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  • SwgeeWi
    SwgeeWi Member Posts: 315
    edited January 2013

    Hi all.  I finished my first week of rads.  Well, 4 treatments anyway. (None on MLK Day).   My back has a huge knot -i think it's from holding my arms up above my head for 20 minutes at a time.  I met with  a nurse on Friday who will check in with me week 3, since that's when skin changes can show.  She went over possible skin reactions and care of my radiated area.  I didn't realize how large the actual area being radiated is. I'm glad I asked! It was all very helpful and reassuring.  My boob is a little sore (probably a big boob issue)-damn it!

    QueenKong-I ordered some bras and camis for the girls from TLCdirect.org through American Cancer Society.  I need more support, so I ordered a Radiation Comfort Cami-$28.00 and  a Comfort Bra Without Pockets for Lumpectomy Patients.  I haven't received them yet, so I will let you know what I think of them.  I'm trying to stick with cotton, but everything is either not supportive at all or it's underwire.

    Welcome kwein!  Good luck with your upcoming rads! 

    Hi Villagegirl!  Your stats look an awful lot like mine only in the other boob. My planning scan wasn't too bad.  I met with the RO, then went to a treatment room, took off my top, laid down on the Lineac table.  They put some tape with markers on my breast  and did some lining up. Now I can't remember if they did the tattoos before or after the scan, but they took a ct scan so they know where the organs are and where to direct the beams. My CT scan showed my heart at a weird tilt so I'm having my rads in a Tomotherapy machine which is a little more precise I guess. The tattoos are tiny dots (smaller than a freckle!) and it just felt like a little pinch when they did them.  I had 6.  I met some of the Rad techs. Since my Tomotherapy  machine takes about 10 minutes to do the scan at every appt, then 10 min. for the actual rad. treatment, they play music, which is really nice. I can tell how much time goes by better with music on than with none at all. That was my experience. Kind of a non-event except for exposing your boobs, once again for the masses! (If I had any modesty left after childbirth, it's long gone now!!!:)   

  • ridergirl
    ridergirl Member Posts: 443
    edited January 2013

    Queenkong I get what you mean about the hair growing back - the little fuzz covering I have is annoying and I too keep thinking about shaving it, but as you said it will never grow back if I keep doing that!  I have a couple wigs that I hardly wear, mostly just wear a scarf or hat of some sort. I have about 1/2 inch or so of fuzz, but just started on a new chemo so I'm wondering if it's going to fall out all over again?  Mine is also coming in with a lot of white and some dark, I had it dyed pale blonde when I had hair, and think soon I won't be ablw to wait until I can dye it again - coming in so patchy.

    I have always had big thick dark brown eyebrows and they didn' t fall out completely, but enough that I have to pencil them in, and suprise suprise they look so  much better this way. Guess that will be one more maintenance project as the hair grows back I think I want to keep them thinned out.

  • QueenKong
    QueenKong Member Posts: 154
    edited January 2013

    Thanks for the cami tips Swgee, I'm looking at the site not. I have a bra like that now that I'm not really that fond of, so annoying and squishes my boobs up. I thought it might be too tight for radiation sensitivity. That top looks doable or triable. I was hoping to find a bunch for cheap that I could toss after radiation as I am reading about this goop that ruins everything. Am I just going to have to wear junky tops for a couple of months? *sigh*

  • Katharine2411
    Katharine2411 Member Posts: 48
    edited January 2013

    Starting radiation first thing tomorrow morning. I'm sooooo happy that my six months of chemo is over!! My tumor was 7 inches and went into three nodes but didnt spread further. surgeon got it all thank God! Starting to feel better. Have white fuzz on my head as well. Really looking forward to having normal hair again!!!

  • Loving
    Loving Member Posts: 37
    edited January 2013

    Took a few days off since finishing rads but took tamoxifen this morning. First day was good. Didn't notice anything. I really need to watch what I eat and start exercising! Packed my exercise bag for tomorrow and plan on going to the gym over lunch.

  • susancats
    susancats Member Posts: 51
    edited January 2013

    Fgm-I will try the aloe- starting week 4 tomorrow. Welcome to all the new peeps! This is a great place with lots of info and positive energy!

