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  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited January 2013

    Week one is DONE.  5 down, 25 to go - so far, so good.   

    How'd the other newbies make out?

  • sonson
    sonson Member Posts: 162
    edited January 2013

    Jenn-  Woo Hoo for single digits!  You are down to the wire AND setting a new trend!  You should be so proud.  I'm kinda jealous that you get to do yoga (as Cowpower said) along with your rads treatment!

    QueenKong- Welcome to radiation.  Things to ask could be what to put on your skin while in treatment.  What type of deodorant do they want you to use on the treatment side.  And as far as camis go I went with some body shape type camis so it would kind of hold the girls in a bit.  (I bought it a size larger only because I couldn't find my size.)  So it's not that tight, but it does hold my girls in just a tiny bit.  I guess it's kind of like wearing those tanks with the built in bra.  And a boost is when they target the area where the tumor used to be.  And that's something you can also ask your RO, but mine said it's actually less radiation than the regular days of treatment so the name or word is kind of misleading.

    Annette- Yay for having one week done!  It gets monotonous really quickly.

  • Shachar
    Shachar Member Posts: 229
    edited January 2013

    Hahaha, "We need you to assume the Jenn diving swan position".

    I am beginning to wonder why they haven't yet begun my boosts mapping? I have three regular treatments left. Woot woot!

    My skin feels awesome except for dry and itchy. Last night I was able to use some regular Aveeno lotion and it was heaven! No greasy sticking to my shirt Aquophor and skin was so soft! In fact, I feel like I could begin wearing a bra again with normal people shirts instead of baggy t shirts. Maybe I will hold off on that a little while.

    Congrats CV! I also have shoulder stiffness, feels more like it is from dry skin not wanting to stretch so I will start working it after rads. I also have with it some burning down the back of my upper arm...probably irritated nerves and muscles.

    I move my implant around daily and so far no issues. :) I plan to continue that to avoid contracture. Everybody have a good weekend!

  • cider8
    cider8 Member Posts: 832
    edited January 2013

    I didn't have my mapping until that first boost day. That visit was longer for the multiple X-rays and skin markings.



    My clavicle finished peeling and it is no longer painful. Just sensitive. So less than one week from the start of peeling to the end. The redness of non boost areas is also diminishing. I still have boost stickers to get rid of. I don't want skin to come off with them.



    I'm still amazed I'm finished. I've slept a lot the past 2 days. I'm actually trying to sleep as much as my body wants so I can heal! Yeah, that's the ticket!

  • Loafer
    Loafer Member Posts: 121
    edited January 2013

    Hi Gals!



    Getting ready to start rads in a week. I have been reading a lot about this topic and how gals are dealing with the burns, weeping by wearing a cami and lubing up. This seems like a great idea if you are going home: however, my question is what are working gals doing? I work in a business casual office and can't pull off the baggy tshirt look with sagging breasts. Thanks!

  • PatinMN
    PatinMN Member Posts: 920
    edited January 2013

    Loafer, I have been able to wear my regular bra so far.  Also, my RO is fine with whatever deodorant/antiperspirant I want to use, so no smell problems. Tongue Out  They gave me Miaderm to use, which is not greasy at all - it sinks right into the skin and doesn't have a scent.  My nipple area has started to get a little sensitive so they gave me Aquafor to use there, and suggested I use it at night because it is greasy.  I've been meaning to go shopping for a looser-fitting bra - hopefully since this weekend will be above zero I will get motivated to go shopping!  I do have a stretchy cami that I bought to help keep warm during cold caps, and I think that might give some support if I end up not being able to wear a bra.  My office is business casual too, but maybe a bit more casual than business (unless we're meeting with clients).  I had #14 today, 19 more to go.

  • QueenKong
    QueenKong Member Posts: 154
    edited January 2013

    Thanks for the welcome and cami info Sonson.

    Does someone have a brand name for the cami's they've bought that worked for them? Cami's for big breasted during radiation? I want to order some before I have to start.

    I thought all the radiation treatments were targeted for breast cancer? Only the "boosts"? so confusing.

    Is everyone getting radiation in the prone face down position? I was reading something about that being best. 

    Is is possible to shower as normal?

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited January 2013

    Shachar,  The last day of my reg. rads, they took some xray images for positioning for the boosts, but I think the original CT mapping is used also.  What I mean is there was very little additionaly required of me before the boosts began.

