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  • heavenschild
    heavenschild Member Posts: 212
    edited January 2013

    ebelizabeth - My PS said that they would do any touch up work that I wanted on my second surgery.  I am making a list! 

  • Morningsun1
    Morningsun1 Member Posts: 649
    edited January 2013

    heavenschild, share the list when you are done, please. Also who is your ps? Thanks! Tammy

  • Morningsun1
    Morningsun1 Member Posts: 649
    edited January 2013

    Good luck to you tomorrow, heavenschild! I hope everything goes smoothly for you and see your post-op posting soon. Tammy

  • wintersocks
    wintersocks Member Posts: 922
    edited January 2013

    Thinking of you heavenschild and do hope that all goes really well. Look forward to post op postings.

    xx 

  • heavenschild
    heavenschild Member Posts: 212
    edited January 2013

    Thank you guys!  Honestly, I am so tired I just want to sit on the floor and cry.  I am looking forward to a week long nap. 

    Gentle cyber hugs to all!

  • lilyun
    lilyun Member Posts: 54
    edited January 2013

    Heavenschild-just want to add my wish of good luck and prayers for tomorrow.

  • faith729
    faith729 Member Posts: 244
    edited January 2013

    Good luck tomorrow Heavenschild! looking forward to updates. Wishing you a speedy recovery :)



    Honestly this board has been so great for me it really makes a difference being able to read all the posts and not feel so lonely waiting for surgery. Thank you everyone!

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited January 2013

    Faith, me too.  It's like I get to live vicariously through everyone's recon adventures.  I know it's a lengthy surgery, days in the hospital, lots of moving parts...but I CAN'T WAIT.

  • Robin67
    Robin67 Member Posts: 15
    edited January 2013

    Hi everyone .... I'm new to the reconstruction section of this wonderful site. I've been at the newly diagnosed section but after biopsies finding DCIS and LCIS in both breasts , 5 lumpectomies and path report with excessive LCIS found, I've decided to have BMX. I am very interested in having the DIEP procedure but I'm having a difficult time knowing who and where to go to. I live in CT closer to Hartford area. Does anyone know a good PS in CT or neighboring states? Is there a big advantage to New Orleans? I hear it mentioned so much.... Sorry still new to all this. I'm anxious to start planning . Does it take a long time to get the procedure scheduled? Thank u for any answers you all can offer;)

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited January 2013

    Hi Robin,

    I live in NJ and after traveling to NYC and also seeing a local PS, I decided to go to NOLA. I'd be happy to give you all my reasons, but I really feel that they are the best... and after reading so much about people who started somewhere else with less experienced surgeons and wishing they'd just started in NOLA, I wanted to start it off right. This was something I felt, but I realize that other people love their surgeons as well...Or some people don't and won't travel, but I found it to be not a problem. I suggest if you are interested, to read the NOLA in SEPTEMBER thread.

    And the process can be as quick as you make it. You could probably have surgery within the month if that's what you want.

  • 4my4babies
    4my4babies Member Posts: 36
    edited January 2013

    Best of luck heavenschild! Lots of prayers for a fast recovery!



    I am two days home from my PBMX w/ DIEP in Nola. I'm achy, sore, swollen, and tire easily but I am doing great! It truly has not been as bad as I feared it might be. My husband thinks I'm doing great too. I had a shower today and was able to do it all myself. I had a shower chair in with me but was steady enough not to need it. My DH still has to help me get it altogether to dress but we made it. The swabbing of the drain tube holes and holding cotton pads in place while I get my panties up and the bra on around my hugely swollen breasts is definitely a 4 handed job. I am blessed to have his help and as hard as it's been for him (he has a queasy stomach), he's been a trooper. I HATE having to stand naked in front of him looking like this. Heck, I rarely did that BEFORE this and I sure don't look better than that right now! But we've had to just suck it up and get in with it.



    We will drive back down to Nola for my post op appointment with Dr. D. We're only 3 hours away but that will make for a long day in the car. I've had pads over my breasts since the surgery so I am looking forward to seeing how my nipples look. I'm pretty sure I will have my two breast drains removed because they aren't putting out much.



    All in all, I don't think all of this has gone any better than it has. I recommend the doctors at Nola and their facilities 100 times over. They are top notch. And for anyone trying to decide where to go for their DIEP, this is the place. I think everyone should want to go to a doctor who does this two or three times a week and has "seen it all" over someone who does this two or three times a month. I can't even remember the tweaks I make to a recipe I make two to three times a month!



