2013 Running Thread
Welcome to the happiest thread on BCO!
Lets talk about running…
Before, during and after treatment.
Or maybe you’re a walker but interested in running. Maybe you’re a survivor and interested in running or getting your life back.
Whatever it is, lets help each other get through this, and keep running/ walking/cross training or whatever it takes.
Walkers and runner wannabe’s are welcome too!
Who’s running?
Nov 9 - goldlining - Run Disney Wine and Dine Half Marathon
Nov 9 - firstcall - First Call Veterans Day marathon Bothell, Wa
Nov 16 - lovestorun - Richmond, VA Half Marathon
Nov 16 - fredntan - Richmond, Va Half Marathon
Jan 10 - goldlining - Walt Disney World 10k
Jan 11 - goldlining - Walt Disney World Half
Jan 9-12 - groovygirls - Dopey 5K 10K Half and Full Marathon
Feb 23 - Sandlake - Disney Princess Half marathon
Comments
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Thanks firstcall for starting up the 2013 calendar!
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SharonLC, the foam roller was a good investment for me. Probably worth it for your running partner. It is SO painful if you do it right -- I am supposed to roll the side of the leg from hip to knee over it as it is on the ground, so my body weight applies the pressure. Holy mackerel. But the pain and the effectiveness are linked. If it doesn't hurt, it's not doing the thing. The pain is over as soon as you stop, which I repeat to myself the whole time I do it. I have one of those stick things too, but I don't press hard enough when I am using my hands to create the pressure. Partly a strength issue and partly wimping out. The 6" diameter foam roller (mine is 24" long) is the one I use.
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W7D1 completed today. Still slow, but almost 2 miles in 25 minutes...felt good!
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You guys inspired me - I did 30 minutes on the foam roller yesterday, working on the IT bands, but also quads, hammies, and back. Yep, it hurt, especially on the IT bands, but in a good way and I felt wonderful afterwards. I have LE so I can't have my arms straight with the full body weight load on just my hands - I have to rest on my forearms to spread the body weight load, but I think I'm still getting a pretty good effect from it.
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Goldlining and Natsfan ... thanks for the info, I am going to buy one for me, too ... as a preventative to injury, sounds like it gives the same results as a good deep tissue leg massage, except without being pampered
MMTOMH ... your pace is real good ... keep going!!
First radiation appointment was a lot longer than expected ... an hour and a half to be exact ... they redid the markings because RO wasn't happy with the setup ... was so hard to hold still for that long. I ran 4.5 mile before going to relax me. During it all my arms felt fatiqued being up above my head for so long ... some of my muscles started twitching. They promise that tommorrow will be a lot better/shorter.
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SharonLC--The long sessions are so hard, but it gets easier. Looking at your diagnosis, it seems as though your RADS shouldn't be too extensive. Hopefully you'll be in and out in about 10-15 minutes...my team was super-efficient! They also took xrays once a week to make sure everything was still where they wanted it. That added 5-10 minuted to that day's session.
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Thanks for doing this Firstcall! Back to running and hoping to avoid injury. Still nursing a small stress fracture, so hopefully it won't interfer with my training plans this Spring.
Firstcall- would you put me down for the Kiawah Island Marathon on December 14th!
Thanks,
Eula
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Question...... I have shin splints from my one hour run/walk. I felt them coming on so only walked 1/2 an hour yesterday. Still there today. Should I run/walk/take a break today? Opinions please. (c:
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Take a break. Wait until you feel better, then start up again. Check your stride length.
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Adey - think cross training. If its bad you may need to just rest, but most of the time you can do something lower impact, cycle or swim.
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Adey ... I never had shin splints ... so no advice, but happy to see you back on the thread
I used the foam roller yesterday for the first time on IT bands ... how often should I use it, daily? weekly? Left side hurt more than right when using it and today is a little tender when pressed on ... didn't effect running today though and I did feel a bit more flexible. Thanks!
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I've been doing some walking and want to get running. I read a bit of this thread and the roller things confused me...WHat?!?!? is that for?!?!?!
