January 2013 chemo group

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  • LeeA
    LeeA Member Posts: 1,660
    edited January 2013

    Virginia, so sorry to hear you've had a rough go of it but happy to hear you're feeling a bit better.  

    I had the Neulasta shot as well with this most recent round and my WBC was 1.6 today.  Wow, it's hard to imagine what it would have been without the Neulasta!  For round one (without Neulasta) my WBC was 1.9 at one week and then 1.8 at week two.  The MO says come back in two weeks and even said he would rearrange chemo because of Valentine's Day.  I told him every day is Valentine's Day with my husband (awwwww) and I'm just ready to sit my behind down in that chair on the 13th and get another one under my belt.  

    Oliverhog, you look great/beautiful!  Good news with Peyton re: the doctor being satisfied with things thus far.  

    Skimommi, looking forward to checking out the video after tonight's walk.  Boxers can be such clowns!  And they really do use their paws like hands!  

    LynneNJ, welcome to the board and I hear you on scars/baldness.  I really like the Buffs because they feel good on the head and do a pretty good job of covering some scars I have on my temples.  Wishing you good luck with the chemo.  It sounds like you've really had a time with Lyme disease!

    Amrdbit, sounds like you're making the best of treatment day!  Have fun with your visiting friend! 

    gr8flmama, ha!  I think this truckstop prostitute would scare away all the customers the minute the buttons popped off and the scarf fell away!  I also thought lounge lizard started with Jim Morrison of the Doors but I really don't know.  Maybe he was referred to as a different kind of lizard...

    Paula, I hope you're feeling better today.  Wow, I felt so bad for you when I read your post about just getting the energy to get into the house!  The only silver lining I can think of is that surely this means that the chemo is in there kicking the a$$ of every stray little cancer cell that might be lingering around.  Right now I'm thinking of that sort of overused Nietzsche quote:  that which doesn't kill us only makes us stronger.  I know you're counting the days/hours until you're finished with AC (I'm not good at keeping track of who is where with treatments but I'm hoping you're in the home stretch!). 

    ziffy, I haven't noticed too many hairs in my panties but when my head hair finally decided it had had enough there were hairs all over the back of my shirt.  I would have thought they would have clung to the pillow but nope - the back of the shirt.  Are you having any of those weird scalp sensations?  Weird really doesn't describe it - more like painful but I'm not sure if everyone experiences that.

    Watta, keeping my fingers crossed for you!

    Hope49, thanks for the book suggestion.  I'm sort of gnat-like when it comes to attention spans/reading these days but I'm going to go to Amazon right now and add it to my wish list so I don't forget about it (in case I end up wanting to order it). 

    --

    I mentioned this on the triple positive thread but it's so outrageous that I want to repeat it here.  BCBS received an $88,000 bill for three days of hospital services from the hospital where my BMX took place!  I'm sure that exorbitant fee didn't include the surgeons' fees (BS/PS).  BCBS paid them $12,000 (plus some change) and called it a day!  And also noted that we won't be expected to pay any additional fees.  It's just mind-boggling to me...I have heard that hospitals will just bill anything in the hopes of making up for lost revenue from patients who can't pay.  This hospital is in an area where there are a lot of trauma patients and even the plastic surgeon mentioned that it's known for treating people who do not have the means to pay (obviously, they can't turn people away!).  Anyway, it's the only hospital where my BS had OR privileges at the time (he's the medical director of their fancy schmancy new women's health center and it is a truly beautiful facility across the parking lot from this downtown hospital).  I don't know if that's part of the reason for the $88,000 bill (THREE FREAKING DAYS - TWO NIGHTS) but good grief...

    Okay, health care costs rant over.

    p.s. Sheryl, I received a scarf from good wishes as well.  They are doing a wonderful service for patients and the scarf is beautifully made.  Good idea to let people know on various threads!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    gr8flmama~Your comment certainly made me smile this morning! I needed that. This AC #3 has been so danged hard.