    QueenKong,  I was suppine for my breast rads.  I've heard that being prone can be helpful in keeping more of the heart out of the rads field if you are having your left side treated.  Are you getting your left side?   Yes, you can shower normally.  I was told not to use soap on the rads area, but some say a pure, mild soap is o.k.; warm (not hot) water and no scrubbing the treatment area with a washcloth.

  • fgm
    fgm Member Posts: 831
    edited January 2013

    I have 4 boosts to go.  Should be done on Thursday!!!

    CVMarilyn-Congratulations on finishing!! I'll be starting Arimedex when I finish rads, too.  I started looking at that thread.Yikes! Seems like a lot of women have side effects.

    5luvbug and Catlyn-Rads is easy compared to chemo.  As they say, "Everyone is different."  I never had the fatigue. Some people do.  I'll have 33 treatments and I did have to stop for 8 days between my regular treatment and the boosts because my breast was very red and sore but it took 26 treatments for it to get that way.

    QueenKong-I'm large like you.  Here are some ideas that my RO and rad techs gave me.  My tumor was on the underside of my breast so it was hard to wear a bra but I had to when I went out of my house. I bought bra extensions that fit on the back of my regular bra.  I bought them at Joanne Fabrics.  I could use my regular bras. I wear a man's sleeveless t-shirt under my bra and a piece of cotton fabric under my breast. The fabric soaks up the sweat (very attractive Smile)  I used Miaderm and Aquaphor.  A few days ago I stopped the Miaderm and used aloe, which is great. My RO also gave me Domboro which is a solution that I soak gauze in and place on my sore spots for 15 minutes twice a day....it feels wonderful.  Also, my RO gave me bandages that had a soothing chemical on it that I placed under my breast when I wore a bra....I didn't always use it, though. Last but not least, I would air out my boob as much as possible.  I don't have a ceiling fan so I would use the cool setting of my hair dryer or a small hand held fan.  Hope this helps.

    Have a comfortable weekend everyone!!

  • JenniferW
    JenniferW Member Posts: 29
    edited January 2013

    Queenkong: All of my rads have been supine.  I lie on the table with my arm above my head holding on to a handle behind me.  They also tape back the flabby part of my arm (!) so that it stays out of the range.  I have what they call a two point setup.  I have a small midsternal tattoo and then one on on my side.  The first part of my treatment is all done with those tattoos.  They radiate one side and then the machine switches sides and they radiate the other side.  This is full breast radiation.  Once I get to the boosts, that is radiating just my scar and where my tumor was.  That way they've gotten all those microcells that might have been left after surgery. 

    I also shower normally.  Like someone else said, I do not use super hot water.  I do use a soap a friend made for me.  It's goats milk soap and it's unscented.  It keeps me feeling clean but doesn't have the harsh chemicals and perfumes of body washes, etc.  It also helps keep my skin soft.  I love it! 

    Jenn

  • Loving
    Loving Member Posts: 37
    edited January 2013

    I was really nervous about not wearing a bra to work too but it ended not being a problem.



    I bought camisoles at Costco that are really soft and have a built in bra. They came in a package of white and black. I preferred wearing the black to work. I quickly determined that I was glad that I had radiation in the winter vs. summer. I wore bulky sweaters to work every day. I wasn't uncomfortable at all. As long as I was layered, it didn't bother me. Some outfits I threw on a scarf to hid myself better.



    I wore a bra as long as I could but the day I peeled it off along with my skin I wasn't so concerned with not wearing a bra. Your body will tell you what you need and mentally you learn to go with it. I was very modest and now not so much...so many people have looked at me that I really don't notice it now.



    Hope this helps!

  • 5LuvBugs
    5LuvBugs Member Posts: 506
    edited January 2013

    Oh Jen, I am still laughing with you...Now just be careful they don't post that pic on FACEBOOK!!!! Yikes...Surprised

    About Bras...Last night I got rid of all my underwire bras - you know the ones that look 1/2 decent and hold you up and together - I am going to try to just wear those genie bras or loose soft cami bras and I'll probably look like a smashed pancake but what the heck pancakes are goodLaughing

    PS, my hair still looks like my avitar - anyones who had chemo, has your hair started growing back yet?

  • Shachar
    Shachar Member Posts: 229
    edited January 2013

    Thanks Elimar and Cider! I guess I will not worry about no advanced mapping. They did a lot of xrays Monday and Tuesday last week so maybe they were getting ready.

