1,585
    edited June 2010

    I have stopped taking Arimidex for side effects listed below.  I have not told my family.  I was miserable on it.  I feel guilty and scared, but I have been off for about f2 1/2 months.

  • debbie6122
    debbie6122 Member Posts: 5,161
    edited June 2010

    I wasnt able to take any of the 3 either because of severe bone pain and aches like you all mentioned, I too have not told any one not even my husband, it is not even a little tolerable for me, had the same problem with the boneva  I feel so guilty and scared too, and to imbarresed to tell my oncologist I know it is the choice between that and or hoping that there is no recurrance but I guess i just have to take my chances and hope and pray it dosnt return, other wise I would be bed ridden and that is no life either

  • orange1
    orange1 Member Posts: 930
    edited June 2010

    I suggest considering taking tamoxifen instead.  It has a different side effect profile and may be more tolerable for you while still providing very good protection against recurrence.  Its certainly better than nothing.

  • Sue227
    Sue227 Member Posts: 88
    edited June 2010

    I started Aromasin 3 weeks ago after being on Femara for 11 months and stopping after horrible side effects, felt like I was 90+.  Took a month off and felt great the 4 week but like the others felt guilty so I started the aromasin.  The side effects have returned with a vengence!  I didn't take it yesterday and I'm not going to take it anymore.  My onc says I can go back on tamoxifen, I took it for 2 1/2 years before the femara.  I feel like I shouldn't complain, should just be happy there is something out there to help with the fight but it is a quality of life thing.  Chemo was so much easier than these AI's.  I want my life back!  Don't know what I will end up doing but I am leaning towards the tamoxifen.  It is only a few percentage points different but so much easier to take. 

  • SusieMTN
    SusieMTN Member Posts: 795
    edited June 2010

    vickyb361 Have you spoken to your Onc?  Why not go back on Tamoxifen?

    I too have taken a break as suggested by my Onc. and honestly it has been the best month I have had in a while.  You are right the side effects make this hard to deal with.  He has suggested I go on Tamox.  I am going to try it as being stage III I too don't want to put family, friends etc... thru another Cancer ordeal.  I am not willing to risk it.  I read something recently somewhere on the Internet by a doctor who said that patient compliance was much greater when the side effects were properly managed. 

    Can you not talk to your Onc. and get him/her to help solve your issues?  AI's are hell.  I get the whole quality of life issue, trust me Arimidex and Aromasin have created a life for me that isn't fun, pain even with meds is very painful.  

    Anyway (((((((((Big Hug)))))))) wishing you the best.  

    S

  • vickyb361
    vickyb361 Member Posts: 26
    edited June 2010

    Thanks for the replies, everyone. I'm not the only one who feels guilty! I've read a few stories about the cancer returning in women who are on Tamoxifen so I guess that makes me scared to go back to it. I hate living with guilt and fear in addition to pain and suffering. I am going to talk again with my oncologist about going back to Tamoxifen. I'll call her today.

    I am a Christian and feel all of the medical advances we have today that save and extend life are blessings from God, so that is another issue for me. By going off Aromasin, am I not taking advantage of a blessing from God? I don't expect anyone to answer that for me. Just thinking out loud!Smile

    Thanks again for all your replies.  

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited June 2010

    I took AI's for 3 1/2 years and struggled the whole time.  Finally in mid March, my onc gave me a 2 month break....when I saw my onc a week ago, the first question he asked me was how ws I doing off the Aromasin...we talked about all the positives.....long story short, for now (and maybe for the long hall), I'm not going back on AI's.  QOL has to count for something.  I am 54; its been 4 years since Dx and my kids are 12, 21 and 24 (newly married).....I will write more later...Karen

  • tkw50
    tkw50 Member Posts: 7
    edited June 2010

    Aromasin is an an aromatase inhibitor just like Arimidex, and Femera.  Femara gave me the blues, being bone pain.  I tried Arimidex and I tolerated it much better.  My advice, try another one, but DO NOT quit.  You will be asking for a reoccurence.  I know people who quit, and lost the other breast or got bone mets and one died.  Do what I did "suck it up."  Have your Vit D level checked.  60-70 range helps with pain.  Mine was 14, when mine was first checked.  I had to take 50,000 units per week to get it up and 2,000 units per day to keep it that way.  We live and die by our decisions, so make an informed one.  Best to you and your family.  9 year IBC survivor

  • Alcie1
    Alcie1 Member Posts: 68
    edited June 2010

    I'm recovering from trigger finger surgery last week on three fingers, which I suddenly got after taking only three pills of Aromasin. (Typing's really hard with hand heavily bandaged.)  I had previously taken Arimidex which I couldn't tolerate after only a month.  Femara was better.  I lasted half a year on that one before feeling so arthritic and in such pain that I had to quit it.  Aromasin was far worse for me.