    LeeA~I never thought about the trucker tossing us out of his truck when we popped our buttons and lost our scarves. Wouldn't you just love to see the look on that dudes face? Probably trying to cheat on his wife. Yeah, the joke would be on him. Lol



    If what don't kill is making us stronger...I should be able to bench press a Buick!!!



    Blessings

    Paula

  • Skigirl72
    Skigirl72 Member Posts: 478
    edited January 2013

    smethot- I am on the AC-T train. I get my AC every 3 weeks. They said because they wanted to give my body time to recover so 3 week intervals was the move. And it is weekly Taxol for 12 weeks.

    I've been battling a nasty cold. I had a sore throat on Sunday and by Monday night I was a mess... I feel much better today, but, I still have a cough and sinus issues. I never had a fever so that was a plus. I normally have an immune system of a horse.

    Whoever was asking about taking the anti nausea meds..... I stopped taking them on Monday (TX#2 was friday). The first time around I took them for 6 days and stopped. No one told me when I should expect to stop them. I just listened to my body. If I felt weird, then I took them. If I felt fine, I didn't.

    My next TX is the day after Valentine's Day. Perfect, just close enough to be a buzz kill.

    Good luck to all those who are hitting the bar tomorrow and pray for no bad SEs....

  • cancernoway
    cancernoway Member Posts: 90
    edited January 2013

    Jubby-oh yeah the Neulasta is a joy, or not. Glad we are on the same schedule. Did your day 3 suck?



    I will be at the bar for round 2 on Valentines Day as well. From the looks of things there will be a lot of us so we can all sign on and keep each other company. My mom is coming in to town 2/6 and will be here through my next treatment so she wants to go with me. She lives in Florida.



    I have two Texas Heeler dogs. One female and one male, Wrangler and Cash. They are spoiled rotten!!!



    Next time I'm onthe laptop I will post a pic of the Jedi Knight King. Pretty good stuff really.



    I hope things get better for everyone and remember tomorrow is another day. We didn't choose this but we are all bigger and better than it is.

  • MandyNJ
    MandyNJ Member Posts: 73
    edited January 2013

    Ok so I have news but we're not gonna call it good or bad. It is what it is. My port re-placement is scheduled for Monday morning. I scheduled it with the interventional radiologist, who is the guy who orchestrated saving my life. I was told by another radiologist that among his peers, he's called superman. Sounds good to me. My breast surgeon (who is looped in on everything) called me and told me she had called in Xanax to my pharmacy and to go pick it up so I can get out the door on Monday. I don't want to need it.



    I am determined (my four brothers would say stubborn) to not be afraid of this. So I'll need all your prayers and strength behind me, please.



  • bcfree2013
    bcfree2013 Member Posts: 94
    edited January 2013

    Skigirl72, my nurse told me to take the anti-nausea med twice a day following treatment for four days and then take it whenever needed.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    Skigirl~I'm on the same chemo and schedule as you, but I started on dec. 7.



    I'm 62, and also have great immunity. I've had sinus surgery, weight loss surgery, a

    C-section, knee replacement, and mastectomy, but I've never been through anything as hard as AC #3.



    I had zero nausea, just my usual SEs of no tastebuds, chemo fog, chills, and mind blowing fatigue. My SEs are usually days 6-8, but this time they started on day 3 and I still have fatigue on day 13. It takes everything in me just to go to the kitchen for ices tea.



    The onco nurse called today to talk to me about how I'm feeling. She said she's been doing this for 25 years and she always tells patients, " AC is liking climbing up the hill, but taxol is going down the hill."



    I pray #4 is easier.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • SherylB
    SherylB Member Posts: 450
    edited January 2013

    Mandy,

    If you need the tranquilizer take it for crying out loud, you will not get hooked on a couple of doses. If you leg was injured you would use a crutch, for now your anxiety needs a little help. However, what ever you decide will be what is right for you. Wish my doctor had given me some for my first chemo I was a basket case. Not as nervous about chemo #2 tomorrow but definitely hoping I don't have the neulasta SEs I had before.