    Queenkong, all of the rads are for bc. I had a local recurrence just below my incision and the regular rads got rid of it all. I have had the benefit of watching them die off, so imagine what it does to those micro cells. :) The boosts are additional protection in areas most likely to have a recurrence: tumor site and incision scar.

    I do not know if this is true for everyone or not, but thought I would pass it on for those peeling and raw. My raw peeled areas healed quickly and did not burn again. They are the lightest areas of the treatment field and do not hurt in the slightest. So maybe peeling isn't such a bad thing.

  • kwein0412
    kwein0412 Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2013

    I will be starting my radiation treaments this coming Monday, 1/28/13.

  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited January 2013

    Welcome kwein - the first day was by far the hardest so far (I'm through my first week).   It took A LOT longer than the rest have, so don't panic if it seems to take forever.

    Queenkong (love the name, btw) - I am actually doing my prone.   Kind of awkward as you lie on your belly with your boob hanging through a hole in the table (sort of like for a sterotactic biopsy, but without the compression), and the other one squished up out of the way.   Arms stretched up over your head.   Not the most comfortable position, but supposed to be much safer, so I'm good with it.

  • cvmarilyn
    cvmarilyn Member Posts: 179
    edited January 2013

    fgm - when do you star the armidex?  I sure hope it's not soooo scary. Just when you think you're done with the icky stuff - then there's that - ugh.

    Queen Kong - I love your name too :)    I'm a DD and have just been wearing t-shirts under sweaters - thank God it's winter - LOL and it's been OK.   I did OK in the shower - not super hot water and Olay soap. Drying by blotting no rubbing. Be SURE to get under the boob so that there's noextra moisture. I also started using a cotton sock - like the ones you wear in the summer - under my boob so to not have skin on skin contact.  The RO told me about Neosporin with pain relief and that has helped too.  I put it under the boob, the arm pit area and the nipple. 

    I just finished Wednesday and feel pretty good :)  it's doable.  BTW I did use Motrin and Percocet from my surgery a few times especially last weekend - so don't feel like you have to be a super hero. Look out for yourself - they have lots of stuff available for pain if you need it.

    <3

    cvm

  • daisymom46
    daisymom46 Member Posts: 19
    edited January 2013

    Good luck to you kwein0412. I am starting my radiation treatment this Wednesday, 1/30. I was supposed to begin Monday, 1/28 but wouldn't ya know due to other symptoms I was having I asked onc. dr. for an ultrasound and after that was sent to do a hysterosonogram and wouldn't ya know i Have a .8 cm suspicious little 'endometrial polyp' lurking in my uterus.  So another body part will have to be dealt with.....has anyone else had polyps or other issues pop up during BC treatment?

  • susancats
    susancats Member Posts: 51
    edited January 2013

    Good job! Kwein!! Tomorrow will be your first step toward the end! It's gonna be fine!

  • susancats
    susancats Member Posts: 51
    edited January 2013

    This week I'll reach my 1/2 way mark. I'm done with 15/33 -Three full weeks. The most frustrating thing for me is I've had bronchitis and trying to lay still with your arms over your head and NOT cough has been a challenge! Finally got some cough suppressant pills Tessa pearls from my MD.

    I'm getting red, and the Rads Dr said it's normal.



    My one boob looks pretty pissed off at me. Like a "purple nurple" but reddish. I keep using the Aquaphor. It's greasy & gooey, but is keeping my boob from drying out.



    I counted while the actual radiation beam is going and it varies from 18-24 seconds. Is that normal? I thought it was the same dose each time??



    Hope everyone else is having a good weekend - rest away from rads. Every day I drive up the hill is one day closer to the end of radiation.

    ;) love to you all! <3</p>

  • cowpower
    cowpower Member Posts: 293
    edited January 2013

    Hi All- having some insomnia tonight from stress? Tamoxifen? Who knows! Thought I would catch up a bit and found lots of new friends, welcome to you all and I hope your rads journey is quick and fun- probably shouldnt make any jokes about keeping our seats in the upright position, given the contortions some are suffering during treatment:)



    Shachar,LOVED your comment about being worried about your MO s mental status - they just cant help quantifying everything like stages and statistics, can they? Like we dont know we have potential problems, lol. My RO is such a sweet guy he teared up when I thanked him for being compassionate (after he fried my skin off, lol). I told him he better buck up or he would never make it in this business.