I've seen people running in the park with these tight black pants, what the heck are they and where do they get them? They have to be some kind of warm materical because it's so freaking cold I can barely stand to go outside. I lost a lot of weight during chemo treatments and while I had pneumonia. I'm finally pretty much over the pneumonia. (It was pretty serious, I was hospitalized and it was likely an allergic reaction to the Abraxane) Anyway.....I need some pointers for running in the cold. I have a hard time warming up. I'm soooo cold. And what to wear. I was walking 4 miles before the pneumonia during the AC and walked 5 miles three days last week before the extreme cold hit. Thanks for the help and advice in advance.
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Welcome QueenKong.
Foam roller is about 6" diameter, 24" long, styrofoam. Mine is blue. There are instructions in the wrapper. You basically put it under you on the floor (or yoga mat), and lie on it with the body part you want massaged out and use arms or legs to roll forward and back along it. Your body weight will press the body part into the roller which is quite hard, not soft like a pillow, and this will help stretch the bands. It is popular for hips / IT band but I also use on shoulders. I used to use it as often as daily. Sort of part of the everyday routine. Have fallen off a bit but still enjoy it.
I also swear by the compression tights. I have CW-X. They really make me feel something is pushing me forward. Definitely wear those in an endurance event (with my tutu or sparkle skirt over top). For training, I will wear a reasonably snug tights or capris like Lululemon, also with a training skirt over top (nobody needs to be looking at my butt). I got the compression tights at the running shop, but a great place to check out all the gear is watch for a big marathon or half marathon to come to your region and go to the free expo. They are open to anyone, not just the participants. You can see all the latest merchandise there that you will never find in the average community running shop, sometimes with discounts, much better selection of clothing, sports bras, compression and therapy gear even running nutrition and stuff like shirts with insider runner humour on them, plus often there are speakers etc.
With the compression tights during an event I use regular running socks, but I put on compression socks during recovery after a half marathon. I believe all this gear and tricks (like the icewater bath) is used by the elite runners for a reason, and it's worth a try for me. I have had really easy-peasy recovery despite my obscene lack of training.
In this cold, I am not running outside. I have asthma that is aggravated by cold OR exercise and I am not subjecting it to cold AND exercise. However in temps as low as -5C, I might go outside. For the base layer, I like the merino wool rather than the synthetic wicking for really cold. Over top, I would wear windbreak pants and a wicking cold-weather midlayer pullover and windbreaker, a hat that opens on top for ventilation, and gloves/scarf etc.
Runners World website has a good "what to wear" calculator where you can input the weather and how you like to feel when you run and it will make suggestions. I started keeping track of what I wore when I felt too hot, too cold, and just right, and that helped. Just Google "runners world what to wear" and you will find the tool.
I just had to post this: I saw the physio yesterday for the usual, and it was the first post-Disney Half Marathon session so I was focusing on the neck knot and tight ab muscle. It was actually a pretty easy run but tight ab muscles pull me forward then the upper back has to support my head more than it would if I was in alignment. I have had a tight, like rock-hard ab muscle as part of a post-DIEP muscular traffic jam in my shortened front side and she had noted it before I went but we did not work on it then. It is literally a ball of muscle on just one side. Yesterday, she put ONE acupuncture needle there for like TWO minutes, and the muscle just went "sproing" and relaxed to be similar to the other side. She said it was not the rectus abdominis but rather the top end of the psoas. Psoas!!! Damn you. Much psoas stretching in my future!
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Hi QueenKong,
You might want to check out the Galloway method (http://www.jeffgalloway.com/training/index.html) that moves you from being a walker to a runner. The main thing you want to do is to not get injured by doing too much too quickly.
Goldlining gave good advice about the tights. I have a couple of pair - Mizuno are my favorites. They're great on a chilly day!
Welcome to running!
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I have good news! I finished my very first 5k today. Time was 44:19 and I was stoked as I've only made it through W7D1...almost two weeks shy of the full plan, but I pushed hard and made it! There was some speed walking involved, but I never dropped the pace below 4 mph. This is me right after I finished...can't figure out how to get the picture right side up!!
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Oh man, now the picture didn't even show!
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Congrats MMTOMH! What a great accomplishment!
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Congrats MMTOMH!
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First 'long run' since my surgery and chemo! Feeling exhilarated after a 5 mile run in 10 degree weather!