    Katherine 24. You said 7 INCHES or did you mean cm??? Wow! If inches, you are quite a trooper! Radiation won't be hard compared to the 6 mo of chemo!!

    Best wishes to all!!

  • cowpower
    cowpower Member Posts: 293
    edited January 2013

    Queenkong, I bought a few cheap shirts to wear while ruining them with aquaphor, then, of course, decided I really liked them and didnt want to ruin them- fickle bitch that I am. So, I got the aquaphor out of most of them with dish detergent and a bit of a scrub, then wore mens " wife beater" tshirts over the aquaphor. Looked really nice under the bra and prosthesis. Thank goodness I wasnt in a car accident! Anyway, it saved a couple shirts, but also really helpedwith the bra irritation, etc. Not to mention the fashion statement....Should we do a comparison study to see whose hair growth stimulant is faster? I have to drive 45 min to Albany twice today with various kid appointments, so I could really get a jump on that freezing thing....

  • sonson
    sonson Member Posts: 162
    edited January 2013

    I haven't read through all the posts yet...that's what I get for taking the weekends off...too much to read.  But I have to say allurbaddays you have so much hair!  How did you do that?  We stopped chemo around the same time and I don't have that much hair.  What are you doing to make it grow that fast?  I want mine that long!  I'm so jealous!! Laughing  I kept some of my top lashes, but all of my bottom lashes have gone MIA.  I have just a few stubbles now coming in.

    Cowpower- yep, today is my last day of rads.  I sure hope that machine doesn't break down.  I should have changed my appointment to the morning, but my standing appointment has always been around lunch time so I have to wait half the day before I can get this over with.  I waited all weekend so whats a few more hours! 

    Loafer- I have been working throughout doing rads and am currently at the end of rads and not wearing a bra.  The good thing about doing this in the winter is that you can wear layers and cover up the fact that you aren't wearing a bra.  I don't think it matters how big you are really as long as you have enough layers on.  I live in the south and it has finally gotten a bit cooler here so I have layered up and I bought some body shape type  camis (in fact I think it's called body shape) and they hold me up like it would if you were wearing a tank with a built in bra.  But honestly I had been able to wear a bra for most of the treatment.  It's only been the last two weeks that I've had a problem.

    Welcome and good luck to all the newcomers.  Radiation isn't as bad as chemo.  So if you got through chemo you can get through this.

  • cwsterling
    cwsterling Member Posts: 18
    edited January 2013

    Energy isme...I finished chemo 11/28 and had port removed and started rads 12/13. I ran throughout my chemo and rads (4 days per week). Your HR is high during chemo (that is normal) and I just monitored it and kept it at 160 or less-hill running was a no go. Kept it at 160 only cuz I turned 50 in Nov and didn't want to go too high on the HR. It gets better during rads, you get more energy and feel less tired during exercise until about week 4 of rads and then I got tired. Not as bad as chemo and no HR increases, just tired. I also take suppliments (MD approved) that help with inflammation. If you want more info PM me.



    The first few treatments were scary for me but you kind of get used to it. I found it was hard trusting the techs to have me in the right position and be pushing the right buttons. i have some skin issues, esp under the arm but no open areas yet. I think they are coming but I only have 3 boosts left so I am powering on!

  • Cocobean
    Cocobean Member Posts: 135
    edited January 2013

    I have my first of 33 rads today, feeling pretty good about it, love my RO and had a nice conversation with him on Friday after my practice run, answered all my questions and put me at ease...so feeling ready to go. So relieved that many of you have said that this will be much easier than chemo. :) Thanks for all the great advice and tips...congrats to those of you who are finishing up!

  • Shachar
    Shachar Member Posts: 229
    edited January 2013

    Welcome to all of the newbies! Seems you have all been busy over the weekend on here and I missed it.

    Cowpower, I will be looking for a new MO after rads. Mine doesn't instill much confidence and is back and forth each time I see him: take tamoxifen, you can't take tamoxifen due to a flare, take tamoxifen, don't take tamoxifen. Do not get your ovaries out, we could consider getting your ovaries out, getting your ovaries out would only help for 6 months, maybe we should strongly consider getting those ovaries out. I used to think I was confused but now realize it is him! :) Hopping off that crazy train. I also hope your son does well and you find answers. I can't even imagine.