    Nancy

  • jojo68
    jojo68 Member Posts: 881
    edited January 2013

    Hi beautiful ladies! Well, I am week post surgery, home for two days. All I have to say first is thank the Lord for my rented hospital
    bed and my Percocet!!!! haha

    I had my double mastectomy and diep at UPenn in Philly with the best surgeons in the area. They asked me if I would mind if they could also do immediate nipple reconstruction and I, of course agreed! First off, the pain is worse than I had anticipated, but the drains are draining well and may have them out next week already. No problems with raising both arms, eventhough, they took 10 lymph nodes. I love the way tummy looks already but really disappointed in the breasts. They look like muffin tops that have been deflated. Now, I know I am just a week out but really hoping they will look better than this...anyone else prematurely disappointed? I know I should be feeling grateful, and I do...it was just my "silver lining" Also they only sent me home with 4 days of Percocet. I can either drive two hours for the paper script or they can fax a Vicoden script? I am worried it
    may not be strong enough?

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited January 2013

    Joellelee, I haven't had my surgery yet, but from what everyone's saying, you have to give it some time.  All the weird swelling and shifting around of fluids could be giving you the deflated muffin top look.  If it still looks that way on down the line...well, there's stage II!

    For your pain meds, you don't have to drive to pick up a written prescription.  Your doctor's office can easily fax or call in a prescription to your local pharmacy.  Shame on them for sending you all the way home with inadequate pain meds.  I'm a nurse, and this stuff really bugs me.  I know our physicians are all hammered with the message to be careful about over-prescribing prescription pain meds due to its nationwide abuse, but for heaven's sake let's use some sense.  A post-op patient with four feet of fresh incisions is NOT the same as a chronic drug-seeking patient, so let's stop humiliating surgical patients when they ask for adequate pain relief.

    Sorry, that was a soapbox.  Blessings for your recovery!

  • jojo68
    jojo68 Member Posts: 881
    edited January 2013

    Thanx so much for your reply, Elizabeth! When my hubby called UPenn and when we spoke to the pharmacy they both stated that percocet could neither be faxed or phoned in...has to be physically picked up at surgeon"s office! Vicotin they can phone in...so upsetting and stressful as picking up percocet paper script would be 4 hour round trip for us!

  • MartyJ
    MartyJ Member Posts: 1,859
    edited January 2013

    Joellelee -  both percocet and vicodin contain the same ingredients (acetaminophen and oxycodone), but percocet is stronger. Maybe ask for the vicodin or ask you local doctor (internist or bs), explaining the problem, and ask the PS to call the local to confirm.  

  • Hockeymom1
    Hockeymom1 Member Posts: 30
    edited January 2013

    Joelelle,

    I too am one week out of surgery.  I don't have a hospital bed but the recliner has become my best friend!  I am much more sore in my abdomen that I expected but it does seem to be getting better each day.  I have a doctor appointment tomorrow morning and I hope to get at least a couple of these drains out (I have 4).

    My breasts are also very flat and round - like a flattened hamburger bun:(  the cleavage lookes nice and the tops and sides are filled in nicely  - when I had my implants I had hollow tops and sides.  I hope there will be a way to get some projection?

    Good luck to you.  I know I am ready to get off the Percocet and downgrade to something else.  It is affecting my appetite and just making me feel blah.

  • jojo68
    jojo68 Member Posts: 881
    edited January 2013

    Hockeymom, you sound more upbeat than me...just feeling sorry for myself. Hoping the vicodin will help me as did the percocet, although, the percocet does give me horrific nightmares! Flat hamburger buns is the perfect description for mine as well. I hate the numbness everywhere as well. I have 6 drains and hope to lose a couple next week!

  • faith729
    faith729 Member Posts: 244
    edited January 2013

    Robin67

    I like Boston's

    BWH they have a fantastic reputation & so far I love my PS he is great very thorough.

  • nihahi
    nihahi Member Posts: 3,841
    edited January 2013

    Just got my surgery date. Was first told no openings until sometime in 2014, got home, someone just cancelled, so I now have my diep date for April 12.

  • lilyun
    lilyun Member Posts: 54
    edited January 2013

    nihahi that is great news I think that the waiting is almost more difficult than the procedure itself.

  • wintersocks
    wintersocks Member Posts: 922
    edited January 2013

    Glad to hear those who have had thier ops are (mostly?!) doing fine.

    My diep is planned for August/Sept. Anyone else then? It seems too long away and I just want it done.

  • faith729
    faith729 Member Posts: 244
    edited January 2013

    I am scheduled but I'm having second thoughts. I know that it's the right decision based on my history but I have two kids and even though it's not scheduled till April 1st it seems like that date is quickly approaching. Basically in a nutshell im really nervous. Im going to list some concerns and hope that one of you awesome ladies can offer a little advice or peace of mind.