    Some people do just fine on one or another of the aromatase inhibitors.  Some just live with the pain.  I don't have a great expectation of living more than a few more years and prefer to actually LIVE. 

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited June 2010

    I quietly quit my Aromasin about 4 months ago. I'll tell my onc when I see him next month. I didn't realize how much pain I was having until it all went away. No more limping when I walk or run. Much less hand pain after climbing. My brain is sharper, my sleep is way better, and I'm better able to metabloize my calories.

    Quality of life is important to me. Life itself is important, but I demand quality. Or at least minimal pain.

    I took Femara for 4 years after my first diagnosis. A year later, a new primary, and a "do-over" for meds. But two years of this one has been enough. I'm done. I feel a twinge of guilt, which is really unusual for me, but that's subsiding, too. So, I'm working on eating well, exercising, and reducing my body fat. These I can control. I'll take my chances.

    Anne

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited June 2010

    to continue my previous post.......I did my best for 3 1/2 years to tolerate the AI's....I've tried all 3 as well as tamox....thanks to Arimidex I developed bilat CTS....had surgery on one hand and while waiting for the other hand went off AI's and tried tamox and low and behold the CTS went away....On Aromasin developed severe deQuervanes tendonitis and had surgery on both wrists....Thanks to AI's, joint pain, insomnia, depression, anxiety, cognitive functioning issues, memory concerns and the list goes on.....I have now been off the AI's (Aromasin) and so many of the side effects are resolving or lessened.....Am I the same person as before BC....no, but I am better than when on the AI's.  Of course my onc would prefer that I go back on the AI's (or tamox) but he is supporting my decision to not take AI's at this point in time.  I am still on a 3 month schedule with my onc. I do not feel guilty at all about stopping AI's.....I know people who have recurred on AI's....so there is no guarantee....yes, they do increase disease free survival, but they do not guarantee it....For now, QOL is quite an important issue for me....I have given this a great deal of thought and I want to LIVE, not just go through the motions....I want to enjoy life even if it means a few less means (and maybe no less years)....we all have to make the best decision we can....I think the key is feeling good about the decision we make.  Vickib361...I wish you peace and comfort in your decision.   Karen

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited June 2010

    Karen, I know what a struggle this has been for you. I applaud you in yur decision. Here's hoping the aches all go away and you can finally get back to enjoying life. You deserve it!

    We all do.

    Anne

  • Jo_Ann_K
    Jo_Ann_K Member Posts: 277
    edited June 2010

    Just another perspective.  I have been on Tamoxifen for 1-1/2 years. When I started, I was still getting my periods, but now I am in active menopause.  I asked the oncologist whether I should switch to Aromasin, but she said she will keep me on Tamoxifen for the full 5 years, because I have had minimal side effects.

  • Texgirl
    Texgirl Member Posts: 211
    edited June 2010

    I am now 5.4 yrs out and currently on Aromasin....I was initially on Tamox. then later on Arimidex...I felt like I was 100 yrs old ! 

    My switch to Aromasin has been so positive that I will continue it for any additional time that my Onc. suggests.

    Please keep trying different A.I.'s we all respond so differently even though they are in the same drug family. My onc. and Gyn  have said in the past that women have seemed to respond quite favorably to Femara..when the others have caused an issue...

    It took about 3 months off Arimidex for my issues ( carpal tunnel,severe joint pain,etc to go away...) So I know what you all have been enduring....just please see if something else is not available for you to try.. I am sure that it has contributed immensly to my NED status..

    Good luck ! 

  • vickyb361
    vickyb361 Member Posts: 26
    edited June 2010

    Thanks for the additional replies, ladies. I really appreciate hearing others stories. I haven't been able to talk to my oncologist yet so I'm not quitting the Aromasin until I can. Hopefully on Monday. I'm willing to try another AI. Maybe going back to Tamoxifen would be ok. I know I'm menopausal now, but before there were AIs there was Tamoxifen. 