    23/25 done! Well, maybe 25. My skin healed so well after 15 the RO said maybe 28, and then I got red again so he said maybe 25. I see him Wednesday after 25. Either way I will be going to 33 with boosts.....I think, so far. That may all change! I am going to have to start making some decisions for these two, so 25 it is and I recommend my MO gets his ovaries removed.

    Skin is holding up well and felt so awesome I decided to wear a bra Sunday. For an hour. Not a good idea! But otherwise, doing great! I can already envision my breast returning to a normal shade, getting areola tattoos, and taking a road trip. Have an awesome day, ladies!

  • Katharine2411
    Katharine2411 Member Posts: 48
    edited January 2013

    Susancats - meant Cm ... LoL ... Chemo brain ... Sorry! I had two lumps that fused together. Everyone is telling me radiation is easier ... I'm there now but the machine is broken so not sure I'll start today

  • allurbaddayswillend
    allurbaddayswillend Member Posts: 355
    edited January 2013

    QueenKong, Saskatoon is in Saskatchewan. :) Them's my *crazy* eyes... My radiation was done with me lying on my back and my arms extended up away from my head. How comfy that is will depend on your flexibility.

    cowpower, you make a point about the cold. maybe my hair is growing because it's so cold where I live (which is almost in Saskatoon but still in the USA). naaaah, what has grown is super-duper-fine and a lot more white/gray than I normally have so what I'm getting in volume is lacking in thickness and color… I intentionally mess it up to make it look bigger like in that photo. I actually colored it soon after I took that shot so I can see it better. I hope things are going well with your son's appt today.

    For those asking, I did the old T-shirt against my irradiated skin, UNDER an old bra under a sweater/sweatshirt/jacket when I was out in public. My lumpectomy reduced my right breast enough to make my bras kind of loose on that side, just enough to wear the T-shirt under the bra like that. A bra extender would have helped with some of my other bras I'm sure. I went braless at home almost all the time.

    daisymom, what kind of symptoms were you having? Best of luck on that as well as rads. I sort of am astounded that nobody has suggested a baseline pelvic ultrasound yet for me and I'm going to request one next time I see my MO.

    energyisme - radiation was less hard on my body than the chemo and that's the way it is for most women. I did get quite fatigued at the end but I still did some exercise. I am only 11 days post-radiation but I walked 4.5 miles on Saturday at a pace of a 15-minute mile and breathing and heart were good. I have some difficulty still with standing up quickly from a squat or yoga position: I get lightheaded. THat is an SE from my chemo and is getting better but just a little slower than some stuff. It's gonna vary from person-to-person and I understand having the crap scared out of you but likely rads will all be easier than chemo for you and you'll mostly find improvements in health measures.

    Congrats sonson! You're done, yes?!?

    Katherine, 7 inches!!?!! Holy Shuckin' Fit! Congrats on finishing chemo and surgery and all, you trooper! sorry about the delay...

    Loving, let me know how exercise goes. I'm curious how much exertion you'll feel, etc. are you on tamo or something?

    Shachar, "I recommend my MO gets his ovaries removed." <- good plan it sounds like… My  MO reconsidered and changed some stuff on me as he got to know my medical history but he has stuck with it, not been completely insane like yours sounds.

    SwgeeWi, congrats on finishing your 1st week. I, a DD cup, was a little sore from the first week on but nothing too bad. but Yes, the position was hard on me too and it definitely helped that our clinic has a massage therapist there. One visit a week is part of the deal. I think the massage is what kept me using my arm because she'd work out the back knot and the shoulder tension.

    to anyone else I've missed, I'm sorry, it is hard to keep up here sometimes but know that you are in yet another sister's thoughts and good wishes for health!

  • Katharine2411
    Katharine2411 Member Posts: 48
    edited January 2013

    It was 7 cm ... Two small ones fused together ...