    The port is a breeze for the most part I didn't have any problems, did get an infection but my own fault I am bad diabetic and a smoker. Ok everybody shut up. Oh woops wrong thread.

    Take care, Sheryl

  • CJohnson
    CJohnson Member Posts: 6
    edited January 2013

    Hello ladies....Im new to this and am looking for a placeto ask questions, voice concerns, vent and so on. I start chemo om Monday and I am pretty scared. Vthis seems to be the hardeststep emotional so far. So I welcome any and all advise you may have. :)

  • CJohnson
    CJohnson Member Posts: 6
    edited January 2013

    Hello ladies..... Im new t othis and looking for a place to get advise, voice concerns, vent and so on. I start chemo om Monday and this seems to be the heardest thing to pass so far. I welcome al ladvise. :)

  • chgogemini
    chgogemini Member Posts: 73
    edited January 2013

    I was hoping you can help me out with something. Should my mo specialize in bc only. I've been going for opinions and I got one at rush yesterday, honestly he commute is to much. I love my Bs and He's referring me to one of their mo but they don't specialiZe just in bc. I'm kind of worried. Does it matter.



    Gina

  • Bryona
    Bryona Member Posts: 214
    edited January 2013

    Whoa. I'm going to skip lots of people because today's tx has gone straight to my brain. Whoa.

    Mandy, baby, I'm pulling for you. I can only imagine how this must make you feel, and you know I'm a believer in happy pills. If ever a person was justified in needing a little help dealing with anxiety, it's you, now. So dope yourself up and let Superman get you all sorted out, with no more craziness. Smooth sailing, bella, and big, BIG hugs!

    Lounge lizard: My DH was a truck driver for several years, and he taught me that the danger phrase is actually "lot lizard," because the prostitutes come knocking on the doors of the trucks while they're parked in the lot at the truck stop. He used to call me whenever there was a knock on his cab door, and then he'd open it and say to the woman, "I'm on the phone with my wife." Funny that he was uncomfortable just saying no, but he didn't want to hurt their feelings. Anyway, I've only ever heard "loung lizard" in reference to sleezy guys who hang out in bars trying to pick up chicks.

    LeeA, you've already won the pun war. It's one of the many things I love about you. I'd lose before I even began -- I'm terrible at them most of the time.

    Skigirl, I feel your pain. Want to hear irony? Other than the fever, I was fine Sunday, but the nasal swab (I swear!) irritated my sinuses enough to start a sinus infection. Bastards! And I'm having the post-nasal-drip sore throat to go with it, and developing a little cough. Hospitals. Ugh.

    My hair started to fall out for real in the shower this morning. I don't know why, but it seems to think the shower is a good place to say, "Oh, to hell with it!" and head south. My down-there-hair stayed put until the shower each day, and then bam! No tingling on top yet, though, so I'm hoping it'll hold on for long enough for me to come out of the fog for the 15-minute mohawk and buzz.

    Okay, brain really not working. Good night, my lovelies. Cheers to all of you heading to the bar tomorrow: SherylB, kingboo, julesDenver, Lauren15 and anyone else I've missed. And don't pinch the bartender's butt on the way out! Sheesh! You ladies CANNOT be trusted...

  • gr8flmama21
    gr8flmama21 Member Posts: 31
    edited January 2013

    Bryona-my parents bought a neighborhood bar when i was 18. We always called the creepy old guys lounge lizards. My uncle was one and he wore a horrid squirrelly looking headpiece. Dying to find a wig i can get to look like that so i can make my brother & sisters cry laughing. My little cancer joke on them.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    I stand corrected. It had been so long since I'd heard the term, but Bryona is right. It is lot lizard. Sorry gr8flmama.