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You go MM!!! The sky's the limit!
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301724: SWEEEEET! What an awesome feeling!
MMTOMH: Nice going!!
Planning my first run with my youngest (age 26) son tomorrow morning. He just started adding distance (he ran in high school, hasn't run in awhile) and we both registered for a May half-marathon. We're planning 5 miles tomorrow. He'll probably kick my butt - or NOT!
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WTG 301724! I bet it felt great:)
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Great updates! Way to go everyone! Still way too cold and slushy out, so I did a half hour run with my fast new shoes and stayed on the treadmill walking an additional 45 minutes waiting for results of a ballot at the political leadership convention. Not as interesting as football but better than nothing :-)
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We need to get "like" buttons under our posts! LOL. Thanks for all the congrats!
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Had my first run with my son this morning. He doesn't like early mornings, so I compromised and went at 7:30. That won't happen often. We did 5 1/2 miles together so I'm sure he'll build up his mileage in no time for our half-marathon. He did 8 earlier this week. He thinks my stride is too short, I think his is too bouncy. I reminded him that my legs are a lot shorter than his, and since I've been running going on 35 years pretty much injury-free, I'm not gonna start tampering with my gait at this point!
Cold but not windy - about 12 degrees so it wasn't too bad.
Great running, everyone . . .
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Just saw this thread and thought I might join in. Not a big runner, but have been doing 4 miles at a time 3-4 times a week for about a year now. Used to run more than that, but had to take over a year off due to severe plantar fascitis and this seems to be my comfort zone to avoid problems.
I ran up until my surgery in December, and started back a week later (strapped the girls in TIGHT with two sports bras, LOL). Have been running ever since, including this morning, but have just started my 2nd week of rads so I anticipate I may not be able to keep up my usual pace/schedule the whole time. I figure that I'll do what I can, though .... I need this mentally more than anything else.
I'm so impressed with all of you who run marathons and half-marathons! Maybe some day, but for now I'm just aiming for a few 5K's here and there (have one planned in April). Speaking of 5K's, want to hear something ironic? I ran the Race for the Cure this year for the first time, having no idea that both my mom and I would be diagnosed in the next 6 weeks.
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Great to hear from you, Annette! This is a great group for running ideas and support.
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Welcome Annette47, we have a lot in common ... my DX, surgery and rads (just started 1/23/13 for 33 treatments) have all fallen within the same time as yours ... coincidentally, too ... I signed up to run a HM, Run with Donna in Jacksonville, FL which is a fundraiser for BC research and financial support about 4 weeks before my DX .. it's on February 17th and I'm still going strong with my training ... no side effects yet from Rads ... last long run is this Friday before the race ... ran 4.5 this morning before treatment, warm in Florida today, but cooling off thankfully on Friday for a nice long run.
MMTOMH ... Congrats on accomplishing the 5K!!! Thanks for the encouragement ... the appointment times have gone down to 20-30 minutes and RO gave me the cream today
301724 ... That's terrific, what a great feeling to be back to 5 miles already!!
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Thanks for the welcome guys!
And Sharon, we do seem to have a lot in common, except that you can run further, LOL! Good luck with training ... so far so good on my energy levels as well, but friends who have been through it tell me that weeks 5-6 tend to knock you down pretty good - I'll worry about that when it happens. Nice having the appointment times get quicker, isn't it? So far so good on the skin, but my RO tells me he expects me to start getting pink towards the end of next week.
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Annette47, if you are running the weekly mileage you are, there is no doubt you can do a half marathon if you ever found a medal, course, or destination that motivated you. The only question is your time. Not much to it if speed is not a priority: once you start, you just don't stop until they give you the hardware. If you can walk at a brisk pace for 3 hours, you're there. If you want to do a better time, it's easy to train 3X a week, just building up the weekend run to longer distances from week to week. The long distances are not of interest to everyone, but I'm one who hates the first 3 miles, so if I only ran the half hour training sessions, I would just stop running.
So glad the rads sound under control. I think this thread is the happiest thread on BCO - I think because what we get from running is something we still control when the rest of it isn't so in control. Hope to see you back here with run reports!
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