    I am curious to know that for those women who stopped AIs and cancer came back what was their initial diagnosis? Can't find any study on that. I know a couple of older women who had breast cancer 25 and 30 years ago and no return and never took hormone blockers. Both had mastectomies and lymph nodes removed. Neither one was sure if there was lymph node involvement or not.  

  • deborahann59
    deborahann59 Member Posts: 2
    edited June 2010

    Thank you for  sharing that. I too am on Arosamin for only two months 2 time with bc.  I have depression with it, hair thinning a big thing, not sleeping and some weight gain only 2 lbs. I stopped taking it for now. I have tried to tell my onocogist this but he doesn't seem to matter to him. Fermara I would not take because of weight gain. I was on Tax for 2 yers and taken off and switched to Ameridex for about 8 years. That is when I had breast cancer in the 2nd breast. I have had two mast one this last November.  Deborah

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2010

    This topic is so near and dear to my heart. It's been 4.5 years. I know I'm almost to the 5 year mark, but I am deciding to stop. There are many times I've looked back and wondered what my life would have been like had I stopped earlier. As it stands, my onc and team have been great "keeping me on," the Arimidex (I tried Femera, also). I have pain meds (or I literally could not walk), I went to cancer counseling to help with feelings of anxiety, anti-depressants, etc. It is quite a regimen to keep up just to keep up the AI. And still, I'm just barely having decent QOL. I had to quit my job, I feel that I've lost a lot of my cognitive skills, flirting with depression, etc.

     I just visited with the Orthopedist yesterday because the knees are so bad I can't continue "vertical living :)" in our house. He believes it is mild arthritis and mostly a result of the AI. I think it is time for now. I've fought that good fight. It is what is right for you. Like I said I do wonder if life could have been much better had I not tried to last this long, but, as you all have said, it is important not to look back, just forward. I was stage IIIc. I guess that was part of the guilt.

    If you would have asked me 3 years ago, I would most likely have told you to hang with it seeking alternative therapies (holistic meds, pain meds, and the other treatment I received), now, hmmm. Not sure my advice would be the exact same. Good luck whatever your decision. When you do decide, though, live it large - seek all the help you can get for your body on the AI, or go have great QOL if you've decided it is time for you to stop. Don't look back.

  • jodstasik
    jodstasik Member Posts: 1
    edited June 2011

    This topic is so hard to discuss with anyone in my life.  Everyone feels like you are cancer free, you should be happy and feeling great.  The down side if this hormone blocker Aromasin, I feel like a 90 year old lady, I have bags under my eyes that are permanent.  My legs feel awful, achy, weak, very painful.  I cannot start my day without pain medication.  I was dx @ 28 with stage 3b, had a double mastectomy, with two lymphodes removed, did 11 rounds of chemo, taxotere, avastin, gemzar, ac.  I di 6 weeks of radiation, just finished exchange surgery.  I also just had a salpingoopherectomy, ovaries and fallopian tubes removed due to BRCA 2 + and complex cysts developing.Now these hormone blockers, make me so tired and hurt, do I need to be on them at all?  They have removed everything, I am in full blown menopause at 30, with these horrible pains, wi,ll life ever not hurt, does anyone get it, I feel very alone and sad.  I usually I always positive but this is zapping me to the core.  Thanks for anyone to listen.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2011

    I'm taking Aromasin after trying Femara and Arimidex.  For me, Aromasin is better than the previous AI's but that's not really saying much.  Many of your comments hit so close to home.  It finally feels like validation to what I've been feeling for so long.  I'm miserable on Aromasin and plan to tell my oncologist that I'm going off.  My appt is Thursday - I can't wait to start living.  Oh - I have chronic nasal congestion, too!  Can't believe someone else mentioned that!

  • dogsandjogs
    dogsandjogs Member Posts: 1,907
    edited June 2011

    Mabry: That's interesting about the nasal congestion. I have had it really bad for a month (that's how long I've been on Aromasin) The doc thinks it is an allergy - I have like a cyst inside my nostril. But I've never been allergic before.

    I have one bad hot flash at night - but that's nothing. Very stiff fingers and cramping and  in fingers, toes and calves. Sore knees ---and have gained about a pound a week.

    But the worst thing is mood swings. As I've mentioned elsewhere I will feel really energetic and upbeat and then an hour later I'm so depressed and exhausted.  It is very strange. I'm never had mood swings that changed by the hour! 