    Paula

  • ablydec
    ablydec Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2013

    Colleenkelly,

        I am REALLY interested in what you said about your Neulasta shot:  "Also they gave me 4 mg. instead of 6, because they said that usually the 4 works just as well without the side effects".   I would LOVE to know more about this.  The first round I took the Neulasta shot (6 mg). and my WBC count shot up to WAY above normal, 56,000.  (normal is between 4,000 and 10,000.)  My primary care doctor (who is also a good friend, and a more wholistic type of MD) was quite concerned, said 56 is not ok, and maybe I should be getting less Neulasta.   He called my MO, who was not very open-minded about it, said, "It's fine, don't worry." and "This is the protocol", but didn't really address his/my concerns.  I got kind of the same response when I asked my MO myself, although he did hear me out.  I suggested maybe taking a little less Neulasta.  He said "That's not how it's given" and "too high is better than too low".  (Why not aim for "just right"?).   He did agree to ask the hospital pharmacist if giving a partial dose is reasonable, although he hadn't heard of it.  (I called the pharmacist at Amgen, who make Neulasta, and she could tell me only that they don't have studies either way on the advisability of giving a smaller dose.)

      In short, can you ask your doctor - maybe before Friday? - if he has a source for giving the smaller dose?  I'd prefer to be working WITH my doctor, not to be "noncompliant".  (But I'm the one holding the actual syringe in my hand - couldn't I just give myself three quarters?) 

    Now that I know the medication is so darn expensive, I'm wondering if they say "don't give a smaller dose" just because it seems like an awful waste!

  • ablydec
    ablydec Member Posts: 124
    edited January 2013

    CJohnson,

      You're in the right place.  The ladies here are amazing.  A ton of good advice, lots of support and some laughs along the way.  It's the first thing I check when I get home from work at night.   The few days before you start chemo are nerve-wracking, but for many of us, the actual thing wasn't as bad as the worrying.  (I'm getting #2 on Friday, and somehow I started worrying again!)

    Good luck!  Shoshana

  • Jubby
    Jubby Member Posts: 85
    edited January 2013

    Hi Ladies,

    Really need some advice on mouth ulcers.  I get them from time to time anyway but I now have them and one so big on the edge of my tongue it is affecting my speech - handy.  It is really really painful.  Aside from bicarb and salt washes, has anyone got a good fix for them? I had this virus as a teenager where my whole mouth filled with ulcers and cankers and to this day, I can recall the horrendous pain.  I am so hoping this doesn't covert to that.  

    Any tips much welcomed.

    Thanks!

  • gr8flmama21
    gr8flmama21 Member Posts: 31
    edited January 2013

    Paula no worries-i laughed all nite thinking i dissed my new friends😊



    Jubby hugs-thought saw a magic mouthwash somewhere that

    may help. Look at newbies thread -may have been there.



    Hope all the thurs ladies have good trip to bar and minimal se.

  • Skigirl72
    Skigirl72 Member Posts: 478
    edited January 2013

    Jubby- the only advise I can give you is that I take an amino acid called l-lysine daily. I had BAD ones when I ws a kid and now if I dont protect my lips from the sun I will have a flare. I haven't had one in a few years and no sign of them through 2 tx so far...  This is what I found for the reason....

    Canker sore can be cause by more than one thing, I guess, but a primary cause is a herpes virus. It lives at the base of the nerves or something like that, and it needs l-arginine to come to the surface and cause sores. When the cells have a lot of arginine it replaces the lysine, the virus migrates to the surface and causes a sore. If you take lysine it displaces the arginine and the virus recedes.

    That is why all my life I got them when I ate nuts, which are high in arginine. Now, when I first start to get one, I take about 2000 mg of lysine, and overnight it usually goes away. If I actually get one full blown before I take lysine it takes more lysine and it takes longer to get rid of it.

    Now I wonder if green tea is high in lysine. Do a little research on the dosage to see what you should take. I take 1000mg split into two doses. seems to do the trick. Also green tea compresses help.