    Elimar, I am so sorry you are dealing with a second primary, I would think enough is enough. You are one strong person!



    Cvmarilyn, so glad you are finished and healing. Sonson, Dont you finish on Monday?



    Monday is my first appointment to find out what to do about my son and his potassium paralysis, I wish he didnt have to go through this as he is frightened and depressed. I think he will handle it ok, but for Christ's Sake, he is only 16 and worrying should be the province of old ladies like me. I did get a smile when I googled the disease that runs in the family. It is quite rare, and the national institute of health published its first emergency room treatment guidelines on January 17. Since his attack was on the 21st, it is good to know they had their homework done just before we needed it:)



    I hope you all have a great day...Weekends are a nice break during treatment, and a nice time to rest while recovering.

  • cowpower
    cowpower Member Posts: 293
    edited January 2013

    5luvbbugs, just saw your hair question. My final chemo was September 27 and my hair looks like your avitar, only now a bit more filled in. I was surprised in the shower when I washed my head and felt this sticky slimy stuff when I rubbed. Holy crap, wet hair feels weird! My husband just got his hair cut and I believe I have a bit more length than he does. Both my sons have more hair than I do by far, and one of them shaved his head in early Oct. for cancer awareness day. I think tamoxifen is holding me back. Is the hair youhave growing in the same as what left? Mine is different color, texture, etc.

  • Villagegirl1234
    Villagegirl1234 Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2013

    I have my appointment for my simulation 2/4. Can anyone share what that is like. I have been reading all of these posts and it has been so helpful. I am a little nervous but I am getting strength from all of you.



    Thanks C

    Dx 11/29/12

    IDC stage 1Grade10/3 nodes Er+/Pr+, Her2-

    Surgery12/26 Lumpectomy (right) Sentinal Node Dissection (right)

    Onkotype Score 18

  • allurbaddayswillend
    allurbaddayswillend Member Posts: 355
    edited January 2013

    I'm trying to post a photo of my hair 9 weeks & 5 days PFC. It's about an inch and a third long now. Also I included my eyebrows because they came back pretty quickly after 5 weeks PFC.

    There will be hair in your future! I always liked seeing pics of the new hair on post-chemo patients so I hope this helps.

  • QueenKong
    QueenKong Member Posts: 154
    edited January 2013

    Allurbadday - My, What big eyes you have my dear!

    Speaking of hair, I've got the smallest bit of fuzz and thinking of changing my name to Queen Kiwi. I liked the bald look better than this. I think I might finally give in & get some wigs I dislike the look so but I can't keep shaving if I am ever going to have hair again.

    One of my most depressing moments was when the eyelashes came out, so pathetic. I had one hanging there alone for a bit the it fell too. Now, the lashes are coming back, slowing I can see with the magnifying mirror.

    I'm thinking of hanging upside down to improve the hair growth.

  • Energy_isme
    Energy_isme Member Posts: 14
    edited January 2013

    Hi all,

    I just finished my chemo (Tax) on January 17, and had my picc line removed on the 21st after they gave me fluids and anti-nausea medication. I go for my mapping on February 4, 2013. I had my consultation already but was so nervous and scared that I do not remember much. The doctor came in the room and immediately said something about the size and grade of my tumor and my case being difficult. The nurse in the room kept trying to be positive and would counter some of his comments, needless to say I felt overwhelmed. My tumor was 6.5 cm but there was no spreading to my lymph nodes or chest wall. I cannot remember if he said they are going to radiate the chest wall or not or anything about angles. He did say they are going to do some lymph nodes in my underarm.



    I have been very emotional since finishing my chemo and I am scared about the damage I keep reading about. I am a soccer player and my last three chemo treatments were very hard and my breathing already seems compromised. I went to the gym this past week and my heart rate was quite high without much work. So doing radiation seems scares the crap out of me.



    I was so happy to find this website and blog. I cried seeing all of your posts and don't feel so alone.



    Liz

  • cowpower
    cowpower Member Posts: 293
    edited January 2013

    Allurbaddays, wow! You are a gifted hair grower! Yours is longer than mine and i have been out of chemo since Sept. Way to go- nice eyebrows, also. My silver lining is that my brows came in lighter than before. I always thought they were too dark and heavy before. While they still take extreme maintenence, I think they have inproved.