    1. Length of surgery and time under anesthesia.

    2. End result Im a D cup now and I know that they are probably only going to get a C out of what they take..not sure if I will be disappointed

    3. I've heard that some womens reconstructed breasts wind up looking deflated has anyone else heard of this or talked to their ps about this ?

    4. Im nervous about seeing myself without bandages after surgery and before stage ll



    Is anyone else feeling this way or am I loosing it ? I always hear stories of strength and courage regarding survivors but I'm not sure I feel strong or courageous right now. I certainly don't want to be a Debbie downer for this group but I don't know anyone else who has gone through this so I figured I'd give it a shot and ask.

  • nihahi
    nihahi Member Posts: 3,841
    edited January 2013

    Faith.....I don't know your history, but will happily share some info I was given today by my doc, that certainly helped to ease the fear of anesthesia. Even though it is a long surgery, it doesn't mean you will have a huge dose of anesthesia. You will certainly be asleep, unaware and comfortable, but they don't spend all that surgical time routing around in your internal organs. Much of the time is actually spent doing the microsurgery connections, not cutting and pulling, so your anesthesia needs aren't horrific. It is not like the operations they pretend to do on tv shows. Breast size isn't important to me,  but symmetry is, so I can't relate to your feelings, but I'm not dismissing them as important to you. I guess how you look now, will be what you are going to compare yourself to post surgery. I had a single mastectomy 20 years ago with delayed reconstruction and have had problems with implants ever since. Nothing could be more emotional than that first post mastectomy without reconstruction look, and I cannot wait to have the alien blob gone, and my own body back. Not looking for perfect, just wanting to be the real me.

    Your fears and feelings are certainly valid ones for you, and I'm sure others may have different answers. Hope you find peace in what ever you chose.

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited January 2013

    Hi Faith...

    1. Length of surgery and time under anesthesia. My surgery (1st one) was a BMX and GAP flap, so it involved flipping me, was 10 hours long, and I had no issues with anesthesia. For me it was just a nap. I like nihahi's explanation.
    2. End result Im a D cup now and I know that they are probably only going to get a C out of what they take..not sure if I will be disappointed I was a C/D cup prior and am now a little smaller. My request was to be the same as I was. I am pretty darn close. My doctor went into surgery thinking I would have a stacked DIEP (using abs and butt), but in the end he got what he needed from my butt. So you do have options out there if you don't end up with what you want. There is always stage II.
    3. I've heard that some womens reconstructed breasts wind up looking deflated has anyone else heard of this or talked to their ps about this ? Not deflated
    4. Im nervous about seeing myself without bandages after surgery and before stage ll By the time I got to stage II (3-4 months post stage I, I could barely see the scars. Don't worry.

  • 4my4babies
    4my4babies Member Posts: 36
    edited January 2013

    Faith - It is late and I am tired from just driving home from my Stage 1 post-op appointment in Nola but I wanted to respond to your concerns. Not to your questions specifically, but your general concerns.



    I am a married, 51 year old mother to 4 young children (ages 10,10,4 and 4). I had a prophylactic (preventive) double mastectomy with immediate DIEP reconstruction 6 days ago. No cancer diagnosis, no BRCA mutations, but high risk due to family history. My surgery lasted 8 hours. This was two hours longer than originally projected but my breasts were larger (and longer!) than average and the mastectomy portion took a little longer than expected. The following is the note I just posted on Facebook to my friends and family. Reading it may not address all of your concerns but I believe it will address many of them...and at least let you look at some of them from a different perspective. God bless.



    Family and Friends -



    I had a great post op report and we are almost home from New Orleans! I had two of my four drain tubes removed today and I should be able to remove the two from my abdomen within a few more days. (They are no big deal but they are certainly a nuisance.) My "new" breasts look good! (especially considering what they just went through!) I have 4 more weeks of being restricted from lifting anything greater than 10 pounds, bending or reaching but other than those things I can do whatever I feel I am up to doing within reason. My doctor said I should expect to be sore for a few more weeks but I should be able to drive sometime next week if I feel up to it and am off pain meds (which I'm pretty sure I will be). The doctor also said I should still expect to tire easily the next few weeks and I am to take lots of naps to encourage the internal healing processes. I said, "Well, if I have to, I have to." No doubt about it, I've never met a nap I didn't like.



    As an added bonus, we learned the results of my path report today. These were on the breast tissue the doctors routinely check for suspicious cells just to be on the safe side. We didn't expect them to find anything in mine but were thrilled to have official "all clear" results nonetheless.