  • smethot
    smethot Member Posts: 161
    edited January 2013

    Mandy- here's thinking of you...you'll get through this and if you need the meds, take 'em.  My husband was super-leery of the port (freaked his normally mellow ass right out) so i'm going with the pic- i totally understand your "concerns".  Let us know how you fare...

    Jubby- i saw a newbie link that suggested a combo of milk of magnesia and liquid benadryl?  Tsp each mixed?  My onco nurse also suggested swishing yoghurt yesterday...so much for bacteria being bad for you after chemo...pls let us know what works for you...

    Bryona- kick that crack monkey into action, girl!  No snoozy/foggy monkey...who ever heard of a mellow crack monkey?  Shall i send over a crack pug to help out?  Here's hoping the fog lifts soon and you're back at it...do you teach foggy?  Would teenagers notice?

    Hope the "ski's" and anyone else not quite up to snuff are feeling better soon...how the hell are we supposed to avoid colds???  Flus?  I had work install hand cleaner dispensers all over the plant and the office...hope it helps!

    Waiting to hear on the scheduling of my last tests and when chemo #1 will start.  Got a grocery list of meds from my MO yesterday, found out Neulasta is 100% covered by benefits (woo-hoo) and now i hope the chemo clinic gives me more info before visit #1.  The whole deal yesterday seemed very laissez-faire...MO was confident i can sail through this and made minimal noises over SE's.  They covered the basics (take your meds, don't be a hero, drink a lot, you'll be tired) but NOTHING like the details you ladies have provided...glad you're here.  I rec'd no restrictions except no herbal meds or anti-oxidents (omega-3's or vitamin c) and got no horror storeis at all.  Maybe the cold here in Canada kills SE's??? (back to -15 C with the wind chill today...30 degree difference in ONE DAY!!!)

    And on another note, i was the youngest person in the chemo clinic yesterday by AT LEAST 30 years.  No exaggeration.  The older ladies were all looking at me like "what the gosh-darn are YOU doing here?"  I felt like a toddler at the prom...i mean seriously, it was ridiculous the (almost) dirty looks i was getting.  No offense to our more seasoned contingent but i felt like telling them that younger ladies get bc, too, you know!  Maybe they will like me more when my hair is gone.  Even the clinic staff were looking at me like i had 2 heads...i am...exuberant...to say the least under normal circumstances.  This just ramps me up.  And i guess if you're used to dealing with the geriatric crowd, i would be like a pink flamingo at a sparrow party.  Even the MO asked my husband if i'm always like this???  Geez...Shannon

  • MandyNJ
    MandyNJ Member Posts: 73
    edited January 2013

    Sheryl - its not about getting hooked on one or 30 doses. It's about debilitating fear and I do not want to fear every single medical procedure for the rest of my life. It's about fearing the very thing that put two holes in the side of my body and going back for another try. It's about a simple procedure being simple for everyone but me, the statistic. I know that this is the way to go. I know I'm not offering up the veins on my one arm to be destroyed by chemo. Its a little hard to muster up the fortitude to get going. A strong woman recognizes it in others and I know if I have our board behind me, I will be as strong as steel. We have some tough cookies here.

  • macyhen111
    macyhen111 Member Posts: 754
    edited January 2013

    Hi all I haven't posted in a while. Hope everyone is doing good. I just finished my 6th Taxol infusion yesterday and aside from a little tummy trouble ( nausea and diarrhea ) I've been doing great. I still have all my hair, carpet , drapes and also have got a full curl on my smooshed hamburger buns, go figure. I was kinda looking forward to being bald ( not ) I get a week off next week from the Bar, and I don't know what I'm going to do with myself on that day. I'm kinda used to my Wednesday happy hour. Oh well have a great se's free day all!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    ziffy you may find that it is harder to watch it fall out. All those hairs in the drain and around the bathroom I found to be more heartwrenching than to just take it off.  You will know when the time is right for sure.

    bcfree2013 I've "heard" to drink 3 liters, but not sure that is the magic number. By asking about cooking simple meals during chemo, do you mean physically? You certainly will be able to cook. Whether you feel like cooking is another deal altogether. I've had such a hard time finding somthing that is appealing this week that I can't imagine cooking a meal. Luckily DH will take care of that. I had a few crackers and peanut butter for dinner last night. Peanut butter seems to be the only thing that tastes good and doesn't leave a horrible after taste.