  • Mother4Life
    Mother4Life Member Posts: 40
    edited January 2013

    Has anyone has dizzyness and feeling of they were doing to be sick to stomach during radiation. I am on treatment 17 of 30 today.. And am feeling weird today. Wondering if has to due with treatment or am I getting the stomach flu. I will ask staff tomorrow at hospital.. But thought I ask here too... Is this normal?  I never felt like this before. I am still dealing with a bit of wheezing and open sore on breast, breast red and raw..but doctor/staff say it is normal and will just keep eye on those issues. Now feeling dizzy and as if I want to throw up all day...I do not know what to do. Been resting the afternoon... But my kids are on their way home from school so must get up and make dinner, etc.... Even though I feel like I have one foot in the grave right now. Anyways... Is this feeling normal with having radiation on breast ? Also been getting major head ache after treatments this last few times? Normal ???

  • fgm
    fgm Member Posts: 831
    edited January 2013

    Mother4life-Nausea  can be a side effect of radiation.  I would talk to my RO tomorrow.  Sorry you are feeling lousy.  This is when I would order out for a pizza!

    I, also, have a question: Although my last chemo was Oct.22 my last 2 fingernails just fell off. The nurse thought it was strange after being off chemo for so long.  Has anyone else had this experience with their nails?

  • cowpower
    cowpower Member Posts: 293
    edited January 2013

    Sonson, YAY YOU DID IT! Isnt it a great feeling? Hope you wont be walking in circles at zaptime tomorrow, just wondering what to do with yourself! I took myself out to a late breakfast my last free day, as it had been a granola bar in the car on the way in to the hospital every day. I think I had the world's most appreciated poached egg! You wont beliieve how fast your skin will turn around now. I dont really even have any brown spots anymore. Also, I will be anxious to hear if the lymphedema goes away. My arm seems to be fine now, although I still wear the sleeve most of the time. My therapist said I would figure out when and how much intervention would be needed long term.



    Shachar, sounds like your flaky MO needs a little rest. I hope you find someone you deal better with. I love mine- she is a good match for me decent sense of humor, sarcastic, and practical. Also frightfully smart, which I like in a doc. Endocrinologist pretty much confirmed what we know about my sons condition, which is that nobody knows much at all. As long as the attacks remain infrequent and resolve on their own, he thinks we should ignore the whole thing as much as possible. Hope cardiologist will feel the same way. I feel relieved that he didnt think it is a huge deal.



    Mother4life, Yes I did havea couple bad headaches and some nausea in the middle of treatment, also lack of appetite. (Quite unlike me, I assure you;)) It went away after a few days, but it was never severe, so you might want to check with your docs.



    Allurbaddays, I can no longer suggest the haed out of the car window solution as freezing rain today decreased driving visibilty too much. I guess I will have to move north like you did. I wouldnt have enough hair to color yet. Mine came in salt and pepper- I look like a stray pet, kind of stringy!

  • JenniferW
    JenniferW Member Posts: 29
    edited January 2013

    Question about creams: I have been using silvadene (on my second large jar already), hydrocrotisone, some other stuff the RO gave me with lidocaine in it, and have been doing soaks, etc.  Nothing is really working well to relieve the pain I'm having.  The skin breakdown under my boob is so bad I can barely raise my arm for rads. It's clear up at the top of my armpit now and I feel blisters there.  Anyhoo, my son's girflriend is a CNA at a nursing home.  They use something called calmoceptine on their incontinent patients who tend to get diaper rash and skin breakdown.  She said it works like a charm to clear up rash and breakdown.  So, I bought a tube today (available at Walgreens).  I put some on and the relief was almost instantaneous.  It's not scented and is very thick.  It might be a chore to remove, but probably nothing worse than Aquaphor.  It kind of had a cooling effect (like Bengay or something, but without the smell or the sting) and helped with itching, too.  I am a little nervous to use something that the doctor (or you ladies) haven't suggested, but I really felt like I needed something else.  Anyone ever heard of it and/or used it? 

  • allurbaddayswillend
    allurbaddayswillend Member Posts: 355
    edited January 2013

    mother4life, I kept some of my anti-nausea med left over from chemo and used it a few times during radiation. I have the stuff you rub on your wrists - promethazine, I think. There were a few times I had to hurry up and get it on my skin before I hurled! I think the combo of radiation plus being on Tamoxifen gave me nausea. I still get a dampened appetite from the tam but I am not as queasy as I was during rads. A few other women have this side effect too. I saw a thread about it.