    So for now, I'm to continue to take it easy and heal as I wrap up this first (and most involved) stage of the reconstruction process. I will return to the Center for Breast Restoration in New Orleans in approx 3 months for Stage 2 of the process.  That is, the revision/sculpting of my "new girls." This second surgery will be much less invasive procedure than the first. It will also be a much shorter procedure (1 or 2 hours instead if 6-8) and will only require an overnight stay and a couple of weeks recovery time.  Then I'll done!  



    It's amazing really. Less than a week ago, I went from a 40% chance of developing breast cancer in my lifetime down to a less than 1% chance in one fell swoop. (Okay, technically 2 fell, but they were both quickly put back together again and, after Stage 2, they will be better (and perkier!) than ever.) 



    My breasts and my belly are still quite tender but, honestly, my recovery has been far easier than the one for which I had prepared myself. And that, of course, was nowhere near the same realm as a battle against breast cancer. As Bob and I have said many times, that's what made all of this a no brainer in the first place. I'm certain it may not be right for everyone, but I wish all women in my former position had the knowledge and resources to consider making the same choice I made. I've known for a long time now that no matter what bad things happen in my life, God will be here for me and ultimately it will all be okay. That's how I get through each day. But adding to that the peace of mind in knowing the odds are that my family, friends and I will never suffer the wide-ranging consequences of me developing breast cancer, is life changing. Truly life changing.



    Thank you again for all of your prayers. They have clearly been answered and we are beyond blessed. Thank you God!

  • faith729
    faith729 Member Posts: 244
    edited January 2013

    Thank you so much for the late night responses. Im getting more comfortable with the surgery approaching thanks to you ladies and this great resource.

    My situation is that although I have zero family history of breast cancer I have had two lumpectomies since age 26 one with a focal point of dcis which required no further treatments just removal. I am 32 years old now and aside from some grueling tests that I've had for new findings I go every six months for a breast MRI with dye injection. For about four years now I have just had the MRI's followed by your standard ultrasound biopsies and have escaped the need for those other less fun tests they did before =)

    Each time that I go for the MRI we wait for a phone call and without fail each time there has been new findings requiring a biopsy. This is something that I just got used to . At my most recent biopsy my radiologist who I adore showed me what my films look like per my request. She explained that any abnormal spots were lit up. I was shocked or maybe not to shocked that my breasts looked like a beautiful night sky loads of glowing stars in there ! :P

    Then I was called back again for one of those grueling tests I mentioned before and made an appointment simultaneously made an appointment to speak with my surgeon about mastectomy. I was tired of the scare every six months . When she ever told me that my risk would drop by 90% my husband and I thought ok this is a no brainer similar to you 4my4babies. So here we are awaiting surgery.

  • Robin67
    Robin67 Member Posts: 15
    edited January 2013

    hi ladies, Im currently going through the process of finding a plastic surgeon for DIEP. I live in CT and have heard of Dr. Tobias in Boston (Beth Israel), and Dr. Caterson from BWH. Has anyone heard about these docs and the outcomes. I'm finding this search very anxiety producing. I think I will feel relieved when I finally pick a doc and feel confident that I found a competent surgeon. I'd appreciate any help!!!!!!

  • Robin67
    Robin67 Member Posts: 15
    edited January 2013

    Faith, who are you using at BWH?

  • faith729
    faith729 Member Posts: 244
    edited January 2013

    Robin67

    I have Dr Matthew J Carty and after my initial visit with him I left feeling very confident in his ability to take great care of me. My first visit was 2 hours long and he was extremely thorough. He was approachable and took the time to answer each one of my questions. I had plenty of questions written down and had my husband with me to help me with remembering all the info that I learned.

    Dr. Carty suggested that some women also bring a tape recorder. His office staff is also great it is a very organized operation over there. He has an office at Faulkner Hospital which is affiliated with BWH and they all communicate with each other making my life much easier. Faulkner is also where I had both of my

    Other surgeries and where I have gone (saggoff breast center) for over 6 years.



    Honestly I feel very safe with my choice and can't say enough about Dr.Carty . Whoever you choose at BWH Im sure you will be in good hands it is a great hospital. If you want his info I would be glad to give that to you.

  • faith729
    faith729 Member Posts: 244
    edited January 2013

    Robin67

    Also something that was comforting to me personally was when my ps said at the bebeginning of my first appointment that he will always be sure to clarify whether or not something was opinion based or medical knowledge/facts etc. He doesn't interject his opinion much if at all but it is nice to have an opinion when I ask for it and not feel like im being persuaded or directed back to the facts only. I was super nervous going into the appointment but like I said I left calmer and more confident. The best advice I could give is make sure you get that type of feeling from whoever you decide to go with. Everyone's situation and personality is so different so what worked for me may be different for you.

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