    Oliverhog, so glad it went well with your son. Down the road he and his friends will share stories about how "cool" it is that he has armor in his arm - like the Terminator.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    LeeA, Jim was the Lizard King. Can you imagine why?? LOL

    InspiredbyDolce I love the Friday idea! And it must be consistent. I need to have a pedi so, so bad but still very leary of whether I should venture to a salon. Has anyone been to have a pedi since they began treatment?

    MandyNJ sounds like you will be in awesome hands with superman. Can't get any better than that.

    Oliverhog you look gorgeous!

    Still have more catching up to do, but I'm heading to the office today. :( Germs be warned - Keep Away!

  • Watta
    Watta Member Posts: 22
    edited January 2013

    Mandy, before my first tx I was crying, cried when they put in the IV, I was a total mess. I had taken one Ativan before, should have taken two. They gave me more with the saline drip...take it!!! Ask for it if they dont offer. Fighting anxiety is too hard. I did tx #2 yesterday with one Ativan as insurance and none in the IV. Knowing what to expect helps, it's the fear of the unknown. And don't be afraid to ask them for it either, they want you calm as well.



    And Gina, I'd go with an SO and MO who had experience with breast cancer surgery, and chemotherapy or whatever your treatment is, no question. Someone who specializes will know what to do in any contingency. They are up on all the studies and literature. Can someone drive you? Hubby, good friend, hospital shuttle? It's worth it in my book. I travel 1 1/2 hours to Boston and the same back. DH drives, but I have friends who have offered if he can't.



    Morning-after update: no steroid high this time, in fact I can't open my eyes over halfway. Tired already. Headach...can I take Tylenol? Made a strawberry kefir shake for breakfast, drinking decaf green tea. I just got a call from an old friend who went through this recently! What a breath of fresh air :)



    Breathe in, breathe out, move on. Wishing everyone minimal SE's always.

  • teacherjulief
    teacherjulief Member Posts: 16
    edited January 2013

    Start my chemo today. As prepared as I can be but this board has helped. Good luck to everyone else getting treatments today, too. You are all amazing and funny!

  • Skigirl72
    Skigirl72 Member Posts: 478
    edited January 2013

    Oliverhog- I saw this and thought your son would think this is just the coolest considering the circumstances...

    http://www.casttoo.com

    I wish I knew about this site when My son broke his wrist. I would have totally done this for him. Might put a little smile on his face.

    MandyNY- Hang in there. You are strong and brave.

    Watta-I was told Tylenol was ok. Just be mindful of the dosage.

    Everything tastes like metal now and from what I remember I will loose all taste today or tomorrow. I hope it goes away by Sunday. I am hopefully going to a Superbowl party where a bunch of fantastic cooks are gathering. I'm going to be really pissed if I cant taste anything.

    Good luck to those going to the bar today and those nursing hangovers.

  • LeeA
    LeeA Member Posts: 1,660
    edited January 2013

    Skigirl, this taste bud workaround was suggested by NHMom.

    In case you missed it:

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/69/topic/797712?page=36#post_3392800

  • LeeA
    LeeA Member Posts: 1,660
    edited January 2013

    Also, Mandy, ditto to what Skigirl said: "you are strong and brave."  

    You will be in my thoughts and prayers!  

  • Zorina
    Zorina Member Posts: 103
    edited January 2013

    Smethot  -  My cystic acne has almost completely disappeared (except for the scars!)  I would consider it a serious bonus to this nightmare if it disappeared forever.  Throw in the permanent loss of the bristly chin hairs, and it would be a wonderful deal.

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