    Queenkong, let me know how the hanging upside down thing goes. I am considering letting my head hang out the window when I drive my kids around, hoping freezing my scalp will make my hair grow faster for warmth. What the hell, people already think I'm nuts.



    Energy isme, I too had a large tumor, about 7.5 cm. To keep the risks in perspective, try to remember that the chemo, rads , etc are designed to take care of all that. Also, no nodes is good nodes! Also bear in mind that the effects of chemo are cumulative, so it is normal to be wiped out after chemo. I didnt realize how far "down" I had gone with the chemo until I actually felt more energenic and less short of breath every day for the first half of rads- thought I might be some odd creature that could thrive on radiation:) It will take you a while to recover- tax is a bitch- I couldnt even finish it! Rads should be much easier for you, it just made me sleepy tired, not that bone crushing fatigue that chemo brings. I am truly sorry you had to join this club, but glad you are here with us.

  • Energy_isme
    Energy_isme Member Posts: 14
    edited January 2013

    Thank you so much cowpower!! I reread my post....gosh I cannot even spell!!!



    My head looks like a fuzzy little melon and it is coming back in super white!!!! Considering I used to have dark brown hair with some white speckled throughout. My boyfriend told me not to bat my eyelids at him.....I found that hysterical since I have about 5 eyelashes left. So no batting my eyelashes at him.



    I stood in front of my fan the other night and let the wind blow my hair back!! My boyfriend thinks I am a nut bar!! Then I used my baby brush and comb to part my fuzz!!



    I do try and keep a healthy sense of humour!!



    I am going to try and talk to my rad doctor again and get better informed.

  • allurbaddayswillend
    allurbaddayswillend Member Posts: 355
    edited January 2013

    cowpower, I did not have any taxotere, I think that makes some difference besides just personal body differences too. My hair started growing back a little bit while I was having Taxol but then stalled out the last month without actually falling out.

    On radiation news, my nipple peeled yesterday and I perceive it to be feeling better because of this. Maybe less tightness there?

  • fgm
    fgm Member Posts: 831
    edited January 2013

    CVmarilyn- I would think I'd start the Arimidex when I finish rads.  My MO wanted me to start it when I finished chemo but my RO wanted me to wait until I finished rads. Sometimes it's okay not to know what to expect...as they say, "Everyone is different."

    Kwein, Daisymom, Energy and Villagegirl-welcome to this great site but so sorry you have to be here. (It's the club you never wanted to join....but the people here are so helpful.)  Basically with the simulation, you just lie there and the techs take films and maneuver you around.  They may tattoo you but it doesn't hurt. It takes longer than your actual treatment.  Energy- I am so impressed that you went to the gym so soon after chemo.  Taxotere was very hard on me, too.  But after 3 months I'm pretty much back to normal energy wise...rads didn't make me tired......although I don't play soccer and I'm in my 60s.

    Susancats- you may want to try aloe along with the aquaphor.  It really helped me.

    Allurbadday-Your hair looks great!! My last chemo was Oct. 22 and I have less hair than you.  Mine is coming back dark brown and maybe wavy...can't tell yet.  My eyelashes have returned thicker than before and so have my brows.  I had to shave my legs last week (there is good and bad :))

    QueenKong-Boosts are lot easier on your breast than regular treatments since they just radiate the area where the tumor was instead of the entire breast and, in my case, the underarm.  I used Dove for sensitive skin.  I would pat dry and use a hair dryer on cool to dry under my breast.

    Cowpower-I hope you get good news about your son tomorrow. 

  • QueenKong
    QueenKong Member Posts: 154
    edited January 2013

    Hi Energy isme - interesting name. That's a pretty big tumor, I have one 6+cm when the chemo started. No spreading to lymph nodes is good news for you. After the surgery they saw dead cells in my lymph nodes so mine had sprea but the chemo killed it they say. I can understand your concerns after chemo but you've done it! I think you & I will be starting radiation about the same time so we can support each other in that. I'm scared too but from what everyone is saying it sounds easier than chemo and certainly pneumonia.

    Where the heck is Saskatoon? Is that a made up place?

    cowpower - More cold on the head makes it grow faster? 0_0 I thought inversion would more blood flow might help. I'm thinking about a trapeze bar or maybe that yoga when you hang the ceiling on a piece of fabric? 

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