  • Mother4Life
    Mother4Life Member Posts: 40
    edited January 2013

    Thanks for the information... Good to know it is just the radiation. I have treatment at 9am tomorrow so I will talk to them and see if the can give me something to help. I am on tamoxifin too.. So it could be a combination of two.. With also shock of raw skin, etc.. That is making me feel like this. 

  • fgm
    fgm Member Posts: 831
    edited January 2013

    Disco_dancers.gif  Sonson- Congratulations!! This is supposed to be a happy dance.

  • fgm
    fgm Member Posts: 831
    edited January 2013

    Sonson- but I see that it didn't copy.  Oh well, if you could see me, I'm doing the happy dance for you!!!

  • SwgeeWi
    SwgeeWi Member Posts: 315
    edited January 2013

    Congrats Sonson!!! I'm soooo happy for you! ((Gentle hugs)) Enjoy your free time, and celebrate!:)

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited January 2013

    Sitting in the ER with heart palpitations and shortness of breath. Both oncologists can't do anything so they said go to the ER. Probably from radiation. Waiting to finish getting tests and see what's going on.

  • Shachar
    Shachar Member Posts: 229
    edited January 2013

    Sonson, YIPPEE!!!!! Another sister across the finish line!

    Allurbaddays and cowpower, wish my MO had a sense of dry humor like my RO... The liason said they weren't used to having a patient who researched so much. Yep, probably not as many so sarcastic either, haha. And allur, love that hair!!! Looks very soft! Cowpower, glad they think it isn't as serious and that it is infrequent with yoir son.

    Mother4life, I have days with headaches, dizzy, weak, and just dazed feeling. They said the dazed, headaches, and dizzy arent from rads but I interpret that as "less common side effect". The good thing it seems to only be a day and then goes away until the next time. I still get chilled quite a bit, too, if you are feeling that. I will be freezing while it is 78 degrees complete with teeth chattering...all except for the one hot breast, lol.

    Jennifer, I may try that. I have heard destin works as good as silvadine so that sounds like the same concept.

    No burning, peeling, or blisters here...just one hot potato. But what is totally awesome, I can feel that reconstructed nipple. Yep, hurts like heck like somebody twisted a real one. How cool is that? Hahaha

  • cvmarilyn
    cvmarilyn Member Posts: 179
    edited January 2013

    I REALLY, REALLY recommend the Lindi cream. It seems like it took the burn out.  

  • Loving
    Loving Member Posts: 37
    edited January 2013

    Sonson - congratulations!! Woohoo!



    Lifeonitside: hope you are ok.



    Today is the first day that I didn't feel like sitting in the recliner all night. I actually felt somewhat normal. It was in the 70's today which is crazy for January in Kansas City. It felt so good to have good weather. I actually exercised for 30 minutes on the elliptical. It was hard but I did it! 2 days on tamoxifen and feel nothing different. I hope it stays this way.

  • susancats
    susancats Member Posts: 51
    edited January 2013

    Katharine- Glad it was cm!!! Whew! My machine was down today too- you don't happen to be in northern CA, are you?? I was kinda bummed because that meant adding one more day to the end!
    My nipple got all weird and peeled in the shower tonight. Uh-oh....didnt hurt, But kinda brownish skin came off. Hope that doesn't mean rawness ahead for rads!!

  • Loneskier
    Loneskier Member Posts: 44
    edited January 2013

    Last treatment after work today.  I can't believe it is going to be over.  Started 12/7.  Will be nice to just come home after work tomorrow.  Next Dr appt in 3 wks.  I have follow ups with Breast Surgeon and Oncologist.  The Radiologist wants to see me in 30 days.  It has been 6 months from my bad mamagram(8/29). 

  • cowpower
    cowpower Member Posts: 293
    edited January 2013

    Loneskier, enjoy your last treatment, knowing you dont have to come back! Now you can start going to Happy Hour after work, lol. It is quite an accomplishment to finish, CONGRATULATIONS!



    Lifeonitsside, Any news? Hope you are ok.



    Sachar, never thought I would say this to anyone, but glad for your nurple. I woild be willing to trade one hot flash for one chill, if you want. For some reason the last two evenings have been very sweaty. Cant be the hair making me hot.....

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