    The only other thing is, my vision is kind of blurry on and off.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2011

    I have another very strange sympton and am now wondering if it could be a side effect of Aromasin, too.  I constantly smell cigarette smoke.  I don't smoke nor am I around people who smoke.  Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited June 2011

    Ok maybe I shouldn't have read all your responses....but... I will have to make a decision in about a month. I am very concerned hearing everone's stories... I have to work because we are on the verge of bankruptcy and tried going back to school to maybe get a bump up in my field... I have 2 classes left and if I have an cognitive issues this will be a problem for me... Man - I don't know what to do!

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 13,369
    edited June 2011

    Ditto Gma...................my Femara is sitting on the counter since I finished Rads 1 week ago..........the MO said don't start Femara till Rads are done.........................I'm sure its because when I get the fu---ng SE's she will know what is causing them.

    I am fed up sick and tired of the bullshit............at 76 I'm thinking of taking my chances and going without..........had a Estrogen/Progesterone test done today to see how much of this hormone shit I have left in my body ............lets face it at 76 what the hell could be there...............don't want to start this crap, yet who the hell wants to die......................although i think half the women who die while on this shit die from another cause instead of BC, but the cause of death was a SE from the frigging AI that they put you on.

    Like I said on another thread.................Oh what a shame, she had a heart attack, or a stroke, or diabetes, which the AI caused, but........................hey she didn't die from a recurrance.........................sure makes the drug look better doesn't it...........almost makes you think it is working..........gotta love those pill pushing drug companies and their bullshit stories..............worked for one for 15 years, so I know all the lies they tell.

  • NoFearGodisNear
    NoFearGodisNear Member Posts: 2
    edited January 2013

    For the past 5 years, I've tried Aromasin, Arimidex, Fermara, and Tamoxifen.  The first 3 had terrible bone pain and aches.  I felt the best with Tamoxifen until I started spotting.  (I'm 61).  I had a biospy and put back on Aromasin.  I've now stopped it on my own because I couldn't take the pain in my legs and hips any more. 

    My doctor and I have been discussing a series of injections of Faslodex.  My insurance just approved it.  I will take 2 injections at a time for a series of 6 injections over two week intervals then 2 injections monthly.  He tells me this medicine is thick and takes longer to give the injection which may be painful.

    This is my last resort.  I hope it works with out the bone pain.

    I documented my journey in a book.  www.byebyetata.org

  • Mommaof2
    Mommaof2 Member Posts: 112
    edited January 2013

    Hi Vicky,

    I just wanted to tell you that I just switched back to tamoxifen after switching to Arimidex.  I didn't even last two weeks on it.  I felt that it was going to turn me into an old woman, when I'm not even 50.  I too, would like to quit taking all medications, but I have an 8 year-old and a 12 year-old, so, for them (and my husband) I will stick with it BUT I am not going to continue after my five years are through.

    Even though you weren't asking for a reply, I wanted to comment on your question of taking advantage of a blessing from God - I've had this on my mind for quite awhile and I believe that we should do what we can to keep from having a recurrence - but I believe our outcome with BC is in God's hands and I don't think HE would want you to be miserable.

    Blessings to you and your family.

  • jude14
    jude14 Member Posts: 293
    edited February 2013

    I went thru what you all are doing and kept saying I am going to quit. I tried all three of the AI' s and was afraid of tamoxifen on account of blood clot stroke family history. I did not want to take anymore chance on joining them. I finally made the five years right at two months ago. Sleep is better Hot flashes are better. My hair is doing lots better. I am still having the problem loosing weight and the joint pain. Arthritis runs in my family and I am afraid that femara brought mine out and made it worse. Things do start getting better though when you finish so do whatever it takes to finish.



    I used to say God will see me thru so I am quitting and people would say yes, he gave you those pills to help you thru. He helps those who help themself, he will not put more on you then you can handle. Okay enough preaching... :-))

    Take it one day or week or month at a time and before you know the 5 years are over.



    Hugs prayers and strength to all of you. Hang in there

  • debsie1
    debsie1 Member Posts: 74
    edited February 2013

    Can I ask you how long you will be on Aromasin??? I am 6+years out....took 2 years of Tamoxifin and 3 years of Aromasin. I completed 5 years exactly one year ago.  I have asked my oncologist if he thought that I could resume Aromasin for a few more years as I want to make sure that I get all the protection that I possibly can...he said that there were no conclusive studies ane the decision wold be mine. I am  seriously thinking of restarting after a one year break. Any thoughts???

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